Tom Girardi Indicted. Faces Criminal Charges Over Theft From Clients | Lawyer Reacts. The Emily Show

[@TheEmilyDBaker]

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[@Democracy982]

Wow

[@charmingfrock101]

I won't be happy until they go after the lawyers at the California Bar that were in his pocket.

[@starrynyte158]

Not to mention all the judges and politicians whose pockets Girardi lined all those years. I am positive all that campaign money helped to brush things under the rug

[@EdinburghMayhem]

@@starrynyte158 YES! YES! Clear the whole crooked lot of them out.

[@jcs137]

Notice this didn’t start IN CA but IL even though it has been going on for decades in CA.

[@FlaNative3]

@@jcs137 Yeah, because Edelson wasn’t afraid of Girardi & was only concerned for his clients, like all lawyers should be

[@Rae777]

@@FlaNative3 Edelson showed amazing integrity out of all the people in this shit show!

[@lexieluthor310]

As an accountant that specializes in keeping trust funds accurately recorded, it is BAFFLING to me that it got this far

[@Rae777]

Oversight always stops somewhere. Seems like the people who would’ve caught it were in this guy’s pocket. Normal people could never get away with this.

[@burf90]

I have a headache after listening to this, largely because my head has been shaking no, no, no, no throughout. Just no. Unbelievable. I REALLY want to see accountability at the California State Bar, too. Everyone who glossed over all those complaints should be sacked and sued.

[@forrestfey]

Needs to be investigated!

[@angieleighanderson6252]

Good! Need to start holding these top dogs accountable for their bullshit 🤷🏼‍♀️😊

[@theimpishartist]

This makes Erika's shameless spending, the chicanery & self indulgence of her lifestyle so incredibly vulgar.

[@belle6478]

“It’s expensive to be me” was an understatement. Glad her songs titles fit her so well like “pretty mess” 😂

[@hollyanderson2875]

She can’t sing I mean it was so obvious he just did it for her. She talks Like Elizabeth Holmes wanted too and her signing is horrible

[@laurenR814]

And he pleaded not guilty. His entire existence is one huge lie. I hope he’s deemed competent to testify, bc I’m pretty sure that was a lie too! Thx for bringing us the legal tea 💜💜

[@michellecashman9757]

My uncle is a detective for LA County, he says that people plead not guilty to avoid the maximum penalty. This gives them an opportunity to negotiate a plea deal.

[@israel963]

Yeah you don’t plead guilty up front it’s a bad negotiation plan. He needs to try to contest competence to stand trial at the very least - if he’s actually on the decline for alzheimers? Prison just doesn’t make a lot of sense. He wouldn’t even be able to associate it with his actions 🤷‍♂️

[@missvickimae1150]

@@israel963 He has the mental capacity to be held accountable imo, his mental incompetence was just another lie, don’t be fooled. ;)

[@EdinburghMayhem]

I saw that young lad Client 1 on the documentary. That poor young guy still in so much pain and having to go through all these future operations. There is just nothing the law can do to these lawyers that would make this right. You know he's never going to see the 53 million. The law soc should have to pay him every single penny and if that bankrupts them, then maybe they'll crack down on these f*ing creeps and crooks much, MUCH quicker!

[@khufu8699]

It should not be possible for lawyers to even have access of client funds. This whole "escrow" account thing needs to be Refactored. Third part escrow (not the layer, not the client) would be one simple solution. The escrow company needs dual approvals to write checks. It is a black mark on the whole legal system that things like this have been allowed to happen for so long. It happens all over the place and at smaller scales where nobody knows and people give up as it would cost more to sue the first lawyer with a second lawyer, than the funds they would get. So the system is rigged against people that are less than independently wealthy.

[@michaeldiamond2755]

Thinking the same thing!

[@Laura-bi5dc]

100% agree!!!!

