TommyInnit DEFENDS John Swan against Dream

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Ender PEKKA

Ender PEKKA

3 жыл бұрын

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All clips taken from @TommyInnit so go sub to him and his other channels @tommyoutit @tommyvods and @channelnutpig
#Dream #TommyInnit #JohnSwan
Ignore the rest of the description lmao :))
Dream SMP Lore aka Story - Tommy gets exiled by Tubbo and he betrays Tommy Innit and Techno Technoblade laughs at him and they start a new city log something. Yesterday Tubbo explained the whole Dream SMP in real detail. In the last video Dream uses FEMALE GIRL Voice Changer to troll and prank Tommy and Quackity. Also yesterday now Tommy and Tubbo and Quackity and Dream have lots of laughs on the Dream SMP and Tommyvods even speak to Tubbo Real Life Sister Lanu aka LanuSky ! Now, although this isn't a Vlog like Tommy met Wilbur Soot in Real Life, Tommy does speak to Dream's REAL LIFE Sister oops not Dream's but Tubbo's sister. It was so funny, fun, and crazy! POG CHAMP!!!!! it reminds me of the time when Tommy Spoke To Dream's Mom and dream sister Drista which was awesome and fun and POG CHAMP HAHAH
Not Minecraft, But Water Rises or Minecraft, But Lava Rises, or any other but challenge like that. This is a speed run / speed runner of Minecraft against a killer / assassin but it is Dream and I starting a group! POG CHAMP!
If TommyInnit hadn't been exiled, Wilbur Soot hadn't pressed the button and blown up Manburg, Schaltt hadn't been elected, Technoblade hadn't killed everyone at the Red Festival, and Pogtopia was never created, it might have been because Gogy had actually remembered to set his alarm for the L'Manburg election rather than building a house during the Dream SMP season finale that got robbed by Tommy and Ranboo. But to find out, you'll have to watch to the end. This isn't a VOD by Tubbo or Karl Jacobs, you can sit through it.
For anyone not caught up to speed, this is a new Minecraft but, 1.16 challenge, war edition. On the Dream SMP WilburSoot and Technoblade have created total anarchy in Dream's Minecraft Server. But before that, Quackity and GeorgeNotFound had the chance to rule L'Manburg. This is a riff on the events of the Dream SMP election and the Manburg / Schlatt era, also known as the Pogtopia Rebellion, the Manburg War, the destruction of L'Manburg, and is not to be confused with past events like the L'Manburg revolution or the festival or newer events like Tommy's exile with Ghostbur. Watching everything unfold from this new POV is insane, fun and funny! POG CHAMP!
Not Minecraft, But Water Rises or Minecraft, But Lava Rises, or any other but challenge like that. This is a speed run / speed runner of Minecraft against a killer / assassin but it is against Wilbur Soot's insatiable bloodlust and Karl Jacobs' need to be in the A plot. You might have seen when TommyInnit asked GeorgeNotFound VERY inappropriate questions, but George can't hear Tommy from all the way up on his throne now! POG CHAMP!!!
The DreamSMP is a server created by the Dream Team on Minecraft. People usually just play regular survival Minecraft but Wilbur decided he wanted to create a geo-political war. George on the other hand just wanted to build a Hobbit home.
TommyInnit was on DramaAlert lol so much Drama and Dream and Technoblade canceled just look at connor pugs channel

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@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
For people who didn't understand what was Tommy talking about: Basically, he is saying that people shouldn't care so much about meaningless Drama and doesn't think Dream talking about this in front of 300k viewers is a good idea. In the last few weeks he, Quackity, Technoblade, Ninja, Jschlatt, Eret, Slimecicle, and so many other KZbinrs which Tommy is friends with have been "canceled" and harassed so he probably knows how it feels when toxic stans harras you (not to say all stans are toxic, I'm only talking about toxic ones), so he can empathize with John Swan who he knows is going to get harassed because of this and even tho he doesn't know what the drama is about he knows it's not worth it. That's why he quit Twitter. And this was just one part of the stream but he was talking about this throughout the stream but he only mentioned it in a few seconds so I couldn't compile all the clips (I have school and stuff, that's why I'm not active too). Tell me if you think otherwise but this is what I got from Tommy's stream and from the context of his several past streams where he talked about Twitter and how he feels better without it and shit... But yeah, that's basically it. I think, this Drama is pointless in my opinion and even tho I think Dream is right I think it should have been resolved privately first.
@explicentg
@explicentg 3 жыл бұрын
Who else read a few line. Scrolled down to see how long it is and stopped reading.
@Realrealrealrealrealr
@Realrealrealrealrealr 3 жыл бұрын
the thumbnail and the title.... maybe change it?
@ms.unknown_potato5854
@ms.unknown_potato5854 3 жыл бұрын
No dream did tried to do it privately But He refused to Accept the truth and said it was his Best friends or brother
@hellogoodbye5195
@hellogoodbye5195 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine writing that for a very long time And I just read a couple of words then just scroll here
@imagination0000
@imagination0000 3 жыл бұрын
@enderpekka dream was't even care he just was a random hated dream subreedit and write the things that jon swan did with only 22 likes dude the fucking jon swan thread him in Twitter now who is over reacting
@willow-8597
@willow-8597 3 жыл бұрын
Actual title: Tommyinit talking about how twitter is being weird and toxic, and got worst since the pandemic.
