I'm having to film back in the Tiny Room against green-screen again, as lockdown means the Centre for Computing History is closed! Hopefully they'll be open again soon, although that depends on a very different kind of progress...
@tek16453 жыл бұрын
1 week ago?
@spywalkz13 жыл бұрын
Ohh HeLLo ThErE
@zelo1013 жыл бұрын
hi
@cheesecakeburger3 жыл бұрын
oh
@justanotherhotguy3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@PhoenixSC3 жыл бұрын
"There's 5 minutes and 10 seconds of video, and we've got through 1 minute and 24 seconds." - *checks* Holy frick.
@FarrelTTE3 жыл бұрын
Wait What? How the Frick?
@bedro_03 жыл бұрын
HOW
@mcvibing27853 жыл бұрын
Sup Phoenix
@JoeMoment3 жыл бұрын
Bruh
@arkanon86613 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing my subscriptions everywhere
@MidwinterMinis3 жыл бұрын
Good ol' floppy drives "3%.... 4%.... 98% DONE"
@CoderGautam3 жыл бұрын
hello verified person
@skyvorythings3 жыл бұрын
Hey, its my favourite 40k youtuber. Neat.
@josh_15183 жыл бұрын
You skipped the 2% after 98% but before done
@jupiter21423 жыл бұрын
Or netflix
@tparadox883 жыл бұрын
The store where I used to work would reboot the self service computer after every customer so it could restore the default state of the machine. The software it had to launch after the reboot used to be stupidly slow to load some process that takes the progress bar between 3% and 78% (like 5-10 minutes, or at least it felt like it when there was a line to use it) and then only a few seconds to complete, until we upgraded the computer to a faster processor and SSD, and then the progress bar would just already be at 78% by the time you could see one.
@achappel3 жыл бұрын
Knowing the exact video length a minute into a five minute one-take video is a solid flex 💪
@justcallmenoah57433 жыл бұрын
Honest
@m-th3 жыл бұрын
And also just casually mentioning the exact time you have currently spoken at the right time. Takes no effort at all, slap it in there!
@ROCK-rd3hs3 жыл бұрын
Well it didn't really matter on the take. Man's gotta adjust that in the outro though
@greentjmtl3 жыл бұрын
Probably just the camera screen flipped towards the front.
@gabedamien3 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing about the video! Though it's not exactly difficult, just needs a little prep (rehearsal + timer + note down milestones, or even better, code up a simple scrolling teleprompter with time display). Intro and outro clips also afford some padding for wiggle room.
@Sercil003 жыл бұрын
The last 1% always takes by far the longest. And the risk of the whole thing crashing rises exponentially as well.
@traceyguilbert79063 жыл бұрын
Love ur pfp axolotl my fav animal
@lethall66093 жыл бұрын
No the 99 does 😂
@BassandoForte2 жыл бұрын
It's called "the law of the sod"... 🤣
@BassandoForte2 жыл бұрын
It's the same law that dictates that if you're waiting for a parcel it will come at the latest they say - Unless you nip out, then when you come back they've just been... 👍🤣
@noredine2 жыл бұрын
@@lethall6609 That's what he said. "the LAST 1%"
@henrybarber2883 жыл бұрын
The most annoying thing is when it reaches 100% and then just sits there for another 3 days.
@ChrisD__3 жыл бұрын
Or at 0% for 2 hours... Very cool windows update.
@MrBluemoon743 жыл бұрын
Standard windows xp behaviour use to be sometimes: set the progress bar to 90%, then begin what you have to do, upon finishing set it to 100%. now with windows 10 we have those dots that fly in, do a slow circle and fly out again, over and over again.
@dsi-films12643 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisD__ This is scary true
@titaniumvulpes3 жыл бұрын
I once heard a web designer talk about how sometimes a progress bar isn't even truly a progress bar, it's just a code or gif image set to raise up to around 90-99%, swap to a different bit of code or image and display that until it's just about finished, and then swap to a third bit of code or image that displays 100% (this is most common on websites or video game loading screens but I'm sure some program installers do this too). The real trick to it is like Tom said, making it a little janky so it _seems_ like a real progress bar.
@iadtag18533 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisD__ At the very least, as Linus had pointed out too, they don't take that much time with the updates nowadays.
@10ON103 жыл бұрын
Even 0.1% movement of progress bar is a huge relief than it getting stuck for long...
@noeldoesthings3 жыл бұрын
So true
@benrgrogan3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person who places the corner of the mouse pointer on the progress bar when this happens? So I know if there has been any movement
@soupkitchen4673 жыл бұрын
@@benrgroganAll the time
@jvccr75333 жыл бұрын
@@soupkitchen467 you have to leave a space
@david.kizivat3 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry to inform you that sometimes the progress bars are explicitly coded to keep moving continuously at least a bit even when no job was completed since the "last big jump" of the progress bar. The "big jumps" are often when something has actually completed.
@thetasigma4123 жыл бұрын
*every programmer after trying to fix a small bug in their code:* “It’ll still probably be wrong, but it’ll be differently wrong”
@Pattoe3 жыл бұрын
I remember raising off a defect for a system I was testing where adding a discount of 50% to a service which cost £24 would instead increase its price to £48. In the next release adding a discount of 50% to the service which cost £24 decreased its price to -£26. Wrong in a different way.
@shaunkim50593 жыл бұрын
@@Darenz-cg9zg maybe it subtracted 50 from 24 (which would become 26) instead of 50% of 24.
@quixomega3 жыл бұрын
I'd fire a programmer who thought like that. If you don't understand why your fix works, it probably doesn't.
@JusteFantastico3 жыл бұрын
@@quixomega You are not a programming manager, then. At least I hope not. Sometimes problems in complex codebases are incredibly confusing so you try a hail mary in an attempt to fix it and it works. In an ideal world you can spend forever debugging and figuring out what caused an issue. In the real world, you have deadlines to deal with and something needs to work ASAP. It doesn't matter how.
@jcfiggy3 жыл бұрын
@@Pattoe From x2 to -50. dang.
