Why Do RC Car Manufacturers always Lie about the Top Speed? Team Corally Radix 6

[@TomleyRC]

Just to clear up the 'speed claim' thing.... I love the Radix, it's an awesome buggy, and I'm using it as an example, but my statement is based on 'Most' Manufacturers' not directly pointing the finger at TC ;)

[@evelghostrider]

The claim has to be real or they face legal charges. But !! A big but, they may have achieved the 70mph under what they call test conditions. Just as all vehicle manufacturers make claims of very high fuel milage per gallon. Those vehicles are towed upto speed, stripped down, and even driven behind larger vehicles to achieve their claims. I suppose what I mean is the claim out of the box can be achieved by the manipulation of words or by certain test conditions 👍

[@mathias4891]

@@evelghostrider60s vw beetle does over 100 mph . Dropped from a helicopter

[@evelghostrider]

@@mathias4891 and if a company claimed that speed, thats fine. Its the individual who makes the assumption, As I said all vehicle manufacturers give wild mpg claims, but there done under strict conditions to maximise all that, they just have no need to inform a customer as what they claim is factual in their tests 👍 Today people make assumptions way to quick.

[@FarmerFpv]

With the stock tires and a true 100c battery it will hit 69mph. Not CNHL or Ovonic, or power hobby. They are cheap lipos. They have very low C ratings. Cheap Chinese lipo companies over inflate their batteries amp rating. They are to blame for most RC cars not hitting their box speeds. Using Reedy or my MAX amps lipos almost every RC I have purchased hit their claimed speed. A good lipo will cost you $180 to $250

[@FarmerFpv]

@@evelghostrider The blame goes to the lipo batteries. These channels are using cheap batteries. I see a lot of CNHL , Ovonic which is a cheap. Chinese battery. With a true 100c battery most the cars will hit their claimed top speed A lipo with a true 100c will cost you 180 to 200 plus dollars. Chinese Lipo companies are the ones being dishonest more than any RC manufacturer.

[@KevinTalbotTV]

im so jealous of that runway!

[@TomleyRC]

I may be able to pull some strings for you once your Limitless is finished. I'll race you with mine.

[@durkadann2943]

my two favorite RC channels together for a race? now that would be outstanding.

[@filsdedieu100]

@@durkadann2943 ;-)

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

@@TomleyRC that would be a sight!👊🏼👍🏻😂🤪

[@evelghostrider]

I was looking at that runway thinking high speed bike runs 🤗🤗

[@BangForYourBuckRc]

Speaking for my self, I think as a consumer I would rather have the true “out of the box speed” printed on the box and maybe a small notation somewhere on the box showing what capable speeds can be attained if you change this and this and this and this...If we are all aware of their deceiving trickery when it comes to speed claims then why can’t they just be honest and print what it really does out of the box! Some people enjoy the hobby and don’t mod and just enjoy stock. They deserve to know the honest capable speed, as well as the enthusiasts who does do mods and tinkering deserves to know what it’s capable speeds are with stock motor and esc. Am I asking for too much!🤪 great video Phil!

[@TomleyRC]

Agree.... why put on your website 60mph... when you are gonna slap 70mph on the box!

[@rickyham2991]

RC car manufacturers are probably one of the least guilty of over advertising. Take at look at any of the big “real” car producers and they quote much further from the truth. “Average 64mpg” Yeah...... down hill with the clutch disengaged and a favourable wind... I agree with everything that you say about advertised speeds, but I think there are just too many grey areas that are circumnavigated by advertising departments, because that is what they are paid to do. We could try to start a “Truthful Advertising” campaign but I don’t think we would get many Corporate Sponsors.. love the channel and the views of many 👍👍😜

[@stormycannon8904]

I completely agree I like stock equipment so it’s easier for me to repair, I like simple durability, and try not to beat up my stuff because it’s expensive to replace part’s well for me anyway.thx from California.

[@ianbudgetrc2574]

Yea I noticed that as well. Mostly Traxxas does that. But Not arrma. Talion 6s, typhon 6s, Senton 3s, typhon 3s, kraton 6s, infraction, Felony.. They all achieve the advertised speed stock (with speed pinion)

[@TomleyRC]

Yes agree.... Arrma are pretty good with their claims!

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

My big rock and granite both claim to do 50mph on the box and with a 15 tooth pinion on 3s i can get to maybe 45-47. Pretty damn close for not even putting in a speed pinion. The brushed mega arrmas only go like 20mph out of the box though, when they claim 30. Pretty lame you have to change your pinion and run the motor hot to get even close to the advertised speed with those.

