Tom Mesereau's First Extensive Interview After "Leaving Neverland" Airs on HBO

This is Part 1 of Mediaite Senior Columnist John Ziegler's exclusive, and purposely unedited, interview with Michael Jackson's criminal defense attorney Tom Mesereau. This is the first extensive interview that Mesereau has done since the movie "Leaving Neverland," in which Wade Robson and James Safechuck accuse Jackson of horrendous sexual abuse about 25-30 years ago, aired on HBO. Mesereau goes into great detail about why he strongly believes that these accusers are not to be believed. The full 45-minute interview can be heard starting April 27,2019 via Ziegler's podcast, which can be found at www.FreeSpeechBroadcasting.com

[@THATVEGANLAWYER]

I can hear the frankness in his voice. I can feel his compassion and despair. I can see the truth in his eyes. Mesereau is a fine man and an exceptional lawyer.

[@sonia1082]

THAT VEGAN LAWYER Very well said!

[@MrGoodman174]

That's the King of Lawyers to you. This man is also legend.

[@sincerely_6362]

exactly. Unapologetically truthful.

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

During the 2005 trial, Thomas Mesereau was accused of outrageous and unethical conduct. Sounds like your saint isn't quite so honest, after all.

[@David.lovesU]

Casey Anthony also beat the Justice system as did OJ and John gotti Michael Jackson's no different

[@DarrenMoynagh]

Mesereau is the man. I believe his every word. The critics say MJ escaped in 2005 because he had the best defence attorney. The reality is he was vindicated because D.A Sneddon was a crook, the families were opportunists, the timeline was flawed and Mesereau exposed all the holes in a way few others could. I remember the 2005 trial (31st January to 13th June) vividly, the allegations were made public 14 months prior on 18th November 2003 and the initial charges were filed 18th December 2003 before new charges under a new timeline (the first was proven false) were issued on 30th April 2004. The media savaged Michael Jackson in the trial and the only media I recall believing his innocence was Geraldo Rivera of FOX News. But an impartial jury still found the Pop King innocent. We salute you Tom Mesereau. Thank you.

[@antonmk1244]

Since then, i just never believed in media and had any care about what they say. They recently completely fooled people about covid then now about russian so called devil.

[@michaelfoxx547]

Facts❤️

[@leenyathi955]

I loved it when he said "Remember the media is a business." Thanks for standing by MJ then n now.🙏🙏

[@lynnorabennett8509]

Let the media put Oprah on trial

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

Thomas Mesereau used the media to help influence public opinion during Jackson's 2005 trial. So once again, he is being disingenuous. Have you asked Thomas Mesereau why he asked the court to exclude evidence of Jackson's paedophilia, such as the picture of Jonathan Spence naked, and books written by convicted child sexual molesters?

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

@@lynnorabennett8509 For what? Do you understand anything about the law at all?

[@fuzzyflick9905]

EXACTLY

[@lynnpear20]

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 lmfaoo it’s trolls like you folks with common sense gotta laugh at

[@diogo1627]

Tom mesereau is the definition of an honorable man, no matter how many years pass he still defends MJ against these absurd allegations. Thank you Mr mesereau and Mr ziegler for defending the truth

[@annavonn6464]

Diogo The God we’ll I respect both men highly, but Tom can’t say anything bad about Mike, he got him free of terrible allegations, I mean No matter what he would always defendMJ! The reason I think we should pay attention to Tom ad really believe him here is very simple, he defends Michael every time when he really doesn’t have to, he could just stay away, he doesn’t need money nor fame, u mean everyone knows who Tom is , it’s just outstanding that he has no fear to ruin his reputation by defending j, he is very brave and again he doesn’t have to do this at all, as a after of fact lawyers after the case is finished tendtk stay away n say nothing if smth else or any accusations against him former clients occur! It’s very unusual for a such a famous person and lawyer as Tom M to keep defending Jackson, if anything he is really risking his reputation here, that’s why I believe him. He does it I feel like on personal level, u can tell He REALLY BELIEVES MJ was innocent! Thanks to both so much, it’s nice to see more more ppl realizing they have been brainwashed from every single corner for months, and now finally they can see how yeah there are ppl that will lie about stuff like that like no business, and WADE AND lil Jimmycrackhead the side kick are just sick twisted liars with horrible Dan the egghead.. I agree tho with u partially!

[@Judipops13]

@@annavonn6464 If he stated he believes Wade and James, then he would be admitting he had a lying Lead-On witness who helped win the 2005 case. This would make the 2005 aquittal an unsafe verdict. Mesereau has stated that MJ would have gone down if Wade had testified against MJ in 2005. I doubt he also wants to add a pedophile to his list of defendants after defending rapist Bill Cosby. Mesereau has plenty of reasons to keep defending MJ - including his reputation.

[@diogo1627]

@@Judipops13 you again lmaooo just gtfo, your life must be trash fr lmaoo 😂😂😂😂

[@diogo1627]

@@Judipops13 not really lmao i'm a mj fan so normally i'm here, you're a hater and youre here hating lmao 😂😂😂😂😂 still looking for the reason mj said harrison funk couldnt take the pic uh ? 😂😂😂😂

[@diogo1627]

@MJ NOT INNOCENT you mj haters are the dumbest people on earth fr lmao their claims were already debunked and you still insist on the same thing lmao 💀💀💀

[@88Ashleiigh88]

This man is a machine.. nothing but facts. He has no obligation whatsoever to still defend Michael, but he still does. If i ever meet Mr mesereau i will give him the biggest hug ever.

[@ladynikkie]

I believe he's still talks with the Jackson family to this day

[@tessmargauxhelen3035]

He know it so well how innocent Michael is and was and therefore he will not be only quiet when liars trying destroy the reputation of the dead innocent man.

[@damejazesoul]

Yes this! Infact I would give him more than a hug. lol Those that get, get it!

[@filsdejeannoir1776]

Me too!!

[@goddess6815]

@@damejazesoul “I’ll give you more than a hug” -MJ 😂

[@yingyang2838]

What I noticed about Tom Mesereau is that he never talks in absolutes about situations he was not directly involved in. If he does not confidently know the answer to a question he will always say “to my knowledge” or “I can only speak on my experience” which really speaks to the mans credibility. I have so much respect for him.

[@lindseyp1664]

something Robson and Fakefuck didn’t do. They spoke in definitives. More proof that they are lying

[@meatymatmart]

Seriously, it's so refreshing to hear someone take the time to clarify what they do and don't know when giving an interview like this. Rational as can be.

[@lisabaughn]

He's one of the very few people on Earth that can speak with integrity and fairness when it comes to Michael Jackson. Everybody else just loses their minds and acts crazy lol!

[@TheSkyatollah]

To be fair, that's the sign of a good lawyer. He has to be very particular and very careful with the language he uses.

[@kimberlyhowling5518]

@yeee haaw.. Yes! It's very rare finding or hearing people like this especially a lawyers.

[@culkingsed]

Tom Mesereau is the Michael Jackson of Lawyers.

[@mayame1079]

Lol..nice way of thinking

[@culkingsed]

@@mayame1079 He's got the intelligence, the work ethic, the moral compass, and even the long hair like Michael. The two of them are unmatched in their fields of work.

[@lisaba7206]

Tsedek Ogun I like it 👏 👏 👏

[@sashavjs]

nice!

[@ayinkemartins1423]

Just what I was thinking. He is a Superstar. He has integrity.

[@Bestme78]

What amazed me is how Tom Mesereau goes from interview to interview tirelessly defending MJ when there is clearly nothing in it for him.

[@armandvasquez2704]

@@rachelcatleyquinn9520 but michael jackson wasn't a pedophile. robson and safecuck are slimey grifters

[@ZaheerAbbasKhan]

Cos hes a great guy

[@Jose_Sanchi]

@@rachelcatleyquinn9520 damn. You have Alot of issues putting dirt on an innocent man. Sounds like a you problem. And jealousy

[@sssgaming612]

@@rachelcatleyquinn9520 woman with no brain, he doesn't get any money for this

[@rachelcatleyquinn9520]

@@sssgaming612 That's bullshit & you know it

[@massmanpro]

People refuse to watch 30min of facts to believe 4 hours of fiction. How sad. #MichaelJacksonInnocent

[@roxieturner4638]

True and sadly people don't want to hear the truth!

