Tom MacDonald- Mac Lethal Sucks (Mac Lethal Diss) (Reaction) Its over!! 😳

[@redstarwarrior85]

Tom’s first diss track was a bait. Also, Tom got over his addictions to gain success. Dave got into his additions because of his success. Completely different.

[@tamiarmstrong4618]

This comment deserved more love than it got.

[@trocoplaytv1254]

Wait what's different. Why is one an example of weakness and the other isnt? Money doesn't buy happiness and neither does success. You can be just as depressed gaining success as you can rock bottom. Happiness is relative to the standards you've been living in.

[@redstarwarrior85]

@@trocoplaytv1254 What are you talking about? They are completely opposite situations and no one mentioned happiness at all.

[@trocoplaytv1254]

@@redstarwarrior85 people spiral into addiction because of depression it's really not too complicated. Please explain the difference, you keep saying they're completely different but don't say how. In which way is one of them stupid/weak for succumbing to addiction while the other isn't? Please explain How does their environment when spiraling into addiction matter?

[@redstarwarrior85]

@@trocoplaytv1254 No one mentioned depression either. One gained success by beating addiction. The other got into addiction after gaining success. If you can’t comprehend how they are opposite situations, then I can’t help you.

[@edcwb3353]

My explanation about the drugs is Tom was into drugs and came out of it and built a career. MAC was starting to be famous and destroyed his career by falling into the Hollywood drug thing.

[@aprilslillarose7831]

Yes! This! 👆

[@jtramelli5464]

Exactly

[@sweetkissez64]

Say it louder for those in the back

[@lewisgriffin9684]

They both come out of it what are you talkin about Tom was in the drugs more heavy than mac and he surely didn't destroy his career cuz he has one of the best careers on KZbin just cuz he doesn't do traditional rap like Tom MacDonald don't mean he hasn't had a successful career has more subscribers bigger videos he raps about real issues he actually raps the songs that his fans write and send them to him cuz they can't rap I don't know why people can't just admit that he has a good career to you ain't got to always be one of the other they both are give it and their own way and we're talking straight up drug time was snorting oxy which is way worse then marijuana

[@Reallytallsocks]

@@lewisgriffin9684 this was by far one of the longest most incoherent sentences I've ever even attempted to read.

[@thelivingmiracle]

That single Benoit bar ended the whole diss right then and there

[@vegasviking86]

One the nastiest battle bars I've ever heard

[@ordinarybear7037]

Also pointing to conspiracies like voice of god project. Many found out to be true like we do not live on a sphere. The global delusion is like the 'matrix' once unplugged, a free mind is a dangerous tool these days. We are at the center of all of this...... as all knew in the past theologies ! Look into it & yourself.

[@kimberlyhaas1]

@@vegasviking86 facts

[@sinnirr]

Mac's social media was getting spammed with Hi Dave! Hi Dave! Hi Dave! after this I believe Mac Lethal was off Social Media for awhile

[@angee3005]

He was

[@JasonPeltier]

"Dave Sheldon's severed head will be the evidence" That's mac's real name :) And everywhere you see someone trashing Tom in the comments, you'll find someone saying "Hi Dave" :D

[@Maiya696]

Lol he should have just replied "DAVE'S NOT HERE!!" It was just a battle..why not just take it in good humor like Tom did. He had fun with it.

[@MarvRoberts]

NEVER APOLOGIZE FOR PAUSING! We've seen the video. We want to see YOU reacting and see you catch every single bar. Pause it, take it back and watch it. We are gonna love it!

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

You’d be surprised. People still bitch about my pausing. Imma just start doing reactions where I pause every second 😂😉🙏

[@kaitb07]

Agreed. I can watch the original if i want to just watch the video. He Actually breaks stuff down, not just looks surprised and whoops and claps like many other reactors.

[@dionysuskiss1]

We want the pauses, because we want your input. Otherwise, we would just watch the original content. Check out a reaction done by We Skeem. He's got the pause game down to an art form 😂

[@aprilslillarose7831]

Agreed! Pause away so you can catch the bars.

