Tom and Ben the Lost Primarchs

[@bryalogicalgaming5817]

We find out that Tom is the inventor of the Tommy Gun and Ben is the inventor of Benga

[@jt1687]

Jenga*. There is no such thing as this "Benga" that you speak of and as such, no copies of it were ever sold. Please report to a member of the Yogscast's legal team for 're-education'.

[@bryalogicalgaming5817]

@jt1687 I don't believe you when you say Yogscast has a legal team. I've watched jinglejam before, I know the truth.

[@drafezard7315]

@@bryalogicalgaming5817 Tell that to redacted.

[@kdhlkjhdlk]

No, Benga was invented by Arkhan Benga.

[@Mathewson1G]

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[@meeyatttA]

If Tom and Ben were primarch-sized compared to their legions, the rest of the Imperium would be like gnomes

[@RubelliteFae]

Maybe they were an early test that was deemed too big because compared to them everyone else just looked like tiny toys.

[@Cbyneorne]

Ben's smile when he says "we're the naughty boys" is everything.

[@SquirlNutssss]

Tom and Ben as primarchs would basically be the warhammer equivalent to galaxy quest

[@TheOnlyMassey]

I would pay cinema ticket prices to watch that film!

[@YangKos5000]

Tom and Ben are normal streamers until one day they are transported to a sci-fi fantasy world. Literally every Hollywood video game adaptation.

[@yakobsoulstorm5187]

The thing is, that’s not intrinsically a problematic setup if you just have them be regular people who have to be crafty with their knowledge.

[@bwood6337]

​@@yakobsoulstorm5187 It's not necessarily a problematic setup for a totally original movie. If the game is an existing IP then it's just the typical dog shit.

[@yakobsoulstorm5187]

@@bwood6337 Nah it could work for an actual game.

[@I_Am_Kas]

Ben marines is literally just the shark guard.

[@crumbsonar7411]

my favorite theory is that the lost primarchs fell to chaos but did something to redeem themselves so instead of being deemed traitor legions, they just got expunged as their reward for redemption

[@jonasquinn7977]

They learned the horrible truth, the Emperor was Jimmy Space all along!

[@MrSumphora]

Some fun ideas: 1. One of the infant Primarchs was raised by friendly xenos races and fought against the Imperium. 2. One rebelled against the Imperium because the Imperium was too cruel and monstrous towards humans and peaceful xenos races. 3. One got bodyjacked by a rogue AI or possessed by a daemon. 4. One was too ambitious and power-hungry, and decided to try and conquer the Imperium (edit: which would differ somewhat from Horus, who was motivated more by resentment and a belief that the Emperor had failed). 5. One got found by Orks and somehow became a Warboss (bit like the Digganobz). 6. One got captured by the Rangdan or another aggressive xenos race as a child, and was enslaved and used as a living weapon against the Imperium.

[@battenburg6089]

number 4 doesnt make much sense, considering Horus was never expunged from records.

[@drafezard7315]

Number 4 is literally just Horus though.

[@MrSumphora]

@@battenburg6089 A few points: 1) The Horus Heresy would have been a much larger and far more cataclysmic than a rebellion by the II or XI legions, and far harder to conceal from absolutely everyone 2) By the end of the Horus Heresy the Emperor is basically a corpse, and Malcador is dead. Who would give the order to cover it up to the same degree? 3) In a certain sense there is still a cover up, since the Imperium suppresses knowledge of Chaos and the existence of the Traitor Primarchs and Chaos Space Marines. Ordinary people don't know about the Horus Heresy at all. It's just that there are more people who we encounter who know the truth, like Space Marines, Inquisitors, senior officials, and important nobles etc. So, all in all, I think it does make sense actually.

