Instrument Check Ride, What to Expect

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[@slowsteve3497]

Midlife? You look like you are 25.

[@Tommyflies]

Add a decade to that 🙂

[@wheelairrentals7132]

Lol. Still not quite midlife. Or let’s hope not!

[@scottcollins3187]

Congrats on Inst. ride.... That's an important one! Realize your failure was a learning experience. In any interview, remember those words..... A learning experience, no excuses.. We are all still learning. Stay safe.

[@kel0ck85]

Like you I’m looking to make a midlife career change. I’m 44 & looking to start my instrument rating training. Did you do all of your ground school first & then get flight hrs with a CFII or did you mix them both as you went along? Congrats!

[@dianemenke3185]

I was 59 when I started my IFR training. I owned a plane so that was the easy part. I used Sheppard Air for the written test prep along w CFI in flight training and ground school assistance. I passed the written and I am now prepping for my oral and check ride w my CFI. I try to fly 2 times a week with them and while in flight we put the pieces together. Good luck with your process D

[@jvke.p]

What’s up dude! I’m doing the same thing now. Got my private. Working on ins now. Then on to commercial.

[@jamiehawley9508]

I just started my instrument training and I am finding this video VERY helpful. Thanks for taking the time to share your checkride experience!

[@wokkus5610]

mid-life? you look pretty young, dude

[@johndebord9088]

Good Training Tom...Thanks for sharing.....Safe Flying.....Blessings from the Sacred Heart of Jesus....

[@nickmyatt]

congrats, I'm prepping for my IFR check ride now and man its overwhelming lol

[@RusscanFLY]

That's awesome! Congratulations brother.

[@jp4163]

Congrats Mr. Fancypants IFR Pilot!!! Thanx for sharing your study guides.

[@pilotgirl5953]

Thx for posting this. My examiner did the same as I didn’t use an autopilot. He took over to act as my autopilot while I briefed the approach and set up. He said he loves to fly too !!

[@royson345]

Congrats Bro! Knew you would do great, you're an awesome Aviator! 👌

[@naosay]

When you say he took control to allow you to the debrief, does that include setting the approach on the GPS and all the related bugs?

[@carlott13]

I call wxbrief all the time. I teach my students to use it in private so they know how to do everything without foreflight.

[@Straightahead101]

What career did you get out of and how old are you? I'm 38 was a sales rep changed and went full pilot. Now I have 1300tt a job in aviation and 40years olf

[@Mr_Bones.]

Woaw, this was extremely informative. I’m about to do my checkride with a part 141 school. Our standards for the checkride are lower because the training overall is a lot harder. However, I’m very happy that your 61 and my 141 had us buy the same red oral exam book (and that you were over prepared, the best state to be in). I’m an avid ForeFlight user even though my 141 school requires paper flight logs, paper weight and balance, and e6b’s. I learned about binders from your video and will definitely use it to organize my flights in the future. Thank you so much for sharing this!

[@socksincrocks4421]

Hey Tom, what's your primary career? Thanks

[@itsPlanesUSA]

Congratulations, even though this video kinda old. I appreciate your videos as I too am trying to make a career change. Passed my Instrument exam, now I’m just flying with my instructor prepping for the check ride. I saw your video about the DPE, very helpful, sorry that happened, keep it up, I look forward to watching the progress!

[@samuelwarner9411]

Congrats! Thanks for sharing your experience

[@michaeld4134]

How long was the oral and flight ?

[@Tommyflies]

Oral was probably an hour (I didn’t have to look anything up and I was prepared so it went quick) flight was about 90 min

[@justplanefred]

Congratualtions on your Instrument rating! Thanks for the tips

[@serverguy74]

Congrats man! Been following your channel for a while and enjoy your content. I finished my instrument ride in March and am heads down on commercial.

[@philipp8977]

Congratulation Tom! Really enjoy your videos and content. I'm about to start IFR training myself, so thanks for sharing your study tips!

[@ProPilotPete]

Congrats! The instrument rating is definitely a tough one!

[@jburho]

Well done, Tom, and congrats!! Been following you for a minute; looks like we're on the same page as I'm also a Mooney owner making a mid-life career change to aviation, and just got my instrument rating in March! Might be moving to the Destin, Florida area in the next few months for better flying weather and I'll have to hit you up sometime if and when we make it out there. I did have one question, though: Why didn't you use your Mooney for the checkride? I bought my IFR rated Mooney (a 1976 M20C) specifically so that everything would be the same, every flight while I was doing IFR. I'm just curious why you chose (or didn't?) to use a different Mooney for your practical... Keep up the great videos!