@lynna5419
@lynna5419 3 жыл бұрын
Phew, I hate clickbait titles
@delta8584
@delta8584 3 жыл бұрын
@@lynna5419 this channel is only here for money, they don't care about the mcyt community
@TrevorLam
@TrevorLam 3 жыл бұрын
it was always toxic before the pandemic
@enaisberrios7482
@enaisberrios7482 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@joshuastevens3254
@joshuastevens3254 3 жыл бұрын
I mean he makes clickbaits titles and uses content that tommy says not to use so what do you expect out of this channel lol
@rosiehayton2918
@rosiehayton2918 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Tommy is defending him more like he has no idea what’s going on hah
@mooncrest1605
@mooncrest1605 3 жыл бұрын
true
@thekingadam6972
@thekingadam6972 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy. Just mad dream getting more twitch. Viwes jk
@quackhead5588
@quackhead5588 3 жыл бұрын
i think hes mad a dream and twitter yknow?
@theprotagonist9007
@theprotagonist9007 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekingadam6972 wtf is a viwes???
@ahumanperson1638
@ahumanperson1638 3 жыл бұрын
@@thekingadam6972 you do realize that this Tommy stream had more peak viewers than Dream’s drama stream😭
@outdatedbitfalls7654
@outdatedbitfalls7654 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't defending him, he just thinks Dream's overeacting.
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
yeah but how do you title that? he is defending john by saying dream is overreacting, just not defending him about the messages. Maybe the better title would be Tommy defends John Swan from toxic stans but I feel like that would make some people mad
@shah8283
@shah8283 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA just do "Tommy gives his opinion on the Dream and John Swan drama"?
@psych2460
@psych2460 3 жыл бұрын
@@shah8283 but he needs the views🤣 Desperate SMH
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
@@psych2460 It’s both defending and giving an opinion.
@imagination0000
@imagination0000 3 жыл бұрын
@enderpekka dream was't even care he just was a random hated dream subreedit and write the things that jon swan did with only 22 likes dude the fucking jon swan thread him in Twitter now who is over reacting
@kpediium
@kpediium 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even defend Swan. Defending him would mean agreeing with his side, which he never did. He just said that he didn’t even know the situation, which means he can’t take a position on the drama. He also said he didn’t care about the drama, which means he’s not defending either position, and he thinks Twitter is just toxic and arises drama that is unnecessary, which is true, but also doesn’t mean it takes a position in this particular debate thing.
@zylnexxd842
@zylnexxd842 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@elijahpautu1222
@elijahpautu1222 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody actually gets cancelled anymore these days, they just get called out by a bunch of angry twitter users, people read them, make videos about them, and then move on.
@k.a.r9876
@k.a.r9876 3 жыл бұрын
No one ever got canceled because cancel culture isn’t a real thing. Just bored people on Twitter with nothing to better. But nah people still get “canceled” today
@SWAHswah-tm7sn
@SWAHswah-tm7sn 3 жыл бұрын
@@k.a.r9876 that's what cancellation is right. People basically getting mad over nothing and then trying to and I quote 'educate' streamers or youtubers.
@_username
@_username 3 жыл бұрын
Free content i guess
@jacencade4019
@jacencade4019 3 жыл бұрын
And holy shit those videos suck
@GAMINGMINDYN
@GAMINGMINDYN 3 жыл бұрын
Yes given that dream is fool proven cheater it's all fine till you hsve big numbers and idiot stans
@marija6495
@marija6495 3 жыл бұрын
Heyy let's maybe not clickbait next time?? Or just change the title. Tommy never defended John Swan
@pengwin4595
@pengwin4595 3 жыл бұрын
He kinda did say that it was made a big deal out of nothing
@k.a.r9876
@k.a.r9876 3 жыл бұрын
@@pengwin4595 no he didn’t. He just stated his opinion on the situation. Not once did he say “I side with John etc”. He basically just said that internet drama is stupid and that Dream shouldn’t be doing this live. Then explained why he hasn’t been on Twitter. I don’t see why y’all trying to switch up everything he said and make more drama. The correct title should be “Tommy gives his opinion on the Dream & John Swan Drama” because that’s exactly what he did 😭💀
@pengwin4595
@pengwin4595 3 жыл бұрын
@@k.a.r9876 just because he didnt say "I agree with John" doesnt mean he doesnt. He said dream was wrong to do it like this so I see it as defending him. These clip channels are scum though
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG 3 жыл бұрын
@@pengwin4595 He doesn't think that either side is in the right, his basically neutral. But he does think that Dream overeacted a bit and should'nt of live streamed it, that doesn't mean he disagrees with Dream or agrees with John. Tommy just hates drama..which is kinda ironic since at first glance you would think he would be the one obsessed with drama and chaos.
@larrystowing2126
@larrystowing2126 3 жыл бұрын
@@pengwin4595 he literally said twitter is toxic and made 1 comment that dream is making to much of a deal about it but he doesn't even understand what's gone on
@rosescape2729
@rosescape2729 3 жыл бұрын
Okay listen, I really like your channel but the clickbait sucks. Tommy didn't even mention John Swan once by name, I watched his whole stream. He did not defend him. Tommy gave his opinion on the matter but didn't defend anyone.
@acairconditioning5666
@acairconditioning5666 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not defending Swan, so I don’t know why you said that
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
yeah he is, he didn't defend him in the drama but he defended him in terms of saying dream didn't have to "expose" him in front of 300k ppl and that he thinks dream is overreacting but you how do you title that?
