The Mightiest Wolf to Walk the World | Of Beren and Lúthien : Silmarillion Explained - Part 8 of 9

With a Silmaril searing his belly, Carcharoth rains ruin on Elves and Men. We come to the climax of the story!
Check out the full story:
Beren & Lúthien 101 | Introduction - • Beren and Lúthien 101 ...
Beren & the Outlaws | Part 1 - • Beren & the Outlaws Un...
Lúthien Tinúviel | Part 2 - • Lúthien Tinúviel - Dau...
The Quest of the Silmaril | Part 3 - • The Quest of the Silma...
The Escape of Lúthien | Part 4 - • The Escape of Lúthien ...
Sauron's Island of Werewolves | Part 5 - • Sauron's Island of Wer...
Finrod Felagund Character Breakdown - • Finrod Felagund - Full...
The Wolfhound of Valinor | Part 6 - • The Wolfhound of Valin...
Inside Angband | Part 7 - • Inside Angband | Of Be...
The Hunt of the Wolf | Part 8 - • The Mightiest Wolf to ...
The Doom of Beren & Lúthien | Part 9 - • The Doom of Beren and ...
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Much love, stay groovy, and navaer melyn nin!

[@richardjohansen5371]

Rest in peace Huan, mightiest of hounds and Goodest of the Good boys.

[@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit]

Huan: Was I a good boy? Beren: No. You were the best.

[@_spacegoat_]

Huan's death reminds us that in whatever age, we are unworthy of the loyalty dogs show us so freely.

[@Xxpavement_angelxX]

Ecco being a fan of lotr is very cool to know!! :D

[@carltuckerson7718]

I'm just glad Amazon can't get their greasy paws on this storyline.

[@richardjohansen5371]

Oh they have already announced that they are creating a mockery of it... ironically with male elf and a female "man" ...so much for the "strong female characters" thing.

[@magiv4205]

@@richardjohansen5371 Tolkien's already done that, it's called Andreth and Aegnor, but they sadly weren't meant to be.

[@joeyharrison7879]

Ecco been watching this bro bro

[@BigBWolf90]

Elu Thingol: ...you're still alive? Beren: yeah pretty much. Elu Thingol: ....you know what the hell with it I gotta hear this story

[@danjoe9291]

at the bus stop cr crushing rocks

[@kanyasmr]

double k crystals kiss my nose

[@chrisschmalhofer4348]

Considering Tolkien’s experiences with war and the horrific wounds suffered by the soldiers of WWI and WWII, I can’t help but think that there was quite a bit of sympathy for those who had lost hands, legs, and other parts of their bodies in war. In a way, I think he’s trying to say “yes, what you lost and what you’re suffering is great, But your life is not over and your deeds and contributions may be equally great. Do not lose hope!” Keeping hope alive in the face of overwhelming odds is also a recurring theme of the legendarium, so while Tolkien specifically “did not write allegory”, I can’t help but think there might have been at least a little moral to this story.

[@tolkienuntangled]

This is a very good point. Apparently, more so than any other war up until that point, a huge numbers of wounded soldiers who survived WWI were left with amputations and disfigurements. So much so that plastic surgery was (more or less) invented in the years after the war to help these wounded men. Beren and Maedhros could very well be an allusion to that.

[@evenstar1608]

Any reactors who have an in-depth understanding of worldly affairs, would say that the legendarium has a moral values. In any Tolkien books.

[@gothngo2943]

He didn't like intentional allegory, but he couldn't escape his own frame of reference, and he wasn't opposed to simile. So perhaps it's more a simile - Beren is like or as a soldier or soldiers he knew. I'm stretching things, but still.

[@damasek219]

I'd rather say no. It's probably not allusion, simile or any kind of reference to WW1 or any event from his experience.

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

Thank god Tolkien didn’t die during WW1. I can’t imagine a world without the stories of Tolkien.

[@daemonsilver3304]

Dave. You as executive producer, Peter Jackson as director. Silmarilion twelve part miniseries, two hours per. I feel Tolkien's legendarium would be done honorably thus.

[@Brandon_Bonanza]

I love they way you paraphrased Thingol talking to Beren, "Alright, fair enough" 🤣😂 Another spectacular video, friend!!🔥🧙‍♂️🔥

[@kinniato]

this thing gonna blow up cuz of ecco2k

[@p7stol]

real

[@k.katona9415]

Beren revealing his missing hand is my top favorite moment in the entire Silmarillion, so witty and amazing >w

[@Djcpluss]

Shoutout ecco

[@IMONBLOGTVWITHMYFUCKINGHANDSUP]

he pulled up in a rover

[@jojobookish9529]

Everything else about RoP aside, in episode 1 you can see Huan is carved into Luthien's memorial with her. Whoever made that art decision is clearly the coolest.

