Installing an inset gas fire

[@ianferguson8367]

fantastic video, great experience for the lads, my assessor asked the question in my ACS about flue pull asked me to look around the room notice anything, he left a window open and partically blocked a vent to see one if i notice and two make sure i was follwing the MIS , the vent he fitted was a flyscreen ..i wrote down the faults as well as carrying out the procdure for a flue flow test..

[@charlie2ism]

I've just had this done, in March 2022, but my gas fire is the type that looks like a woodburning stove, and it (and flue) had to be removed from another room, and the roof and ceiling there made good. The gas supply was directed in from the kitchen - luckily the gas cooker was behind the back wall of the traditional old hearth. The new inglenook has been lined with 15mm fire proof board, and a new lintel and oak beam were added. The installers made a thorough job of protecting my floors before starting, and they used a large extractor fan (with tube expelling air/dust outside through an open window). A carbon monoxide detector has also been installed. Total cost = £1,900.

[@Burncash1510]

Derek the legend love your vids really appreciate the time and effort u put in.

[@thisispw]

Did you use heat resistant plaster for this job?

[@shazaberashid9287]

Did you add a flue liner or is it not needed

[@alanthomas2064]

Is a class 1 swept flue sufficient without a flue liner?

[@tomkatgastraining]

If it passes the flue flow test and the fire manufacturer says it can be installed on one then yes

[@alanthomas2064]

The cause of sooting in boiler?

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@alanthomas2064 boilers have to be on a flue liner but this video is about a fire

[@eleanornicholson3211]

Hi, I have an old 1930s house and it has an gas fire, we've taken that out and put a lintle in but the hole to the back of the chimney isnt wide enough, how do we sort that for a new inset gas fire? the lintle is big enough but dont know to make the hole wider without it not supporting the rest of the bricks for the chimney. any help would be great!

[@tomkatgastraining]

The lintel needs to rest on at least half a brick to support the weight of the. bricks above. The lintel doesn’t take the weight of all of the bricks above just the ones that go into a triangle pattern above it. To make the hole wider you could use a grinder to cut the bricks out but it makes a mess and is very dusty.

[@eleanornicholson3211]

@@tomkatgastraining oh brilliant thank you. So the lintel we have supports the first row of bricks up and half a brick either side so the rest of the bricks towards the back will hold up on their own? I can now just take the rest of the bricks out. Thank you :)

[@businessmind2869]

Is there any need on this service of fire, to remove the glass screen and clean the burner, logs and test thermocouple (FSD)?

[@arronthomas6177]

Hi Is there a special tape you use to protect the gas pipe from corrosion in the fire place

[@tomkatgastraining]

You can use electrical pvc tape because the glue is ok for the copper and it’s heat resistant

[@arronthomas6177]

Is it okay to use Teslaflex yellow tape ?

[@tomkatgastraining]

@@arronthomas6177 it is designed to protect stainless steel pipe, I personally wouldn’t use it, I guess you would have to ask Tesla if it would be ok

[@jattmanchester]

Can you have a wooden frame instead of bricks then plaster board around it and at bottom of frame to.

[@tomkatgastraining]

Not on that fire

[@alexandrosmarkakis4712]

Would you pull the whole fire out for a £60 gas cert?

[@tomkatgastraining]

Of course you have to

[@groovejet33]

I had a look at my mates fire openings the other day. Hes had a whole house refurb & about to fit 2 ILFE fires"Valor 963's" The 1st chimney space is standard opening. The 2nd fire opening is again a standard builders opening, as you look from the face of the breast. But look inside the builders opening, instead of originally being bricked up left & right, creating a typical opening , its actually a wide internal opening which goes all the way to what would be the outer brick chimney sides, but obviosly in this case we're concerned with inside area. So its a large, all be it..... very clean and tidy builders opening. I guess you could say that if you imagine a typical opening...take that same opening size & that would be again the left & right sides. Making the opening 3 times the standard size. The gas fitter hasnt seen this yet, i dont believe. But i said id expect it should be bricked up. Just unusual, especially as the other chimney is differant. Better get the ILFE POLICE in? Ha ha ha

[@ilexwang715]

Hi how is the "pull" created in the chimney please explain a bit ? thanks

[@tomkatgastraining]

ilex Wang when the positive pressure air passes over the chimney outside it draws the negative pressure air inside the house up the chimney it’s called the chimney effect, hope that helps

[@kevinsay7335]

Bernoulli's principle is an idea of fluid dynamics. It says that as speed of the fluid increases, pressure decreases. ... A higher pressure pushes (accelerates) fluid toward lower pressure. So any change in a fluid's speed must be matched by a change in pressure (force). That's copied from the interenet. A carburettor works on the same principle.

[@dannymatona3506]

Nice one. Again very helpful

[@thealifamily8090]

Great video on this scirocco Royal 600 fire 😉

[@chrisconnelly3834]

its a crystal fires Boston

[@christyreilly3327]

Did you use heat resistant plaster ?

[@jackcotton7768]

How much does a job like this normally cost?

[@tomkatgastraining]

Jack Cotton depends on the amount of building work required. This job cost the customer a grand for the fire and a grand for the labour and materials so not a cheep job.

[@mj0n4id36]

Nice video Derek. One question. What did the trainee engineer do wrong at the very end when he did the spillage test again? Thanks. Asian Jon. Training

[@tomkatgastraining]

Mohammad Jonaid you will soon find out Jon 👍🏻

[@aaronjoyce1980]

Top video Derek. Very interesting 👍 Aaron trainee 😁

[@andrewtomlinson18]

Hello Derek, another great informative video, I rarely install gas fires but take out and cap off lots, I am often asked for documentation but as their isn’t anything specific to cover this type of work I usually fill out a CP12, can you recommend anything better ?

[@tomkatgastraining]

I designed my own commissioning sheet for our trainees to use in the centre and when they are doing their portfolio.

[@saeedkhanjra9246]

@@tomkatgastraining how do you put on the remaining piece?

[@karensnushall6191]

What is the model of fire please?

[@tomkatgastraining]

Sorry I haven’t got a clue

[@karensnushall6191]

Lol....no worries

[@andrewmardell85]

Crystal boston

[@FlightoftheWombats]

I very much wish I did my training with you guys

[@mj0n4id36]

This is gold! 2nd time I’ve watched this. Great video with great commentary. Thanks Derek 👍🏻 Asian Jon. Training.

[@JK-ws3ed]

All I can see are the trousers of the workers, not what they are doing. Suggest you start again and tell people that you’re filming

[@timeyre9985]

get an ash hoover look after your lungs lads

[@Scarface_2024]

Great video!!

[@secondchance4498]

Chris Taylor

[@piotrmarchwacki3414]

Very interesting video. Thanks a lot. Polish Peter - trainee from TomKat😀

[@kudospremier7415]

Loving the video soon to be a Gas Engineer I'm sure viewers as I do appreciate the film. Go lads!!!!! Soon... I will be a (female)Gas Engineer.😃 🙌😃

[@tomkatgastraining]

kudos premier good luck in your career and thanks for watching cheers 👍🏻

[@rakeshpathak8053]

No chimney liner

[@Zinadene69]

Hi Rajesh, I don’t believe you always need a chimney liner. If the initial chimney tests all pass, with no smoke leaking into the bedroom or loft area then its good to go without a liner. You also need to read the installation manual in case it stipulates the use of a liner. I hope that helps.

[@craighurst3599]

CH👍

[@themessenger2455]

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