@charper131263 жыл бұрын
I once wrote a small program for a department in my company and they didn't think it was good enough. I added a small progress bar to the front that literally just incremented a counter at even intervals and they went nuts for how robust I had made it and loved it. It was a 3 second loop that flashed a modal with the word "loading..." and a progress bar that did nothing but count to 100 by 1 and it changed the perception of the complexity. I eventually took that out, citing a performance improvement.
@karolakkolo1233 жыл бұрын
Big brain
@MowLawner3 жыл бұрын
Really goes to show how little the non-techies know about tech
@KF-zb6gi2 жыл бұрын
Anything animated is great🤣🤣
@GrimRize2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps not in your particular case but as someone who used to do a lot of programming for fun many moons ago, one word sums it up, 'feedback'. You'll know what I loathe if you are familiar with large commercial crap like SAP and anything designed around it for end user experiences which in my experience has little to none, or wildly unexpected or might as well be invisible user feedback. If you display something for more than a few seconds and it isn't immediately obvious what you should be doing, you failed with your GUI (assuming you have one of course). A lot of stuff has moved away from desktop software where I work and moved towards web front ends, oh god how terribly slow, fails a lot, has little to no feedback, half the time you only know something has worked or is working purely because you have sat through nothing happening so many times and confirmed the data via another method that wastes even more time..... and i'm ranting hahahaha!
@samwinchester78442 жыл бұрын
@@MowLawner It's called providing a good user experience. If you make the user wait with no indication of what's/if any is happening, they will hate it.
@yuvalne3 жыл бұрын
Personally my favourite kind of progress bar is when there's two progress bars: the top one showing the progress of the overall process, and the bottom showing the progress of each individual task. That lets you actually see why some bits take longer, and in my opinion gives you a better approximation of the time left.
@kjdude87653 жыл бұрын
Loved that in older installers. Very informative and reassuring!
@derdarkl28903 жыл бұрын
And in some cases help you with troubleshooting if somerhing crashes while loading :D
@simontay48513 жыл бұрын
Thats good because you can actually see what is or isn't happening.
@joweber74923 жыл бұрын
The only specific program I know that does that is WinRar while unpacking
@IceMetalPunk3 жыл бұрын
@@derdarkl2890 As opposed to things like Limewire (remember Limewire?), whose loading screen had "steps" like "Scouring New York City for limes..." Which maybe the developers knew what it was actually doing at that point for debugging, but it means nothing to anyone else.
@i-win3 жыл бұрын
Can't explain the fustration of things getting stuck at 99%
@mixxed_nuts3 жыл бұрын
Then be prepared for the frustration of it being stuck at 100% and nothing happening
@Iucebowel3 жыл бұрын
Then be prepared for the stuck of it being at frustration 100% and happening nothing
@altrag3 жыл бұрын
@@mixxed_nuts Or 101%. Always know you're in for good times when you see that :-/..
@iexplainjokestomakethemles15603 жыл бұрын
@@altrag i hate when my game loads 101%
@Fish-bt4c3 жыл бұрын
@@altrag oww that physically hurts to see
@STATESZ3 жыл бұрын
everybody gangsta till tom scott tells the exact length of the video in advance
@brunnomenxa3 жыл бұрын
Here the video has a delay of approximately 0.5 seconds of the real value.
@adamrezabek94693 жыл бұрын
nah, much better is saying nothing to user, freezing and eventually dropping BSOD
@sharktacos3 жыл бұрын
I KNOWW
@rosk31703 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂 so true
@davidmachado1323 жыл бұрын
@@brunnomenxa Maybe the computer calculated it wrong, cant trust those
@greedthenyavaricious2 жыл бұрын
My absolute favorite thing is when loading time estimates spit out stuff like "infinite" or "96 years." I don't see it happen as often anymore (and it's also unhelpful) but it's hilarious.
@@plumjet09 "2 seconds remaining" it says for a full 5 minutes. XP
@birdandcatlover55972 жыл бұрын
I never minded those, since they were so amusing
@TarunoNafs Жыл бұрын
Oh, a dead torrent file will guarantee you that experience. The feeling when you see that infinity sign...
@thezipcreator Жыл бұрын
infinite probably happens because of floating point
@GadgetAddict3 жыл бұрын
I remember in my younger years when reinstalling Windows Me on a borked computer. And we'd put a piece of tape on the screen to mark the progress bar position, to see if it was really moving.
@bsvenss23 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Good one.
@jcfiggy3 жыл бұрын
Verified = Likes. Watch.
@ansilnaseem3 жыл бұрын
@@jcfiggy Verified comments > Verified comment mocking reply. There is nothing wrong if the person is verified or not
@igorchistyakov88763 жыл бұрын
Good times.
@redsquirrelftw3 жыл бұрын
I always put my cursor where the line is and see if it moves haha.
@Azeria3 жыл бұрын
“Why can’t they just tell you how long something will take?”- Because they don’t know.
@lmao74543 жыл бұрын
Or they can calculate time but it's like "10 years left"
@lemonlattez3 жыл бұрын
@@lmao7454 2 minutes left...30 minutes left....1 day left.... 70days left..... 148 Years left.. 30 seconds left.. DONE!!!
@lmao74543 жыл бұрын
@I WÅNT ŞĖX !!! SĖĖ MY VIDEÓ !!! what are you ._.
@Ansh77K3 жыл бұрын
@@lmao7454 abomination of mankind
@mitaalishukla3 жыл бұрын
@ʜᴇʟᴘ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴅɪɴᴏ ʀᴇᴀᴄʜ 1 ꜱᴜʙ. Awwww! I choose to believe there's some good in humanity and that you're not just spamming. Happy Birthday, and I subbed.
@jamesplaysgameso5943 жыл бұрын
The bar: *goes to 99% instantly* Also the bar: *Takes 5 hours to finish*
@tofifichannel71993 жыл бұрын
Not gonna ruin it its in 111 like, not gonna like it cus its 111 not gonna break the chain. Because then it’s 112.
@ZenthosSohtnez3 жыл бұрын
@@tofifichannel7199 You good?