[@resathe6760]

where in episode 1 do we see a memorial of Luthien?

[@jojobookish9529]

@resathe6760 it's when Galadriel is walking through the memorial trees. There's a brief shot of one that shows a woman with a large hound. The only woman the Elves would be memorializing alongside a large hound is Luthien.

[@resathe6760]

hm, I looked it up right now and you might be right that it's supposed to be Luthien but what irritates me is the eight pointed star on the statue. That's Feanor's symbol. And other than the long hair it doesn't look very female to me. But who knows, I wouldn't put it past the creators to muck that up. Looks more like Celegorm although it makes no sense that they would've a statue of him there

[@Shirohige4yonko]

​@@resathe6760this is why I wish the silmarillion would stay just as written works. It's such a fantastic story that adapting into a TV series would tarnish it.

[@resathe6760]

@@Shirohige4yonko Totally agree, if all we get is mediocrity they better leave it alone completely

[@kray2sick]

Ecco2k gonna have a medieval phase now

[@scorpiomoon2535]

I tried to read the Silmarillion but didn’t make it all the way through…but Luthien was always a character that I remembered, for what she was able to do to Morgoth especially. The always ill-fated love affairs between elves and humans has also been a theme I’ve been drawn to….anyway, your channel has been incredibly informative and enjoyable! Thank you so much.

[@sayagarapan1686]

Nice try.

[@TrangDB9]

Go with an audio book, it's easier.

[@gothngo2943]

Rainbow Dave got me bawling like a big baby again. Huan deserved a long life and all the treats and pets. And Lúthien. OMG. I'm so in love with my husband, even after knowing him a good 15 years or so, that I'd make the same choices.

[@terenceheusaff967]

With everything going on in the world right now. Your storytelling gives me a sense of peace. I'm listening to it while drinking a hot cup of mint tea.

[@tolkienuntangled]

I'm really glad you feel that way!

[@shijima_ending]

any drainers

[@le-so4ne]

yo

[@haleyschreiter9746]

I just have to say that my favorite moment in this entire series has got to be your comparison of how Thingol responds to first Beren and then to Celegorm when they both ask for Luthien's hand in marriage. I laughed so hard, because it's so true! 🤣

[@MrARock001]

I would love how some of the secondary characters' myths would have been developed in reality. Mablung: "And this is Beleg, who has a *magic* arrow that he can always find after he shoots it." Beleg: "It's not a magic arrow! For the last time, it's a *regular* arrow!" Mablung: "But you always find it in the dirt after you miss your shots! Magic!" Beleg: "Because I *look for it* you moron! Anyone can find an arrow if they look for it!" Mablung: "Maaagic. Elven maaagic!"

[@evelynrosewindsor]

I personally believe that it was Thingol’s fault, not Beren’s, that Carcharoth terrorized Doriath, for it was the elf king who set that suicidal task of retrieving a Silmaril upon Beren. Had he not tried to have Beren disposed of for having the courage to ask for his daughter’s hand in marriage, then Carcharoth would not be there. Question. Do you think that Beren was ambidextrous? He seemed to be able to wield a weapon using his left hand after losing his right one. 🤔

[@tolkienuntangled]

Very good question. I guess during his time as an outlaw he probably got pretty good with both hands.

[@skillsmachine9164]

Question also: when beren and luthian got to live another life and leave the halls of mandos was he whole again? Had his hand once more?

[@DHTC888]

Thank You Rainbow Dave!!! I'm taking this to work with me so I don't have time to comment now - and I also wanted to thank you for that Numenor thing last week I've been listening to that A LOT making deliveries at work. Thanx Rainbow Dave!!! ❤💛💚💙💜

[@tolkienuntangled]

I'm really glad you enjoy the videos!

[@richardjohansen5371]

I love how you put it "Arguably, they have made things worse for Middle-Earth. They unleashed the worst of all the werewolves on the world...but its okay, they're working on it."

[@chillcat5677]

here cuz of ecco

[@MrARock001]

It would have been incredibly sad and painfully ironic that should anyone (e.g. of the Edain) have encountered Dairon in the Third Age, they might have recognized the woman he sang of, but the only song they would likely have sung in response was the Lay of Lúthien, which would be the one song Dairon *did not want to hear.*

[@tolkienuntangled]

Very good point.

[@tammygant4216]

Yeah, I imagined Dairon just on the edge of vision, listening as Aragorn sang it that night around the campfire on the way to Rivendell.

