Tom Platz on Mike Mentzer 😢💔

[@leonidkotkovskiy9097]

Tom Platz has a very kind heart. Mike Mentzer was very sensitive vulnerable man. Very intelligent

[@fernandoangelessoto9301]

His vulnerability is what killed him. He should have manned up and continue in the game.

[@paulaumentado1588]

Nah that only a part of it what killed mike was depression he went through so much the guy didn't deserve this​@@fernandoangelessoto9301

[@aidangaddass9076]

​@fernandoangelessoto9301 What's the point of continuing to play the game if it's rigged.

[@user-fz8xe2xz8w]

​@Mantastic-ho3vmIt was

[@gregarious6662]

​@aidangaddass9076 Exactly! Mike called out and didn't want to "fit in" / participate with Weider's Ch*ldish, C*wardice Cr*minals.

[@carnivorous_vegan]

He redeemed himself with Dorian, and his last days were spent creating instructional tapes for others. It's a bittersweet ending for him.

[@myversionoftruth]

Those training tapes and videos are just incredible. I am learning from them and getting benefits also. Mike was really great guy. Bodybuilding community would never forget him and will thank him for his teaching. RIP Great Mike. 🙏

[@nextlevel8771]

@@myversionoftruthMike Mentzer is a guy trying to be different and a bitter one at that. I’m forever grateful dude lost in 1980. His ‘training philosophy’ reflects itself in his reaction to it… completely giving up and breaking down. I know one’s things for sure.. Arnold would never have done that. That’s what you get for being weak minded. Now idiots actually cult follow Mike, it’s crazy

[@Coalemos]

​@@myversionoftruthhe was a pioneer but his 1 set ideology was wrong. There are numerous studies showing this. It doesn't mean you have to do 10 sets but 1 just isn't enough apparently. I started working out from home with just a bar and I had no idea what I was doing. I still did pretty well despite that. I had to take time off and during that time I came across Mentzer's stuff. I thought when I get back to it I'll do that, 1 set to failure high intensity training. I even had it in mind when I joined the gym. Then I found out it's wrong and studies show this. I do 3 sets and recently added myoreps in. I can't believe the results. I'm still in newbie gains territory because I'm working muscles I've never hit before. Mike seemed like a good guy with good ideas for his time.

[@DeDieuAntique]

​@Coalemos Actually, one set that takes 3 minutes will do more than a 5x5 or 3x8 etc. Most people respond well to intensity. Trying to do one set of squats of 20 reps when your tank is empty at 10 reps, will build you up faster, denser, and mentally prepare you for a lifetime of lifting. You have to sit there with the bar enduring the weight until you decide to descend. Time under tension does a lot for you. Just because it's too intense for most, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Plenty of studies contradict each other. It depends on the methods of the study, the participants, and the honesty of those involved. Myoreps are amazing.

[@Coalemos]

@@DeDieuAntique oh I'm all for time under tension, absolutely brutal and I love it. I'm going to stick with 3 sets though and more even for certain muscles. I'm going to failure as often as is possible on exercises that allow it (which is about 90%) and I'm still getting used to certain movements so multiple sets works for me. I asked 2 PTs about myoreps and one told me to stick to the basics that it's for advanced lifters who plateau. F that! I'm going to do everything I can to ensure failure or honestly what's the point? I see so many guys just going through the motions using equipment and not pushing, I don't see the point in that, do it or don't. Today was legs and I could hardly walk and I absolutely loved it.

[@mattshepherd1736]

He realised he had dedicated his life to a sport that wasn’t a sport but a show

[@regalsurvivor3418]

That could inspire an episode of depression

[@mattshepherd1736]

@@regalsurvivor3418 must feel terrible knowing you put in just as much work but just so happen to be a victim of corruption

[@PanzerCrewman]

Gay party

[@mattshepherd1736]

@@PanzerCrewman gaylimpics

[@donquixote...]