[@miranduhbert]

I have been eat, sleep, and breathing EDB this week…. I have to say it is giving me confidence though. Taking an income tax class for my grad program. I have to write a paper referencing case law. I’m using this law talk as study tools… I think that makes sense. Anyways, love you and appreciate all the content you work so hard to make for us!!! (Someday this poor student will be able to afford your memberships again!)

[@adelebz7]

@Mirandh Good luck on your courses.

[@eversolooney]

Good Luck!

[@Kellyyy44]

Good luck hun!!! You got this!!!

[@lelacooper3593]

Good luck!!

[@AllTheHappySquirrels]

Good luck! You got this!

[@SaraShuffles84]

This makes me physically ill that he got away with this for so long. Everyone including the California bar needs to go down for this. It is sooo wrong

[@starrynyte158]

Omg this is incredible! Never expected this to happen

[@EdinburghMayhem]

It seems to me that a WHOLE lot of this could have been avoided if the COURT, when settling etc or divvying up amounts, notified the client AS WELL AS the lawyer dealing with the case. If any of these people had been notified directly that a settlement had been reached and detailing the amount, then Girardi could not have pulled this off.

[@cynthiawren-burke2989]

Was thinking the exact same thing!!!

[@lucyjane3803]

But that is literally the job of the lawyer - to be the intermediary between the court and the client. Which is why the breach of trust here is so horrifying.

[@FrenchyTaylor]

How could those people sleep at night while they continued their predatory behaviour and spent money like water on national tv. I am baffled !

[@splendidpursuits]

Easy! Be so confident in your superiority that hurting people "beneath" you is not only acceptable but expected.

[@kellyallday365]

I never thought they’d indict him either.

[@ppekpb]

It seems to me that attorneys have way too much leeway with client monies! This case has has brought out the level of misconduct and corruption in the American Bar association and the Los Angeles Judicial System.

[@darkydoom]

How do these people SPEND this much money? And they have nothing to show for it. Insane

[@Rae777]

They waste more money than a lot of people will ever earn. It’s disheartening.

[@Sheila-G]

Can the injured clients sue to state bar for negligence in not doing something about all the complaints???

[@TheAverageSavage1021]

I just want to see every single moment of the investigation into the California state bar. I want to see every single person who decided to shelf or hide all 175 of those complaints. Without so much as a simple investigation. There’s gotta be so many people, some retired; some dead, but most actively still working and likely being paid off to hide complaints of other people. I need to see that, and I want every second of those trials broadcast. It’s bad enough the lawyers do it, but when the lawyers ultimate supervisor who holds the ability to disbar them doesn’t do shit- it goes so much deeper.

[@msdaphne]

Whenever anyone asks "What did Erika know?", I think "How would Erika know?" If this guy is duping and lulling so many people for so long, and is held in such high regard, why would she know? And does he really seem like the kind of guy who lets his wife in on his business dealings? Does he seem like someone who is vulnerable with his wife about his wrongdoings? Because he seems to me like someone who is very old school and controlled/controlling. None of this is to excuse her selfish behavior and words after the fact, of course.

[@florrie3171]

Tom was interviewed outside his resthome awhile ago and he said Erika knew, I think she knew enough to know better.

[@codykimmel]

Because evidently many, many people knew. Do I think she's legally responsible? No. It's been established Tom had been doing this years before he even met Erika. But I think some of that buzz reached her ears.

[@msdaphne]

@@codykimmel exactly that. She in no way had the legal know-how to verify rumors, investigative capability, or relationship power to exert over him. Their marriage was not one of partnership.

[@ginabee848]

Like how he embarrassed her when she asked him a question or something at a dinner party and he flipped out on her. I don't think she could ask. Everybody at the table was shocked.

[@msdaphne]

@@ginabee848 yes. he wanted her in her place. She may have had some specific expressive "freedoms," but she was clearly never treated as an equal, given access to anything that was his, or allowed to ask questions.

[@starrynyte158]

I knew all of this, knew what he did, but somehow hearing it all just listed like this, it really hits home.

[@tinajohnson4374]

Emily you are amazing!! I learn so much listening to you.