[@Tommyflies]

Thanks for following along! The Mooney in the thumb is my new Mooney. 65 E. Newer engine and a nasty panel. Check out my Instagram for pics 🤙

[@VIGuy]

What is this age “mid life” 😅

[@jeffdo9195]

Need to get a haircut before airlines

[@577buttfan]

Get back on the fabric dude lol

[@PBAR_B1B]

Thanks for sharing the info!

[@jwdonal]

I really liked your video. Regarding mid-life career change...would you mind sharing your age (or approximate age)? I'm 40-ish and wondering if I'm too old to be considering trying to go up through all the ratings.

[@VFRontop89]

Hey brother what kind of mic and equipment do you use for these vids? I’d like to throw out some vids to help others as well as you are.

[@Tommyflies]

How I Record Audio While Flying kzbin.info/www/bejne/nafHfH17rpV5d7M

[@captaingeeb3592]

I noticed you had pilot cafe for your binder for the checkride. Were you allowed to actually reference it during the oral?

[@Tommyflies]

I never asked but the general rule is only FAA documents (FAR/AIM, POH, etc.) so I’d say no.

[@abbieamavi]

congratulations!1 Ifr is not an easy rating, but it opens up a whole new world, and makes you a safer pilot by huge bounds. And I agree about the ASA books, they're great and I've used them all for my flight training course.

[@WX4CB]

i just did my sport pilot checkride, he was great, very fair and "probing" so to speak... I was a complete bag of nerves and forgot stupid answers... things like... "what do runway hold short lines look like"... i was like.... errrr... i can't remember LMAO.. he was gracious enough to allow me to draw the layout from the AFD for KDED as a visual guide and i got it. but yea... nerves are a helluva thing to get over. but the DPE himself was a great guy and would definitely use him again if i decide to move up from sport to full blown private. the funny thing is, you say about lining up the wrong runway. I DID THE SAME THING... the one runway had the runway number right on the intersection and completely confused me.

[@mrdude2702]

Excellent information. Thanks! and congrats on passing the check ride. I'm sorry to hear about your issue with the DPE, how unfortunate. But you got over it and passed and are on your way to the top.

[@jeffobrien1836]

Hey! I am now a subscriber. Trying to follow a similar path. 42 years old here! Teach me all the things you’ve learned along the way!

[@josephportaro3678]

Hey bro, congrats. Passed mine a few months ago. I've watched a bunch of your videos and enjoyed following along. Open invite to KLNS if you're ever looking for some $100 burgers

[@GolfFoxtrot22]

Nice comprehensive video Tom. You are really stretching your flying legs now. Your subs have gone up nicely as well.

[@aldohattonduran5227]

Brother 🙌🏻💪🏻 awesome job! I'm proud of you too 🇺🇸🛩️🏆 I'm following your steps and advice.. ty

[@JustSayN2O]

For my oral exam, I explained that my personal minimums were equal to the VFR minimums because I have not yet trained or practiced in actual IMC. Don't "BS" the DPE by saying "alternate minimums" because the DPE will know that's BS.

[@christopherjschultz]

Congratulations on IFR! Great video with some valuable information. I wanted to let you know the link you have in the description for your instagram is incorrect but I found it at the end of this video. Cheers!

[@TheBarzook]

Congratulation! I'm writing my IFR exam in 2 weeks. I'm doing it just for my own personnal enjoyment, but it's still as much work. Makes you appreciate what others are doing to get it.

[@scottyp1873]

Congratulation's Tom on the new rating. Thanks for post and the hard work you put in to it. My plane getting a engine overhaul. But when I get it back Ill be starting my instrument rating. Thanks again.

[@wp4246]

Who was your examiner? Did you use the guy at Asheville?

[@staytogether27]

Congratulation to you, it's a great success, I am sure you have a huge peace of mind now, so one chapter is closed, next one will be big and high, fly safe, and stay well :)

[@bobbypatterson7481]

Congrats! Insightful, informative, relevant.

[@MJ100k]

Nice 👍

[@TheBL202]

Congrats. Good foreflight tips. Didnt know about a few of them.

[@willburrito9710]

Mid life?

[@cporthouse]

Congratulations!!! Currently working on my IFR in a Mooney as well.