[@147salsa]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial check we skeem! Lol he adds post production pauses just to eff with those people lol Its annoying but hillarious qt the same time

[@kevinvest9693]

No one unbiased could think mac won. The Chris Benoit line was so hard I felt it

[@WornArsenic]

I was surprised to find out that there’s people out there who really believe Pancakes won but there’s a lot of delusional people out there.

[@allybandy3047]

That was too much fun. 😂😂 Thanks for literally making me cry with laughter. Made my day. Dave had to take a month vacation from twitter because everyone kept saying, "Hi Dave, Hi Dave, Hi Dave." Also thanks for hitting this all in one day.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Thank you for watching Ally!! That’s hilarious 😂

[@KelleyTalksAlot]

Lolol Ally I was one of those people 🤣😂🤣😅

[@allybandy3047]

@@KelleyTalksAlot ♥ #HOGfam

[@ItzMaceWindu]

As soon as Mac lethal reached and lied and said Tom dissed his daughter, then used that as an excuse to go at nova, it was over for him

[@nikiangell6199]

I still watch this reaction from you!! It's so awesome! Your eyes are so blue and beautiful!! I'll never stop watching!!

[@kingclint2382]

Mac got kicked outta rhymesayers, that's embarrassing enough 😂

[@Brandon-mx3zx]

this would be a perfect time to check out "I'm sorry". a beautiful apology video where he directly addresses Mac

[@khokharmohit]

😂😂😂❤️❤️❤️

[@Brandon-mx3zx]

@@khokharmohit 😉

[@pamelacarlin7236]

😂🤣😂 Yeah... a beautiful "apology" video 🤣😂🤣💚

[@Brandon-mx3zx]

@@pamelacarlin7236 😂🤫

[@scoffman30]

Yes Please do

[@antohimarius3404]

Tom held back soo much in this Battle. He got bars for days ...

[@leannemcrae8132]

Mac and Tom had overlapping fans. Mac, Crypt, and a few other KZbin rappers all got together to try to get dirt on Tom and help Mac write his track. Those fans shared with Tom what Mac was doing. That's what I was told anyway.

[@KelleyTalksAlot]

Damn, where are MY fckn manners 🥺🥺 LOVE your reactions!!! ALWAYS genuine and brutally honest!!! ❤️❤️❤️

[@brentwalton1308]

😂 You didn’t disappoint. 👏🏼 You are one of the few I have seen that caught the Chris Benoit bar.

[@bekaebrown]

💯

[@ainthafunnijohnpeer]

CLIFF!!!!!!!!!! I see you hustling so I am checking out your old vids! STAY UP you're solid! aLL love!

[@AzazelTheFallen]

Tom scared me a bit the first time I heard Mac Lethal Sucks I didn't know he was capable of such wanton slaughter and destruction.

[@JasonPeltier]

I read that he didn't like where he ended up and will probably not do more of that type of stuff.

[@Brandon-mx3zx]

I've been refreshing for 30 minutes 😂😂😂.. let's gooooooooo!

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

It took forever to upload lol

[@tayscales7038]

Right?! I done forgot I was suppose to be doing something 😂😂😂

[@trydyecry3978]

"Mac Lethal gave him all he got. Which wasn't much to be honest with you." LOL priceless. I give Mac credit for the fact he mustve done research after being told to. Taking a battle rapper 6days to respond and jumping on a bad parenting like as a diss to a child to excuse for low blows, he went all out and then said he wont respond. He must've known it was a bait track, being a battle rapper he would've sniffed it out. He gave it everything he had, and he had nothing.

[@dalehammers4425]

When you give everything you have to a weak ass attack, you sorta have no ammo left for the next round. Mac never stood a chance, even before this began. Tom knew WAY too much about Mac.

[@rapa6427]

Tom definitely won this battle that Mac Lethal started, in fact Mac Lethal didn't respond after this and apparently stayed off social media for several months.

[@madamred2061]

All he needed to beat David was the Benoit bar. End of subject. Also.... Tom's "history" with addiction wasn't common knowledge at the time of this diss battle. Tom became much more transparent, Nah, this was real. Tom was pissed. They have sense let it die. #HOG4LIFE

[@michaelbraum77]

There is a comedian named Dave Attell. So the line "now Dave that's a tell" is a dub.