@whybetrayerispoison5413
@whybetrayerispoison5413 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA ngl I thought the same thing as him but now u explain i really dk what id title it
@railixio
@railixio 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA just say "TommyInnit speaks on the John Swan drama" or something
@gregssausageroll8959
@gregssausageroll8959 3 жыл бұрын
@@railixio but that wouldn’t bring in the views though would it ???? Channels like this do it all the time and it’s quite sad tbh.
@railixio
@railixio 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregssausageroll8959 true. clickbait is ok as long as you actually promote whats actually in the video, you can exaggerate stuff but dont lie about the content lol
@helloitsme4265
@helloitsme4265 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that John Swan lied
@polandball1063
@polandball1063 3 жыл бұрын
Makes u think that tommy just believes anyone he wants without proof
@derpydude6932
@derpydude6932 3 жыл бұрын
When a child is more mature than both of them
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG 3 жыл бұрын
i just love how Tommy is so childish and silly but also so mature at the same time
@technobladeneverdies1931
@technobladeneverdies1931 3 жыл бұрын
true
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG 3 жыл бұрын
@Bread he is 16 years old and goes to college....yes.
@bruhsauce644
@bruhsauce644 3 жыл бұрын
@Bread in britain you can choose to keep going to school or go to college.
@nobody2352
@nobody2352 3 жыл бұрын
1 week later Dream was right. He was being mature. And John Swan lied and he admitted himself.
@Jeanjacket32
@Jeanjacket32 3 жыл бұрын
poor tommy, he defended him then turns out he was lying :(
@charlesbarkleygaming
@charlesbarkleygaming 3 жыл бұрын
He never defended him.
@reyuu3296
@reyuu3296 3 жыл бұрын
He was just saying he didn’t have to expose him to this many people and he was overreacting
@zaamerr
@zaamerr 3 жыл бұрын
I think the stream was mostly joking (the music, "detective dream", and just the way he spoke about everything) and I will admit he probably shouldn't have taken to Twitch, but overall it's really stupid that people are getting genuinely upset over this. Also please don't use clickbait like this, it could make some drama-obsessed people upset and try to go after Tommy.
@hellothere-sf1gl
@hellothere-sf1gl 3 жыл бұрын
I think that the title is more of a opinion as seen in the final part of the video
@loljay3281
@loljay3281 3 жыл бұрын
Dream with 18M subs with 30K views on that stream trash talking about a small creator knowing his fans will take this seriously and didn't even say "It is a joke please don't send hate" at the end or start. *Yup* A joke
@latmopawy
@latmopawy 3 жыл бұрын
@@loljay3281 yeah, Dream should atleast spread a message saying, "IMPORTANT: please don't attack anyone in anyway or in any shape or form." that would atleast solve smth imo, but hes just vibin and doesn't care at this point. (just saying my opinion.)
@omega-rh1ts
@omega-rh1ts 3 жыл бұрын
@@loljay3281 i mean it is ok if dream get trash talk but it is not ok if he defend himself cause his fans then will attack the person who attack dream ?
@loljay3281
@loljay3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@omega-rh1ts you ignored the point here. Dream didn't take care his "kittens" good enough. He didn't control them. So it is Dream's fault for having untrained community that will rage at other not talking good about him
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
Just to clear things up. Dream’s stream doesn’t tell us that John did it, BUT it gives us reasons on why Dream doesn’t believe John. In defense for Dream, If John ends up being right this doesn’t mean Dream is a bad guy because Dream just simply doesn’t believe him. It’d be dumb if Dream was cancelled just because he didn’t believe someone.
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
Dream said on his VOD that the “12 year old” wouldn’t have known about Harley. Well on AugieRFC stream on the situation. They found out that LtCobra (one of the people DM’d by the fake John account). Was talking to John about Harley and sent him screenshots. KEEP IN MIND THAT COBRA SENT JOHN THOSE SCREENSHOTS BEFORE HE WAS HACKED. IF the kid logged on John’s account the first thing he would see was the screen shots about Harley.
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
This explains how the 12 Year old knew about Harley and Cobra. You’re probably asking your self. “How did the kid know about the KZbin algorithm and Nicholas”.
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
John claims that he was teaching the 12 Year Old about KZbin, If the kid taught the 12 Year old about this stuff this means the kid knows about the Algorithm and TOS. There was also a drama that involved Nicholas so the kid most likely knew who Nick was.
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
This doesn’t mean that John is 100% innocent but this makes it likely that the kid actually exists and how he could’ve found out who Harley was.
@lilychily939
@lilychily939 3 жыл бұрын
I believe, if John Swan is innocent, than there is proof for that. Maybe not public, but if he could at least clear that woth Dream and Harley (probably get that kiddo responsible, saying sorry or smth) that should clear all of that. But making it public one year later, equalling forcong Dream to make a statement, seems kinda sus.
@DevZilla
@DevZilla 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even defend him. ULTIMATE CLICKBAIT
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
yeah he did, he didn't defend him in the drama but he defended him in terms of saying dream didn't have to "expose" him in front of 300k ppl and that he thinks dream is overreacting but you how do you title that?
@rileysearle371
@rileysearle371 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA just do "Tommy talks about his opinion on the Dream and John Swan drama?"
@DevZilla
@DevZilla 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA yea ig ur right sorry
@psych2460
@psych2460 3 жыл бұрын
@@rileysearle371 but that wouldnt bring the views to these Desperate channels right?