[@argoGR]

@@roxieturner4638 they don't like that someone is so much successful than them.... something must be wrong, so they can say "i am a better person, because i am not a child molestor"...

[@opaljk4835]

How do you know what the facts are? I mean, none of us were there, including this guy

[@whysoserious6685]

@@opaljk4835 we know Wade under oath as a child and grown man said mj didn't do anything and also the other guy lied about the train station molestation that allegedly happen all the time. It was built when he said those acts took place and he also lied about the defense wanting him there. If we start the precident of "you weren't there" then using ur logic nothing in the world happened unless you were there or it's on video. Hell today people deny what they see with their own eyes. That's why we have courts because you weren't there and the court's spoke.... Innocent ironically with Wade defending Michael. I'll be the first to admit to sleep with children even if it's inncoent it's inappropriate and I'm a huge fan but mj was naive when it came to the outside world. Then to wait ten years after his death? None of this seems fishy to you?

[@meylinhernandez461]

Tbh I couldnt sit through one hour of the doc. I legit fell asleep

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

Tom Mesereau is the most intelligent, well spoken attorney I have ever heard. He is someone who is have the greatest respect for. Thank you for defending Michael Jackson, for believing in him and winning his case. You are the most intelligent, caring, compassionate lawyer I have seen. Thank you for all you did to defend that great man Michael Jackson. God bless you.

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

I have the highest respect for him.

[@menema1151]

Pat Essiaw-Quayson: 6 month ago: Also my honest opinion. Thank you so much for this. Also I admire Tom Mesereau.

[@travelfoodielove]

Pat Essiaw-Quayson ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@MaryMi]

Tom Mesereau is a hero. We will always cherish this incredible man. And a huge thanks to you Mr Ziegler. You've been such a breathe of fresh air. We are so grateful for everything you are doing.❤❤❤

[@hammycats6919]

I agree, thanks Mr Ziegler, you are doing great getting these awesome people to come on your platform. 👍

[@AmeliaFDG]

@@Judipops13 Please retreat back under your rock. 🙄

[@michael9000]

@@Judipops13 You must be a colt member of our sick twisted sex fixated society. Bed does not have only one meaning to it, this being only to have sex on. A pedo does not make it known to the world that he loves children, or that he has children stay over, in fear of being caught. MJ wasn't doing anything wrong. His own words from a 1995 interview. If you are talking about sex, go down the road and get it. I am not even interested in that. I know it is so hard for our sex driven sex fixated brainwashed society to understand this, but there are people in this world, that do not want sex, or have the desire to have sex with anyone. LMP said; yes, I will let my kids stay with Michael. I know who he is and what he is. You people need to listen more closely than to be so quick to pass judgment on other people.

[@SS-ft8gx]

ItsMary Mi He is one of the only trustworthy people

[@Louise-sb7vi]

@MJ NOT INNOCENT omg are you actually being serious right now. i havnt even read all your comment coz i know its full of fucktardary untruthful ballshit. only saw a few lines. do your research man.

[@SSJSonikku]

I'm very happy that someone like Tom Mesereau, who was Michael Jackson's defense attorney, goes out of his way to still defend Michael Jackson. There really needs to be more people like him that speaks only on the truth. Bless his heart!

[@leah6849]

Forever grateful to this man for doing what he did and never wavering in his fight for justice for MJ. And also still speaking out today in light of this new attack on his legacy. Thank you also, John for helping bring the truth to light and not allowing the media to continue to get away with yet another witch hunt. Big love from London.

[@alicias2231]

Amen!!!

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

Thank you Leah for that beautiful comment. I couldn't have said it better. I love this lawyer. He truly believed in MJ and still does, always will.

[@georgethompson3763]

I really appreciate Tom Mesereau taking his personal time to defend MJ. He could have just issued a statement but instead he has given multiple interviews. And he is very precise in the way he speaks. He's a very good ally.

[@SS-ft8gx]

Thomas Favre Great man! Willing to go to bat for people

[@Louise-sb7vi]

yes he is indeed. a very good one at that. He has a good soul. Same as John Ziegler. x

[@booty121212]

Of course Michael paid him alot of money to do exactly that

[@SS-ft8gx]

bingbangboozygetinthejacuzzi actually he is speaking pro bono and he took a great risk taking on the MJ case. He deserves all the money in the world. And your point is???

[@georgethompson3763]

@@booty121212 You sound like you didn't really read my message. Mesereau is not being paid right now to do these interviews.

[@yashar-el]

Truth. The FBI should investigate Wade Robson.

[@menema1151]

Tom Mesereau should make a cross examination with Robson and Safechuck. There are already some liars.

[@eileenmaririce3827]

An FBI investigation would be a waste of all resources simply bc WR did a phenomenal job of discrediting himself with every word he spewed out with his forked tongue IN ON! I was beyond dumbfounded when ANYONE ON EARTH actually bought into 4(?) HOURS OF HEARSAY, LIES & IMPOSSIBLE FOLK TALES from which skeptics, the Jacksons & MJs very dedicated "fans" pulled out 60+ lies & impossible claims, such as Michael NOT even being in the U.S. on dates that they pulled out of thin air (& it their claims go downhill much further than THAT)! Major retail chains & music stores/sites pulled ALL MJ PRODUCTS & MUSIC OFF SHELVES, the MEDIA is drooling & batshit crazy for months! Fellow musicians (who have never & will never be in the same galaxy in terms of MJs multiple talents, brilliance, adored by millions, generosity, dedication OR WEALTH,) turned on MJ in flash & WILL regret their ignorance fairly soon.... WR & JS were both facing or in dire straights since before they filed lawsuits. They are both pretty much ready to slice their throats by now. The bottom line: they proved to be financially desperate, liars, scammers & STUPID NOBODIES that haven't had a single attempt to file suit accepted. They don't need to be investigated bc they are OPEN BOOK CON-FAILURES! 😉✌🏼😉

[@louiselee8369]

well said fbi should do that two that creep wade

[@louiselee8369]

and that creep safe chuck

[@pointsbeingmade7996]

Thats a good point. I doubt they Will though.

[@bibiaaf5c]

Tom Mesereau is the embodiment of "Facts don't care about your feelings"

[@williamwagener]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2aqq6uwq66ejLs MJ BUS

[@andreasleonlandgren3092]

Total class guy.

[@opaljk4835]

Yeah, but if you believe his story, then you implicitly have to believe the story of the people in the doc. This guy is not talking about facts vs feelings. This guy is a lawyer. They very rarely deal in facts. Especially defense lawyers. And his argument is bad anyway, because he’s saying that the molestation couldn’t have happened based on the testimony of the people at that time. So if your choice is to believe him, then you believe the words of the abused kids, right? So now your telling me that you only believe them then, and not now? Your opinion is based on testimony from the same people. It just seems really flimsy as an argument

[@wioi]

@@opaljk4835 there is literally prove that wade and James lied hundreds of times how much more prove do you need??? www.damienshields.com/leaving-neverland-exposed-the-devil-is-in-the-detail/

[@bibiaaf5c]

@@opaljk4835 I don't "have to believe" the people in the doc when their own words contradict the facts. This case isn't based on testimony alone, it involves provable lies and multiple contradictions that are very well exposed by now.

[@sarahdavies3690]

So good to hear Tom speaking out now. Such an intelligent guy, he speaks absolute sense.

[@SS-ft8gx]

Sarah Davies Yes he makes total sense!

[@75marklee]

he's a great lawyer and an outstanding person

[@InvincibleMimi]

Tom Mesereau is a true representation and embodiment of professional and righteous lawyer. If only the worldwide justice system had more people like him!

[@mrngkn9683]

Tom Mesereau looks absolutely disgusted by Robson's and Safechuck's allegations, absolutely disgusted at their greed

[@makingmoneywithmj7752]

This guy represented Bill Cosby in 2017, are the 60 accusers all liars too?

[@wioi]

@@makingmoneywithmj7752 no they are not. Now tell me why aren't there other MJ accusers coming forward now? Not only no one is coming forward but also other boys came forward to MJ defense. Here is every lie proven /debunked. www.damienshields.com/leaving-neverland-exposed-the-devil-is-in-the-detail/

[@MrGoodman174]

He should, He is the King of Lawyers afterall. He can analyse any BS from a mile.