@deusvacui3 жыл бұрын
@@tofifichannel7199 now its 222
@Starfighter_Cookies3 жыл бұрын
@@deusvacui I ruined it sorry
@hashishiriya3 жыл бұрын
@@tofifichannel7199 dude, it's 699 now... i definitely can't like it
@8stormy5 Жыл бұрын
My old internet setup was extremely prone to dropping connections temporarily, and it was really funny watching "time remaining" estimates steadily climb by several days of time before suddenly jolting back to a few minutes
@brainwater176 Жыл бұрын
Had satellite internet limited to 10 gigabytes before. When it ran out it reduced to dial-up speed. A download once shot up to 4 years.
@God-of-canine Жыл бұрын
So one day I was using my dell Inspiron 15 3000to download a steam game called world of tonks, it went like this from one hour to hour five hours three days 365+ more than a year. (It took a day and a half to install)
@calcutt4 Жыл бұрын
One time not very long ago I was updating a steam game, the estimating time remaining started at 5 minutes and steadily increased until it said "more than one year", before going back to 20 minutes
@justinian-the-great3 жыл бұрын
If good old internet explorer taught me something, it is that progress bar is also capable to go to 100% and then return back to 99% and stay there for like 5 hours.
@Vinni-2K3 жыл бұрын
bruh
@mfThump3 жыл бұрын
winrar showed me that a few times
@0_-3 жыл бұрын
you're an old interneter
@brojoe443 жыл бұрын
When you're clicking it wondering wtf and "Explorer.exe has stopped working"
@brojoe443 жыл бұрын
At least little kid me was smart enough to just rerun explorer.exe when my taskbar and stuff disappeared
@antonklettert3 жыл бұрын
"It'll still probably be wrong, but it will be differently wrong" has to be my favorite tom scott quote
@3dlabs993 жыл бұрын
its a much more pleasing kind of wrong
@atomickoala623 жыл бұрын
Sheldon: More wrong? Wrong is an absolute state and not subject to gradation. Stuart: Of course it is. It is a little wrong to say a tomato is a vegetable, it is very wrong to say it is a suspension bridge.
@VictorLima-mv4ni3 жыл бұрын
Tom scotte quot
@deanmoncaster3 жыл бұрын
The one thing that should never ever ever be displayed on a PC is "100% complete. Please wait"
@dave29803 жыл бұрын
But fr I get this a lot and it just doesn't make any sense. How is it 100% if I still have to wait like 1/4 time of the whole thing more.
@bilib18913 жыл бұрын
Because 99,5% is rounded up. DUH!
@dominicarmesiniataide99683 жыл бұрын
@@dave2980 rounded up
@lordsiomai3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Defeats the very purpose of progress bars
@anantkharade1193 жыл бұрын
Man's waited 5 years to download a game
@chipchip3 Жыл бұрын
I feel like not enough people are showing appreciation for the timing skills he did for 1:24
@B4NDIT_12 Жыл бұрын
Woah wow he can read time from his camera
@chipchip3 Жыл бұрын
Killjoy
@NicoPlyley Жыл бұрын
@@B4NDIT_12 Also I doubt the video started rolling the very second he started speaking so he has to adjust for that too
@realAwesomeX Жыл бұрын
@@B4NDIT_12 how would he know that its 5:10 long tho
@wanganeu Жыл бұрын
@@realAwesomeXWell you don't have to be a prophet, just cut and edit it accordingly - maybe that's why it cuts mid sentence in the end 😂
@marcel1513 жыл бұрын
Progress Bar: Seems to be stuck. Me: Putting the cursor just right on the end of the bar to see if it's still running.
@MouseGoat3 жыл бұрын
Progress Bar process to get stuck because the mouse is blocking it
@MarcosRobertoDosSantosJF3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! I do that too!
@kaylag50433 жыл бұрын
Omg ur stupid. If you put the mouse there it's gonna be in the way of the progress bar!
@softis5star1103 жыл бұрын
I can relate, I also do that.
@enemdisk66283 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@LRC923 жыл бұрын
I love it when a simple download says "2 years remaining" or "∞ time remaining".
@wolfsyncc3 жыл бұрын
"brb gonna download a game" last seen 2 years ago "yo bro downloaded that game, what did i miss?
@oofers99393 жыл бұрын
@@wolfsyncc you missed my funeral
@Aeternus753 жыл бұрын
@@oofers9939 wait then who’s speaking-
@IIiiiLiiOiiIii3 жыл бұрын
@@Aeternus75 my funeral
@placeadrien55663 жыл бұрын
@@wolfsyncc that's what my father said to me never came back
@AuthenTech3 жыл бұрын
Wow, kudos to knowing the exact length of the video WHILST filming..
@electron82623 жыл бұрын
That's the perk of filming your video in One Take™
@1xeshm3 жыл бұрын
@@electron8262 you put a timer behind the camera and when you reach the point you just glance at it and say the time it displays. Cool trick nonetheless.
@thetipsysparrow95523 жыл бұрын
@@1xeshm Still had to know how long the whole video will be though, a timer behind the camera can't tell you what the time will be in the future for an unknown video length. Combination of editing start and finish to make sure it fits and rehearsals are the only ways I can think of to do that live
@gabormiklay92093 жыл бұрын
Editing can do magic.
@gavintantleff3 жыл бұрын
@@gabormiklay9209 buuuuut it’s a one take, so there’s no cuts...
@Xs2...2 жыл бұрын
I remember from some games, that they would have an installer that had: a blue progress bar with a percentage. And on the left side of the screen would be three additional bars for showing you what each step of the installation was doing. So a bar for disk usage, etc. That was far more informational then just one bar with or without an ETA displayed. (Windows 95/98 era).
@nedmurry2 жыл бұрын
The Epic Games Store still does that. It gives my eyes something to do while a game installs/updates.
@zombiekiller71012 жыл бұрын
@@nedmurry lmao same
@FoolsJest2 жыл бұрын
Lemme get ANOTHER quick shoutout to WInrar the GOAT
@ahmed43632 жыл бұрын
@@nedmurry A point for epic games. They just gotta compress their files like steam does because i dont want to download 30 fricking gigabytes just to make games if i fan just downloaded 3gb instead from Unity
@celestialtree8602 Жыл бұрын
While it's not quite similar, Minecraft's Forge Mod Loader also tells you what it's doing; specifically, it has multiple progress bars, in increasing levels of detail, each with a step count. One for the main 7 or so steps of loading, then one for what it's doing within that step (i.e. loading a specific mod), then a third for what it's doing within that (i.e. loading individual textures).