@rileysearle371
@rileysearle371 3 жыл бұрын
@@psych2460 true
@bust4010
@bust4010 3 жыл бұрын
He’s not defending anyone wtf are u talking about
@justsomelochnessmonsterony8265
@justsomelochnessmonsterony8265 3 жыл бұрын
I can see why people like Tommy more then Dream. He's a little, no a lot more rational then him.
@ellahauber6211
@ellahauber6211 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think that is the case, whoever made this video obviously didn’t watch either Tommy or dreams stream cause the title is not even close to what happened.
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG 3 жыл бұрын
and its the opposite in dream smp lmao
@user-du9on6wr8e
@user-du9on6wr8e 3 жыл бұрын
???
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG
@aWERFRGT6545BGFG 3 жыл бұрын
@@enderp_ IIm scared too but we got a few years before that happens...so thats good
@corksucker
@corksucker 3 жыл бұрын
Yo the dream stans really do be out here droves
@sedwars3616
@sedwars3616 3 жыл бұрын
no hate but this is a complete clickbait he didn't defend a swan
@tamunemiso179
@tamunemiso179 3 жыл бұрын
He's literally saying he doesn't know whats going and that it just sounds 'sus', so there's no point in taking this seriously people. He doesn't know what he's on about.
@tylerm7035
@tylerm7035 3 жыл бұрын
Bro this drama is so stupid lol
@celestricity1635
@celestricity1635 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about Twitter is that I only follow the CCs I like and timeline is clean Simple enough for me Just don’t go searching for this shit if it’s got nothing to do with you
@chikinonfrydai
@chikinonfrydai 3 жыл бұрын
This actually gave me more respect for Tommy. He’s just basically talking about how Twitter is weird and toxic.
@Anna-df2uj
@Anna-df2uj 3 жыл бұрын
but think about how John swan like almost ruined dreams whole career so dream had Ruhr right to do that- dream was also mostly joking with the music and the way he spoke about it. but also Tommy didn’t even really know what was going on so-
@alitteralnoob6239
@alitteralnoob6239 3 жыл бұрын
I think dream tommy and John swan making money right here ngl
@heyyheyy3407
@heyyheyy3407 3 жыл бұрын
More like Tommy trying to condemn toxic stans without getting cancelled
@LeclipsChannelAK
@LeclipsChannelAK 3 жыл бұрын
The whole "swan is a small youtuber getting harassed by the big dogs" is just a bad argument imo. Before dream made any response,the commentary channel community was literally on dream's neck. People that I respect for their takes in other situations were throwing around titles like "dream shows his true colors" and a bunch of other shit. So yeah,if Tommy thinks that dream genuinely shouldn't have done anything,I do disagree with that. That being said,I do agree that the drama was kinda pointless and dumb in the first place. Do want to mention though that there is definitely a forced exclusion of this(in context to dream and his mindset) 'drama' when people's only point is that the "drama is pointless". I was sitting there in the livestream of one of John's friend,Nicholas(great stream btw) deorio who defends John swan and even he brought this up that seeing so many "pointless dream drama" video one after another can get to people and dream has already shown it multiple times that he does infact watch small CCs videos and react to them. Another thing that I want to bring to the light is that dream literally had a "detective dream" skin,was playing various types of music,calling 2pixel screenshots '4k' in that same stream so yeah,anyone who was watching it and had any sense of comedy(which most people INCLUDING most stans do to some extent) would get that he was also being playful and not simply criticizing the guy. Also yeah lastly,Tommy isn't defending John swan.He doesn't know him. He is simply talking about the general idea of a 20mil subs youtuber caring about a 100k subs youtuber and criticizing them. He is an awesome CC with lots of great takes(especially as mature and chill people like Phil guide him about things) but he is also just 17 who hasn't really "fucked up" yet to come under proper critique by these channels. Most of the drama around him gets deflected onto the bigger and older CCs around him as he is a minor. People that have actually "fucked up" and thrown under the bus by these smaller commentary channels(cause if they do reply,these channels just bring out the victim card) be it Carson,PewDiePie,Dream and others,will obviously have a different outlook on these things. Especially in the pandemic where everyone including their haters are in a lockdown so they just keep harassing these people for their flaws. Think of how PewDiePie actually responded regarding the vtuber thingy even though in that same video,he talked about how small of a minority these haters are. They can get annoying nevertheless. To bring another example and the discussion back to the main point,when this was very fresh and dream was getting trashed,he was being dunked on for how he was insinuating that some of these people are clout chasers but then in the stream yesterday with John's friend,he calls 'Harley'(the one that in his opinion,'backstabbed' John) a clout chaser and his audience was just fine with that. (Though again,I do give credit for making it very clear that it's his opinion and not a fact and that this drama is more of a "he said/she said" atm and that probably wouldn't change.) All in all ,I do agree with Tommy in that there shouldn't be a stream criticising just a small youtuber(and with you if that's all you are saying) but I also think that Tommy (literally) and you(metaphorically) in how much effect these videos can have on Dream. You do not suddenly develop a mental barrier once you become a big youtuber. Especially in the case of dream who grew so big so fast,he isn't the most prepared in handling internet dramas. It takes years worth of time for people to grow chill. Even Tommy had a channel bigger than dream like 2 years ago(in the range of 50-100k subs I think) dream has gained like 16m+ subs in a single year. (Also a more biased opinion but Tommy also had the privilege of interacting with all these awesome creators at such a young age and is also better at improv than dream.) People think that dream acts like a 20m subs channel with a huge ego but I personally reckon that his problems lie in the fact that he sees himself as too small,not too big. He sees himself as a 100k subs youtuber that can argue against these channels,talk casually to fans/stans while others expect him to act like a huge channel and stay the fuck away from responding and shiz and only do it when his manager tells him to.(Even John has a manager I think.) Edit:Lastly yes,def noodles is a proper scumbag for calling John and his friends "alt-right" or some BS(though I kinda get where it comes from) and that keemsyar isn't a "nice guy" in anyway whatsoever. So yeah,I support dream but I don't supoort these guys.I watched keem's video through Nicholas' stream instead.