Well, as long as he figured he was the golden child and he'd get his so the rest didn't matter, he was ok with it... That's right I said that. He didn't just drop out of a space ship, he'd been around the sport for a while already, knew the history of bourgeois competition between Weider and Hoffman, the marketing warfare, and seen & heard of others misfortunes. So no pretending there's anything new under the sun...

[@weignerleigner3037]

Mike was a smart dude. That’s why he fell into depression. When you see how the world actually works and understand it it’s very depressing

[@lazar9754]

Knowing a lot about the world can make you feel sad because you see many problems. But, it's important to remember that life is still a beautiful gift. The difficult things we face are chances for us to grow stronger and learn. Life is short and special. We should see the good in it and understand that bad things help us appreciate the good even more. It's like when it rains, and then we see a rainbow. We should enjoy life, learn from the hard times, and always look for the good. This way, we can live a happy and meaningful life, no matter what comes our way.

[@jerrylestock3004]

Amen and Amen. Nothing makes sense

[@stevenkowalisyn22]

@@lazar9754well said. So true.

[@Yokatosh]

When redditors think they are smart

[@grabs_you5954]

No he was chemically depressed but was pretty cognitively sound

[@MDProducts-pf4ym]

Crazy how Mike actually wanted to help people out and no one wanted to listen to him.

[@jasonkim11]

I'm sure many teachers feel this way.

[@krystofodehnal9448]

😂

[@falco2296]

Can relate, not to his degree but to a point It hurts when no one understands or cares

[@krystofodehnal9448]

@@falco2296 Mike only wanted to make money

[@onewarriornation602]

No one listened because his program is fucking 🗑️

[@jonathan-zo9nh]

They say people who are intellectual are more depressed

[@justintodd5145]

It's true. They feel they are different from humans. They don't like talking about stupid things like small talk or gossiping. They only want to figure out the universe. And nobody around you cares about that stuff. It's very lonely.

[@futureisyours3016]

when the cassette plays, but there's nothing recorded on it!!

[@p.l.diablo9864]

Emotional IQ, empaths. They cant help not feeling.

[@PiracyandDumbbells]

Ecclesiastes 1:8 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow." 😪

[@GarbageGarageInc]

@@PiracyandDumbbellspowerful verse

[@tb5687]

Mike changed my life because of his training videos on rest and recovery. I was destroying myself and didn't even know. Thank Mike, RIP. You didn't win it all but you affected more lives than youll ever know. That's a true champion.

[@cheffroggo4363]

12 years of overtraining and substance abuse has my body n mind messed up. I'm recovering though, it's taking years though to recover from such damage

[@p.l.diablo9864]

He did win. Everyone knows. His legacy is legendary. They can never take that away.

[@georgewilkie3580]

​@@p.l.diablo9864 You are absolutely correct! Mike Mentzer IS The Un-Crowned Mr. OLYMPIA!

[@MarioVinals-gt3yw]

​@@georgewilkie3580and Kevin Levrone

[@ROMANMAKEAMOVE.]

Me too. I just finish my first high intensity training today.

[@imranzafar1781]

The way Arnold stole the trophy from him, really did a number on Metzer

[@ScienceFusionLab]

Arnold wasn't the reason, Mike lost his father, his business ruined, his gf broke up with him and meth, these all together made him mentally sick from 1984 to 1990

[@NapsterRulez]

Mike is great, but he definitely wasn't winning the 1980 Olympia

[@mitch5944]

Yall just making shit up without actually knowing lmao. Hes a person we all got issues who knows what the thorn in his side was. I'd rather not make assumptions.

[@jackdarefsky4784]

​@@mitch5944 somebody does apparently @ScienceFusionLab

[@Foralluhaterz]

They put him 5th when everyone knew he won

[@oldschoolliferhere]

I hung out with him for 4 days back in the 90s and told me so much that opened my eyes to a lot of things in BB.