@brunoliddle3 жыл бұрын
"It'll still probably be wrong, but it'll be differently wrong..." - this sounds like almost every single update to every piece of software that ever existed.
@3bigbignig-abandoned3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@vigilantcosmicpenguin87213 жыл бұрын
And a cause for celebration for the software developers.
@baby3333 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha
@HandledToaster23 жыл бұрын
Every programmer trying to bugfix :(
@0_-3 жыл бұрын
@@HandledToaster2 true
@taylorhancock58343 жыл бұрын
“It’ll be wrong, but it’ll be *differently* wrong” -Tom Scott
@ponypapa67853 жыл бұрын
few things are better than causing a *different* error than before. specifically when a lot of time has been spont on that one error
@Spikehead7773 жыл бұрын
Sometimes I'd rather have something be differently wrong. Usually it means I did something to change the outcome and that potentially leads towards success.
@SuperPlayz3 жыл бұрын
I love it when it takes 2 seconds to go from 0% to 99% and 1 hour to get to 100%
@treehugger87903 жыл бұрын
cough cough* steam installations
@65E3 жыл бұрын
I know
@gl1tche3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah
@williamaydelotte64203 жыл бұрын
Same
@LostToSpace3 жыл бұрын
@@treehugger8790 fr steam downloads in a nutshell
@christopherbedford98973 жыл бұрын
Windows 10's updates take "meh, good enough" a little too casually though. It can sit on 21% for three-quarters of an hour then jump to 81% for 15 minutes more and then 98% and done in a few seconds. I suspect they decided to only update the progress bar after completion of (e.g.) each file installed, and that in the above scenario there are some really huge files that are complex to install and a few smaller / simpler files after that.
@BassandoForte2 жыл бұрын
When it forces a U2 Song virus on you - no wonder it takes ages... 😪🤣
@OLBastholm2 жыл бұрын
@@BassandoForte That was not Microsoft. That was Apple (on the iPhone, I think). And why would it have anything to do with a virus?
@BassandoForte2 жыл бұрын
@@OLBastholm - Did you want it? Did it take up pointless hard drive space..?? And no - it was Windows 10 although Aople is just as unethical... 🤣 That's why I use Android... 😝
@vinson37252 жыл бұрын
@@BassandoForte pointless? updates are there to keep your devices up to date with anti viruses, security and patches, i don't understand why people have a problem with Windows updates, it barely takes any time for me
@BassandoForte2 жыл бұрын
@@vinson3725 - So you're happy they forxe pointless things like U2 tunes onto your PC..?? 🤔🤣
@a_blind_sniper3 жыл бұрын
My favorite progress bars also have the optional "Details" feed that prints what's been happening. Seeing a lot of text print really quickly gives a satisfying indicator that "things are happening!"
@doomse1503 жыл бұрын
If the detailed log is really detailed, this could actually slow down progress, because displaying stuff on screen also takes time
@pacifico49993 жыл бұрын
@Ezequiel Ciamparella it will take the same time with dummy text or meaningful text. Printing on console is the slow part, if you do it too much.
@doomse1503 жыл бұрын
@Ezequiel Ciamparella What Pacífico said
@ABaumstumpf3 жыл бұрын
@@doomse150 Depends - but just 1-2 lines per Second will have no noticeable impact unless you are really really bad at your job (or a web"developer").
@MrTyrellcorp3 жыл бұрын
@@ABaumstumpf 1 or 2 lines in a loop can really slow things down tho
@FilmscoreMetaler3 жыл бұрын
The worst kind of progress bars are the ones that roll in a circle infinitely and it doesn't really mean anything. Sometimes the installation process freezes forever but the animation is still going.
@arthurmoore94883 жыл бұрын
That's not a progress bar, it's just a dumb animation. Still better than nothing, but not by much.
@hoodiesticks3 жыл бұрын
I believe the term for that is "Spinner". Ideally they should be used for tasks that only take a few seconds, because displaying a whole progress bar for something so short wouldn't be worth it.
@Bentroen_3 жыл бұрын
@@hoodiesticks Actually, the point of them is to indicate a task that will take an indefinite amount of time, e.g. when you're downloading a file that you don't know the total size of.
@CorelUser3 жыл бұрын
they're there so you can tell whether or not the application has frozen and/or stopped working
@ZVLIAN3 жыл бұрын
Windows installation
@angelogandolfo41743 жыл бұрын
“.... and 24 seconds.” Smack bang on the 24 second mark. Now THAT’S attention to detail........
@feronanthus97563 жыл бұрын
Or padding out the necessary time with the intro
@igorchistyakov88763 жыл бұрын
@@feronanthus9756 one does not contradict the other, tbh.
@beast1234653 жыл бұрын
I’m shook on how accurate this was
@RyanSandberg2 жыл бұрын
As someone that has actually coded a very basic progress bar before, yes. It's near impossible to make it smooth, and yes, my answer was exactly the same. It shows that it's making progress and not frozen, and that's all that really matters. I have a new respect for progress bars after trying to make one actually function, and I had tutorials to figure out how to do it.
@Cypeq2 жыл бұрын
It's not very sophisticated to increment value by a little every time something completes... Estimating time is whole can of worms.
@dagoberttrump92902 жыл бұрын
How about a neural network that learns from different machine settings how long tve overall process is going to take
@Great_Olaf5 Жыл бұрын
I mean... How effective is it at showing that there is in fact progress going on when it sits unchanging at 25% for two minutes before racing all the way from there to 68% in less than two seconds.
@VivekYadav-ds8oz3 жыл бұрын
Petition for Tom Scott to re-edit the title and fill the progress bar slowly every day.
@NetheriteMiner3 жыл бұрын
this is the this many views video all over again
@SKyrim1903 жыл бұрын
I had a fleeting impression that it was increasing along the video and got paranoid observing if there was some sort of magical trickery going on...but, no...just a normal title
@dottyman72513 жыл бұрын
petition signed (and I'm the 68th person to like your comment)
@JBLewis3 жыл бұрын
Mark Rober just a similar thing with his Mar Rover Perseverance intro video, each day the video was re-titled counting down to the landing.