@kaiju9645
@kaiju9645 3 жыл бұрын
This is the single best take I have ever seen. I'd also like to add, good on Tommy for pointing out the whole "we've been inside for a year, we're quadruple as angry, petty, and mentally jaded as normal." I think that's a really good catch and a matured way to step back and look at the big picture.
@kaiju9645
@kaiju9645 3 жыл бұрын
@ben esterberg I don't think you have any right to judge his viewpoint when either you just didn't read what the man said, or took the absolute wrong thing away from it.
@turbosaucer
@turbosaucer 3 жыл бұрын
The disappointment on his face when he read out that message lmao
@xkimskix3141
@xkimskix3141 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t even know what dream was doing he wasn’t defending
@galehunter2519
@galehunter2519 3 жыл бұрын
Aged well.
@CeriseAurium
@CeriseAurium 3 жыл бұрын
Oh the irony...
@ms.unknown_potato5854
@ms.unknown_potato5854 3 жыл бұрын
He isn't defending him he don't know what's going on You should title it like Tommy giving his opinion on John swan and dream drama And in one comment you said He doesn't have to expose him but If you don't know He blamed Dream for saying the "N" word and having a *S-X mod* So yeah dream is defending himself
@heyyheyy3407
@heyyheyy3407 3 жыл бұрын
Swan was the one defending himself tho. They resolved this a long time ago in dms but Dream brought it into public out of spite. (Pls dont misunderstand, i like Dream but punching down is kinda fucked up)
@Swimmispini
@Swimmispini 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyyheyy3407 didn't john swan posy it on twitter first tho??
@heyyheyy3407
@heyyheyy3407 3 жыл бұрын
Sps SpinySpino No, Dream posted first on Reddit, only after that posted Swan on Twitter
@Albert_7
@Albert_7 3 жыл бұрын
More like gacha kids are cringey
@LeclipsChannelAK
@LeclipsChannelAK 3 жыл бұрын
@@heyyheyy3407 Dream posted it because John was slandering his fans/stans though and talking about releasing a video on Dream.(You could argue that dream taking 'offense' to that is dumb but at this point,these channels literally make some dumb,circumstantial dream expose video like once every 2-3 days,so someone was going to end yo getting hit by an opinion and John ended up being one here.) I mean just after John initially "called out" dream for his reddit comment,some really respectable channels like Omni had titles like "Dream shows his TRUE colors" and shiz. Even if dream decides to not watch the video and get more anxiety,you just can't argue that seeing titles like that wouldn't annoy you atleast. It was then that he gave his personal opinion about the guy. Dream didn't just decide to 'hate' on him for no reason. He just isn't on good terms with the guy and his opinion reflected that. So simply calling it "beating down" is a bit sus imo. On another note,that same comment,when someone said that this person was being 'baseless' in his slander,also had a reply by dream accepting that he has done things that deserve to be criticized so this person isn't baseless. He just doesn't trust him personally and had reasons to do so. All in all,it's an 18m subs youtuber with an opinion regarding a 100-200k youtuber and thanks to how internet is these days,people don't go,"Sure man.You may have your own reasons to believe this based on circumstantial evidence but I personally like this person." Instead,if they are more right than wrong,their opinion is held as a 'fact' and if they are more wrong than right,then millions of these drama channels decide to suddenly expose this creator for being the biggest scumbag in history or smth. Also as stuff like N-word came in discussion,the internet police also got in and fucked up the situation even more. Ultimately,all these channels including this one will end up making more money than losing and us dumbass normies with morals will be just left in the dark. Though yeah,probably the best course of action was to just ignore this and "get out" though sadly,thanks to pandemic,people can't do that and you end up with this.
@fishousee
@fishousee 3 жыл бұрын
Mans really just using the legendary axe of peace to chop trees
@kennedyweaver7590
@kennedyweaver7590 3 жыл бұрын
wait eret got cancelled? i don’t have twitter or any social media all i know is that eret hasn’t been streaming recently
@ConnorDrawss
@ConnorDrawss 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he hasn't, but I don't have twitter so am not sure. He's a nice dude tho, i don't see why anyone would bother trying to "cancel" him Hes probably doing other things then streaming
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
eret apparently said that he thinks dream smp is diverse enough when someone donated asking about more diversity in dream smp, and people took that clip and canceled him on twitter
@itsauguste
@itsauguste 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA Diversity this, diversity that, FUCK DIVERSITY. The people who are in the SMP are selected because they deserve it, NOT because of some stupid "requirement" to squeeze in as much random races as possible. I truly hope every single person in this planet completely ignores this Twitter garbage.
@ashleym6044
@ashleym6044 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA as someone who is poc and lgbt I wouldn't want to be apart of an smp because of what I identify as or my race. I wouldn't want the pity, I would want to deserve it. And Eret's right! If u want diversity then eret , Quackity, ponk, niki, skeppy, puffy, and antfrost are all right there. Also support more streamers that fall under the minority. People on twitter need to stop with cancelling people over bullshit like this.
