John Boorman’s Lord of the Rings Script Pt. 3: Skipping Isengard and Fangorn

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@amorphati
@amorphati 2 жыл бұрын
Gandalf saying that he would send Merry and Pippin against Theoden's guards any day just got me rolling on the floor
@peterskrobola8753
@peterskrobola8753 2 жыл бұрын
The spirit of Hobbits did resurrect him.
@virginiahansen320
@virginiahansen320 2 жыл бұрын
"I don't think I understand that decision on Boorman's part" The motto of this adaptation.
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin Жыл бұрын
This is your premise. This is your premise on drugs. Any questions?
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 2 жыл бұрын
If Christopher Tolkien disliked the Peter Jackson movies imagine how much he’d have been seething at this script had it been produced.
@phoule76
@phoule76 2 жыл бұрын
"I am the Lord of the Rings" was the greatest line.
@SNWWRNNG
@SNWWRNNG 2 жыл бұрын
At least it's kind of referencing the moment when Pippin calls Frodo the Lord of the Rings and Gandalf tells him not to say that, I guess?
@joannemoore3976
@joannemoore3976 2 жыл бұрын
This episodes laugh out loud moment arrived at 'the men are all wearing codpieces' 🤣
@lc7664
@lc7664 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! These videos about this bizarre adaptation are some of my favorite. The choices are just so baffling, and it's fun to join everyone in with you and everyone in the comments being shocked and taken aback by them 😄
@lordinquisitordunn336
@lordinquisitordunn336 2 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome! I was the guy who brought this to his attention after doing a 15 hour live radio drama/analysis stream and now I need to make everyone suffer through this script
@reidmason2551
@reidmason2551 2 жыл бұрын
I've known about this script for about 19 years now. I only read the full version recently; prior to that only excerpts had been available.
@thebrotherskrynn
@thebrotherskrynn 2 жыл бұрын
This was an acid trip, ugh seems like Boorman was on some of the strongest stuff imaginable. Honestly Part 2 was indeed the worst, please do update this series soon as this script is such a nightmare.
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 2 жыл бұрын
Odd that a guy who seems to be a hippie would choose the save-the-trees subplot to remove.
@Mako2401
@Mako2401 2 жыл бұрын
I refuse to watch or read anything LOTR related unless it has at least one reference to how Elves are taking away jobs from honest humans. #HumanWorkersOnly
@verylostdoommarauder
@verylostdoommarauder 2 жыл бұрын
That line is not as funny as the Rocks Look Down scene.
@hilliardlyeverafter284
@hilliardlyeverafter284 2 жыл бұрын
This script and the actually realized Rings of Power show us how wrong a Tolkien adaptation can go. I think an anthology series based on Tolkien's other works would be really cool though. Make it "Tales From the Perilous Realm". They probably would never do it since those stories aren't set in Middle-Earth.
@anarionelendili8961
@anarionelendili8961 2 жыл бұрын
To put the most charitable point on it, Tolkien himself said that he'd rather skip the Battle of Helm's Deep than some of the character arcs (paraphrasing here from memory). That being said, I am sure that his reaction to the Boorman script would be measured in rpms typically reserved for high-performance (non-solid state) hard drives. :P Having seen Excalibur & Zardos, I am not at all surprised for the scantily-clad, diaphanous gown dance and codpieces scene. Seems to be a Boorman trademark.
@Rick586
@Rick586 2 жыл бұрын
I read this comment about halfway through the video and became *very* concerned.
@RomanHistoryFan476AD
@RomanHistoryFan476AD 2 жыл бұрын
Lord of the Pipe Weed would be a better name for this script.
@LearnRunes
@LearnRunes 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for being on alternative platforms.
@RydarkVoyager
@RydarkVoyager 2 жыл бұрын
In my best Darth Vader voice: "I find your lack of faith disturbing." This script could've been comedic gold, except we also now have The Rings Of Power. Seriously, I now understand both J.R.R. and Christopher Tolkien's irritations over "adaptations."
@celtofcanaanesurix2245
@celtofcanaanesurix2245 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad this was never made, Peter Jackson's movies would never have been made from how confused people would be at this one
@margaretlowans8429
@margaretlowans8429 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how you made yourself finish this it's so surreal. I think the writers listened to the story while out of their minds
@jayt9608
@jayt9608 2 жыл бұрын
I anticipate another one of these videos. They were obviously eating, smoking, or drinking something potent. This is why parents should not feed their children lead paint.
@lordinquisitordunn336
@lordinquisitordunn336 2 жыл бұрын
The drugs that induced this script are clearly so potent that nobody besides the creator of zardoz would ever consider taking them
@YamiSpyroX
@YamiSpyroX 2 жыл бұрын
25:00 So the Boorman integration of the Rohrim was George RR Martin's inspiration for the Dol-Thraki. Gotch' ya! (What the hell is this script?) I think JRR Tolkien would've had a heart attack if he heard Frodo yell "I AM THE LORD OF THE RINGS!!"
@erickpoorbaugh6728
@erickpoorbaugh6728 2 жыл бұрын
The only time it would be acceptable to have Frodo yell that is after he’s been corrupted at Mount Doom. I wouldn’t add it even there, but I also wouldn’t be bothered if someone did. Having him say it at any other time is just ridiculous.