@WarrenGarabrandt3 жыл бұрын
No, it will get stuck where it's at for 6 months, then suddenly finish.
@Hanyamanusiabiasa3 жыл бұрын
"The download will complete in 5 minutes." "I mean 10 minutes" "I mean 99 days :O" "Download complete"
@josedevgd95663 жыл бұрын
I know 100% what the guy above is saying
@sauce48973 жыл бұрын
@@josedevgd9566 smol brain
@Kangahrooo3 жыл бұрын
@@sauce4897 yes
@imjustaguy43403 жыл бұрын
The ps4 allwes starts at like 7 hours and gose to 20 mins (i like watching that tho its sayisfying)
@Extremezotako3 жыл бұрын
LMAOOOO
@choozu3 жыл бұрын
Checkout lines at the supermarket ARE the real life progress bars. You think that they're only a couple of shoppers ahead of you remaining but then one of them spends eons on counting their coupons and/or "remembering" to get one more thing and disappearing into the aisles!
@Milamberinx3 жыл бұрын
Did they have to take a boat to get to the isles?
@stevencraeynest77293 жыл бұрын
or the cashier's shift ends suddenly
@geshtu17603 жыл бұрын
Exactly - and wondering whether to switch to a different checkout is like deciding whether to cancel the download and try again from a different server
@dananskidolf3 жыл бұрын
All these things sound like problems from back in the "human cashier" days.
@canis_lupus22203 жыл бұрын
@21st Century Socialist Cannot happen here, because every scanned item needs to go into the weighing area before it lets you scan the next. But I agree, I take longer at the self-checkout than a trained cashier would take to mark my items. So the waiting time becomes an important factor when choosing between the two options.
@slimydroid3 жыл бұрын
I found this very interesting. My job is a performance test analyst, and we often find that performance issues in software is not the software itself, but the users perceptions of it. Have a user wait for something to happen with nothing going on, instant 'its running slow' report. Add a spinner, progress bar, literally any user cue that something is still happening and they'll be more tolerant. The software could actually be slower because it has to deal with updating the screen as well as the job it's trying to do, but users will be happy about it.
@jeffreytenthije3 жыл бұрын
The progressbar type I hate is the quick or smooth type, but just takes forever to confirm the last % because it skipped all of the other 99 bc of the smoothness
@Noone-of-your-Business3 жыл бұрын
YES! YES! YES!!!!
@tomihawk013 жыл бұрын
Search in Windows Explorer does this and I hate it.
@Henning_S.3 жыл бұрын
Windows Updates do this
@spaghetticoconut6583 жыл бұрын
I once had Steam tell me a game wouldn’t finish downloading 4 years from now. It’s been 5 years. Steam, where’s my game?
@zeinab92223 жыл бұрын
you got it yet?
@user-ty2fm3ge9m3 жыл бұрын
You went 5 years without restarting your computer once?
@theuselessteammate20973 жыл бұрын
Is there some sort of r/missedthejoke
@maikeru51873 жыл бұрын
Dang steam still hasn't given you your game
@HL1_EP13 жыл бұрын
@@theuselessteammate2097 r/woosh
@daniellefreyaold60993 жыл бұрын
I like it when they include something like a "3/16 modules loaded" or scroll names of current operations in plain text ( more common on linux machines) its a much more tactile sense that the machine is continuing to work, and seems a little more reassuring.
@sulevturnpuu54913 жыл бұрын
And then the Everquest progressbar started telling things like 'Attaching beards to dwarves.'
@Hxrb3 жыл бұрын
I've seen a post about someone complaining that "Their apps (or website, I forgot) tooks forever to load" and the company decided to do nothing except adding words like "Processing File (abc)..." and "Rendering assets (123)..." under the bar. The same customer said that the loading screen are now faster than before HAHAHA.
@whatis42953 жыл бұрын
@@Hxrb One of the beauties of UX. Just add in something to look at and the program appears to be more responsive. It even works for people who knows how that trick.
@fissure2563 жыл бұрын
@@sulevturnpuu5491 Or the classic "reticulating splines" from SimCity 2000
@lukmly0133 жыл бұрын
@@whatis4295 Yes. Like turning on Linux machine. How it feels normally: 5 minutes How it feels when I hit arrow: 10 seconds
@Adulf472 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who asks right questions and gives precise and short answer in a concise manner - KUDOS to you mr Tom!
@heck_n_degenerate9403 жыл бұрын
You always gotta love seeing “ETA: 11960 hours 28 minutes 54 seconds”
@0_-3 жыл бұрын
What does ETA mean?
@heck_n_degenerate9403 жыл бұрын
@@0_- ETA stands for estimated time of arrival, in this case it’s the amount of time the computer thinks will take for something to download.
@brethebird31483 жыл бұрын
37 seconds later *task complete*
@wesleymays19313 жыл бұрын
ETA 2147483648 hours
@Penguinking94663 жыл бұрын
Or like 99+ hours
@micahy.61903 жыл бұрын
"Imma just let this update overnight" *Goes to sleep... Wakes up... Opens laptop "Would you like to install this device software?"
@jcfiggy3 жыл бұрын
:/ i hate that
@ayxnzr3 жыл бұрын
UNDERRATED COMMENT
@the.abhiram.r3 жыл бұрын
or when windows crashes and updates the computer anyways. AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING.
@stirfryjedi3 жыл бұрын
"Press okay now to confirm installation." 😭
@kabochaVA3 жыл бұрын
sudo dnf update Whenever _you_ choose to update...
@ngaswithadditude3 жыл бұрын
* progress bar moves smoothly * *_something's wrong I can feel it_*
@jayageorge42783 жыл бұрын
Where is the n?
@muratkaanmeral21853 жыл бұрын
just a feeling i've got
@ngaswithadditude3 жыл бұрын
@@jayageorge4278 I dunno,
@mvl82093 жыл бұрын
Windows Troubleshooter feels targeted by this comment
@Revel0052 жыл бұрын
I am a computer security expert and you make a very good point about smooth progress bars representing something potentially malicious. Good stuff!
@theaidanator3 жыл бұрын
how you managed to time this single uncut monologue and casually describe the exact length of the video is a subtle nod to the pre production behind these videos. Great job as always Tom and team!