[@lawdog369]

tell us!

[@evergreen4034]

Please!

[@catedoge3206]

@@lawdog369 yuh

[@lawdog369]

@@catedoge3206 yuh wat?

[@adyensp]

Is this cap chat

[@user-es8of4fx5w]

Mike Mentzer is the Van Gough of body-building, his advice was overall ignored aside from an exceptional few but he's now become larger than life after his death

[@JohnnyLawrie25]

Posthumous genius

[@paulbrower1812]

I really wish Mike could see the recognition he’s getting now and how many people see what he’s done and know that he is truly the uncrowned king

[@Thanoswasright_]

Y’all were too late 😔

[@Mishairl]

45 years later... thats the way life is..

[@assassincodm8450]

Imagine doing decades of research on how to train and no one from your time listens to you. Sad.

[@shrekster3990]

Lots of its has now been disproven which is worse.

[@somone799]

Its the exact opposite, there have been many studies done on muscular hypertrophy supporting mentzer’s training.

[@assassincodm8450]

@@somone799 was stating abt when no one listened to him in the 70s due to lack of those studies. From his time. I myself train with principles of mm on exercise.

[@frog8553]

@@shrekster3990what’s your source

[@PowPow-yp9rf]

​@@shrekster3990 I genuinely don't understand how when guys like him, Dorian were able to achieve that physique through mike's training methods. I've also seen countless comments and posts on the internet confirming that mike's training style worked perfectly for them and a lot of the posts on net were of natural guys

[@kevinharrison2394]

Life slowly chips away at us all.

[@AshleySmyth1212]

No it doesn't, be a man.

[@charlesterrizzi8311]

Forgive before it’s too late is one lesson we can take away

[@sup7530]

Jesus loves you and will accept you no matter what youve done. Just accept that youre saved by Gods grace through the death and redemption of Jesus 💖

[@JoeFabeets]

Mike Mentzer was highly intelligent. High intelligence can sometimes be a curse.

[@jk61490]

Intelligence isn’t the curse, AWARENESS IS

[@JoeFabeets]

@@jk61490 like the fact that the more I learn, the more I realize how I know nothing

[@jasonfusaro2170]

​@@JoeFabeetsSocrates

[@alexparakan]

It wasn't the fuckin intelligence the curse of Mike. It was the ADHD. It can make you highly intelligent and dumb at the same time if you don't get proper treatment and start using drugs.

[@danielbrowniel]

@@jk61490 Ecclesiastes, "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow." I miss everything about being younger except being ignorant. It's terrible thing that life is so short when everything is so interesting and it would take several lifetimes to appreciate it all.

[@prestonmoore9996]

Mike Mentzer’s principles are what made me the bodybuilder that I am today. I owe it all to that guy because for many years I was left confused and plateaued with my training. After reading his books and watching his seminars I progressed faster than ever. Thank you Mike and RIP.

[@sf2explus184]

exactly he explains why we need rest and not to over train. results come super quick keeping training days 4 days or less. for me 3 day per week works best. some weeks 2 times.

[@trentongardner2106]

​@@sf2explus184crazy. I'm natural, and have to do 6 days for results. Some people I know on sauce only need a few days a week though.

[@roberthoule4504]

After 20 years of training i'm finally able to make gains following mikes principles.

[@katakurithecalamity9840]

the fact that they robbed him twice in a row and nobody could approach him and look him in the eye because they knew he deserved 1980 olympia and even arnold had to leave without making eye contacts because of the shame of it

[@trentongardner2106]

He got 5th. Looked good. Imo about the 5th best maybe 3rd at most. Arnold just looked better than everyone else. It sucks for others, but that's why Arnold is the goat.