[@sonjacoleman5703]

You can't beat someone up with their past if they just say 'yay I did that'. Takes the power away. Tom will be the first to tell you he was at rock bottom and F'ing mess.

[@foosmonkey]

Fast forward to 2023 and he’s written several songs about it.

[@randywissler9923]

Yeah, I was gonna say, did no one learn anything from 8 mile? 😂

[@Gulicktheemu]

Mac had to delete his socials for a hike. People kept posting “Hi Dave 👋🏽, hi Dave 👋🏽, hi Dave 👋🏽” #HOG The Army ✌🏽

[@coolsk8ter888]

"No Response" was released after this diss track, as a continuation, dissing all the haters. 🤘

[@patrickotto4373]

Mac got murdered on this track. Appreciate the honest views. Subbed big dawg. ✌️

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Appreciate it brother ✌️

[@bjsmith6187]

Mac didn’t just not respond. Shortly after he deleted all his social media for a few months.

[@lewisgriffin9684]

Actually he deleted his social media before the district ballot even started it had nothing to do with the district battle if you're going to learn your facts get it right

[@bjsmith6187]

@@lewisgriffin9684 nice try Mac. I know a burner account when I see one 😂😂

[@keekdkelly]

@@bjsmith6187 OMG!! 🤣🤣🤣

[@jonthomas3065]

But he did respond though

[@damoncopeland7112]

​@@jonthomas3065 he didnt responed to this one he just released a actual track trying to gain clout from this beef and it failed massively 😂

[@madamred2061]

I'm starting with this one. Gonna be honest, I'll watch Lethal Injection but you couldn't pay me to watch David Shelton's whack ass liefest.

[@tonyfilichia8879]

One of the very few reactors to even recognize that Chris Benoit bar. NICE..

[@Carmine3125377jr]

Who's back here watching this two years later because they needed a laugh besides me. I'll be watching it for another 10 im dead😂😂😂💀

[@PurpleWolf478]

The battle I never knew I needed!! It's my favorite beef ever!!!

[@HaveButOneLife]

I really enjoyed Tom's planning. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he starts off with a baited track, hears Dave's response, and then makes the _actual_ diss track with the same format (down to talking about the drug addiction, his age, being a house wife, etc.) and then after that Tom responds to the disses (wrestling/Benoit) and the rest of the diss is mainly responding with talking about Mac's career, his wife, and his speed which he parodies. He then ends it with the same outro. So basically Tom's a genius.

[@randallbatson]

So in all 3 tracks about the texts and the ghostwriting through reactions from Crypt, and reactions from a no name troll rapper named MC Nemesis, from deductive reasoning you find out Crypt was the puppeteer behind Mac Lethal as the marionette hence the bar in No Response 'I am like iron man, you are like Tony Stark, you're a human, I'm equipped with guns, and poison darts'. Basically Tom was saying that Crypt won't put the avatar on, and suit up, that Crypt was only the engineer. In a sense this wasn't a battle between Tom and Mac Lethal, this was a battle between Tom and Crypt. After Crypt's track 'Rapping from my closet' the beef was eventually squashed between Tom and Crypt, and now they talk, don't know the real outcome of Tom and Lethal, but it is what it is. I ponder if it hurt Crypt and Lethal's friendship, but that was Crypt's design. There's my girl paragraph.

[@424stormygirl]

Yep No Response had Crypt written all over it, Tom wasn't fooled by them at all.

[@jeddodon]

I woke up for this one lol 😂 this was one of the first murders committed on these KZbin streets. Good shit bud the cris Benoit bar was cold AF no joke

[@Emilio-mt3xk]

I thought I've been subscribe to u said where my manners bro.Im now a sub love ur reaction 💯💯.

[@becks7394]

Tom explained in a recent interview that he isn't "that kind of sober" - he just stopped being self destructive but has the willpower to have champagne at a celebration, etc.

[@DarthZ01]

tom got over his addiction and can have a drink or two without falling off, while dave is still a slave to his and has to work hard to avoid it or he'll collapse all over again.