[@scottkernan9007]

You crack me up RC cars so much fun I've had a RC track at every place I've lived since mid to late 90s awesome channel

[@gillian9178]

Great vid man, some of the worst offenders for outright fibs are C ratings on a lot of batteries.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, agree

[@MCsCreations]

Pretty impressive buggy, Tomley! 😃 Fantastic runs there!!! Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate

[@KevinTalbotTV]

to fair to the x01 comes with everything in the box to do 100mph

[@carbonara7246]

I have fan art I sent to you on Instagram

[@TomleyRC]

That may be true.... but have you ever seen a stock one do 100 Mph out the box 😂

[@TKO593]

I got my Typhon V5 to do 101mph on stock electronics. Just changed tires and gears and didn’t spend as much as it cost for a XO-1.

[@motortoys9942]

Unless you don't have an iPhone lol

[@KevinTalbotTV]

@@TomleyRC most i ever got was 98 into martyns foot but it had more in it

[@icabodpsillycyberman414]

Love the Traxxas voodoo incantation! The other thing that annoys me is the fact that so many rc cars come with tyres that arent capable of the speeds the car is!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, imagine if real car manufacturers done the same! This car will do 160mph.... but you need to change the tyres, put a new gearbox in and download an app on your phone haha

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

Aint that the truth

[@Copperzkey1]

Definitely agree with those points brought out finally been working on my project car a custom cncd machine drift car been busy am a under water welder so not much time for hobbys love your videos be well Sir

[@TomleyRC]

Underwater Welding... that's a pretty cool job!

[@ericwood2790]

It might not be what they claim Phil , but I’m still impressed by it looks like a fun buggy to run with enough speed to get you into trouble. Good job on the video.

[@TomleyRC]

It’s a really nice buggy

[@rccarsandmusic2641]

Great run! My ZD tc8 could only muster a 48mph on 6s on stock tires with one blowing on a 23t pinion. I lowered to 20t pinion. The big 4076 motors have a delicate balance of pinion and motor ramp up. Interesting smaller tires got you there. Big low Kv motors need high c rate and amps. Great runs.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate, yeah, gearing can be a complicated thing to get right!

[@sammancuso6780]

Same here tc8 goes through tires and rear driveshafts quick. I upgraded to hobao drivetrain and it’s way more tough now

[@lukedavis4213]

At least it's just a pinion needed and not an optional motor etc! Has that tyre proper had it or can it be reglued?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes... just a quick gear change

[@philiplibby7536]

She's a beastly machine that for sure! thanks for sharing 👍

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah, it's a good looking Buggy!

[@RCOverKill]

Love the way the corally sounds.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, sounds crazy!

[@motortoys9942]

This is the spot I need!

[@Fonzierc]

That's awesome mate very nice run 👍 Never the less it's a awesome buggy for sure i definitely would like it 😆😁

[@TomleyRC]

It certainly is awesome !

[@Fonzierc]

@@TomleyRC absolutely it looks and performs really well Imo

[@XWXW-lk4jf]

I have gotten 63 mph with a 6s battery with a bone stock everything, regular pinion with the Typhoon.

[@MauzyrockRC]

+10c lucky! We are getting Sheighlas' brush in St. John's. (late march snowstorm) Do you think this platform would do a rally conversion?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I've seen! (My Father inlaw lives there)

[@benlait3696]

Arrma don't. Just put the speed pinion in. Got 69 mph from my Typhon V5 on a cold day. I ruined the tread with one battery though. 🙂 Shame the stock Radix 6 tyre's didn't hold up. I love the look of the Radix 6. You should give Team Corally Hardcase 4500 mah 6s lipos a go they are excellent!

[@TomleyRC]

It's an awesome buggy.... yes, the GRPs were a lot smaller. Not sure how well it would have gone at 70 with the stock tyres lol

[@stephenhogston7394]

Love it buddy tell it like it is , I hate these wizard of oz scarecrow speed claims ,should come with a warning as when box seals broken you are no longer in Kansas Dorthy

[@TomleyRC]

Hahahaha

[@stephenhogston7394]

@@TomleyRC thought that would tickle ya

[@SharkysGarageRCandMore]

I do wonder what the Radix 6 would do with those larger Mojave wheels on...... ???

[@TomleyRC]

Be good off road!

[@derricksazrc3411]

So much to be said about different size objects appearing faster or slower. When I was young I would race against my friends Blackfoot with my Midnight Pumpkin with me winning at the finish line. His reply was that my 1/12 scale appeared faster because it was smaller and I was like ooooooooh kaaaay.