[@katakurithecalamity9840]

@@trentongardner2106 i dont know about you but i am no mr olympia and i am 99,99% sure that you aint even qualified to even be in the top 10000 of bodybuilders either but i know that i can trust the opinion of tom platz and he himself said that mentzer was robbed and arnold wouldn't even be qualified to be in the top 10's and and he was doing the wrong poses all the time during the competition to show only the good features of his body and the judges didnt even detect points from him neither disqualify him for continuously doing that and the cherry on the top was him winning and running away because he couldnt look in everyone eyes when he robbed them

[@michaelsongin4007]

@@trentongardner2106Arnold looked better than no one that year? He showed up after becoming an actor and stole the prize through judges who were doing his publicity a favor.

[@98AH_]

It’s really really heartbreaking, Mike was sensitive to outside forces and let it get to him. All he needed was someone by his side always.

[@RedfishCarolina]

Tom is one of my heroes. Heroes don't have to be perfect, they just have to motivate you to be your best, and that's Tom Platz for damn sure.

[@sushobhandash]

That 1980 shebang really did break him 💔💔

[@bicepbrah8179]

Can’t blame him. Bodybuilding was his everything. For it all to be ripped away by politics and corruption, heartbreaking.

[@bbrandumbb]

⁠should of just congratulated Arnold and move on to competing the following year. Why throw away years of work and study?

[@bicepbrah8179]

@@bbrandumbb Thats very easy for you to say. He worked his whole life for the Olympia, and was extremely dedicated. He was confident that he was the winner.

[@ScienceFusionLab]

Arnold wasn't the reason, Mike lost his father, his business ruined, his gf broke up with him and meth, these all together made him mentally sick from 1984 to 1990

[@Lousy-Looter]

​@bbrandumbb why? So he could be humiliated again and again? It isn't always that easy to just come back next year...especially when training at this level, besides the next year was Franco's turn to steal the Mr.O

[@michelweienborn3196]

Often times very intelligent people are very sensitiv. Not because they actually are but because it often is hard for them to make up a fake reality to protect themselfs from hurt like other people do.

[@jeremyjeremy8795]

That’s a really good way to illustrate it

[@eastwoodccj]

I love Mike even more for his tragedy and the lesson he gave us all! He stood up for his truth though: that you don't need to forcefeed protein powder and over training is worse that sort of kind of bad: it is the single biggest mistake most body builders make.

[@onewarriornation602]

Overtraining is a myth, just like "you only need to do one set to grow ." But hey, Methzer did do a shitload of hardcore street drugs, drank his own urine and fucked other men for money so maybe he was onto something with one of those things.

[@somone799]

Godspeed Mentzer 🕊️🕊️🕊️ Fly high.

[@gabrielmorales5064]

It’s crazy how both just died within like 3 days of eachother

[@kikomacedo8529]

Muito comum entre gêmeos

[@umarhossain2701]

​@@kikomacedo8529 yeah they weren't twins

[@johnlong9494]

​@@umarhossain2701 yes they were. Look at the mustaches... NO, LOOK AT THEM :|

[@umarhossain2701]

@@johnlong9494 very slow 🦥

[@vikramsinghdutt]

I think they were killed by illuminati

[@gator4458]

They could probably make a movie about Mr. Mentzer

[@electricgoat7833]

that would be awesome

[@user-qu9wj1vh7i]

Damn Mike 🥺 this broke my heart. I hope he’s resting peacefully.

[@TheMercuryZz]

He really couldn’t get over that 1980 mr Olympia. Sad.

[@floomdoom1]

None of us have.

[@user-uy9gp3rm7e]

@@floomdoom1 I'm ok with it.

[@blacknikespurpleblankie1354]

@@user-uy9gp3rm7eonly one of us have

[@Chris-ro7mn]

​@@user-uy9gp3rm7eyou lack principle

[@blacknikespurpleblankie1354]

@@user-uy9gp3rm7eonly one so far

[@Rybak_v_Krasnom]

The body of an athlete, the soul of a poet, and the mind of a philosopher.