[@MrSumphora]

@@drafezard7315 Like I said in my other reply, you're ignoring the difference of scale, and the fact that would make a coverup much harder, since basically the entire Imperium was devastated and half the Primarchs turned traitor. Moreover, with the Emperor incapacitated and Malcador dead, there wouldn't really be anyone who could enforce a perfect coverup anyway. And again, it still has to be said that the Imperium is basically a dystopian police state in 40k which very much does suppress the truth about the Horus Heresy and Chaos etc. Ordinary people in the Imperium know basically nothing about either, even though more powerful and important people know considerably more.

[@drafezard7315]

@@MrSumphora It would still be boring artistically to have one of two lost Primarchs basically be another Horus when there are way more interesting things they could do with them, if they ever wished to reveal what happened. I was never arguing it wouldn't be feasible lore wise. I feel your comment is definitely more directed at the other guy...

[@alexgustavus7822]

one of the Primarchs was accidentally sent back in time and became the emperor.

[@bobdrooples]

The Bain Maries The legion that keeps stiff luke warm...for ages.

[@HPugwash]

The emperor caught the two primarchs engaing in suoerhuman incest and he and Malcador dont vibe with that

[@MisterTingles]

one of them was a little too lukewarm on the whole "fascism" thing, the other one was caught on the wifi looking at Eldar rule 34...

[@jessiechen279]

I like to think one of them sided with the interex after the events of planet murder.....When the imperium inevitibly turned on them, i like to think one the primarch's stood up and said WTAF! They just saved our asses!....

[@batcat4136]

I like the idea that one of the Lost Primarchs died before the Emperor found them, and so the Legion that was meant for them was just absorbed into some other Legion and everyone was mindwiped to maintain morale and due to the shame of one of the Emperor’s sons fully dying

[@maz12351]

It’s weird that the lost primarchs apparently did something bad Like half of them already turned to chaos what could they have possibly done My theory is one wasn’t xenophobic and was willing to work with more stable xeno factions

[@maz12351]

Maybe one actually rejected the Emperor and continued to live a peaceful life on there adopted homeworld Some backwater lost colony world somewhere just has a 12 feet tall imortal farmer

[@travishimebaugh8381]

Check the couch cushions

[@SnazBrigade]

i always subscribed to the theory that the two primarchs were participating in the Ragdan Xenocides and were just like "this isn't right" and the emperor new they were persuasive enough to be a problem so had to get rid of them and hide the reason lest the truth about xenos NOT all being hideous human eating monstrosities get out

[@iamcatlegend]

My theory is that one of them landed on a world with Chaos stuff going on and was, to some extent, corrupted by it even before the Emperor found him, while the other ended up on a planet with frequent friendly contact with some kind of xenos and therefore didn't subscribe to human supremacy (which could dove-tail nicely with your theory).

[@Hatypus]

...I feel like the Rangda aren't the best example for "Not all Xenos are bad"

[@MrSumphora]

Eh, that doesn't really make sense. What little we know about the Rangdan Cerabvores/Osseivores is that they were a very dangerous expansionist threat, and that they were connected with the Slaugth (a species of 'maggot men') who consider human brains a delicacy. It would make much more sense if they opposed any of the xenocides against actual innocent species and polities, like the xenos-friendly Interex and Diasporex, or xenos species like the Adarnians (who were initially allowed to be an Imperial protectorate because they were so non-threatening, but who were then rapidly driven to extinction when it was discovered they were a good ingredient for rejuvenat treatments).

[@phluid61]

I reckon one of them got eaten by the Rangda (the forgotten), and they were supposed to hush it up because that would shatter the illusion of the primarch's infallibility and undermine the Emperor's grand plan, but one of them wouldn't shut up and Leman Russ ate him (the purged).

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

Welcome to the kitchen, O Ben marines!

[@solidsentinel1285]

I think the lost primarchs were actually kremlo and they banished him to fantasy, after all he came from space

[@jackstewart2258]

I do like the sigmar theory but it doesn't actually make sence because he grew up at a normal pace and was a normal sized man. He also wasn't THAT much more powerful than other men look alpharius the physically weakest and smallest primarch he was still over nine feet tall and stronger than any space marine. All GW did was say what disregard a verry disproveible theory