@riz7855
@riz7855 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Twitter tries to cancel everyone every week over the dumbest shit, especially the Dream SMP members for whatever reason. It’s plain silly and anyone with common sense will see this and not take Twitter’s whines seriously. It’s crazy but that’s how it is. And honestly I feel like giving these dumb “cancels” more attention than they deserve by mentioning them and making videos about them (commentary channels) is just adding to the fuel and making them a bigger deal than they should be.
@denisikonomi2019
@denisikonomi2019 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sort of a weird situation because I get that John Swan initially didn’t want this to be seen as super harmful since it was probably just him and his friend having fun with the exception of calling people the n word. Because he did that, Dream has every right not to trust him. John should have just turned the other cheek when he saw Dream called him shady(and guess what, pretending to be him and calling people the n word and talking about a sex mod is what shady people do) John’s intentions weren’t exactly evil or anything but if you do stupid shit then you’re gonna have to face the consequences and he had a rare opportunity to leave the matter without facing any consequences and guess what, he screwed it up by making that Dream thread
@denisikonomi2019
@denisikonomi2019 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy didn’t really know the situation He just thought that Dream was making a bad habit of calling out small KZbinrs on Twitch and dedicated entire streams against countering their points Now obviously we know why Dream was doing those streams but in Tommy’s point of view it just looks like Dream randomly picking small KZbinrs to yell at on Twitch every other week lol
@enigmafiresup4658
@enigmafiresup4658 3 жыл бұрын
You say this like Dream is completely right, which is just completely false. The guy is notorious for lying. Let me guess, you believe Dream didn't cheat as well?
@denisikonomi2019
@denisikonomi2019 3 жыл бұрын
@@enigmafiresup4658 Actually, I do believe Dream cheated Especially after every value imaginable was thrown in his favor and it was still such a ridiculously low probability to the point where even the man he hired to defend him had to admit he probably modified his game lol The point I was trying to make was that the people who saw the stream know that it was Dream presenting his side of the story and case regarding his beef with John Swan and not just him attacking him
@ingloriousMachina
@ingloriousMachina 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy is a great deal more down to earth than Dream if you ask me.
@ihateeverythingpete1656
@ihateeverythingpete1656 3 жыл бұрын
You don’t know either of them so you can’t really say that
@user-yn7ko6te5j
@user-yn7ko6te5j 3 жыл бұрын
he wasnt defending him he was just questioning it
@AlexPerson
@AlexPerson 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: Child wants to get popular with getting clout for starting useless and unreasonable drama! :D
@francisdarin614
@francisdarin614 3 жыл бұрын
Wtf did u watch the video?
@vincentlim8555
@vincentlim8555 3 жыл бұрын
The most therapeutic thing anyone can do is blocking Twitter.
@generaldanger7458
@generaldanger7458 3 жыл бұрын
actually he was defending both of them to make sure they didnt get cancelled either way of how it turned out it seems
@ilicktrains8304
@ilicktrains8304 3 жыл бұрын
It's not him defending Swan, it's more like telling dream and twitter to chill
@garfieldsspaghetti
@garfieldsspaghetti 3 жыл бұрын
Dream stans were telling that Swan’s dead-from-suicide friend deserves it. Food for though for ya.
@wickedlovezlol1635
@wickedlovezlol1635 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT?! that's horrible....
@MooseMolestr
@MooseMolestr 3 жыл бұрын
bruh he left like 40 floating trees
@AkaObbies
@AkaObbies 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't defending he was giving his opinion. Also, the title has as aged badly lol.
@computercog14
@computercog14 3 жыл бұрын
Wassup , I love your channel man , your the best bro
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
@slother2488
@slother2488 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA misleation and a leeche
@shanewshal
@shanewshal 3 жыл бұрын
@@slother2488 yep
@erenejuji1675
@erenejuji1675 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA the title tho it’s wrong
@borchtrikavky
@borchtrikavky 3 жыл бұрын
Actually good job. For all the people saying "click bait" what do you expect from a small yt channel, he needs to sell his content somehow and judging by the number of views in like 15 mins it worked. And just a tip please always make sure to have full words in texts so you don't have b ecause. Much love
@lizasimpkins6033
@lizasimpkins6033 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy isn't defending swan, he even asked what was going on because he doesn't know the context
@mcmadness8384
@mcmadness8384 3 жыл бұрын
Outro kinda gives me star wars vibe with that yellow text. Is there kind of a war or something going on?
@lovedempeaches4658
@lovedempeaches4658 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, he's just saying that he doesn't care about either side
@infern0764
@infern0764 3 жыл бұрын
this doesn't aged well
@lanemo3413
@lanemo3413 3 жыл бұрын
Misleading title :/ could cause confusion to the people who only read the title which will cause unnecessary conflict because some youtuber said that Tommy was defending John Swan when he was just saying that Dream was being a little too overreacting and how twitter sucks
@rindokanade2465
@rindokanade2465 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t defend John Swan, he is just talking about how Dream is overreacting (or how he thinks he is) and is talking about the Twitter Toxicity, nice video but fix the title.
@northstarproductions3510
@northstarproductions3510 3 жыл бұрын
Big oops moment
@sophiacantswim
@sophiacantswim 3 жыл бұрын
it could have been so easily handled over dms
@norah7619
@norah7619 3 жыл бұрын
LOL sometimes i feel like he thinks like this bc he knows one day he’s gonna get cancelled for something he didn’t think/know was wrong and he is like putting himself in other people’s shoes
@airemchiaki9077
@airemchiaki9077 3 жыл бұрын
Yeaa...