[@YBM2007]

@@makingmoneywithmj7752 Sometimes lawyers defend actual innocent people, Tom is a good guy

[@thefairhairedboywiththered2951]

Will -A false comparison, Lawyers will have to defend guilty people as well as the innocent. The strength of his opinion regarding Michael Jackson’s innocence, long after Jackson has died shows that he believes him to be innocent.

[@janena1976]

Tom is a hero in my opinion. The sound of reason in a insane world.

[@SS-ft8gx]

janena1976 He is a hero!!!! MJ deserves no less and needs him!

[@kittygirlc4120]

Janena, I couldn't have written a better statement--perfectly stated! Thank you!

[@nanraghav8602]

@@catelaurent6965 Dude you've already been dealt with in other comments! You've already been busted! So stop spamming others! And if possible reply to our rebuttal, then move forward!

[@benajminpadilla6360]

Agreed.

[@lee8956]

how the fuck is he a hero i don't see this man in the army

[@SasukeUchiha-pp6qp]

respect for this lawyer No matter how many years pass, he still defends MJ. May god bless you Thank you for being michal’s voice ! Love to watch this ! Love ! Love !

[@RK-fi7ek]

Because he knew mr. Michael.

[@user-jk3ho7uo1s]

@@RK-fi7ek he didn’t know MJ prior to defending him

[@handheldcats14crites32]

i think better than most

[@kikka7391]

YES! I appreciate Mr Mesereau , great lawyer and great person , coherent and clear, standing always on Michael side even after years. RESPECT! Miserable people like T Skeddon, M. Beshir, the greedy accusers, cone and go in this poor world, you Michael will shine forever high in the sky as a pure star .

[@mr.brenman2132]

@@kikka7391 I really hope you all apply your knowledge of this case to other cases of people being falsely defamed by multiple opportunists.

[@Delfina-Zafira]

Tom Mesereau is a real HERO! Respect to this gentleman who is professional and from the first time i heard him talk (in 2005) I felt he was a very honest and professional human being, someone I would trust my life with.

[@SS-ft8gx]

Delfina Zafira Yes!

[@stevencoardvenice]

Delfina Zafira Lol I'm a lawyer myself and get that vibe from him too. If I was innocent, I would definitely want him

[@stevencoardvenice]

Cate Laurent Your facts are not accurate. The ranch had a huge library. In the library were some art books that you mentioned. All the kids on the ranch were able to do mischief and run around playing with stuff, just like kids in a toy store or a Barnes and Noble books store. While Jackson was out of town, the arvizo boys were witnessed on one occasion watching porn on cable TV just like all young teenage boys would do. Jackson wasn't even in California. The arvizo boys were living at neverland like a home. And Jackson had one playboy magazine for himself in some locked drawer or something. Big deal. So does my dad. Who knows what the sheriff would find if they went through all your little drawers and containers, cate. And your medicine cabinet, and all your little secret compartments. This neverland property was like a giant hotel resort, and all they found was one playboy. The guy was innocent

[@menema1151]

@@catelaurent6965 You remember me very hard at the procecuter Sneddon. He would hear only lies. You could be a daugther of this owful man, called "Mad Dog" a rassist. MJ never abused a child, if its said "Not guilty or Innocent". He is und was always innocent. MJ had had more decency and conscience as a lot of other bad persons, for instance Tom Sneddon.

[@menema1151]

Tom Mesereau is also for me a hero. After trial J. Arvizo in 2005 T.M. gave the statement *This accusation was a mockery of justice and one of the most vicious attaks to an innocent human in legal history* He is a real honest lawyer and person.

[@bossmanz1359]

Why don’t HBO and channel 4 air this interview 🤔 Oprah should also watch this with her close friends on her private yacht

[@sarahdavies3690]

Great point, media unfortunately are so one sided, and feeding the public lies.

[@annlanders978]

Trust me they won't.

[@SS-ft8gx]

Bossmanz 1 Amen!

[@FrenchCocoa369]

Orca Greedfree wasn’t on her yacht. It belonged to her good friend David Geffen. Who is the man that MJ said was responsible for sinking his career. MJ Reffered to him as Hollywood’s secret gay mafia. But she won’t even bother to watch this interview because she’s probably to busy hanging out with her accused rapist friend Harvey.

[@FrenchCocoa369]

DIAY FATOUMATA check your facts please. Ron Newton never named Oprah as the person or people who tried to pay him off. I understand that your passionate about this as most of us are, but be careful not to spread lies or rather false accusations. MJ would not want that ✌🏽

[@shahdmohamed8797]

"I was there to win .. and I was there to win for an innocent man" God i love that man Thank you for being honest and loyal 💖

[@carolynwilliams6738]

Not guilty 14 times, let's remember that please. 14 times.

[@shanecollier4906]

💯

[@didiaskakan3403]

👏👏👏👍

[@mackeyjaylozada2453]

Carolyn Williams wait what ????

[@811ceceq]

14 times innocent consistently'! Damn right Carolyn... AND MJ took all the hate he could bare They are still trying to suck his dead bones dry! If we had treated MJ better when he was here... He would still be Here.., musicmichaelandme.blogspot.com

[@Born2neverdie]

Say it louder for the haters in the back ! Lol and I tough there were 10 charges he had been acquitted of.

[@ayinkemartins1423]

What a Giant man. Thank you for telling the Truth, Tom Mesereau. Thank you, John Zeigler.

[@galinouprod2692]

👍🧟‍♂️🌼❤️👑

[@tamarajay7676]

This guy is just telling the same story over and over again, since 2005. Even before wade and james started this case against MJ in 2019. This is revealing about someone who is telling the truth. He can't be waivered or swayed and its nice to see because people are flip floping on their stories now. All the guys telling the truth now under pressure of being bought are awesome!

[@mjfan3709]

Well said,. Tom hasn't been paid by the Jacksons since the trial. So it's not like he owes Michael anything,he'd just speaking from the heart. Did you see the Scott Ross interview? He was part of the defence team, he ripped apart Safechuck's claims that MJ was trying to intimidate him into testifying in 05.

[@catelaurent6965]

The US justice system allows victims to sue for restitution and compensation from an abuser. This is a provision in the law. Claiming money or selling objects from the abuser doesn't make a victim any less of a victim. No matter how much your personal opinion thinks it does.

[@catelaurent6965]

In US law, the only justice available to Wade and James is a civil suit. The US justice system provides for compensation as a form of justice. Victims of crime in the US can obtain both restitution and civil damages from their abuser. It is legal and common to do so, which is why the law exists. A financial claim is not evidence of a false accusation. (link: victimsofcrime.org/help-for-crime-victims/get-help-bulletins-for-crime-victims/restitution )

[@jadvygamikalauskaite3614]

"I was there to win for an innocent person!" Thanks God Lawyers like this still exist.

[@funny4899]

true hard to find such honest people nowadays

[@pissedoffpaula1732]

HBO and Oprah should do a doc about Weinstein or Epstein. At least it would be truthful.

[@mackeyjaylozada2453]

Paula burbary he white it won’t happen

[@chillachinchilla5330]

nah, they would put a nice spin on it. I think they would convince the public he is innocent.

[@mackeyjaylozada2453]

Chilla Chinchilla were are the actually proof and Receipts that he did this

[@chillachinchilla5330]

@@mackeyjaylozada2453 Weinstein?