[@heidiwaddell5721]

Is anyone surprised an attorney would steal from clients? I'd be surprised if this didn't happen...how many more are doing this? Millions I'd imagine

[@deebrown3708]

I’ve read that Tom was the one who decided which judges would be appointed in LA California. Goes deeper, politicians were paying him off to appoint certain judges.

[@lucyjane3803]

It has to go deeper, there is no way this went on so long without a lot of people in high places involved.

[@C1nderfire]

Doesn’t matter what they do to him, he won’t remember any of it. He lived his heyday, the high life, enjoyed the riches. It will all be a warning to others or to prove a point, uphold the law. But he won’t truly suffer any of the consequences.

[@Rae777]

People that do this kind of crime are more likely to destroy everyone around them than themselves. The consequences belong to those affected, not to perpetrators.

[@Kelly-xy5nh]

It takes a special kind of person to steal from people who have already suffered so much. My he get what he is owed and then some.

[@jjezebel37]

I'm shocked they've did this. Wow! Thanks Emma.

[@teaspillerdonalds5858]

If we look at just the 40 plus million dollars that he received, how do they not own anything? Not a car, not a plane, not a home, nothing.. They took the equity out of everything. Where is the money?

[@marygarcia456]

They Need to indict Erika Jayne she knew she's not dumb the way she was spending on the Rhbh come on people wake up!!

[@skyelizkhalil3950]

You are an amazing lawyer Love your new look God bless

[@sallycinnamon5370]

I am glad. We know the conservatorship court don’t seem to have a lot of checks and balances. They kept Britney in despite her protestations and a lack of findings of incompetence. I have no confidence in their ability to sort out a malingerer seeker conservatorship to avoid criminal consequences. He NEEDS a forensic assessment not just a simple doctor assessment for cognitive deficits.

[@missvickimae1150]

Well said ;)

[@Laura-bi5dc]

YES! He had so many judges and others in his pocket, how do we know he hasn’t paid off the doctors too (writing the reports saying he is “incompetent”)? The egregiousness of his behavior is beyond sickening!

[@greeneyedsoutherngirl6468]

After this and the Alex Murdaugh trial, I think every person will side eye an attorney in a civil case, probably forever.

[@staleysr47]

Thank you Emily for covering the Girardi case. This man has been committing so many crimes & the state of California didn't do anything to this man or the firm.

[@phylliskelly7910]

Great stuff Emily, thanks for helping me to understand all the shenanigans of these "fine upstanding citizens " 💚☘🇮🇪

[@Wendy-zl8kv]

Hardest working Lawyer Ever!!!!

[@lorismith621]

After listening to the things these lawyers did , know wonder Alex M thought the amount he took was nothing What the hell ?

[@angela_eric]

Even if the state bar has changed their rules, would there be a way that the state bar could be held partially liable for not investigating like they should have? Also, could the state bar be forced to have a third party investigate anyone else with many complaints against them? I see personally see the state bar partially responsible for not investigating fully enough into Girardi.

[@TheAverageSavage1021]

Where are the forensics on Erica’s end? Her entire text and email logs, Tom’s texts and emails- anything to show she knew what was happening. I can’t stand her, she’s disgusting and just as calculated.

[@Bjh-ot2xz]

Emily, I’m glad you emphasized that the client must agree and sign off on the settlement. Attorneys are doing this more often and I’ve wondered if this was legal or not.

[@MeganSpruce90]

I can't believe it's been 2 years since you first started covering this.. this case was one of the first that started me on my road to becoming a Law Nerd

[@vee_happy]

Whew, this was a difficult listen. Thx Emily 🙏🏾

[@charmingfrock101]

He can survive the rest of his life in the prison memory care facility instead of the bougie memory care he was conniving after.

[@WyoRockstar13]

Yes good point also Wondering how long he will stay alive. If he did a living will and advanced directives stating no antibiotics or heroic interventions he may not see the summer of 2023

[@MissDaphne.87]

Wow! Saw you in that music video. So impressed.