[@heatherll6810]

never get sick of watching reactions to this. i love how tom went in for the total kill shot. HOG4EVER 🤘❤️🤘

[@suebrown324]

This was my all time tom macdonald fav reaction of yours. You laughing made me laugh.

[@mentalfog2786]

Telling Tom to be careful. Thats hilarious. #HOG

[@nurselorie2271]

Tom also autographed every copy and mails them out his self

[@JasonPeltier]

tomorrow is the last day he's signing his latest 2 albums

[@LisaBucalo]

Here for it!! #hangovergang 💯 RIP Lethal!!

[@himonwillard5088]

I love how Tom even says, I feel horrible for doing you like this, love him or hate him, you have to respect him. HOG4life.

[@nickpoly48]

Loved your reaction, you definitely caught more than most reactors I have seen. I noticed a couple lines in the double time nobody mentioned was when he said David Sheldon's severed head will be the evidence, which if im not mistaken that is mac lethal birth name. Than at the end when he says if your feeling kind of foggy and you jump you will get dissected. I think he is referring to Mac like i killed you in this one but if u make another diss track than ill direct you in the next one

[@cathykeller712]

I can't wait to watch this I seen it's 25 mins long haha time for some snacky snacks 😍😍😍😍

[@66ft]

On the drug addiction lines he's implying Mac is old and still an addict and lowkey using drugs. Where as Tom is saying he's better than him because he stopped.

[@chunlink4133]

yes, i was getting so frustrated that he wasnt getting it.

[@FuriousAngel1]

I really feel like Tom tried to hold back on the personal stuff at least in the first song. He talked about a few well known things about Mac and made a lot of light hearted insults just showing off his writing. He went harder in the second one but still kept it to Mac. Any mentions of Mac's girl or kids is only to diss Mac. Mac really tried to drag Nova down personally. What did Tom say? You have a daughter at home? That is somehow taking a shot at her.

[@Gutslinger]

How do you get that out of these disses, when Tom is talking about the possibility of him relapsing?

[@smudent2010]

After like the 45 second mark of the song all I could think of is the Simpson's scene where they're screaming to stop the beating because he's already dead

[@JasonPeltier]

the visual ad libs where Tom is throwing punches, miming firing a shotgun at the ground... basically beating a dead horse over and over and over, lol

[@kathiyow6801]

#hog loved your reaction love tom

[@aprelleneal7517]

I love your reactions. They're so funny! You look so floored. Man, as we say in DC, Tom carried the SHIT out of that dude.

[@FuriousAngel1]

Another reactor who is a rapper said that Tom and Mac ended up meeting and squashing the beef. I really enjoyed your reactions. I guess it isn't that important in the scope of things with rap battles but both disses Tom did were actual artistic entertaining songs and not just disses to a beat. Also Tom put out Mac Lethal Sucks I believe in less than 2 days after Mac lethal's diss complete with a pretty damn good video. Tom's mind is just that fast and him and Nova are that talented.

[@JasonPeltier]

that's where the part about "my girl waited a week and then went back to minecrafting" came from

[@alexvlaxos6620]

How they squashed it though?"lethal" made a whole clickbait song "mac lethal sucks 2" just for the views and acting like all high and mighty and "enjoying his wins" like he ended toms career or something. And it seems that Toms words on how he is just a youtuber with no career(true)cut a little deep and promted him on making a song

[@redcyco213]

That was awesome lol Tom is so awesome

[@leannemcrae8132]

Last comment I promise! Lol Yes Tom has struggled with alcohol and drugs but he lays it all out to bare so it can't be used against him. Like I said, Tom's smart and took a note from Em and 8 Mile's himself a lot.

[@amyproud]

I love the pausing because you want to hear it! ♥️♥️♥️ you’re a badass reactor and call it how you see it! #hog

[@hero_for_a_day3595]

I think this is my favourite reaction to this song I've ever seen! Your reaction after each bar just makes me laugh. Hi Dave, Hi Dave, Hi Dave!