[@seanwhitehurst8794]

They say the greater the intelligence the greater the suffering

[@NemeanLion-]

I don’t agree with that statement.

[@OneMan-wl1wj]

"In much wisdom is much grief, and he that increases in knowledge increases in sorrow" The book of Ecclesiastes

[@user-tu2dr3ny6x]

@@NemeanLion- Why? Every highly intelligent person I've ever known either becomes a drug addict or is on psychiatric medicine. Meanwhile people I know that can barely even read are happy as fuck 99% of the time lol.

[@NemeanLion-]

@@user-tu2dr3ny6x Yeah, ok 👌

[@thebeing7033]

It's always the good ones that leave early.

[@seankinsellasean]

I’ve been getting stronger and making progress since going from 5 days a week to 3. Thanks Mike

[@Someone-pt5nc]

I've noticed one thing about all these guys who pass away early.... they live on forever through there work ❤❤❤

[@adods9824]

Their

[@JasonFolk07]

Mikes way of bodybuilding will never die' It will carry on for many generations to come!

[@GeorgiyVasiliadi16]

You are right brother 💪🏼

[@drossi101]

HIT? Lol Mike didn’t use hit and no bodybuilder of note used hit. It lives on for people that will drink the koolaid of an 80s meth addict.

[@onewarriornation602]

Yep, there'll be Gay4Pay drug addicted snorting meth and doing shitty half assed workouts decades from now. 😂

[@Gargarks]

Probably not. He gets rediscovered about once a generation when new lifters want to try a methodology that seems to promise more results for Less work. They try it for a couple months see initial gains and then a sharp drop off and go to more traditional methods.

[@Miguel_man]

I'm 35 now and recently getting back into fitness and have been listening to Mike's training points on reels. Seems like there's nothing really solid on these guys like a documentary or tv specials. Would really like to see a comprehensive video on the Mentzer's

[@charlieross4674]

Good comment: same here.

[@abrokanfxr3388]

RIP, thx for changing my life! you'll be always be loved , Dr Mike Mentzer-

[@iamjason1279]

Platz is basically the mad scientist that went down as a legend🫡😔

[@TheEatShizzel]

Sometimes being intelligent is a curse. You see more and understand more. It’s very depressing especially when others can’t see or understand what you see and understand.

[@ofekmizrahi3079]

You also get caught up in too much shit and overthink beyond your focus and you lose control

[@Matthew-rc1xt]

I used to idolize Arnold when i first started training. But between all the shit he did and his “screw your freedoms” attitude to the common man. I grew to see Arnold was just an opportunist and an elitist

[@ianbrown5955]

Exactly!!! The same here.

[@woodsballjunkiepb5991]

If only Mike knew how many he has inspired and helped me their best self today.

[@randyead]

It’s crazy how his brother passed away 2 days after he did. RIP to both

[@benjo8547]

I mean, can you imagine? He stopped medical school to pursue bodybuilding.

[@mr.niceguy9394]

Legend ❤

[@nonoasailo9690]

When I was growing up I looked up to Arnold Schwarzenegger as I get older I look up to Mike. His method was absolutely astounding...To this day

[@AnotherMexican-ur5vb]

A Legend only is truly admired after his story has been told..R.I.P Mike you inspired me years even after your death may god let you Flex in Heaven right next to every Fallen Legend in history.

[@starchild.P]

Great minds with crippling addictions...lifes a comedy and yet a tragedy

[@tr7b410]

The politics of body building broke his spirit. If you were in Weiders stable of promotional YES men, you won contests.

[@user-xb8vd2wu1p]

Rip mentzer bros

[@gerretshadow7599]

Intelligence and wisdom can draw out even more severe cases of depression. I hate it… now I feel even worse that Mike suffered through that.