[@TomleyRC]

Hahaha

[@derricksazrc3411]

@@TomleyRC I hope your move goes well and am super happy for your new place. Your content is inspiring to me. Look forward to the new studio touch.

[@NathanStorer-RC]

Too funny the tire blew. Even if you have to gear the vehicle up a bit to get to the advertised speed, you would expect the stock tires to at least hold up. Man, that little car at the end just screams!

[@ThatSwedishGuy]

Looks like they just came unglued, and if the diff got a blow out at 65 ,meaning the wheels went a lot faster then that.

[@TomleyRC]

Yeah...better glue needed!

[@rcwreck-creation]

What was that at the end!?.... nice one mate! 🍻from🇨🇦

[@TomleyRC]

Wltoys 124019

[@russlondon]

Hi Tomley, great channel & vids. Please you post some links to those GRP slicks? I bought a Radix after wathcing this.

[@donniemarks94]

It looks like a Le mans prototype with the aftermarket wheels and tires, awesome 👍👍

[@imnoexpertrc1054]

Spin round 4 times then turn the transmitter on 😭🤣😂

[@modelnutty6503]

its just a jump to the left... and then a step to the ri-ri-ri-eye-eye-ight... put your hands on your hips... and tuck your knees in ti-eye-ight... (sing along ya'll know the rest!)

[@TomleyRC]

hahahaha

[@mathias4891]

Dunno if just me but sounded like all the rpms were used in the recording of this . Higher kv motor would actually make it scream speed i think . Listen to how flat the sound is when it passes

[@justinturner4327]

@Tomley RC great vid as always!! How do you think the build quality ( for bashing ) compare to the Arrma Typhon ? Cheers 👍✌

[@SpeedSyko]

First off, love the channel, big supporter! I’ve had 2 typhon 6s’s, it looks like a toy grade in the video compared to the typhon. But, I haven’t seen it in person. May look solid. Ide like to see comparison video. I’m not sold on corally yet. I may get one eventually. Good job hitting 70!

[@TomleyRC]

It’s certainly not Toy Grade, it’s actually really well put together. Best to look at them in person, they are really nice

[@NordicRC]

Good test. GRP’s?

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, 17mm GRPs

[@pgrcplus]

Because they take their lead from real car manufacturers lying about MPG 🤣 Still looks a nice buggy 👍

[@TomleyRC]

haha

[@rcproponent2290]

New sub, that crack at trx made me lol haha

[@mikes361]

I have the TC Punisher doing 86 mph with a 21 tooth pinion lol

[@juliensalas2945]

hi! how Can you have 21tooth pinion in punisher ? i have one and i Can not have more than 16 (ref 72716) witch one do you use? did you modificated spur? or other things? thanks for your help !

[@wordreet]

There's a partly commercialised old airfield just 15 miles from me. I will make an effort to get permission to fly or drive RC stuff there this year.

[@TomleyRC]

That would be cool if you could. Perfect place to fly

[@dipesh8836]

I think the arrma Typhon is probably better as it goes to 70 mph out of the box

[@TomleyRC]

Maybe that’s why Corally put 70... so it looked as fast as the Typhon?

[@forrester674]

Good stuff great runway. Where do you get your Grp's from

[@TomleyRC]

Trackside Spares 👍

[@Peterbilt3794Life]

my stock Traxxas is spot on its speed at 60 mph

[@ButchiRC]

I love the runway, you have enough space to achieve the RC’s top speed. And yeah i agree, why do they have to lie about the top speed, like my wltoys 12428, they put in the box 95+ kmh, but i got 30ish kmh only on my speed test. I mean cmon, most of the ones who will buy these rcs are grown ups, not kids who will say, “wow 95 kmh, sheet i wanna buy one”

[@philhumber1534]

cars aside, i can't get my head around you getting that lovely tarmac to yourself. You must have pulled strings galore to get clearance for it !!

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, took a while... but as the saying goes... it’s not what you know, it’s who you know!

[@DriveTimeRC]

Got an abandoned dual carriageway by me

[@philhumber1534]

@@DriveTimeRC you lucky sod ! I've realised I can use the park and ride car parks near me in the evenings, relatively new. Just need to get a GPS cheap now.

[@grrfy]

I will always be calling it the Radish. As you were.

[@TomleyRC]

Radish 😎🤟

[@Iamsupafly]

How should I gear a model car im making into a drift type car or a drag car? I'm using an scx24 motor if that matters. Also RGT Adventurer Axles if that matters either.