@jimjolly4560
@jimjolly4560 2 жыл бұрын
Periodically... 10 minutes of really weird $$$$ "and then it gets weird." :)
@darshansenthil
@darshansenthil 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this series! Out of general curiosity have you ever come across any argument in court that’s been this ludicrous? I’d imagine it’s very hard to keep a straight face if so 😅😂
@TolkienLorePodcast
@TolkienLorePodcast 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve definitely had people make some pretty reaching arguments lol
@lordinquisitordunn336
@lordinquisitordunn336 Жыл бұрын
I love that the most commonly used word in this review is weird
@glueyossi
@glueyossi 2 жыл бұрын
Yay another video!
@jonathanowen9917
@jonathanowen9917 2 жыл бұрын
This script is terrible. Every time there is supposed to be a meaningful moment we are given crass sexuality, inane comedy, or the moment of danger, heroism, wisdom, or character growth is thwarted by the characters deciding to do something completely different from what they had been doing only moments before. Thankfully this never got made, although Amazon’s The Rings of Power seems to have drawn inspirations from this script 🤦🏽‍♂️
@MyLatin1
@MyLatin1 Жыл бұрын
men in codpieces and provocatively dressed women partying in a castle are you sure this guy hasn't mixed up lord of the rings with Conan the barbarian?
@tachiebillano6244
@tachiebillano6244 Ай бұрын
Ahahaha just found your vids on this script. It sounds like something a 1970s teenaged boy would write if he was tasked to summarize Tolkien's work but the only experience with fantasy lit his brain could handle was reading the Playboy mags he stole from his dad. LMAO no Saruman but yes to the 13-year old Arwen, a scantily-clad Galadriel in a desert oasis having a secret NSFW session with Frodo, and Rohan as a tribe of dancing women and Rohirrim in cod pieces, wahahaha okaaay...
@HeleneFlame11
@HeleneFlame11 2 жыл бұрын
Good laugh 😂
@nobleathenian3945
@nobleathenian3945 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving this! Would have loved to have seen this cheesy awfulness as a kid.
@ComradeCommissarYuri
@ComradeCommissarYuri 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the script that Tolkien wrote a scathing letter about?
@TolkienLorePodcast
@TolkienLorePodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Nope lol. I’ll be covering that in the future though
@reidmason2551
@reidmason2551 2 жыл бұрын
@@TolkienLorePodcast Tolkien did correspond with Boorman prior to work commencing on the script. But Boorman neglected to tell Tolkien just how much he was going to change the material, and I'm not sure if Tolkien ever read the finished product.
@TolkienLorePodcast
@TolkienLorePodcast 2 жыл бұрын
If he did it probably gave him an aneurysm lol
@darthgroot9130
@darthgroot9130 2 жыл бұрын
I would’ve loved to read the letter he would’ve sent to this maniac
@KororaPenguin
@KororaPenguin Жыл бұрын
@@TolkienLorePodcast It might actually have finished him off?
@YrnehLrak
@YrnehLrak 2 жыл бұрын
Is this John Boorman, Charley Boorman's father?
@TolkienLorePodcast
@TolkienLorePodcast 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t know.
@reidmason2551
@reidmason2551 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. Charley appeared in quite a few of his dad's films, notably *Excalibur* as young Mordred.
@YrnehLrak
@YrnehLrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@reidmason2551 awesome! I actually have excalibur on the shelf here, rdy to watch.. I'll look for him 👍
@reidmason2551
@reidmason2551 2 жыл бұрын
@@YrnehLrak He also shows up in *The Emerald Forest,* which came some time after *Excalibur.* His sisters Katrine and Teschle also have roles in *Excalibur* as well, as Igrayne and the Lady of the Lake respectively.
@YrnehLrak
@YrnehLrak 2 жыл бұрын
@@reidmason2551 I see! Excalibur was a family affair then? 🤣
@SaintFort
@SaintFort 2 жыл бұрын
You're just another follower who's jumped on the bandwagon of negative bias against _Rings of Power._ Your criticisms against the show are exaggerated or baseless. The show isn't great, but it's decent so far; however, haters like you won't admit even that much. I swear by the calluses on my hands, the likes of you - biased and hateful - will regret your criticisms when the full story of Rings of Power has unfolded and all of its narrative threads have been rectified and have paid off. You will recognize and admire the true quality of this show in retrospect.
@firelizard2425
@firelizard2425 2 жыл бұрын
If you watch the videos he made before RoP actually came out, he went in with an open mind the whole time. The only negative attitude he had towards the show prior to seeing it was some parts of what was teased that contradicted the lore that Tolkein wrote. Now that it's out he's seen it and decided for himself that it's not fantastic. That's not really jumping on a bandwagon, that's just forming an opinion that happens to agree with other people's opinions. If you hear from your friends that "the pasta at this restaurant is always bland" then you order the pasta and decide, after eating it, that it is in fact bland, have you "jumped on the bandwagon of negative bias" or did you just happen to agree with your peers?
@jeffburke5606
@jeffburke5606 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also a long time Tolkien geek, and I dislike the Rings of Power because the series is just flat out badly written. I don't care about changes to the canon; I don't care about the politics; what I do care about is that the show writers don't bit more than a goose know how to present compelling or likable characters, don't know how to hold the viewer's interest and don't know how to pace a story properly.
@mambojambo4870
@mambojambo4870 2 жыл бұрын
@Adrian nice unbiased world view you woke fk
@lc7664
@lc7664 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, this video isn't even about Rings of Power, it's about a different adaptation entirely.... Please watch videos before trying to critique things the creators don't even say..
@klutttmuttsprutt6087
@klutttmuttsprutt6087 2 жыл бұрын
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