@wariolandgoldpiramid3 жыл бұрын
I don't even understand how they managed to pull it off.
@Megaranator3 жыл бұрын
@@wariolandgoldpiramid they used very good estimate and then they can hide the few seconds of error behind edits.
@Rei-Rei3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Tim Minchin's Three Minute Song
@Josh-ui7nq3 жыл бұрын
The outro had some leeway when it cut out, also the endcard could be increased/reduced. Also practice
@michaeljones56813 жыл бұрын
@@Josh-ui7nq yes the Tom loading screen could also have been cut out if really that close
@shmup29233 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the 2000's , the bars had little reference and animation. So I would put my cursor lined up with the bar to see if it was moved.
@igorthelight3 жыл бұрын
+1
@ardenkel11273 жыл бұрын
Waaaay before that. I did it in Norton Commander days...
@johnme603 жыл бұрын
yup😂😂 , I did the similar , I used to remember like: " it was below the letter "e" , now it has moved from there.
@clockworkkirlia74753 жыл бұрын
I remember doing the same!
@kirishima6383 жыл бұрын
Haha same
@jbtechcon74343 жыл бұрын
"Are you done?" "No." "When will you be done?" "I won't know until I'm done."
@thunder_bird00123 жыл бұрын
.
@varindred3 жыл бұрын
..
@Shadhooe3 жыл бұрын
....
@lucianomachado83453 жыл бұрын
.....
@parcivalnayuta3 жыл бұрын
......
@seyoch Жыл бұрын
I don't know how many people will fully appreciate the fact that you knew in this long take exactly how long the video was going to be and mention exactly where in the video you are to the second. But with having a video editing background myself, oh boy, did I appreciate that! Well done! I loved it.
@Bentroen_3 жыл бұрын
Google Chrome has once shown me "8 years left" as the remaining time for a download. Sure, I can wait!
@CrazyMazapan3 жыл бұрын
It's because it's Chrome. Too busy collecting your personal information to do the job. ;)
@ngaswithadditude3 жыл бұрын
Premiere once showed me 939281827478383:23:07
@julius8553 жыл бұрын
Steam users: PATHETIC
@Pmf95k3 жыл бұрын
Super Smash Bros shows “280 hours left”
@Bentroen_3 жыл бұрын
@@julius855 Oh, I get this all the time as well. My theory is that they keep calculating the "rolling average" even when the download is idle due to some external factor (i.e. the disk is busy so Steam can't write files to it), but they still proceed to throw those zeros into the calculation and you get "more than one year left".
@jamessawley2133 жыл бұрын
Steam be like: "Ok pal, this game will take 2 weeks... I mean 20 seconds... I mean 4 days, I mean 5 hours. . . I mean. . ."
@hypereternal22633 жыл бұрын
I mean 5 hours .... 2 weeks .... finished
@kenji6423 жыл бұрын
or 2 years.. im not kidding, steam actually said it'd take 2 years to download a game
@adamholliday33913 жыл бұрын
@@kenji642 What game was it? And what were the computer specs?
I've had the opposite: download time remaining: 3 years. Spoiler: it did not take three years. It was less than 15 minutes. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@TaijiArban3 жыл бұрын
Same with valorant update: More than a year. I even saw some program say incalculable.
@AgentxRyan3 жыл бұрын
@@TaijiArban lmao that reminds me Windows once said that Valorant took up 3.4 terabytes of space (visual glitch) when it really took up like 13gb
@kasane13373 жыл бұрын
I get that so often. Usually it sits at "0 seconds remaining" for at least 2 min.
@safe-keeper10423 жыл бұрын
@@AgentxRyan not progress bar-related, but your comment reminds me of installing an old game on a modern computer and the install program telling me the computer might not be able to run the game because it required 32 MB of RAM and I had only 4 GB.
@lokeshnandan3 жыл бұрын
*I'm being honest* , him knowing the exact length of the video time lapsed and telling the exact length of the video in between the video made me sub
@scorchik113 жыл бұрын
Even an actual queue acts like loading bars, many people just go straight through and then there’s one person who takes forever
@jackw77143 жыл бұрын
At the cash machine there is always that person who acts like they've never used one before
@sweetpandageek3 жыл бұрын
“it’ll still probably be wrong... just differently wrong!” is a perfect explanation of me going back to check my answers on a math test
@shakir_ahmad3 жыл бұрын
Your comment is the reason why I like internet.
@ImSquiggs3 жыл бұрын
I was friends with a computer genius as a kid, and his parents always had the cutting edge tech to play around with. One thing I remember him saying is "When I grow up and program games, I'm going to make a load bar that runs smoothly." That was his one mission in life, haha.
@Josh-ez1bt3 жыл бұрын
i hope that guy becomes successful
@leonardofranzinribeiro42203 жыл бұрын
I wish him well on his crusade for the perfect loading bar
@farisfaikar_r3 жыл бұрын
We'll watch his carrier with great interest
@inolongerusethisaccount40043 жыл бұрын
The quest for the perfect progress bar
@magi11343 жыл бұрын
My idea is the active colored part moving smoothly, but the size of the end extends itself if the loading is buffering
@Eclipse-yg6dl3 жыл бұрын
People: I need a better computer Physicians: Just flip the monitor sideways so the bar goes down due to gravity
@superevolvedshinamalgamleo81683 жыл бұрын
yup
@___Zack___3 жыл бұрын
..... Physicists?
@bosselotiscanon3 жыл бұрын
@@___Zack___ not a typo, my doctor also prescribed me the same thing instead of viagra.
@___Zack___3 жыл бұрын
@@bosselotiscanon Ha! not gonna lie, that was actually fantastic 😆
@31ll0873 жыл бұрын
The real pain is when it starts going backwards.
@tk36_real3 жыл бұрын
Hello there
@dabs42703 жыл бұрын
@@tk36_real general Kenobi
@31ll0873 жыл бұрын
@@tk36_real General Kenobi
@kislayanand46413 жыл бұрын
"I've come to bargain"
@dabs42703 жыл бұрын
@@kislayanand4641 no, you came here to be general Kenobi
@ChaosHillZone3 жыл бұрын
Vista: "Estimating time remaining..." *2 hours later* Vista: "Estimating time remaining..." Vista: "0 seconds remaining" *Task finishes*
@FalconFlurry3 жыл бұрын
At least your task finished, legend says there are Vista computers out there that are still estimating the time remaining
@mojave56613 жыл бұрын
haha funny because vista bad.. get it?