[@justhwsky]

Mike realized people didn’t want truth or honesty, they wanted a spectacle

[@user-cp3kp5fs2k]

AS A BODY BUILDER ITS OUR DUTY TO KEEP TRYING ❤❤❤ MIKE LET EGO WIN JUST BE HUMBLE GUYS AND BE STRONG FOR LIFE

[@Drod5]

Our HEAVY duty to keep trying!

[@justmemayank352]

And the more you know the more you suffer

[@laxmanmotorcyclist4657]

Tom is really nice person❤

[@cam-inf-4w5]

The more the intellect and compassion the more the pain and demons come for you

[@first-thoughtgiver-of-will2456]

sometimes the people with the most active and strong minds think of things most other people usually passively ignore and it can get to them from time to time.

[@miguelleonpulido2227]

I feel bad about him and his bother, they early passed away,they still had more to give. Mike was really intelligent but never seen to be recognised as it should

[@popovgaming6924]

“Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth.” ― Fyodor Dostoevsky

[@gavster023]

Mike hit self destruction

[@GassedUpCam_]

Man. They went out like true brothers. His brother died 2 days after him. That’s how I’d be if my little brother died. Brothers til the end. 💪

[@Johnny_G.Y.M]

I think that above all that happened that day, he realized that this was the last year he could have competed to win at the end of what is now known as the golden era.

[@sumit200in]

I feel bad fot mentzer....that Olympia loss hit him so hard....he was deserving that day i feel

[@jeffadampreston]

Even great men have their demons. Some sadly lose their battles with them.

[@malcolmmacnab698]

Mike cared about the truth but the cheats got the best of him

[@_..____]

High IQ, high sensitivity.

[@BrawnyNerd]

Platz is one of my favourite people of all time, sincere, genuine and humble.

[@kevinchamika8424]

A bad system will destroy a good and innocent man everytime.

[@joescott906]

It was more than 1980... It was nautilus against free weights his teachings went against the Weiders and Arnold's principles, business and money.

[@SebaDiGiuseppe]

And this shows us, guys, that regardless of how perfect someone looks from the outside on the inside they may be destroyed. Bless his heart.

[@johnmakaron3381]

Rest in peace Mike and Ray

[@dwade6322]

Mike....G.O.A.T 🐐

[@allanperez8241]

Mike really didn’t deserve to lose those Olympias he has definitely changed the science role in bodybuilding

[@onewarriornation602]

Science has debunked his HIT bullshit and he placed 5th in that Olympia and looked like shit. Time to get over it.

[@SCALES1992]

Mike and Tom are both uncrowned kings period!

[@Karadzaaarm]

Ernest Hemingway once said, "Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know."

[@willpowerman8817]

Mike Mentzer just seems that despite his many blessings(intelligence, good body) also had some real bad luck. Rest in peace Mike.

[@thegreatkabukino6639]

I've always found that people with higher intelligence, philosophers, educators etc, are always so much more vulnerable than we realize. It's almost as if they have seen the unmasked world, see life for what it really is and slot of the time it wounds them deeply. Makes me glad to be just an average person and not someone on that level of a Mentzer. At least his teachings and knowledge will live on, especially through the internet.

[@Pkstp1]

Some of the most brilliant minds In the world get the respect they deserve only after they pass away. Mike Mentzer was a genious who was highly underrated at the time and only because he instructed to train on an opposite to what famous Arnold and others instructed.

[@bashirjohnson4120]

Wow he was rare it's too bad he's gone way too soon R.I.P. 😔

[@vimtobill4156]

When you're intelligent, you essentially are alone until you meet someone capable of understanding you. This isn't a dig at anybody. Just people have different wavelengths and being on the same wavelength isn't always that simple.