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[@forrestfey]

I realy have questions about the integrety and work ethics of the Califonia State Bar. Why did they not do what they should? It does not look good!

[@kelsis1532]

I have to say I hear “the boat case” and I have to remember which one!

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

I feel so bad for these people . It is awful. It would be nice if Erica would sell some of her purses and earrings to help pay those poor people back. I’m glad they’re going after these people and filing charges. They have to, because what’s going to stop other attorneys from doing the same thing.

[@sheilasophiea2589]

Follow the money to who ever Tom was paying off at the state bar

[@linusspacehead]

I'm no lawyer but I knew this would happen. A case this big, scandalous, and shocking? I'm just waiting for Erika's. I have no doubt they're leaving no stone unturned looking into her role in all of this.

[@PatMcAnn]

Well surprise, surprise. The California Bar issued this "apology" today (3/10): "The May report found that Girardi intentionally cultivated relationships at the State Bar and it spotlights nine individuals at all levels who accepted his largesse and failed to report it, creating conflicts of interest. The report details several instances in which the involvement in Girardi cases of conflicted individuals tainted the discretionary decisions they made on behalf of the State Bar, and as a result, the Girardi cases they worked on were improperly closed. *** A failure of this magnitude does tremendous damage to public trust, not only in the State Bar, but in the legal profession as a whole." Blah blah blah. Decades of malfeasance. 🤬

[@kat1984]

I hope Tom Girardi is found competent to stand trial

[@w.m.8126]

Random, but the indictment paperwork was so well written imo. Incredibly impressed by many lawyer's penmanship and just good work to y'all who write these documents !! (not a lawyer/in the legal field, but love a good long paper to read)

[@lafox21]

I don’t understand how and why so many clients (both here and especially in Alec Murdaugh’s case) didn’t inquire about their settlement monies??

[@EdinburghMayhem]

They trusted him. He had an amazing public rep. His 'fault' was not sending the smatterings of money he promised every month. Covid caught Tom Girardi and stopped the flow of cash, causing his scheme to fall down.

[@T3rra8]

Tbf I think a good number of the ones here were foreign and disadvantaged persons (like the plane crash clients were largely non-english speaking and lost family members who were working). How would they know that they were getting ripped off by someone who was meant to be advocating for them in a language they only know basic phrases in? And didn't the ones in the USA get directed by him to sue him via a guy in his pocket? The Alec ones is a bit more concerning but maybe it's the who nepotism level control the family had there.

[@alicyamatheson7877]

Trust 🤷‍♀️ plus I figure if the police can be that intimidated, not a far stretch the clients would back down even faster if they did question

[@beeawesome2869]

It's a sad reality when the people who are supposed to be on your team are the predators. This is why I believe that those with power and responsibility over others should be held more accountable than those who don't. As it stands, it's the opposite. People who have power and responsibility have all the loop holes and immunity. It makes the positions of power a magnet for narcissists and worse. Will this ever change?

[@hollyanderson2875]

My advice lawyers need to stop defending assholes lawyers. If you do anything illegal against a client automatic disbarment, and learning to say “would you like fries with that?”

[@billtanner7947]

There has also been a couple of former Girardi & Keese lawyers now working for another firm being charged for claims issues

[@sherrellelkins1976]

Of course they are SMH 😏

[@mejusthappyrobot1008]

I hope they indict his HORRIBLE wife too!

[@heatherdurham5102]

EDB! I vote the pickles name shall be Guilding the Dilly 😂

[@alicyamatheson7877]

I second this motion!! 🥒🥒🥒

[@c.b.6187]

Attorney fees are deducted first only if the WRITTEN fee agreement says the fees are a percentage of the GROSS settlement.

[@bessieknox]

FINALLY! 💯🎉🎉 oh my with the Murdoch trial poor Larry was walking around telling us about the big threat!