@callenreesespuffs
@callenreesespuffs 3 жыл бұрын
tommy is so mature for his age and we all love to see it
@randolphongtangco
@randolphongtangco 3 жыл бұрын
He didn't defend John Swan🙃 change your title
@wyltyler5330
@wyltyler5330 3 жыл бұрын
i just dont understand how people brush over nicholas deorio who is literally... he ran the discord account
@brookie_pooh
@brookie_pooh 3 жыл бұрын
Bro I agree with Tommy, and I also agree with Dream But fr don't be stealing identities
@jxstmxlly3664
@jxstmxlly3664 3 жыл бұрын
I just think that dream is kinda overreacting *I'm not on anyone side the drama is just dumb*
@ms.unknown_potato5854
@ms.unknown_potato5854 3 жыл бұрын
No actully Swan blamed dream for having S-X mod and Saying the N word and Dream was being rude and stuff So dream was just defending himself Cause Twitter was canceling dream too And I think twitter should be banned
@littlesadeo
@littlesadeo 3 жыл бұрын
@@ms.unknown_potato5854 geeeezzzz🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ ffs this needs to end
@babboondaboss6386
@babboondaboss6386 3 жыл бұрын
@@ms.unknown_potato5854 That’s didn’t happen though, John Swan was blamed and was defending himself.
@caughtinthewebosu
@caughtinthewebosu 3 жыл бұрын
@@ms.unknown_potato5854 You're an idiot, Dream accused john swan of saying those things, john swan was actually saying that dream didn't say those things either, and neither did him because it was an impersonator. And john swan didn't even talk about dream before all this happened, those videos that you claim exist never got made in the first place.
@maccabs
@maccabs 3 жыл бұрын
@@ms.unknown_potato5854 you didn’t look into it right then it wasn’t swan it was some kid on his acc
@TheLonelyMoon
@TheLonelyMoon 3 жыл бұрын
dream: imma end this man's last cannon life right here ps I know tommy isn't technically protecting swam and hes right about the toxicity on the twitter, just thought its funny
@itsash8315
@itsash8315 3 жыл бұрын
Plot Twist: Awesamdude making Tommy get 8 stacks of logs and trying to get Tommy to break the axe of peace so he can't protect himself so Awesamdude can protect him and Tommy would have to call for Awesamdude whenever he is in trouble so Awesamdude can feel like a dad for once.
@Fab_Cat
@Fab_Cat 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel that dream just isn't used to his fanbase as going for 1 mil to 18 in just a year is way to much. I feel like the dispute with john swan could have been handled peacefully in private months ago if dream didn't talk about it on that subreddit.
@Aryan-vx1nw
@Aryan-vx1nw 3 жыл бұрын
Kid this such clickbait, he isn't defending him cuz he doesn't even know what is happening
@hells_xd
@hells_xd 3 жыл бұрын
This description...
@_thatsacoco._
@_thatsacoco._ 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy has no idea what is even happening or has information on the situation. He was confused.
@gamerstheater1187
@gamerstheater1187 3 жыл бұрын
I was very confused on whether this was just a simple miscommunication between the 2 or if Dream was a bad person. It was neither
@trollfacjata
@trollfacjata 3 жыл бұрын
When did he defend john swan
@jarvz_
@jarvz_ 2 жыл бұрын
dream stan be: _cancel him hahhhaha very funny we funny people hahahaha_
@marwaazizi509
@marwaazizi509 3 жыл бұрын
tommay said literally nothing about that
@tunaflop33
@tunaflop33 3 жыл бұрын
Goddamn change that title
@justanotheruser8068
@justanotheruser8068 3 жыл бұрын
Im not defending John Swan or anything but does he really deserve to be embarassed in front of so many people? Like yes he did wrong but i dont think he is never gonna be able to do things in social media under the same name without getting regonized Edit: Im not saying that dream is right and i believe him. I dont really know who to belive rn. We shouldnt believe dream blindly
@vlindermoeder
@vlindermoeder 3 жыл бұрын
i mean if he didnt want dream to respond to it he shouldnt have taken it to twitter, is was on reddit and it was seen by like 22 people before he tweeted about it and made it more public then it was. dream just came with the proof to shut down what was happening. if swan just dmed dream about it all this wouldnt have happened
@janae2576
@janae2576 3 жыл бұрын
Did dream deserve what happened to him either though
@EnderPEKKA
@EnderPEKKA 3 жыл бұрын
@@shah8283 yeah but that could be resolved privately first and if it didn't go well they could take it publicly, at least in my opinion, and I think tommy basically meant the same thing
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
@@EnderPEKKA We still DONT know if John did it. We shouldn’t jump to conclusions, all Dream did was make John suspicious.
@exoticpizza4863
@exoticpizza4863 3 жыл бұрын
Replied to the wrong guy but whatever.
@YGR12five7
@YGR12five7 3 жыл бұрын
Ironic
@brunoazanetti_
@brunoazanetti_ 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh dream reacts like a kid,he open streams just to hate someone
@liper3095
@liper3095 3 жыл бұрын
Uh oh
@KrishnanandKJ
@KrishnanandKJ 2 жыл бұрын
Well now John is unforgivable tbh
@moonyf1236
@moonyf1236 3 жыл бұрын
Dream didn't make a big deal out of the issue for a year. The reason why the drama resurfaced is because John Swan tweeted about it a week or 2 ago making it a big issue. I feel like John shoud've just kept it in the dark because in the discord messages the n-word was said according to keemstars interview with dream and john swan. I mean tweeting about it after a year is kind of the bad move here dude.