[@mackeyjaylozada2453]

Chilla Chinchilla oh my bad lol 😂 I thought you was talking about Michael lol sorry

[@Louise-sb7vi]

I am really shocked what the media done in the last week of the 2005 trial. I unfortunately never followed the trial back then, I was about 18 at the time. I’m 32 now. I’m absolutely gobsmacked by the media’s perception and handling of the whole trial, the 1993 allegations, and with Michael Jackson in general. It still goes on, 10 years this year the poor guy has been passed, yet still he has be subjected by complete morons who can’t do a simple research, or by morons with no compassion for his children and family, also by idiots who think ‘its ok’ because other people have done it, so they think they can. I am so upset and angry with the current ballshit that has occurred. Tom Mesereau, you will always have love and respect from me and all the MJ fans, and others. You are so honourable and a truth teller. I want to thank you personally from the bottom of my heart, for what you did for Michael back in 2005, and for what you are still doing. You clearly aren’t ‘afraid to speak the truth. Much love to you. Thank you John Ziegler for all that you are doing also. I love seeing your Twitter posts. You both are 2 of the ‘good ones’ as I say. You do what you believe in, and that’s all what Michael wanted us all to do, is to believe in ourself and do what we believe in. Thank you for this interview. It has very good ‘TRUTHFUL’ information from the 2005 trial and good informative insight into the current allegations made by Wade Robson and James Safechuck in the ‘child pornagraphic’ movie which is Leaving Neverland. Produced and Directed by Dan Reed. If anyone who is a sceptic or believes these insane allegations made against Michael Jackson, does not change there mind after watching this interview, or decides to look into these allegations. Then I’m afraid to say they are Fucktards!! I would like to add all the while I totally respect Tom Mesereau for all he is doing in speaking out in defence of Michael Jackson. I however do not agree with him saying that the MJ Estate are handling it very well and doing all they can. From what I have seen (which is jack shit) I havnt seen them do anything apart from issue a lawsuit against HBO for breach of contract. That was back in February I believe. Maybe because he is in the USA and he is a lawyer, maybe he gets more info than us fans. The Estate could of done alot more in my opinion. Also I have lost all respect for them, ever since they sold the catalog back to Sony. Which MJ didn't want sold. Total disrespect

[@fk8395]

I know right How could they do that!

[@troywright359]

What you expect the estate to put hitmen on them? Crazy

[@anja1627]

Troy Wright The estate is actually run by highly questionable executors. John Branca was already fired by MJ in 2002/2003 because MJ discovered that Branca was also working for Sony so there was a conflict of interest as he was having a battle against Sony that time. Then, two weeks before MJ died Branca was mysteriously reinstated to his position of MJ’s lawyer. MJ had his own real lawyer whom he himself hired and who had his real will. The lawyer’s name was Peter Lopez, who mysteriously died of “suicide” in 2010. MJ’s ATV catalog was finally sold to Sony by Branca for a mere $750m in 2016 when it’s all worth more than that. It’s billions and billions of dollars! Then, in 2018 Branca sold MJ’s EMI stake to Sony for $287m. See? Branca’s interest lays with Sony. MJ must be rolling in his grave. He held on to that catalog for a reason. He knew its value. Branca just sold away MJ’s kids’ generational wealth. MJ’s merging of his ATV with Sony was the catalyst of what made Sony publishing that it is now today. Now, I fear for MJ’s Mijac Music catalog because I have a feeling Branca will also sell it to Sony and leave the estate dry. God forbid it!

[@menema1151]

@@anja1627 Exact my knowledges. John Branca and the other one, Mc Lain. They had a false dukoment to become the leader of the MJ Estate. They are narrow together connected with Sony and AEG. They have to do, what this powers wont. The law allows them to spend MJ's money for what they wont. So the truth never will come out. They prevent it. Don't trust this Estate. MJ was often passed over. Poor poor Michael Jackson.

[@sherrymitchell1083]

That's what Michael Jackson said , they'd kill him over that damn Catalog

[@heyitsnoneofyourbusiness]

This is THE man who has all my well-deserved respect. Mr. Thomas Mesereau you are an incredible man. Thank you so much for your fair position towards someone who wanted to Heal the World.

[@marmary5555]

It's so reassuring to hear and see Tom Mesereau again. Thank you sir 👏

[@ariesrule2001]

Yes👏👏👏👏👏

[@SS-ft8gx]

kittens are cuter than human babies Yes!!!!! We need to start taking this media propaganda to the court room!

[@dianemurray6550]

I bet if MJ raped kittens instead of human boys, you would suddenly grow a conscience, and maybe even a brain. Please don´t fondle your kittens genitals, you sick freak.

[@Sadies-girl-Cin]

This is awesome,yes thanku Tom,this should b posted everywhere,I hope those 4 see this and cave, swiftly GOD swiftly.KARMA IS COMING FOR YOU,u can run but u can't hide!

[@marmary5555]

@@dianemurray6550 shut up. Nobody gives a F about your opinion, stupid bitch 😂

[@missnicole_d_9275]

God bless you both! a huge thank you to you Mr John Ziegler for all that you are doing and have done so far. Thank you Mr Mesereau we are forever grateful to you and your team.

[@patricianordstrom3765]

Mike was innocent

[@patricianordstrom3765]

God gave us Mike and what did we do to him. He could sing when he was 5. God gave him the talent

[@patricianordstrom3765]

Shows how cruel are world is to others. He was a big child because he never had a child hood

[@miriamuSama]

This must be the worlds best attorney. I mean, he even continues to defend his client 10 years after his death. I salute you Tom Mesereau. 🙏🏼

[@nanraghav8602]

I have immense respect for this man! 🙏🏼 He stood by Michael throughout! Totally a genius! Glad to have you Tom Mesereau!

[@SS-ft8gx]

Nandita Raghav Absolutely!

[@catelaurent6965]

Sleeping one on one in a bed with an unrelated boy was unsafe behavior. Michael Jackson acted inappropriately with boys aged 7 to 14. As they aged out, he replaced them with another younger boy. This is a pattern predatory pedophiles follow.

[@_nom_nom_977]

Cate Laurent 4 different versions of the same story by Wade. Over 50 lies/discrepancies found in that documentary. Bold and physical evidences are available for every lie. James screwed up his own timeline. Big time. They are now avoiding interviews because they are busted. This is a pattern admitted liars follow.

[@anweshadeb7181]

@@catelaurent6965 On what ground are you claiming that he slept in the same bed? 1) MJ's bedroom was the size of duplex, & he had an open door policy. Parents & children all slept together. 2)MJ never invited any children to his bedroom. They were fond of him & they automatically wanted to be with him. He would give his bed to the children to sleep, & he slept on a sleep bag on the floor. 3)This concept of "sharing one's bed with children is inappropriate" is a cultural norm abided by some people, mostly white Americans (that's what I've come to discover). It's not prevalent from where I come from. Neither was it a big issue to the Jackson's while they were growing up. Sleeping in bed, means to sleep, there's nothing sexual there.

[@nanraghav8602]

@@hiswifey5305 This creature is going on spamming others comments putting forth stupid arguments!!! She has way more free time!!!

[@basementintruder]

I am currently reading the trial transcripts because I wanted to get all the facts before I followed the mob and "cancelled" MJ. I'm currently into Gavin Arvizo's 3rd day and I can't believe there was even a trial for this. He contradicts himself and his siblings, who testified a few days before him, over some of the most basic information. I will read the whole thing, of course, but at this point, I understand why Meserau says that he didn't even think he needed witnesses of the defense. Throughout the trial, the media covered MJ's trial as being a slam dunk conviction. No other possible outcome. It wasn't. The Arvizo kids' testimonies are crumbling. They contradict themselves and each other. Read it. It reads like a story. It's public record, and its meant to be read by a jury of peers. Can't wait to get to Wade Robson's part.

[@FruityHachi]

which days of the trial is gavin's testimony?

[@basementintruder]

His testimony starts on March 9th, 2005, right after his brother Star's, and ends on March 15th. March 9th and 10th is Tom Sneddon questioning Gavin, with a brief interruption during which Sneddon questions another witness for a short while. Cross examination by Meserau begins at the end of March 10th.

[@FruityHachi]

Moody Gab thank you

[@annlanders978]

I always believed that Tom Sneddon did not believe the Arvizo family at all. I believe his main goal was to humiliate Michael Jackson and destroy his reputation and legacy. Tom Sneddon was not a stupid man. If the jury didn't believe the Arvizo family why would Tom Sneddon???????/

[@giftchiposipho8967]

@@basementintruder thanks .let me go there now

[@maddoxseudenjean]

This guy still looks amazing and strong. He's just don't get older.

[@kjghdfuggfjklhgdfghd]

Right wit his long ass hair n shit

[@mazzoanV2]

Standing on the platform of righteousness doesn't age you I guess.

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

@@mazzoanV2 Can you explain the righteousness of defending serial rapist Bill Cosby? Mesereau wanted to claim the accusers were lying for money. Was he right?

[@elizabethsestina7828]

Absolutely nothing nothing, never never. I stand with this man defend Michael Jackson until his death. Salute to you sir.