[@TonyEssig]

grats man. you did extensive research and study..nice job and this vid

[@johnshurts]

You did fantastic! On your way to Commercial, don't forget tailwheel - an easy one and a fun one but that's where you learn what the rudder is for.

[@JB_Hobbies]

Congrats, and thanks for sharing what it was like. Slowly working my way there.

[@michaelfagan2403]

Congratulations on the IFR pass!

[@laurab9642]

woo! same! should be taking mine soon here.

[@jasoncarlson8356]

Congratulations! I’m assuming your DPE was Chris Peterson? Just had him to get my PPL certificate a couple weeks ago. I don’t have much to compare it to, but was an Awesome DPE! I would recommend him to anyone. How’s the new plane? Hate tgat we never got to meet while you were over at MKS.

[@Tommyflies]

Yep. Chris was great. New plane is a dream 🤙

[@Willowcreekbees]

Congratulations man that’s awesome!

[@tombrotherman7838]

You're also qualified now to sit in on an environmental investigation. You said what I preach to our engineers and bosses during investigations. Answer the question asked truthfully, but don't answer more than what was asked. I'm sure that applies elsewhere.

[@jarrettleto]

Hey not sure how far along you are now but I'll give you my advice. For IR you need a lot of cross country PIC time and alao instrument time (50 and 40 hours) so I would recommend getting most of that done so you know what instrument is all about then take your written and then after you pass the written really power into check ride prep and schedule your check ride. Just my personal opinion that taking the written too early makes you not realize the practical application of the knowledge, but you also don't want to take it too late so just me I liked taking it in the middle and then prepping for check ride after that

[@pilotbsinthesky3443]

Congrats! Random question, If you pass written with Shepard Air only, does the DPE ask about or ask for proof on other ground courses you may or may not have used? Thanks

[@Tommyflies]

The DPE doesn’t care about any of that, just that you provide proof you passed your written exam. You’ll need a logbook endorsement to take the written though, which I believe you can get from Shepard Air. I just used my Sportys endorsement to take the test.

[@pilotbsinthesky3443]

@@Tommyflies Yup thanks, I already passed my written and working on hours before Checkride. Just didn’t want to waste their time if I needed some other type of proof or prep course. Thanks

[@uncletonyppg326]

Great job, congrats!

[@1dullgeek]

Congratulations!

[@MrSpinnerbug]

Congratulations Tom- Way to go🎉

[@ron1969]

Congrats Tom!

[@iceking1905]

Congrats bro

[@carlosmontalvo4351]

congrats!

[@dinnistv2635]

Congrats brotha!

[@Pilot_engineer_19]

Great job!!! 😊 Just remember to keep current on your rating. Something I just ran into for instrument pilots. Have you ever heard of a tail stall? Usually caused by icing. Knowing how to recover is both useful and interesting. You probably already know all these things. Anyway, much success in your future career.

[@youpattube1]

What is a dpe ?

[@TheFalconJetDriver]

Tom Congratulations on you Satisfactory Evaluation. I just watched the video you released about the unsat! That DPE needs to be flipping burgers somewhere! I feel she had it out for you from the beginning. Putting that behind us. I am six minutes in to this video and I want to say as a former examiner for the ATP and Type ratings on several Corporate Jets. You offer some great advice to perspective potential failees! Just Kidding. Seriously I hope many watch this video and take your advice. Be prepared is the key as you infer. As well as leave the shovel at home answer the question and only the question, even if you know more about the subject do not offer that information. That was sage advice from you that I agree with. If the Evaluator wants to dig deeper they will ask you to do so. I always kept it professional! Upon entering the briefing room I outlined the events that would take place for the evaluation on a white board. We discussed what we would be doing so there were no surprises. And I reminded them that this was not a check it was a $$$CASH RIDE! $$$ (no fees where exchanged as I working a FAR 142 training facility. ) I wanted to try to get them to relax. Typically they would laugh at that. I enjoyed teaching and Checking over years as well as flying corporate for 50 years. You have produced a very good video on your experience and it should serve well for others. I would also say I like your personal minimums, be conservative. Yes you can legally look an see at zero vis but it is not wise. Again congratulations well done! And one closing thought that will save you more than you think! Listen to your intuition! 😁🛫 We need to find you someone to give you a free hair cut after all you have a lot of money to this far! Dude seriously I am not sure what your aspirations are in aviation, I will say you would be a very good instructor if that is what you want to be. And down the road an even better DPE.