[@jefftalbot5192]

A true sigma male that was ahead of his time(but his depression drove him to train some of the greats like Dorian;)😊

[@exray49]

bro 💀

[@user-lp3je7yh5z]

Эти люди меня воспитали больше чем отец

[@Bwestbrook]

Mike mentzers heavy duty program focused on natty lifters. He said why follow a regiment made by a steroid user. Since I moved from six days to four but when heavier and harder those four days with a day of rest in between. I have become shredded I have a six pack my obliques are coming in. All from making sure I prioritized heavy movements especially compound staples. Such as deadlift shoulder press and chest press etc

[@user-mr3ny8om4b]

Deserves more likes And engagement 😊

[@Bwestbrook]

@@user-mr3ny8om4b I used to follow Arnold’s and all the mainstream guys. I have gotten double the results in shorter time with body composition change with mentzers way!

[@DbolOnlyGangster]

Mike had depression in his family . Plus the death of his father really impacted him negatively he loved his father dearly . The only reason he lifted weights was because of his father . Then he gets cheated from an Olympia and just snapped . I feel sorry for mike . He wasn’t a bad man just bad shit happened to him .

[@albertgongora6944]

That's just heartbreaking rest in peace Mike You're a bodybuilding legend can anybody who sets the goals of becoming stronger and fitter

[@jh9981]

I appreciate Toms comments. I have loved all of the books by Mike and all the training tips.

[@andreitrench5386]

Mentzer was a genius

[@onewarriornation602]

I didn't realize geniuses snorted meth, drank their own hot piss and turned tricks for drug money....

[@jordanmossing5614]

The industry hated Mike for preaching you don't need to obsess over working. He stated you don't need steroids, a gym, or your whole life dedicated to spending money to workout. That goes against what these mainstream pimps want their hos to promote. If you think the industry cares about you, you're probably being pimped out to spend money on their man made drugs. Mike promoted to workout healthy and spend the rest of your time with family and learning. That's why the industry constantly trys to discredit him. He didn't do what they wanted like Arnold and many others to keep yall self absorbed and hooked on drugs. Wake up. They literally have most convinced if you are strong, ripped, and or stacked that you have to be on something. I've seen guys as big as body builders without steroids or any enhancements, just proper training, rest, and food. Convince the people what GOD gave them isn't good enough and pump them full of ego and chemicals. I've gotten so big myself personally that everyone thought I was on something....never have, never will. Through GOD all things are possible when you're willing to do the work. Our strength comes from YAHWEH. Work hard and pray harder with GOD all is possible. Stop supporting criminals that pimp you out on pharma and ego. Work hard and love your family. Time here is short. Live everyday like that's it.

[@scottwade369]

No

[@Lousy-Looter]

You are absolutely right!

[@wittywolfwrath]

​@@scottwade369, Unequivocally, yes.

[@onewarriornation602]

Interesting choice of works, claiming others "pumped themselves out" when Methzer literally pumped himself out to Gay men for drug money. Speaking of, also interesting you bring up "they want you on drugs" considering Methzer was a hardcore tweaker strung out on meth, who would drink his own piss because he was convinced it was Anabolic.

[@scottwade369]

@@wittywolfwrath Wrong

[@jebjed3998]

Sad , But at least Mike left us with the most complete bodybuilding theory and program for naturals ever devised.

[@SHADOWGAMING-cp9tw]

*Pain and Suffering are inevitable for a Great Mind and a Deep Heart*

[@chrisstager8045]

Amphetamines were very big in body building back then, and the rumor was mike was hooked. Sad he was so far ahead of his time

[@DG-nb6fe]

Amphetamines always have been a great ped for the last 100 years. Energy to get out of bed and start your day, to train intensely, to get by on lower calories etc.

[@Ravedalf]

Mike mentzer preventing you from being big as hell.

[@zacharyfindlay-maddox171]

Mike Mentzer's advice on training has helped me a lot!

[@BasedDepartment.]

Mike sadly died a bitter man.... But he was a visionary.... Inspiring many

[@waynevictory5208]

All I think of when you say bodybuilder is drug user as they all did steroids that’s why so many of them are dead. What makes me irritated with them . Was as a 13 year old kid who looked up to them worked out 3 hr a day 4 days a week and never got to be massive.so I finally just gave up on it in my 20s that was when all the steroids us was coming to lite .