[@CarolinaGonzalez-ik8mj]

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Do you have physical evidence against Bill Cosby?

[@alicias2231]

Thank you for sharing this very important interview! People need to stop being so easily manipulated by the media. I'm thankful to Tom Mesereau for taking his time to speak up for justice, the law, truth, common sense and human decency and human dignity. And thank you, John Ziegler, for making it possible and for asking the right questions!

[@alicias2231]

Oprah's behavior disgusts me! (And before Oprah's betrayal, it was Diane Sawyer & Martin Bashir!) And, "powerful white dudes"...? So you want to blame white America? Go tell that to MJ's millions of white fans. I'm one of them. I've been a fan of his and the Jacksons since I was a kid. Seriously, I believe there has been a lot of evil that has plagued MJ since he was young, and the more famous, rich, talented and generous he became the more vulnerable he became. This world is very hard and crewel, especially to those who attract attention. He was such a precious soul. My heart goes out to his family and true friends.

[@alicias2231]

I do believe that we're all responsible for the material we watch, listen to and read... and use to judge others by. If we don't buy and consume the garbage that's generated at the expense of others... the garbage that's used to manipulate our hearts and minds, then there's no money in it for the media. God bless those who still use their own hearts and minds to analyze fact and reason. I like MJ's songs; Tabloid Junkie, and Money.

[@alicias2231]

I know it's not only the tabloids who are responsible, it goes beyond that. There are authors who've written disgusting lies, TV news, talkshows, morning shows. And there are people who love to hate... those who feed on hate and evil. And I feel the DA that hounded and persecuted MJ was only interested in his own career. Maybe he and others in that area wanted to take him down because of his race and success. I think its possible. It's disgusting and it makes me sick in my gut! It breaks my heart. I'm so looking forward to hearing more about what the trustees of MJ's estate are doing to fight back, and I'm praying this will be the end of the torment for the Jackson family, especially his mother and children! I'm so happy to see Taj and Brandi Jackson fighting back for their beloved uncle and his children! As my dad would say, "God love 'em!" My family supports the Jackson family.

[@dhshew52]

Thank you both Tom Mesereau and John Ziegler, I will be looking forward to the rest. God bless!

[@debrafarinas3011]

Thank you thank you Tom m. For your support of Michael

[@debrafarinas3011]

So so important for the public to do there research Tom u already did it way back.thanks again from the bottom of my heart .

[@Pearlsky2023]

The man died but jealousy will never end.

[@sandybelle]

I was in Santa Maria for Mj's trial ,I even got inside the courtroom and saw Mesereau discredit the testimonies of some lying accusers like the Arvizo mother,he was amazing!

[@michaelt2170]

Cool I went there to and was too pleased with Tom Mesereau results

[@donghuong9060]

You were so lucky

[@Louise-sb7vi]

I couldn’t believe that she said that MJ kidnapped her and held her and her fam hostage. I honestly peed a little bit from laughing. MJ wouldn’t kidnap anybody, but at least of all her.

[@donghuong9060]

Shaz Clarke yes , she was ridiculous liar and her face show nothing but non- credit at all

[@Louise-sb7vi]

@@donghuong9060 didnt gavins testimony change like a few times whilst on the stand? i think i saw that somewhere

[@victoriafierro886]

Excellent. Facts, evidence, solid proved arguments. Let's not forget the importance of faireness over emotions. Mr. Ziegler, thanks for bringing this respectable figure that is Tom Mesereau into scene!

[@SS-ft8gx]

Vlahos happy to see all this media propaganda going to the courts and lawyers that can do something about it!

[@peacheyearth]

Totally. It's our post-truth society!

[@catelaurent6965]

There are three types of people in the world: 1. Some listen and show empathy to all victims of abuse 2. Some stick their heads in the sand and are complicit by their indifference / silence. It is almost as damaging as not believing the victim. 3. Some victimise the victims and defend the abuser.

[@SincerelyMe123]

Cate Laurent and some get paid to make clients look good. $$$talks

[@chrisjoli4135]

then there are those that seek to verify claims of abuse. Some who are naturally confused as to how a man can dance to his "abuser's music, want to go to his funeral, want to direct a Vegas show that honors his legacy. When he was in demand choreographing videos by Nsync he was fine with the abuse, now that his work has run out and he's in debt and Jamie king was hired to direct the Vegas Show, we're supposed to pretend that it's all complete coincidence? You understand credibility right ?@@catelaurent6965

[@alicemorton9145]

Michael touched my dying brother with compassion and empathy. Leaving us with a gift of his autographed record of “Thriller”. (Prince of Wales Hospital, Sydney 1986).For my brother & I Michael was the male form of Princess Dianna. Michael made mention of his desire to build a children’s hospital or at least a well functioning treatment centre for children. Both Michael and my brother are deceased now.I hope these greedy people ping off.

[@Kay-wl9vr]

Thank you for sharing your beautiful story 🥺❤️

[@fuzzyflick9905]

Well there you go 😉 Too bad they weren't fair

[@robindore9582]

Yes he is a humanitarian. MJFOREVER ALWAYS 👼❤️✌️

[@zacharymash1225]

I’m glad Michael was able to provide you comfort. RIP to your brother and him 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@alicemorton9145]

@@zacharymash1225 Your a sweetheart! Thankyou 💕

[@dirtydamfino1429]

Thanks so much for your work John! And thank you Tom for being unafraid to call Wade and James liars!

[@mayame1079]

These too are real men honorable and courageous.

[@catelaurent6965]

Michael Jackson was only found NOT GUILTY due to reasonable doubt, which Wade's testimony helped provide, but only on charges about GAVIN ARVIZO. He was never tried or found not guilty for the other seven accusers. NOT GUILTY is not the same as innocent. Jackson was only tried for one accuser, Gavin Arvizo.

[@dirtydamfino1429]

Cate Laurent not true. Other accusations were used in the trial due to “prior bad acts.” That’s why Wade was there at all. And it wasn’t just Wade that gave the jury reasonable doubt. EVERYTHING about that trial gave reasonable doubt. The alibi. The dates. The magazines. The boys changing their stories. The other celebs they tried to scam. The heterosexual porn. Sounds like you need to read the actual transcripts.

[@pam510]

Mr T, Mesereau is an AWESOME DEFENSE ATTORNEY!!!!! He Did a FANTASTIC JOB!!! Defending Mj in 2005!! Mr Mesereau is an exquisite speaker he's straight forward and nonsensical doesn't put up with nonsense of any kind.... !!!! I applaud Mr Mesereau as a brilliant defense attorney and public speaker!!!!

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

Amen!!! I fully agree.

[@mayame1079]

Wow the man is so impressive. Looks like one of the last of the gentle honorable men on this earth

[@SS-ft8gx]

Pam Yes!

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

Pam. I love your comment. You put it so well. He amazing! He won the case for MJ and proved his innocence. I remember it like it was yesterday. I 😢 cried tears of joy. Tom is the best Defense Attorney in the world as far advice am concerned. I have allege love and respect in the world for him.

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

I meant to say Tom is the best Defense Attorney in the world as far as I am concerned. I have the highest respect for him.

[@leenelson4169]

I would love for Wade, James, and Dan to go to court and have Tom Mesereau to be the defense attorney for Michael's kids. He'd have a field day.

[@MJQueenForever]

He's been hired again by the Jackson Estate 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰 So watch this spaaaace!

[@poojatyagi8072]

@@MJQueenForever really?? That's amazing 🔥 Can you tell me where I can follow the case now to be updated??

[@Veronique428]

Hire by the estate but not the children, who should’ve been the one to hire the attorney for diffamation and extortion against their father instead of feuding on Twitter over some comment made by 50 cents and co‼️

[@1979Crittle]

@@Veronique428 defamation laws don’t apply to the deceased in the US. There’s literally nothing the estate or his children could do other than what they did prior to LN’s release, and that was to try and stop it. They then had to focus on winning in court, and the did.

[@racheldavie5030]

Tom Meserau said it - human beings have a way of convincing themselves that something is true even if it isn't. And this is what LN capitalised on, transferring an 'emotional truth' to the viewer and knowing that some people are content to accept that alone as factual truth. I hope the estate are truly committed to clearing his name.

[@sandhyachaudhary8328]

Tom Mesereau you are LEGEND...i wish you get everything you deserve sir....