@0_-3 жыл бұрын
I think the disk can go faster but it'll take time to get to it's max speed at that current time
@krinkrin59823 жыл бұрын
That particular issue is because the system is indexing files and it can take ages to do just that.
@Menjoood3 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Vista experience of everyone who've never used Vista.
@TheSecondPersona11 ай бұрын
My favorite memory of a loading bar (or technically a "time remaining" counter) was one time downloading/installing a game on Steam. It was maybe 80% of the way when I noticed the download speed was slowing down significantly, and so the remaining time predicted went up from 3 minutes to 4, 5, 6, 7, and kept climbing. 30 minutes, hours, then days, then weeks, then months, and finally was all the way up to 1 year of predicted time remaining. A moment later it finished and was ready to play.
@PedroSantos-fw6gk3 жыл бұрын
When my torrent downloads shows _"63 years remaining"_ I'm like "great, I'll leave it downloading and come back when I'm 84." Ten minutes later: _" seeding"_
@laurinneff43043 жыл бұрын
Always love it when that happens. One time I got like 500 bytes per second. It hurt, but at least the download wasn't completely stalled
@dylanwhitney88893 жыл бұрын
Nothing worse than going back to check on the download and seeing that it's on 99% but all the seeders are gone😂
@kaitlyn__L3 жыл бұрын
@@laurinneff4304 I always increase my seed ratio like 10-100x higher than my default limit when that happens, hoping to offset the ppl that just leech, and maybe ultimately bringing the speed a bit higher for later ppl
@jaakkopontinen3 жыл бұрын
Heh is Bittorrent still a thing? Been years since I last saw these terms used :) Seeding! Had forgotten! And share ratio!
@donnawander77103 жыл бұрын
@@jaakkopontinen yep! it gets used for linux ISOs quite frequently
@michaeledmunds72663 жыл бұрын
Me downloading a game off the PlayStation store: "Download will be complete in 50 minutes... 3 hours... 20 minutes.... 30 minutes... it's done."
@moreuse3 жыл бұрын
then its stuck at "Copying...." for hours
@ahmed43633 жыл бұрын
You guys have anything other than a samsung s3?!
@ahmed43633 жыл бұрын
And GOOD INTERNET?!!
@miningmonkey13 жыл бұрын
@@moreuse yes
@no1DdC3 жыл бұрын
It took me three days to download all the updates for Gran Turismo 6 on PS3 - with a freakin' 300 Mbit/s connection. I was using the disc copy, I might add. Why? Because someone at Sony decided that the best way to deliver updates on that system was by having each individual update install separately. This is a minor annoyance with a game that has received its normal three to five patches over its lifespan, but with GT6, this meant installing 22 patches, one after the other, each of them at least hundreds of megabytes large on a system with a hard drive that would have been slow in 2006 and a processor that is fine in a supercomputer, but utterly incapable of quickly decompressing large amounts of data. And the system inevitably failed at installing some of these patches, even crashed during one over night download session, because it's from 2006 and Sony's engineers were taking crazy pills at the time, so I had to delete everything and restart again twice. Those three days were the successful installation run and don't include previous failed ones. Naturally, Sony's servers were also slow as hell, for some reason, which didn't make it any faster. Let's just say the PS3 is the last Sony console I've ever bought. The game's great though and it was totally worth the effort, but holy hell, what a nightmare.
@Gruggo3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure we've all done this, placed our mouse cursor right at the current position of a progress bar, so we can see if it's actually moving when we check on it again after some arbitrary amount of time.
@roietbd29923 жыл бұрын
Not okay, boomer.
@fk06923 жыл бұрын
@@roietbd2992 you on mobile or something? everyone does that!
@rukevweb56743 жыл бұрын
@@roietbd2992 Shut tf up
@user-zl1fx3lw9c3 жыл бұрын
I have made a game out of keeping my cursor _just_ out of reach of the bar, and keeping it as close as can be without touching it. The suspense of 'will I have to move my cursor some second in the next hour?' really helps time pass.
@yplokalaileekai71063 жыл бұрын
i put my finger and always thought i moved it and the bar hasn't moved
@kentslocum2 жыл бұрын
My new favorite excuse is "I'm not wrong; I'm just differently wrong."
@MidnightSt3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'm a programmer, and I take a "janky" progressbar that I can feel/see is directly tied into the operation before some "fancy" artificial smoothness where I have no way to judge whether it's not just an animation completely unrelated to what's happening (or even to the fact whether something is happening or not).
@Furiends3 жыл бұрын
I think progress bars only make sense with a single characteristic of a task. Download progress bars are actually really good. They tell you progress, rate and estimated time remaining. Combining multiple characteristics together is lazy and misleading. However its a disease with computing that the user shall have no idea what the blackbox is doing. Really a computer could be providing much more meaningful statuses on its tasks. But it'd require a lot more than a progress bar.
@ammyvl13 жыл бұрын
@@Furiends well the question is: why *do* you need to know what it's doing? For the vast majority of apps, it's not necessary.
@kindlin3 жыл бұрын
@@Furiends A list of progress bars (progress bar 3/8) isn't that much harder than 1 progress bar.
@electronx55943 жыл бұрын
@@ammyvl1 well let's say youre in a hurry and need to leave your wifi, the progression can help you decide whether to wait for awhile or stop the process and do it again later
@cardboardbox_tech3 жыл бұрын
In our stuff we tend to make a "wizard" style progress bar, something you'd see, say, in winxp installation, where it would give you a checkmark list of things to do and progress for the current thing it's doing
@heaslyben3 жыл бұрын
I think some progress bars are liars, like the ones with backwards-flowing animations that give the illusion of forward progress, or the ones that creep forward ever so slightly as if a page is still loading, even though the internet connection has clearly dropped. Grr/sigh.