[@MrPlaylistMan]

Most people think they'll blow up if they start lifting, it's not true. It takes years to be a natural body builder.

[@Matt-lf9nn]

Despite the drugs, enhanced bodybuilders still put in tons of work for their physique. I was the same way, 13 and thinking everyone naturally got to an unnatural physique. The biggest thing about bodybuilding is to be happy with your own progress rather than comparing yourself to other people with different genetic makeups than you.

[@Nightdiver20]

I also started lifting at 13 and I still do today at 38. It's been an unmitigated positive for me.

[@user-bc2nr6rh1y]

​@Nightdiver20 me too at 64. Run...lift..

[@xmax9297]

I hear good things about Mentzer’s training advice, but didn’t he and his brother take meth as pre-workout at some point? 😂 I swear I read that somewhere and that’s how his brother died or something like that. Crazy stuff.

[@anothersamsulekenjoyer]

his pre workout was ampethamine which was prescribed by his doctor. it's a substance used to enhance your focus and usually given to kids with adhd. his rivals at that time were literally illiterate and confused ampethamine with meth lol. it's said that the mentzer brothers died from genetic heart attacks. i felt bad for him after clearly reading everything about him.

[@shakkarugat9184]

​@@anothersamsulekenjoyerRay died of a kidney failure no?

[@assassincodm8450]

@@anothersamsulekenjoyer you did ur research brother, happy to see ur comment ✌🏻 It's these crazy ppl who just believe what they hear. They can actually learn valuable info if they listened to MM with an open mind

[@DG-nb6fe]

Mike’s mid-late 1980s preworkout, 5mgs oral dextroamphetamine, 20mgs Obetrol (original Adderall) Methamphetamine and large McDonalds coffee. As told by Larry Pollock to Leo Longevity. Video is on KZbin.

[@Jr-yi1oo]

Long life to the THE UNCROWNED KING Mike Mentzer 👑 ((And F*ck Arnold))

[@290revolver290]

Mike bumped into something that messed him up real bad. He just couldn't handle the world afterwards.

[@SpeedyMckeezy]

Life in those old days was much more competitive and tough then now it seems

[@brooklynbull-e3565]

Mike might have been an intellectual, but he was weak minded. He was seeking the love Arnold received.

[@Toonarmydee]

I believe when you know your right but yet everyone laughs at you it has an affect on you mentally. Over the years it probably broke him. Its stressful and it can make people withdrawn. I know! I don’t think he wanted so much the love but the recognition for his work and his studies. Which we all know he deserved that atleast. Just my opinion 👍

[@kreejahdulip3292]

When Dorian changed the game ..only then people start listening...when they found it was mentzer's student....even Arnold was dumb founded! ...

[@brooklynbull-e3565]

@@kreejahdulip3292 Dorian was already a mass monster when he met Mentzer.

[@edua999]

​@@brooklynbull-e3565he got that body by applying Mikes training for years before even knowing him in person

[@brooklynbull-e3565]

@@edua999 that's not true. That's not what happened

[@eduardoe1242]

Plats is a sellout ... Trying to make the money he missed on back in his day, Even tho Arnold screwed him over he still hanging onto his nuts

[@mitch5944]

Lmao bruh u would do the same shit in his shoes. Bodybuilders don't make as much $$$ as you think unless your Arnold and he made that $$$ not from bodybuilding.

[@sandysarker]

This brings tears in my eyes. We lost a legend too early 😢

[@gerhardscorgie33]

You are all legends and when i look at you guys, you'll always be here, in our hearts😢❤

[@michaelloncaric1454]

Thank you for you changing my life Mike Mentzer, may you rest in peace gym grandad❤️🤙💯

[@mcnutterfudgn]

Took it to heart