[@shadowpoet4398]

Yeah, what Erin Robert's said, you do your thing bro. BTW I love your lipstick. It works with your complexion

[@shannonbeltrami1487]

Diving into the Cliff Beats Tom reactions and loving it. You and Flawdzilla are my two new favorites. Oh, pause away. We are here for your reaction! 😎

[@JasonPeltier]

Flawd and Meaux are awesome!

[@edcwb3353]

I’m here for this for sure!!!

[@stacyj8ball]

I stuck it out. Won't be late for work. Great reaction. Heading out.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Oh no!! Sorry!!

[@Cheng-jq6fc]

the Chris Benoit reference against Mac Lethal..is 🔥🔥 that $@#! is dreary AF 😨!!!!

[@alexrodriquez6574]

I believe that Tom purposely didn't go all in on the first diss track, but baited him. IMO. HOG!

[@judgegriff8041]

"Somebody help with my monetized videos, Dave that's a tell" MacLethal was all "I'm a millionaire, lets compare how rich we are at the bank" in his diss track. He was implying he is richer than Tom but if he is so rich, why would he feel the need to complain about loss of monetization to youtube unless he needs the money?. It really does "tell" how rich MacLethal is.

[@JasonPeltier]

and not just complaining, but tweeting to KZbin about it instead of emailing or talking on the phone

[@anonsmokes5802]

A unbiased response after all 3 of the reactions I really was just waiting for this one lol

[@lynzo13]

I’m 10 minutes in and this is already my shiiittt I love it. 😂 #HOG

[@chevy_ok6719]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥#hangovergang

[@Nuetral768]

The reason No Response felt so good is because that was his response to Mac Lethal not responding... You can literally see Tom's game improving rapidly with every song.

[@johndeeregreen4592]

No, these independent artists are killing it with streaming sales over the past couple years. For example, Upchurch's net worth is understated by Google; just one of his four houses and his cars are worth more than Google says his net worth is.

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Oh for sure. They can’t track all assets and streams of revenue especially through streaming platforms

[@johndeeregreen4592]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial, my estimate from Upchurch's streaming and album sales is somewhere near $30-million. The kid has done things that are insane over the past 5 years. Tom is a little behind that but not by much.

[@SickGirlRocks]

I really appreciate your insights

[@daveg-Vancouver_Island]

Apparently Tom will let reactors use his videos without the copyright problems, just gotta msg him.,

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

I’ve talked to Tom personally. It’s a work in progress 👍🙏

[@danielle-yd5dp]

Tom didnt have anyone write his music... mac lethal whole diss was a bunch of he said she said bs, that were lies he did no research on tom... tom did Mad research on Dave lol

[@yvonneyvette2631]

It’s been awhile but this is my favorite response to Mac Lethal SUUUUUCKS. Thank you.

[@meagantribby6757]

Oh my gosh your reaction is awesome!!! Loved it

[@kingclint2382]

I havent watched the video but i already know whats gonna happen lol

[@kimtucker3540]

To be honest, I've never heard of Mac Lethal, and I'm 57. Into All music. TOM...I love you brother!! #HOG! Love you Nova!!!

[@krisztianmolnar6296]

Dont say sorry! We are here for u man because you are doing it well❤️👍🏼

[@scottsmithlock5245]

Damn bro, you were prob the best non biased, intellectual break down of this battle. props man.

[@christopherkimber7679]

14:00 “and he’s able to give you this much trouble, that say something.” Dude, did you watch the same battle? He didn’t give Tom any trouble at all. Dude bodied him, dismembered him and fed him to the fishes. No trouble at all. 😂

[@maxquinones8321]

Good Job 👍 H.O.G. Forever.

[@ianjwatson1874]

Yo Cliff, keep doin' what you doin'. You got the skills to React WELL, and enough subs with fresh trax to react to. None of this "I better react to everything the Other Reactors are" bs. Growing buddy. Slow but strong.

[@danielnelson3136]

First off, great video series of this beef, of most reactors yours is mostly neutral and to the punch bars, rap flow and music beats, and keeping it about the bars and music and not about the artists themselves. Don't worry about pausing so much, a few YT channels that do similar breakdowns already have pause counts and make a joke about it. Maybe do pause counters too?