[@MechaLeo]

We all knew how Huan’s tale would end, in a manner of speaking. It was clearly laid out for everyone, Huan would die to the greatest wolf the world has ever seen. We knew, everyone in middle earth and abroad knew it damn near felt like, the story gave us THREE antagonistic wolves as a tease, it’s like a more well constructed version of the gag from Ian McShane as the second best character in that Rock Johnson Hercules movie. And yet, the ill fated battle with the greatest wolf of Arda still manages to completely steal the show. And as tragic as his story is, I can’t help but see a poetic beauty in a dog and his master giving their lives in joint for the sake of a beloved, a lord, now father, his land, his people, and an oath, all in the name of love triumphing against the darkest evil. This didn’t have to be Huan’s, nor Beren’s battle, but it was one they were more than willing to die besides one another for.

[@Harpyr1031]

Yay. I kept checking to see when this would be uploaded. These videos make my Friday. As a movie this story would be awesome.

[@kevinpotts123]

What a spectacular fight, and what a great description of it Rainbow Dave. Thanks.

[@sebastianvaler4235]

Whos here cause of ecco’s insta story

[@pmx1000_]

Exactly

[@juuz499]

ecco2k

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

We're so close to the end of this lovely story, but so far from the end of the amazing stories that this lovely story is a part of. Great videos man.

[@lordofthehouseofstormcrows8615]

Well met RD! This whole series is magnifico! Keep up the great work Mellon! I'm almost sad that this story is over. Ok so when Huan dies...I started crying. He was the bestest boi.... For Beren! For Huan!

[@mypeeps1965]

Amazing job. Well done! Ilúvatars hand is all over this story and probably had something to do with Melian and Thingol falling in love as well.

[@enzg]

knew what comments were coming lol

[@NarwhaI95]

I kept expecting for beren to pull through like in most stories, but the fact that he parts ways alongside the goodest boy is so beautifully saddening. Is huan ever described by Tolkien? I've seen many different renditions of him but they're all different to one another

[@tolkienuntangled]

I don't think Tolkien does ever give a description beyond wolfhound. I, and many other artists, imagine Huan to be an Irish wolfhound, but Tolkien never actually states what breed he is one way or another.

[@bw040690]

​@@tolkienuntangled I like to consider him much more wolf than hound, absolutely huge, fast, tireless. Immortal I believe, beat Sauron, I think may be Mia? Was lord of hounds for the Valar god of war basically. An absolute beast. Had a hand in chasing Morgoth and Ungoliant after killing the trees and stealing the stones I think.

[@MellowMutts270]

Carcharoths story is pretty sad to me too, even though he is absolutely terrifying and even though he killed Huan which is pretty unforgivable. He maybe probably would’ve been a heckin good boy had it not been for the corrupting influence of Morgoth. This was definitely my favorite in this series so far and I am very sad to see Huan leave the story but I imagine he’s running around Valinor playing fetch with Oromë.

[@st.michaelsknight6299]

Have you seen his father?

[@AlexisLopez-pb8ms]

How do you only have just over 100k subscribers. You should have over 1 million. Love your content and the passion you use when telling these fantastic stories.

[@chris_wtf]

Ecco2k watches u :33

[@samvimes9510]

I love the detail that Beren's hand is incorrupt inside the wolf's belly. As we all know, Tolkien was Catholic, and it reminds me of the tales of saints who died but their bodies did not decay.

[@hansnordby6932]

Loved this video. Thank you for bringing these stories to life! You have become my favorite Tolkien channel!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the channel.

[@alohafer]

By far my favorite Tolkien story. Thanks so much!!

[@jamesmitchell4927]

Beleg is my fav Elf of the first age, maybe all the ages.... Im so happy he is in your top 5 :)

[@chaoticgood3935]

I have seriously been putting watching this particular video off because I haven’t been ready to accept Huan’s fate! Finally had to bite the bullet and watch it. Excellent as per usual.