[@c.b.6187]

Any portion of settlement funds identified as payment for lost wages IS taxable.... as income. Funds for pain, suffering, med bills are NOT taxable.

[@maureenreynolds2083]

Where is the over seerers of the lawyer profession in California!? Are they not being unlawful too.

[@Kammitoes]

well, with Murdaugh, that trip to the Bahamas must have had a purpose.....with Girardi? He had been squirreling the cash away for so long it could be in accounts anywhere.....but I'm sure it's in a blind account somewhere

[@francisdisimile3659]

"...... indictments! my brain just buffered in real time..." hilarious

[@KatieBSewCrafty]

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[@lynnegackstetter2779]

At this point we can assume if a law firm only covers personal injury cases they are going to steal the money meant for the injured. Period. I wouldn't waste my time if I was injured because I could assume that a lawyer would steal the money I may be entitled to anyways.

[@TheseStreetsReports]

Shouldn’t the California bar be sued or have consequences. Like contempt? If Tom can do it, then others can as well

[@ambermauer8410]

Personally I absolutely hate lumē. I got the lavender, it smells worse than my BO. When I wore it I sweat profusely and nobody wanted to be anywhere near me because I smelled so bad.

[@splendidpursuits]

I block their ads because they are annoying and even I know they reformulated because some people have a reaction with an ingredient.

[@lucyjane3803]

I worked for a brand that had a (very expensive) best selling natural deodorant - the original one burned my skin, the second one made me smell like rotting beef carcass and the third one made my armpits swollen and itchy. I'll stick to my trusty £1 roll-on 😅

[@extendedplay8830]

I remember when I hired a lawyer to fight a case for me ( hit and run case ) I remember telling the lawyer I hired “ if you’re shady I’ll know , I trust no one I’m willing to fuk you up If you take my money - point blank period “ My lawyer totally understood Where I was coming from He won my case - I was rewarded 325k - I received my check shortly after & purchased my 1st home ( in LA ) Sometimes it’s best to tell Ppl ( not threatening) but tell ppl You don’t Fuk around!! In my experience It keeps everyone fair & above board !!! I would’ve told Tom “ if you don’t have my money I’m going to fuk you and your wife up asap “ If I go to jail I go to jail - period !!! Some ppl are willing to go to prison in order to prove their point !!!!!! I’m one of those !!!! What can I say I’m born and raised From Chicago- ppl from chicago Will go all the way to prison if you take our money - especially black ppl from the hood- play with our money if you want to !! Great video Love the channel! Respect ✊🏿

[@litrealred6840]

Thanks! More I hear more sick I feel! I can’t imagine what these people went thru! Another thing Tom was ambulance chaser , so that why Erika was on show to bring in more business! 🥰

[@cleverqutie9319]

We still need to know WHY Tom bought Chris Wray of the FBI a home???????? And when the CA Bar is going to be held accountable???

[@gerryshea3707]

Love your moral compass. Wish all lawyers had one.

[@Smart-Towel-RG-400]

I dunno how everyone at the California bar hasn't fired everyone for allowing this man to do this

[@yolandabyers3543]

FINALLY!!!!!

[@veronicabaranowski6976]

His first exwife must be glad no one is badgering her about what she ‘knew’ or his kids. Kids aren’t stupid. He probably said something revealing over family dinners.

[@jojersey5018]

How do you prosecute someone in a conservatorship? I'm glad he was indicted but how exactly do you actually prosecute someone who has already been deemed mentally disabled and unable to care for themselves? How do they then prove he can assist in his defense? That's the part I don't understand.

[@MsDLHughes]

How ironic that my Canadian shipment of All Dressed chips ordered thru Amazon arrived today when I'm listening her speak on this very thing! 😂

[@afishynado6812]

I think the real solution is a public government trustee to whom settlement payouts are made, for distribution - beit lawyer fees, or to the actual victims.

[@courtney.p.s.]

Wooooow. Just wow.