[@TomleyRC]

Low gearing, how rpm would be how I would do it. So smallest pinion you can fit, with a nice high KV motor

[@shanemcclain8562]

U should try those 1/5 grps on the radix that's probably y the mojave was faster and try one of the bigger batteries..I got some lectron pros and the run time on my x maxx is crazy kind of off subject just thought maybe you could try them or maybe u have some

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, good idea!

[@ddubbs1453]

Love the videos, very nice runs. So jealous of that runway, such a perfect speed run location.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks mate. Yeah, it’s an awesome place to run

[@fladder1]

You're not supposed to measure it! You're supposed to accept it at face value! It does make an awesome sound passing by though!

[@TomleyRC]

haha... yeah, sounds good

[@CadgerChristmasLightShow]

Thats some bullshit that the stock tires cant handle the speed they put on the box. I bet they claim those tires can handle that speed but they clearly do not.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, although as mentioned by Aussie RC Playground... they had dirt on them and this was the 3rd or 4th time out with it, so that could have played a part. However... I have expected them to last a bit longer!

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

WLtoys seems to provide truth in advertising. 35mph all day in the 124019

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, they are pretty good now. They never used to be

[@liamsmith9954]

For starters putting on smaller wheels is going to dramatically decrease overall speed

[@domone1201]

Why does it take 6s to do the same speed as a rustler 3s. Looks awesome though

[@SpeedSyko]

Omg, you hit 90 with a wltoys? Wow!

[@TomleyRC]

It’s fast!

[@peters7413]

I miss you playing the rockcrawler computer game 😦

[@welshdave5263]

What game was that?

[@TomleyRC]

BeamNG... good game!

[@welshdave5263]

@@TomleyRC ah, I keep seeing that game around, I'll have to pick it up sometime.

[@strexttp]

My favourite car 🤩

[@imserious2187]

Very nice spot to stretch it out

[@jamesplymire5342]

Plain and simple, it's a sales gimmick. Every company on the planet does it in some way, shape or form.

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, I guess that's the reason

[@alanscofield8830]

Hello could you please help me, I have HPS XSTR BUGGY MODEL NUMBER 94107 PRO. I am having problems getting a metal front shock tower, my one bent after just hitting a parked car wheel at about 12mph. Also I need a set of front wheels and tyres. I've tried Amazon from shock tower 4weeks ago they said they sent it but I never got ?? So they are given me a refund. Many thanks Alan, PS I am new to R/C CARS , after many years.

[@aworkinprogress337]

GOOD SHOW BRUH !!

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@DoRC]

Arrma doesn't lie about their top speeds. Usually all that's required is a swap to the included pinion.

[@TomleyRC]

They were 3mph off on my Big Rock.... but agree, they are one of the better ones :)

[@DoRC]

@@TomleyRC yeah one to three miles an hour under is what I usually expect from arrma.

[@Nathan-qt2zi]

We're do you get grp's in the uk?

[@JohnLinnemanSpeed]

ive seen a stock typhon with bigger pinion and a tire change do 100 so

[@leegorman3329]

would this be ok for my first rc? i’m 41

[@FarmerFpv]

Those street tires hampered the top speed. You effectively lowered the gear ratio. With the stock tires and a true 100c battery it will hit 69mph. Not CNHL or Ovonic, or power hobby. They are cheap lipos. They have very low C ratings. Cheap Chinese lipo companies over inflate their batteries amp rating. They are to blame for most RC cars not hitting their box speeds. Using Reedy or my MAX amps lipos almost every RC I have purchased hit their claimed speed. A good lipo will cost you $180 to $250

[@butchmeister80]

This or the arrma typhon?

[@TTJ.616]

probably to get consumer attention :D

[@panzadeviborarc9613]

Yeaah! Nice lies!! Have a great day Bro! Nice test.

[@TomleyRC]

Thanks dude

[@ThatSwedishGuy]

Beasty animal, did it come unglued? Atb /Per Fb: Team corally bashers

[@TomleyRC]

Yes, just needed glueing back on

[@AussieRCPlayground]