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

So , I did this at the beginning of my channel. I wasn’t even familiar with KZbin yet. But, I’d have to revisit it to really understand it. I didn’t know who either artists were. Now I’m friends with Tom so I’d be a bit more bias 😂

[@GattisonPrime]

A reactor that doesn't pause a lot and discuss everything they think is interesting isn't worth watching. Keep doing what you do, and I'll keep enjoying it bro.

[@jodough5478]

You did such a good job breaking this down! You explained things I didn’t get.

[@PismoDetailing]

Damn!!!!! Tom MURDERED that lil dude. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@WilliamNorris-sb3qw]

I needed you and Tom tonight, I found out I lost 2 soldiers tonight and listen to you react and Tom's music helped alot thanks

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

I’m sorry for your loss my friend. I’m always here if you need me 👊

[@WilliamNorris-sb3qw]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial thanks that actually means alot.

[@tferg9272]

Hands down, the best reaction I’ve seen to this song 👊

[@danfraz1674]

"Dave, thats a tell" aka thats a joke... Dave Attell, great comedian, great at telling jokes. Is is just me that noticed that or am I making it up?! Still waiting for someone to say something, unless I came up with that connection on my own...

[@corybowen4097]

awesome job brother..becoming one of my favorite reactors

[@chrisashley2736]

This got more and more savage as it went on lmao, epic reaction as well thanks for doing your thing man. Can you do a reaction to any of the snak the ripper vs madchild tracks, or any snak the ripper tunes actually. peaceeeee :) :)

[@EODSnowboarder]

Bro, the minecrafting bar is probably reference to Nova working on producing other music videos. Basically they stopped what they were doing to rebut Mac, but when he took too long, they gave up to go back to what they were doing before all of this started. Haha A much bigger insult than most might think.

[@jamesjolley1649]

POV: Waiting for the Chris Benoit line reaction 🍿

[@nikiangell6199]

By the way, thank you🙂💜

[@scottfontenot6193]

Bro was praying to g the lord the whole video. “Oooohhhh Mmmyyyy ggggooodddd” 😂😂😂

[@OrtegaX13]

GOD MODE

[@teresahoffman6041]

Lol love how you asking 'are you ready to finish this?' lmao it's been over. This is just good memories

[@CliffBeatsOfficial]

Lol it was new for me! ❤️

[@teresahoffman6041]

@@CliffBeatsOfficial I also wish I could see this battle for the first time again😂👍 well done

[@leannemcrae8132]

I. CAN'T. WAIT. TO. WATCH. THIS!!!!!

[@poetfrost]

Now you have to re-listen to “no response” that track, in part, addressed the fact that Mac didn’t respond. That doesn’t mean that Mac didn’t say shit on the sly which Tom felt the need to bury him for.

[@nurselorie2271]

Congrats on all your subscribers!

[@MasterTech396]

Finally someone who caught the Chris Benoit line.

[@roxiedavi7875]

Wow that was a long lunch... But the ride was worth it.... Way to go.

[@denisebutcher7717]

Love your reaction 😎

[@F1rstWorldNomaD]

I know very little about Mac but from what I've read Tom ain't sweatin using the drugs addict puns cuz Tom own his passed, he doesn't shy away from it, he wears it like armor while Mac played the blame game, making excuses about how it wasn't his fault he ended up there etc etc. Also heard Mac have had several relapses while Tom hasn't. This is second hand information, I havnt read this from some official source but I've seen countless comments from countless people saying the same thing, add that to the fact that Tom is not an idiot, if this wasn't true I doubt he would've hit it so hard (or at all). I feel like this too was a bait to get Mac to comment on it and Tom had a whole fakking verse turning that against Mac. But Mac didn't bite hence Tom never used that counter. It's just speculation but knowing how Tom usually do things, leaving himself open to attacks about being hypocritical is *really* out of character. I've heard maybe 95% if all his stuff and this is the only time I can think of.

[@mariahlove6461]

You’re the first person I’ve heard react to this and pick up on the Chris comment lol ❤

[@fettel1988]

Mac took the bait and ate that Fatality. This diss track is Mortal Kombat in a song.