[@WyoRockstar13]

What happened to Bernie Madoff's widow? Did she end up paying the IRS or any of the victims? Just wondering what Erika's liabilities will be.

[@thegentlereader]

I'd like to know the answer to that as well

[@Goldie9899]

Me too!! Imo it is obvious she had knowledge to some extent, because of divorce timing and her behavior after admitting knowledge is just beyond deplorable!! She shouldn’t get a “pass” because she left him!!

[@janehale8500]

The Netflix doc series said she ended up having everything taken , and at one point was living out of the trunk of her car.

[@rebeccaglasgow1324]

Thanks Emily! How much money is enough money? Just blows my mind!

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

Even after the Alex case you are surprised that a lawyer would do that. Obviously it's more the norm.

[@dianelavoie6208]

It’s pretty convenient that he was put under conservatorship when everything was coming out. His lawyers will argue he’s unable to participate in his defense.

[@Metta_with_a_long_e]

I've been completely missing Emily. I cannot watch the Murdaugh trial. The thought of a parent doing that to their kid just hurts my heart so bad and I can't watch that.

[@pattyh2410]

Same here…

[@Metroid250]

Tom, Alex, and LaBarr are examples that will further harm the public trust in attorneys. Since these cases, I preferred to file any legal matters myself directly along with some legal education online. I'd rather make a mistake myself and lose 25% of my deserved settlement vs. my attorney lying to me, taking 40%+, and I'd have to fight to claw it back without guarantee

[@TheseStreetsReports]

Erkica started lying about Toms illness months and months ago. Shes a great actress. She has been covering for him since day 1

[@billyemartin2975]

These attys have to be stashing the money off shore somewhere.

[@lynnegackstetter2779]

Did he know Alex?😄😂🤣

[@shuddle82]

No one ever brings up that he was the atty involved with the case made famous by the Erin Brokovich movie. He was also an adviser on the film 🎥

[@JasmineFieldsESQ]

In some jurisdictions, the attorney gets to decide if it is going to take attorneys fees off of gross or net. I take mine off the net.

[@stefanwild326]

who were the responsible people at the bar that enabled him back then? what are their names?

[@MissPolitical2024]

Q: Will Girardi be examined by a court appointed person to confirm or refute Dementia and if so, will it be possible to figure out how long he has had it, (whether he was already affected by it and therefore he did not have capacity to begin with) or; did he do this to other clients first but it was his dementia which caused it to be known now? Sorry long comment, budding Psychologist 🙂

[@lilvanwarrior1775]

Here we gooooooo....

[@MeganSpruce90]

Oh my God, hearing all the details about every family who suffered at the hands of Tom Girardi et al., is absolutely mindblowing. They're all bad, but it was mentioned a family suffered being paralyzed from the neck down, including a child! How can that not tug at your heartstrings?! How did he knowingly screw that family over. I'm sure they justly deserved and flat out needed that money to help with all the difficulties set forth for the rest of their lives. And he just screwed them over? It literally blows my damn mind.. edit* I commented this early on, and realized later he may or may not have been able to mess that child's settlement up.. either way he's a disgusting human Also, "maybe he inspired that little 'ditty'." Idk why but I laughed so hard at that lol And I need to watch The Hustler and the Housewife , I didn't know it's on Hulu! Perhaps after court today I'll check it out

[@cookieinfinity4702]

Teacher: Pennies missing? You'll be kicked to the curb! Student: Counterpoint Tom Girardi.

[@catherinelynnfraser2001]

We all end up paying for the bad deeds of these bad guys.

[@intellectualiconoclasm3264]

Maybe he can be a cell-mate with Avenati.

[@filtersplz9319]

Been watching the Murtaugh case and he was fired and disbarred. He stole client money too though not on the Girardi level.

[@SatanSpawn801]

Is he able to stand trial??

[@maureenjanik1864]

Does Tom Girardi have a lawyer,who would represent him in regards to indictment charges, certainly not his divorce lawyer😱

[@kristiwilson3930]

He has public defenders now lol