@moonyf1236
@moonyf1236 3 жыл бұрын
And as someone who posts these videos I feel like u should stay unbiased here because all u do is inform ppl of what happened and titling the vid "tommyinnit defends John Swan" is kind of misleading. Idk
@boii6569
@boii6569 3 жыл бұрын
Edit the title
@enigmafiresup4658
@enigmafiresup4658 3 жыл бұрын
Contrary to what people in these comments are saying, Tommy IS DEFENDING SWAN! Don't get that idea mixed up. Tommy knows first hand how immature Dream is with his influence, so of course he gets sick when he sees this happening to someone.
@a.f6960
@a.f6960 3 жыл бұрын
John went around saying that Dream is making a s*x mode and saying the N word (and also Skeppy is stealing codes). Dream has to defend himself. In case you didn’t notice these claims are harmful for their careers.
@slykanims5573
@slykanims5573 3 жыл бұрын
He never said the n word from what I saw
@vaasmontenegro9299
@vaasmontenegro9299 2 жыл бұрын
I do agree, even though John was guilty I still think dream didn’t really need to bring it up since I didn’t affect him
@Zaviidarling
@Zaviidarling 3 жыл бұрын
Dear, youtuber who posted this, he didn't defend anyone sincerely, most of the comments
@kartikjain6426
@kartikjain6426 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone explain me this cancelling thing as I don't use Twitter or Reddit pls
@quartzshake335
@quartzshake335 3 жыл бұрын
do not learn
@lisashananami2099
@lisashananami2099 3 жыл бұрын
just ignore any drama
@danielsama4711
@danielsama4711 3 жыл бұрын
tbh If it was me, I'll just do nothin. cus I would probably be too lazy to defend myself and don't have enough self esteem that would lower it more haha
@mr.dmp_gacha3172
@mr.dmp_gacha3172 3 жыл бұрын
Can we not mislead people- he was neither defending or attacking whoever the fuck that person is-
@foldduser
@foldduser 3 жыл бұрын
Im on john swan sides cuz impersonating is fun
@GooglyTree
@GooglyTree 3 жыл бұрын
hes not defending him lmao.
@kikirikiw
@kikirikiw 3 жыл бұрын
As everyone else is saying I’m here to say the same thing lmao as we should right? And no he isn’t defending That guy or whatever here
@rkay_bxzq
@rkay_bxzq 3 жыл бұрын
ironic
@manyatruegamer6351
@manyatruegamer6351 3 жыл бұрын
dream does not control his fans, he called out someone for doing something wrong
@Tigof_
@Tigof_ 3 жыл бұрын
And Dream wss right
@arjunvarmadatla4476
@arjunvarmadatla4476 3 жыл бұрын
Tommy does not realise that when dream added him to the dream smp he grew Tommy’s channel by 8 mill subs but Tommy is out there just hating dream.
@hauntedbythemusic4252
@hauntedbythemusic4252 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of people disagreeing with this video “dream stans”
@Hi-bb3ov
@Hi-bb3ov 3 жыл бұрын
I hate twitter because they believe the underdogs
@charlesbarkleygaming
@charlesbarkleygaming 3 жыл бұрын
Half the time that's not bad. Also that's not true. They littrally side against the underdog most of the time because they mindlessly listen to dream.
@wellifailed392
@wellifailed392 3 жыл бұрын
no one deserves having all of dreams toxic fan base attacking them and doxxing them because of personal drama with dream
@arjunvarmadatla4476
@arjunvarmadatla4476 3 жыл бұрын
And Tommy thinks that dream is overreacting cause Tommy does not care about the words John swan said but in real those kind of stuff ain’t great.
@katraydack341
@katraydack341 3 жыл бұрын
So the title is kinda misleading- Tommy isn’t DEFENDING John Swan, he’s just saying he doesn’t like drama and that Twitter goes off all the time. So Dream did seem angry and Tommy seems to not understand the full of what’s happening with it all. Which he states in the video, he just thinks that it’s dumb. He doesn’t like drama, which is fair. And with the “Dream isnt ruining someone life right?” I think he got that vibe because Dream was being so aggressive in tone during the stream. But yeah- I would say change the title to something like: “Tommy addresses the John Swan situation” Or “Tommy talks about current John Swan and Dream drama” Cause saying he defended John Swan is incorrect Edit: so yes he was saying Dream shouldn’t have exposed him in front of 300k people but at the same time taken out of what’s happening the title is misleading. It’ll make people think he’s defending him during the drama, Right now I stand by Dream just because elf the amount of facts he has. But generally it’s whatever to this point. The stans made it much worse than it actually is and Twitter per usual is handling this g r e a t.
@MicheleDelGiudice-mykys
@MicheleDelGiudice-mykys 2 жыл бұрын
People really complaining about click bait?
@ashleydelong8392
@ashleydelong8392 3 жыл бұрын
For how toxic Twitter can be I don’t blame Tommy for having a blocker on, I’d say anyone who has a big following should at least do it from time to time, can’t be good for mental health in some ways :/
@hollow9946
@hollow9946 3 жыл бұрын
Ender pekka instead of lying about titles and ripping from stream maybe make better content
@aki-uk6dr
@aki-uk6dr 3 жыл бұрын
iskreno izvuko si se balkanskog konteta👏👏
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