Not sure your title matches the content... 🤔 Box says 70mph and you hit 70mph, so I don't see the "lie". Only thing I wish TC would do is include the speed pinion as do ARRMA. And I do remember on my very first Kraton review the truck came with a optional pinion included but you still had to buy another to reach the claimed speed. I mentioned that if any company was going to claim a speed on the box (to lure in buyers), then it should do that out of the box. From V2 onwards, speed pinions have been included in ARRMA cars and they reach or exceed the claimed speeds. In your case, you blew the tyre, but this was done after a bash video that may have damaged it and caused it blow during your run. Not just that, but I see the wheels are also muddy and that may have also unbalanced the wheels potentially causing the tyre to blow out. Had you done this test prior to bashing the car, I don't know if the same thing would've happened. Furthermore, you have changed tyres on a lot of cars to achieve certain speeds, including the Mojave in this video, yet I don't see you complaining about those changes. 🤔 With all that said, my tyres on the Radix6 blew out also during my bash video, so I'd more upset that in today's market RC car companies still can't use a decent glue on tyres, especially on fast cars like this. It's been an issue across various RC brands for years and very few have got it right. But to complain you had to use different tyres after you belted the car at you bash spot and had dirty and possibly damaged & unbalanced wheels as a result... I don't think you have much of a case there. 😏 Anyway, super jealous of your runway there and I'm surprised you're not using it to do massive 150mph passes with a Limitless or Infraction. Wish I had a runway like that near me. 😁

[@TomleyRC]

I've used the Radix as an example (I love the thing), but as I say at the start, and in the description, it's a common occurrence with most manufacturers. As for the 70mph..... I had to cut the gear cover, add a 22t Pinion (thats not included), and then change the wheels (even at 70, the stock ones would be useless as they balloon too much). So to slap 70mph on the front of the box is just a lot of BS. On their Website it says 60mph...so why the need to put 70? (The EXB Mojave is a Roller.... no need to prove any made up speed with that haha) I do agree about the tyre coming unglued, but still, you're not keeping that thing straight at 70 with them wheels/tyres. My Limitless is in progress.... as soon as the weather pics up, that thing is getting sent!!!! :)

[@orangeorange9353]

@@TomleyRC you did state all that just clearly trying to nit pick mate

[@alphawlff]

They do it to get more money.

[@rogueFactor]

because the 1:1 scale car Manufacturerrerereerererrs do it too.

[@jspence3798]

So lazy Phil. Them tyres off the Mojave would have fit 😂

[@TomleyRC]

haha

[@stormycannon8904]

Nice buggy

[@rufusyoungblood9274]

We love the truth 🫡💯🔥.

[@RCVOODOO]

I think you already know the answer to your question. Lol

[@xedieukhien]

*nice car speed*

[@deltazero3796]

Corally sicks in 1/10, all they can offer are lame 2wd monster trucks which main dufference is... motor and body. Brushed or Brushless. Kinda like, wtf... I expect them to release some damn decent 1/10 rc car, not some boring orange copy paste 3diff chassis. And why Manufactures lies about speed? Small ding dong complex? Just because it's FAST, doesn't mean it can steer with ease at higg speeds. And THAT should be selling point, durability, steering, not speed. The declared speed MUST BE ACHIEVABLE ON: *STOCK MOTOR, ESC and GEARING *STOCK TIRES, SERVO AND AERO SETUP This or they should simply gtfo with "speed resched in test conditions", my ass.

[@stevemdelacruz5602]

Wheels to small for 50 mph

[@carbonara7246]

Hi

[@TomleyRC]

hi :)

[@carbonara7246]

How r u

[@kdeyrc5788]

hello new friend RC 🚂🚂🙏😍

[@TomleyRC]

Hello

[@michaelwalford3558]

Wowww better than the typhon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mikes361]

Does 130 on 8s for sure

[@carbonara7246]

Yo ski

[@carbonara7246]

Hi tommley

[@jogo8502]

Offcourse your buggy will run slower when you put smaller tires !

[@TomleyRC]

You didn’t watch the video did you 😅

[@jogo8502]

@@TomleyRC no the first 30 secods :)

[@TomleyRC]

@@jogo8502 Well there you go then 😅

[@jogo8502]

Well yeah, offroad conditions are never controlable with 70 mph, my brother has the radix 4 and he can´t keep it in a a strait line in wet grass. Power is nothing without control.

[@wordreet]

Hehe, like Jaguar did about their original E-type in 1961when they only achieved their claimed 😎😎😎 150mph 😎😎😎, using a somewhat altered car. (no bumpers and some body smoothing tape over door closures and other malarkey.) LoL! So cheeky claims are nowt new my dude! 😁

[@TomleyRC]

haha yes, exactly that!

[@NCMOUNTAINSbackyardRC]

👍😎90 😀

[@mychalpstanton9188]

My 6s typhon mega eats radix for breakfast lunch and dinner Lmfao seriously soooook light evan with home made metal chassis protector

[@kellykuretich6366]

😁😁👍👍

[@drdoom6222]

Typhoon is poo

[@musaiqbal6104]

first

[@carbonara7246]

Nooooo u took my spot lol

[@philiplibby7536]

But I wanted to be first guys 😂jkjk