[@ariesrule2001]

Amen

[@ninabernel5383]

Don't say that, this guy defended Robert Blake.

[@mackeyjaylozada2453]

Nina Bernel he a legend come to Compton if you got a problem

[@ninabernel5383]

@@mackeyjaylozada2453I don't have a problem, i just know more of Mesereau's background than you do. YOU seem to have a problem forming full sentences.

[@Lakitu886]

@@ninabernel5383 his job isn't always to defend an innocent man, its also to defend guilty men to lower the sentence. As for MJ, he defended an innocent man tho

[@abysmal]

Brilliant man. You can tell that he’s a man of conviction & he was out for justice. He achieved it. Job well done good sir!

[@Marciawren]

Tom Mesereau Thank you so much for doing this interview.... You are a wonderful man and we all truly appreciate everything you have done and are still doing for Michael Jackson! God Bless you Sir xxx .... Thanks very much also to Mr Ziegler, I'm so glad someone in the American media is sticking up for the truth!

[@rachelblackwell5207]

Thank you so much for bringing this to us, John. It was thoroughly interesting to hear. The part about the media, ready with great anticipation to see Michael convicted, really horrified me. All these years (prior to the internet) Michael always said that the tabloids printed garbage about him and without the ability to easily research and verify all of this for ourselves, we took it at face value. I’m referring to the 80’s and 90’s... The world now is a much sadder place without Michael, but I thank you Mr Mesereau, for everything you did for Michael. I can’t imagine the gratitude he must have felt. Although, it seems he was never the same again in some respects, I’m very grateful that justice was served and he didn’t go to prison. What is happening now with Leaving Neverland is beyond wrong. It’s incomprehensible.

[@rachelblackwell5207]

Damario Haynes totally agree

[@Yobbie72]

I still find it hard to believe that MJ went through all of this. So insanely unfair and wrong. Why do authorities let obvious liars like GAVIN get away with it?

[@leahmay1506]

Thank you Mr Tom Mesereau Jr and John Ziegler! I really appreciate this!

[@chrism7163]

I don't know what to believe but this Documentary is bullshit anyone with two eyes and two sense can see that.

[@StoyanStoyanov777]

This is the conversation I've been waiting for months. Thank you so much! Tom Mesereau is one of the most worthy people who defended Jackson.

[@catelaurent6965]

I believe La Toya was a victim of abuse by Joe Jackson as she claimed in 1993. I also believe the details in this interview and her body language do not match up with someone being forced to lie. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaHCiXRvrsiVp80

[@catelaurent6965]

As her family says, La Toya makes her money by lying for a living. The question is when was she telling the truth. If she is lying here, she deserves an Oscar .. kzbin.info/www/bejne/paCXppKGlLdjppY

[@CorpsDiplomatique22]

He did it for money, not out of the kindness of his heart. He got millions! Lawyers don't give a shit about their client's innocence or guilt, their job is to get them off. I don't believe for one second that he thinks MJ is innocent. It's the same guy who defended Bill Cosby and said he was innocent. Mesereau would sell his soul for money. It's likely he is getting $ from the Jackson Estate today to keep giving interviews defending MJ, but in any case it's in his own best interest to have as many people as possible thinking MJ is innocent, he has to pretend he thinks MJ is innocent because his reputation is at stake. Otherwise he will be known as the lawyer who helped a monster stay out of prison so he could keep molesting kids.

[@lindseyp1664]

Luis Maputo you just want him to be guilty. There’s literally no evidence of his guilt

[@carolinagonzalezs.]

@@CorpsDiplomatique22 And boy$ who accused MJ prefered sell their little butts for money than send their "abuser" to jail.They don't have credibility. Andrea Constand sold her butt for money and changed her story six times. See the pattern? They sold their butts for money.

[@ok-es6vd]

The last 10 minutes were so insightful and refreshing, Tom explained what happened so clearly

[@JannemanVaarwater]

24:12 Tom about the evil media during the trial of Michael Jackson back in 2005. As fans we knew this all the way 😔 It's good and sad at the same time that Tom witnessed that evilness from the media to!

[@mayame1079]

Oh my god I can't imagine what MJ felt at the time. Poor guy he was linched all of his life. He is the real victim in all of this. My heart breaks for him he didn't deserve that

[@fattyjaybird7505]

Good point! I realized this too, 2005 the internet was still on the rise, or at least not in par with TV news networks, which is pretty much all people had for information then.... news broadcaster or "journalism" today are going down.... nobody can believe anything anymore.... especially "documentaries"

[@nowayjose23]

He's STILL the most famous person on the planet!

[@MJQueenForever]

That's EXACTLY what I said out loud followed by "Thriller, Thriller, Thriller" lol

[@semiribrahim8956]

@THE EVIL BLEACHED WINKING CORPSE OF MICHAEL JACKSON shut the fuck up, he was never a pedophie

[@JmBvhntnt28]

They didnt find any child porn and if they had, as MJ's nieces and nephews stated, he would've been locked up. lmao

[@f_c_1958]

And that's why liars still make money of him...

[@mjtheking8637]

Zia Smith lies lies lies

[@bryanjames6528]

MJ Was the most famous man on this planet 🌍😂 STILL IS FACT.

[@victorygirly2636]

Yes

[@victorygirly2636]

Damn greed wade rottson james suckclown

[@samitechcookie9758]

@@victorygirly2636 100%

[@jacquelineloveselvis]

@Mason Clark - The FBI need to have a word with Omer Bhatti - his last boyfriend. You'll see him in the front row, with the family, at MJs funeral remembrance. Omer was the only boy who MJ kept after puberty.

[@jacquelineloveselvis]

@Mason Clark - I have no feelings for Micharl Jackson whatsoever. I don't hate him. But I do feel that people need to open up their minds and stop defending a Paedophile. Tom Mesereau was paid very highly by Jackson. Whatever the facts are, Mesereau will always defend him. Money talks. Also, don't call people names, it is very juvenile.

[@pissedoffpaula1732]

Thank you for being Michael's voice.

[@jubai12345]

Well said.

[@89lahja]

Tom Mesereau has an unreadable face 😬... Hats off to John Ziegler!! You’re doing an excellent job! Michael Jackson would be so proud. ❤️❤️

[@gitana082]

Lawyers.. their religion is poker :D

[@MrAllysonn]

Saying "Thank you" is just not enough for the amount of work that he's done for the king of pop. 👊🏾

[@jaxpropainters.comyoutube4885]

OPRAH Winfrey is crazy as hell..

[@tamarajay7676]

A narcissist

[@conniedrake6991]

jaxpropainters.com/ youtube Oprah is a sexual abuse survivor. It colors her opinion.

[@djarthounahmed3259]

She's such a witch.

[@lindseyp1664]

And that bitch is still defending the mockumentary. Disgusting

[@justme8159]

@Hurricane Toya indeed

[@yoyit-realtor]

John Ziegler and Tom Mesereau in one video. This really made my day.I love these two guys-they are my heroes.John Ziegler,I adore for his bravery in going left when everyone is going right (because he knows he's right and will not conform!) Tom Mesereau is a brilliant, passionate lawyer who is also a brave one for defending people who seemed difficult to defend.Mr.Ziegler is giving me an early birthday gift by announcing that there will be more on Saturday, April 27. This year seems to be my lucky one. Hope this Leaving Neverland will be debunked for good! All the best to Mr Ziegler and Mister Mesereau! Mabuhay kayo (Tagalog for Long may you both live). Michael Jackson is innocent!

[@graceland5778]

By the way did you get to see: Michael Jackson: A case for Innocence by Larry Nimmer - right here on youtube. You get to see Alvin Arviso being interviewed by the police and you also get to see his mother who sued a department store claiming she was raped. They settle and she won 150k. Larry was tasked with video taping the Neverland and bringing his findings back to court. A very revealing and Interesting watch and I am so sad Michael was put through this by the lying conniving family.

[@hilolara4756]

Wade and Seifchuck would not have guts to come up with such a crap if Michael were alive.

[@annemclean2548]

It would not have happened Michael would have sued them all to hell. The dead can't sue neither can their families they thought they were home and dry with the whole media dehind them

[@kerenngonga350]

Can't the estate sue for reputation(al) damages? I want to see that boiled egg go down.