[@tolkienuntangled]

RIP Huan

[@magiv4205]

Obligatory rest in Peace Huan, the goodest boi of all time. You were the greatest Hound that ever lived. Beren too, but his story isn't quite over yet. Thingol's character development in this story is just a treat to witness. He starts out as an overbearing asshole of a father and, for all intents and purposes, a secondary villain in the story, but even then, you understand where he's coming from, considering all the long years of suffering and slow descent of the land and its inhabitants he's witnessed - and especially the bullshit Fëanor's family is constantly up to, aswell as the betrayal of the Easterlings - that would turn anyone jaded if they lived that long. Of course he's overprotective of his daughter, even though he's being an asshole about it. But the way he finally realized the error of his ways and how wrong his treatment of both Beren and Lúthien was, was amazing. And just when he started to warm up to him, Beren sacrificed himself without a thought for Thingol, proving once again how great of a man he is. I imagine that must have hurt Thingol alot. So of course it would be Thingol who holds Beren when he is bleeding out, and still, even though they're now on relatively good terms, Beren is stubborn as always and one-ups Thingol again by finally completing his quest and handing him the Silmaril. This time, instead of reacting prideful at what I imagine would have previously been interpreted as a last "I told you I'd get it done, so fuck you", Thingol just feels shame and regret at himself, over the loss of a great man, and over his daughter's grief. It's a bittersweet conclusion to his character (well, his character in this part of the story), but also a realistic and kind of hopeful one. Yes, his regret came very late, but it shows that it's always possible to change for the better, no matter how set in your ways you are.

[@Dr_Cole]

Fantastic story crafting! Sure, this applies to Tolkien, but I am specifically calling out Dave and his incredible craftwork of this telling. This video, in particular, was fantastically organized, crafted with the video components, and orated like a master at conveying oral history to the tribes subjects.

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks very much!

[@karlarden6260]

Happy Friday, Rainbow Dave. Stay groovy 🤟 I finally got Covid, and was so looking forward to another Friday dose of Tolkien. Cheers!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Happy Friday. I hope you feel better soon!

[@artewilliams758]

Omg..how heartwrenching is this story...and Dave really brings it to life. Certainly brings tears to your eyes...Beren telling Luthien goodbye and brave, loyal Huan. The most loyalest of Dogs. You could not ask for a more loyal friend but omg what an ending to this part. J R R Tolkien truly was a genius.

[@jayoyo1001]

I’m surprised that Daeron never meant Arwen considering that she looked a lot like her great great great grandmother Luthien but I’m happy that never happened his heart would been broken again because Arwen fell in love with Aragorn. I hope after the end of the first or second or third age he went back to Valinor.

[@tolkienuntangled]

That would have been so sad for Daeron if he fell in love with Arwen.

[@MrARock001]

And that's how the epic Lay of Lúthien ended: "The quest was fulfilled (sort of)." 😂💚

[@pauprint66]

ecco

[@isaklombard3426]

What an epic Video !!!

[@stewartmckenna3013]

Thanks Dave, this was the best yet. I loved the humorous parts

[@keithbass1094]

I’ve read this story many times and ur always makes me happy sad Listening to you retell it does the same thing, ♥️♥️♥️

[@mlebrooks]

Your channel has grown so much. Good job

[@tolkienuntangled]

Thanks so much. It wouldn't be possible without people like you!

[@user-sd7ri9fy4i]

Nice work dude thanks

[@tonyusa5509]

Maybe it is just my impression but I think that Thingol was happy that Beren was following him to the hunt of Carcharoth. I think that Thingol wanted him dead and he would encourage Beren to to do anything to finally find his death. Thingol was an egocentric person. All his Ego will bring him to find his own death at the end

[@tolkienuntangled]

You're not wrong about his ego leading to his demise.

[@tonyusa5509]

@@tolkienuntangled He didn't even listen to Melian to get rid of the silmaril

[@AI-du7lg]

incoming dg comments

[@MarleyFett]

One of my favorite characters and stories of Tolkien's.❤️🙏

[@crcurran]

"...it's OK. They're working it" 🤣

[@rarexxrarirose79]

Who’s here from ecco2k?

[@brucebrantley5692]

I am 19 mins. I see that you are talking about Beleg. I am crying my dude. I know where this is going. and I just let it go.

[@andywilliams8540]

Beleg is so cool. And Turin is my fav character and favourite story in the silmarillion. There’s so much pathos in the story, especially the scene you’re referring to.

[@MrARock001]

The machinations of the two bad brothers surely must have seemed strange even to those who knew them: in a society where everyone is immortal and expected to live forever, the whole "marrying the daughter to claim the kingdom" trope would be a very weird flex. Like, sure marry my daughter. But she'll be widowed before I ever die.

[@davidthetraveler1466]

I really hope Huan's soul is allowed a good place to spend eternity. If anyone deserves it, he does. Also, props to Tolkien for positive depictions of disabled people long before it was cool.

[@samwill7259]

I always knew that Tolkien took a LOT of inspiration from mythology, mostly norse and celtic but he integrated it so well. I had to go back and listen again to realize the start of this part basically begins with an allusion to Tyr and Fafnir.

[@TrangDB9]

He also drew much inspiration from Christianity though.

[@st.michaelsknight6299]

He actually takes alot more from catholicism then he does from norse mythology, but he does take inspiration from alot of sources.

[@DantThePlant]

ecco watchin this???????

[@ryanlaurie8733]

Beren: Yeah so it's in my hand, my hand just is here precisely. Thingol: Lol, you know what? Fair is fair.

[@damasek219]

I'd love to see Beren and Luthien epic movie.

[@hannah51238]

I promised my eldest we'd get a dog when he gets a big older. We will be naming him Huan and he shall be a good boy ❤

[@tolkienuntangled]

That is awesome!

[@michaelmele3954]

From the moment that Beren & Luthien escape Angband, how come Morgoth isn't sending out huge armies of orcs to go chase down the escaping Silmaril?

[@conormurphy1954]

Fun and I know completely wrong headcanon but still: Morgoth feeding Carcharoth on his power is what inspired Sharon to make the Ring

[@benoftheweek]

where ecco at

[@zodeadlifts9295]

In my bedroom kissin on my neck. Do something about it

[@oceanlawnlove8109]

4.85M subs o_O

[@jxddii]

i love ecco2k 🤭🤭🤭

[@Jmike12345]

He was such a good dog…

[@graemerigg4029]

Best Doggo Ever!

[@CaveMan72]

Paused listening to Hozier to watch this

[@havolei]

Glad I'm not the only one to feel pity for poor Carcharoth.

[@wesleygoncalves6391]

Hello Dave of many colours

[@tolkienuntangled]

Hello 👋

[@12classics39]

Beren must’ve started off terrified of dogs of any kind because why wouldn’t he? Werewolves devoured his friends right in front of him and he needed to be saved from them. But here it is a dog who saves him from another dog and shows him not all dogs are bad.

[@ChrisGrahamkedzuel]

Huan, the bestest good boy of all of Arda.

[@KickassMcfly]

Something I've been wondering, and maybe you even touched upon it but I fail to remember, because of Morgoth having the Silmarillions in his crown, does most of his servants just hate being in his presence? Cause he must be glowing like a lighthouse lol

[@johnbigboote8900]

Won't lie to you. Cried more than a little over the fate of Huan. Also, I can't but feel that Daeron illustrates one of the drawbacks of being an Elf: He'll live a long, long life tortured by his unrequited love, and on top of that the object of his desire will (potentially) live a long life as well, not returning his feelings. Oh, yeah, and one last thing: I, probably, will never be groovy, despite being born at the beginning of the sixties. It's not going to happen, but I do appreciate your good wishes on that point.

[@culthalionmorgan6282]

Love Mablung!

[@Jessica-uf3zp]

I’m not crying, you’re crying

[@ionutalex5529]

13:22 and his name is John CENA! pam pa na pam...every time lol

[@Fledermausmann]

I think the inspiration of this legend was from Cu Chulainn, if I recall correctly... Either way, this tale is a fitting ending for the goodest boi in all of Middle Earth. Huan...

[@johnicenogle593]

If this story is ever put on film, there will not be a dry eye in the cinema when Huan dies.

[@qwertyfiable5069]

"...anyway, for the good of all he must be slain" - heh.

[@elirinamk2051]

🐶💥🐺=👼+👻=👑

[@nicholasbarber3644]

can you do a story on turin

[@tolkienuntangled]

When I'm done with Beren and Luthien I'll do a short series on the Fifth Battle (which sets up the story of Turin) and then I'll do a whole playlist like this one on Turin and the Children of Hurin

[@godspeed4225]

combat ballerina

[@kinniato]

robber0540

[@godspeed4225]

@@kinniato ghost writer

[@joshwells3782]

I wish more people had those same Anglo Saxon values of honor and things like that the world would be a better place and I don't mean anything about race just the values

[@prod.xghost]

2g K went down the hole

[@swiftie762]

hi ecco

[@kyanowo]

DRAAAAAAAIN GANG

[@mosj9876]

I cried a little...so what. I'm no punk beoch! Hail Huan the mighty hound!!!

[@tolkienuntangled]

Hail Huan!

[@similaritiesendhere]

Wait... Huan let Sauron live? If Eru knows all, doesn't this create the "problem of evil" paradox that most modern religious people have to pretend to not see (they all see it when it affects them)?

[@michaelt.5672]

You mean the question of why an almighty and all-knowing God would allow evil to exist?

[@bauglir2462]

What if Carcaroth playfully lay on his back instead of snarling at Beren and Luthien?

[@cristopherfernandez5765]

🥰🥰🥰