[@rachelblackwell5207]

Keren Ngonga I heard they can sue HBO for violating an agreement they had from when they aired his Bucharest concert in 1992 (?) that said that they agreed never to publish anything that would disparage him. I don’t know about anything else. It’s all now very convenient for them though (Wade & James), because the poor man is dead. 🙄

[@annlanders978]

You cannot sue for slander if the person in question is dead.

[@mattmatt4000]

Lets hope they do sue. It will lead to discovery.

[@SS-ft8gx]

Keren Ngonga I hope so!

[@SS-ft8gx]

ann landers That needs to change. We need a new law established

[@spirit0805]

i love, love, LOVE that man! i LOVE hearing him talk... amazing...

[@SS-ft8gx]

Yuli Erdreich me too!

[@galinouprod2692]

Yuli Erdreich 👍👑🧟‍♂️👁🌼🙏❤️🦋🎭

[@catelaurent6965]

Accusers rarely profit from coming forward with accusations against famous / wealthy abusers / rapists. Often it is the victim who suffers a life of abuse and death threats following the accusations, regardless of where or how they report it. Leaked emails purportedly show how USA Gymnastics worked with Larry Nassar to cover up sex abuse allegations. There is a constant worrying pattern of groups and organisations and ESTATES suppressing victim reports and allowing abuse to flourish in the USA. Read👀: womenintheworld.com/2018/05/24/leaked-emails-purportedly-show-how-usa-gymnastics-worked-with-larry-nassar-to-cover-up-sex-abuse-allegations/

[@JmBvhntnt28]

He talks with great professionalism huh?

[@mamlas9494]

When he is talking about the media: "I will forever be scarred by that experience..." - You are not alone!!!

[@Musicienne-DAB1995]

Isn't this the same Thomas Mesereau who used the media to try and influence public opinion during the 2005 trial?

[@Angela-gc3kr]

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 No. That was malicious prosecutor Tomas Sneddon.

[@michaeljulien4274]

John, thank you for doing this interview with such dignity, articulation, credibility, respect, and preparation in conducting this conversation with Tom, a person whom you are well acquainted with. Much respect to you!

[@Amit_l92]

Great interview. Always refreshing to hear Tom speak. Thanks John!

[@jimwalsh2548]

Is this Micheal Jackson's real dad!?

[@uhmokfuckyouandyourrespect2591]

Jim Walsh What are you talking about?

[@Jacinta101]

I was in the courtroom for Michael Jackson's 2005 trial. I was there for the prosecution and defense's closing arguments. I wrote a 3000 word summary of what I saw in court, including the wording on slides which were not included in the court transcripts. I published it online. At that point I was literally the only person on the planet accurately reporting, in detail, what really happened in the courtroom. And I'm not a journalist. Journalists I sat next to in court had literally no interest in the truth of Michael's innocence. One told me how tired they were after being sent to cover the story at the last minute. Me: So what do you make of the trial so far? Journo: He's guilty! Me: How do you make that assessment? Journo: I don't know. I haven't followed the trial, but he's weird So someone was sent to report on a case they had zero knowledge of, already prepared to present a coloured narrative based on their own prejudice. That was the quality of journalism as a whole regarding the case. Fast forward to today, and Michael is now being purely tried in the media, which is like looking for light in a black hole.

[@swativirdi3020]

I would like to read that. Is it available anywhere online plz???

[@Jacinta101]

@@swativirdi3020 Hi! Thanks for commenting, or else I would have missed the previous commenter's request! calicalimjj.blogspot.com/2020/07/closing-arguments-in-mj-trial.html?m=1

[@swativirdi3020]

@@Jacinta101 thankyou so much ❤

[@Jacinta101]

I thought you guys might be interested to know that my friend Charles Thompson is a journalist who interviewed several of the jurors in the 2005 trial. They said that the prosecution's case was so weak, that they had already made up their minds that Michael was most likely innocent before they had even heard his defence.

[@swativirdi3020]

@@Jacinta101 i just read the transcript.. its very well self informative, all the points very well explained and m glad something exists that shows the truthful side. M so glad i found it. It feels disgusting how media did dirty to him. A legend was born there, such a kind and generous soul and he didnt get the life he deserved. I cannot even imagine the pain he must have suffered due to these allegations. Ppl are really not interested in knowing the truth. I'm 20 & I've always loved him and nevrr ever had even 1% doubt on his innocence. You can just see that honestly sparkling in his eyes. But this is what u get for being kind on this planet. Faith in humanity lost forever. But thankyou for this transcript, it was very well written and those sarcastic touches in between were good. 🤭

[@ElenaRiazanova]

God, I hope this circus will end up asap. Thank you Tom from russian fans!

[@SS-ft8gx]

Elena Riazanova thank you!

[@switchadoll2743]

Thank You and God's Blessings To You and The People of 🇷🇺 Russia👍❤🙏

[@ladynikkie]

Well on the 10th anniversary of MJ's passing, support for Michael has really risen and people are starting to dig up a little more info on these two and finally see them as the shady bastards as they are.

[@minimimi1234]

@@ladynikkie x

[@Hevynly1]

Great interview! Love hearing him speak. It's very kind of him to take the time to speak on this topic.

[@algiethomas6905]

How Can U Not Love & Respect Tom. He Is The Absolute Definition Of The Truth!!!!

[@clairelegrand3604]

What kind of person who was victim of any kind of abuse would keep videos, pictures or rings related to their abuser or even dancing to his abuser's while he's in therapy ? If you have some emotional trauma due to the abuse, you just don't keep things related to your abuser.

[@Moon1luvflies]

I agree!!!!

[@jeannesara8464]

And Wade wanted to GET MARIED in NEVERLAND, a place where he have been abused FOR SEVEN YEARS !!!!!!

[@Louise-sb7vi]

jeanne sara that’s fucked up ain’t it. I thought that when I first saw that info. I would of probably laughed at LN, for all the blatant lies, if I wasn’t so traumatised.

[@Louise-sb7vi]

Dan Reed obviously wanted to ‘sell’ his theory. But instead he ‘oversold’ it, and fucked himself in the ass coz of all the lies and ‘mistakes’ he has made.

[@diayfatoumata3682]

Lol. Because they were fake and liar

[@saharrouhani9172]

Wow Tom Mesereau. What a hero. What a man. Thank you.

[@mayborja1853]

He is such a good lawyer never tired speaking for the truth even his job has already been done. He’s not working only for money. ♥️ The world needs people like him.

[@sjf426]

I’ve only just started watching & I’m already so deeply grateful to you both, I can barely stand it. THANK YOU, GENTLEMAN. 👏🏻🙌🏻

[@wayfaringstranger4362]

4:27 Chris Tucker was a strong witness?... wow. 😘😇❤❤ Hat off for Tom still defending MJ. Incredible man. he has no obligation to. He did his job in 2005. but to keep it up, what a great man. #Respect and thanks John for mentioning the subpoena. thanks for the interview. thanks for your real journalism.

[@biteoftheday6374]

Yes Chris Tucker was a witness because the accuser' s mother also tried to extort money from Chris Tucker.

[@natalias3502]

you should read the trial transcripts, they're are very eye-opening.

[@f_c_1958]

@@biteoftheday6374 And his GF wrote a letter to the family and made it public!

[@f_c_1958]

@@natalias3502 True!

[@75marklee]

@@natalias3502 canu post link to the trial transcripts

[@Moviefan2k4]

I have immense trust and respect toward Tom Mesereau. He has gone far beyond mere duty in his defense of Michael, both legally and conversationally. The news media was too much for me to watch back in 2005, because I was a huge MJ fan and could not bear to see him torn to shreds. But I do remember the verdicts sending a great sigh of relief through me, and reading Aphrodite Jones' insightful book (for which Mesereau did the foreword), about a year later. If they ever do make a standing museum for Michael, I think Tom Mesereau deserves a plaque of recognition or something, for all his defenses of MJ.

[@nawalbens6548]

Thanks to both of you guys for spreading the truth 🙏🙏 #mjinnocent

[@mayame1079]

Finally someone is spreading the truth.

[@TheWeightlossfastx]

Thank You Tom Mesereau ...You are truly a guiding light......Everyone please share and re-post this video if you feel as I do.....Bless you all

[@dianaspeechless]

👌Tom Mesereau *THANK YOU* and *THANKS* John Ziegler for this interview. 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[@Gigiroo]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you gentlemen!! This was excellent. Tom, you’re wonderful as always, thank you for sticking up for Michael today and as you’ve always done. John thank you so very much for speaking out and interviewing the right people in this case, and for standing up to the facts!

[@moongod7158]

MJ was truly fortunate to have an amazing defense attorney like T-Mez. Thank you for this great interview!

[@David.lovesU]

If Michael was so innocent why would he give 20 million dollars to his victim?🤔

[@moongod7158]

@@David.lovesU He didn’t. Show me the document that says 20m.

[@David.lovesU]

@@moongod7158 you don't pay 20 million dollars to anyone if you're innocent. Michael paid immediately after photos were taken of his genitals. Jordy knew of his birthmarks.

[@moongod7158]

@@David.lovesU There is no document that exist that shows MJ paid 20m. The civil settlement took place after motions were denied to stay the civil trial (delay). You know nothing but your tabloid version of events. I'm going by documented evidence. Civil settlements can't stop a criminal prosecution or anyone from still testifying. There was no birth mark. I read the DA Sneedon affidavit who saw the photos. He never said there was match, he talked about markings, not a birth mark. Markings of Vitiligo, dude. He tried to introduce the photos at MJs 05 trial and was denied by the judge. The same photos that were used against him at two grand juries in 1994 where they asked his mother, ridiculously if MJ altered his own penis. Proving the photos didn't match. Plus MJ wasn't circumcised like Jordan claimed to Weiss a detective that interviewed Jordan. MJ autopsy also proved he wasn't circumcised. Jordan own lawyer, Feldman requested for the photos to not be used or for Jackson take others. Bye!

[@rzella8022]

Love Tom Mesereau and am forever grateful for his professional and strong support for the innocence of MJ. Wonderful man. And what he said about the "MeToo" movement was so true: emotion but less due process. Great interview John Ziegler!

[@UrkaaP]

Michael Jackson is my hero. Mr. Mesereau is Michael Jackson’s hero. Mr. Mesereau is MJ fam’s hero. Thank you so much for standing up for the truth! And Mr. Ziegler the MJ fam will never forget your work! We’ll forever be grateful to you. God bless you both!

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

Wow! Thanks very beautifully put. Tom is a god sent to MJ. I lovevthat man.

[@Orion_Nebula_M42]

MJ is my hero too.

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

@@Orion_Nebula_M42 Did MJ did something in your life or through his music to make him a hero? He did me. His messages in his 🎶 music saved me when very depressed from suicidal thoughts. I have the utmost love, respect for him. I love MJ with all mycheart, mind, soul. This Neverland thing and all the slander has made me so upset. I want to sharle this with you because I feel you loved him alot too. I went to bed 2 1/2 weeks ago and went in my room and broke down crying. I asked the Lord to let me speak to MJ and let him hear what I needed to say. I went to sleep that nightcaps had the most real dream I have ever had. I was at Neverland Ranch and walking along the path by the big pond. I saw Michael sitting on a bench deep in thought. I walked overcrowded him and said hi. Hevlooked up at me and said hello. Can I help you? I said yes. Do you know how much you are loved by your fans? Do you know how missed you are? Hevlooked up at me with those beautiful eyes and said yes I do. I miss my fans, my 🎶 music, performing, my children, my family. I come here because it is my home, to protect it. He hugged me and said thank you. I love all my fans and miss them. He glowed and his smile was so warm, his eyes full of love and happiness. I felt such a peace come over me I woke up and had tears running down my face. I only shared this because of you and your sweet comment. She is ok now. He is in heaven. He also told me he isn't hateful or angry at what people are saying. He said those feelings died when he died.

[@patessiaw-quayson6634]

I meant he not she. I am in tears texting this andi am sorry for my errors. Have you heard the song You Are Not Forgotten? It was written by R Kelley to pay tributecto Michael. I never heard it til Easter. I cried listening to it. The most, beautiful song I have ever heard. Listen to it on UTube. Type in You Are Not Forgotten by Michael Jackson. Lovevthe words. Goodnight. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤

[@Orion_Nebula_M42]

@@patessiaw-quayson6634 You should feel very blessed to have had that dream. I have never admired someone as much as I admire MJ. I can't explain the connection I have with him, I just really respect the immense amout of raw talent he had. On top of that his music set the bar for my own musical taste. Like him, I have a unique ability to really feel and connect with music. He was really not if this earth. His aura, presense, and musical genius was a manifestation of an Angel from heaven. I really cannot imagine life without MJ. Even in my personal goals, he inspires me to keep pushing and setting the bar high for myself, to look myself "man in the mirror" and make a change.

[@danielrichardson1090]

This is great. Thank you John and Tom. 👍✌️🌏👊

[@mguyton1912]

This is all about destroying a legacy, brand, name, finances

[@alainm5291]

I love his voice - a no bullshit tone yet soft spoken

[@carolynwilliams6738]

Dear Tom, your support of Michael now and during those awful days of many months previously, are so appreciated, I cannot express just how much. Mj is so loved. XX.

[@terryboyd5808]

We will always love Tom for what he's done for me and for us fans

[@terryboyd5808]

Him my and fans

[@Caecilia61]

Thank you John Ziegler and Thomas Mesereau, it is so unfair to MJ what is going on with LN and all the lies in the mainstreem media...., thank you for standing up for Michael. Love MJ ❤❤❤

[@StudyingMJ]

I wish Tom would write a book about Michael.

[@annlanders978]

YES.

[@jeannesara8464]

Sure

[@mjmj8837]

we ,all the fans have to buy the book.

[@yayeawaniang9805]

Yes❤

[@bilal6094]

I'd buy it

[@everitalukjanova9714]

Toms voice is so relaxing, it's like ASMR to me! Such a calm, confident guy!

[@cannonball1395]

Love your hair color lady

[@everitalukjanova9714]

@@cannonball1395 thnx! 🤗

[@carolynwilliams6738]

In our darkest hour / In my deepest despair / Will you still care? / Will you be there? #michaeljackson

[@nishaadskitchen1092]

🥺❤

[@deedee6237]

Tom Mesereau, I love that man! He is such a phenomenal attorney, and human being!! He has done so many interviews about this slanderous film, ( I refuse to call it a documentary ) interviews he does not have to do. In my opinion he is more than happy to participate, because he cares, and knows how wrong this is! Again this man does not HAVE to talk about this he is CHOOSING to!! Sneddon, rip, was so determined to take Michael down, he was such a vicious man I dont know if I could have held my composure with that man, but Mesereau did! When mesereau had free time he would go to local pubs in Santa Monica and ask the residents how they felt about Michael, another thing he did not have to do, and they had nothing but great things to say about Michael. Things like that he would do because he is truly a one of a kind lawyer! Aphrodite Jones’s book conspiracy foreword by Tom Mesereau. I HIGHLY recommend this book it goes into everything that happened in that 05’ case, also goes into more than just that one thing I mentioned Mesereau did during his off time, and how hard he worked Going above and beyond! I could go on and on about what a intelligent, brilliant, and for phenomenal lawyer and person Mesereau is!! I have so much love and respect for this man! And thank you Ziegler for all your hard work you are putting in! You have been amazing through all this!

[@nikhilgoud9089]

Thank you so freaking much John Ziegler 🤩

[@angelvisions444]

Tom Mesereau is a hero and an inspiration - thank you for all the support you have shown against these false allegations against Michael. May the truth continue to shine for ALL to see.

[@BlushGush]

A Lawyer who speaks in the defense of his client even after he's paid, after his client has passed, after all these accusations come out of left field and who has nothing to gain by defending his previous client - is not only a good friend, but an honorable lawyer. A person of integrity. Thank you, Tom Mesereau. Thank you.

[@donbon2027]

You both are definitely doing a excellent job.

[@tarao7224]

Firing Mark Geragos and Benjamin Brafman and replacing them with Tom and Susan Yu was the best thing Michael ever did. He really struck gold with them. The fact that Tom never hesitates to speak in Michael’s defence over a decade after he defended him and stopped being on his payroll speaks volumes. Most lawyers would not do this. I wish Tom was in charge of his estate. He seemed to be one of the very few people Michael could actually trust.

[@Cresenta]

Thank you both SO much!