@MichaelPohoreski3 жыл бұрын
Progress bars are NOT the problem. It is **dumb programmers** who can't calculate how long something will take because no one cares about performance anymore. _Just throw more hardware at the problem!_ /s
@Merthalophor3 жыл бұрын
The purpose of progress bars is to make the waiting time easier for you. They're not lying if they're advancing without making "progress", because the time left to wait is decreasing. Just my 2¢
@crashdemons3 жыл бұрын
how about when it rounds up to "100%" despite not being done? No, 100% means done, not nearly done. I think rounding up is okay except it should cap at at 99% and only go to 100% as part of a finishing transition (if you want to waste the user's time with one).
@MichaelPohoreski3 жыл бұрын
@@crashdemons Yup, that's a perfect example of lazy programming! Rounding down to the nearest integer or (round down to 2 decimal places) would be clearer.
@dkalnz33943 жыл бұрын
My favorite vague "progress bar" is probably tied between windows 95 copy dialog where pages move from one folder to another, and the cable box reboot saying "setting up".... "Getting close"..... "Almost there". Jk those are the worst. The best are when they say in a game for example, "lighting torches, sharpening swords, assembling the king's men etc."
@D9Beats3 жыл бұрын
This guy out here answering the real questions
@XperimentorEES Жыл бұрын
I like the comparison of loading bars being like the queue to a movie or something, reflecting real world incremental improvements the typical user can understand at face value. But filling a glass with water is in itself a smoothly transitioning progress bar we watch in real time, and if it's chunky then you got other problems to worry about.
@chriswarburton42963 жыл бұрын
"The most important job is just to reassure the user that yes, things are happening; progress is being made..." Shout out to Web pages which put a "spinner" gif directly in their HTML, so it always appears; even if the JS that fetches the content is broken/missing.
@katjastrand39553 жыл бұрын
I disable js by default and often get tricked into thinking a page is loading just to realize that I didn't even allow it to run js yet.
@dasten1233 жыл бұрын
@@katjastrand3955 You disable js, really? Wow, are you from 2008?
@katjastrand39553 жыл бұрын
@@dasten123 I use uMatrix to allow each domain individually to use scripts or css or media etc.
@watsonwrote3 жыл бұрын
@@dasten123 if you disable JS you can access nearly all of the paywalled news or magazine article websites. The paywall never loads but the article does
@mistymysticsailboat3 жыл бұрын
@@watsonwrote wait, really?
@Nostalgianerd3 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video topic, and I've devastated I didn't think of it.
@lhumanoideerrantdesinterne85983 жыл бұрын
You probably should have used an AI to come up with it.
@memeandco3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@rogehmarbi3 жыл бұрын
To be fair though if you decides to make one sometime in the future you know very well I'd watch it too
@Nic73203 жыл бұрын
Well, *that's* progress.
@raymickens4403 жыл бұрын
*I'm*
@designator74023 жыл бұрын
Honestly: I find it much more important that software tells me _what_ it is doing. I like to see which files it is currently copying, or what step of the process it is currently on. I think that might be the one thing that infuriates me about apple machines the most: The almost complete lack of feedback.
@FeplayBuilds3 жыл бұрын
Don't say that before you try final cut pro
@FeplayBuilds3 жыл бұрын
also I'm a musical artist too! mind checking out my channel? :)
@_brrr3 жыл бұрын
~reticulating splines~
@muizzsiddique3 жыл бұрын
@@FeplayBuilds No :3
@michael_betts3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, the more time, and processing power, that is put into feedback, and making sure the progress bar is accurate, the slower the actual task goes. Most progress bars are very simple because that is easy and doesnt slow anything down, although the processing power wouldnt matter for most things.
@Tharmin.124 Жыл бұрын
To further ensure the user knows that the program hasn't crashed, it's always nice to add a "time elapsed" counter as well
@ketsuekikumori91453 жыл бұрын
"It will be differently wrong." I'll use that when I don't want to admit when someone is more correct.
@MrC0MPUT3R3 жыл бұрын
I use something similar in programming. If I can get a program that was failing to fail differently, then I've learned something.
@deesh63783 жыл бұрын
When I see a loading bar that's perfectly smooth I know it's just for display and doesn't represent actual activity. Either on scam websites, some games, or other places.
@daveinpublic3 жыл бұрын
But they could simulate a jittery progress bar.
@Cheesus-Sliced3 жыл бұрын
some games will use a high estimate for the loading time and just use that every time, and make you wait a little longer every time even if it loads faster, and just sorta bug out if loading takes longer. Elite Dangerous, for instance, when you jump between systems there is an animation that plays which is actually hiding the loading, and if it takes too long its called "tunneling". Other games might implement elevators, decontamination chambers, all sorts of stuff.
@PhilippHorwat3 жыл бұрын
Breath of the Wild takes an interesting approach: They know the average time it takes to load and programmed the progress bar to be as fast as this average loading time. If loading takes longer than expected, the progress par stops at 95% filled. If loading is already completed, they fastly fill the progress bar and continue.
@Fulano53213 жыл бұрын
Or Windows has many of it's progess bars replaced with animated images.
@0_-3 жыл бұрын
@@Cheesus-Sliced that sounds like a very cool topic
@userSchlonsch3 жыл бұрын
„It will still be wrong but differently wrong“ that’s how I generally approach my exams at university
@ritawant46863 жыл бұрын
ჰო
@PRDreams2 жыл бұрын
I found you a bit ago and you are delightful. I'm watching anything that is suggested by the mighty algorithm and so far? Pure gold.
@TheDarkSoul973 жыл бұрын
“It said something about a bios being updated, I waited like five minutes but nothing changed, so I restarted the pc.”
@MetaBloxer3 жыл бұрын
This comment caused me physical pain.
@BrendonGreenNZL3 жыл бұрын
That's why redundant firmware loaders were implemented as soon as flash memory became cheap enough to do so. The machine can checksum the primary firmware and, if it falls, load the secondary as a backup.
@birdnerd94373 жыл бұрын
oh oh god no please no
@thenasadude68783 жыл бұрын
There was a big red "DO NOT TURN OFF" alert but I didn't turn it off, I just reset it
@UselessZero3 жыл бұрын
@@thenasadude6878 this caused even more physical pain.
@magdalenastys3 жыл бұрын
"computers are mysterious boxes" this is every highschool computer science class in a nutshell
@cadekachelmeier72513 жыл бұрын
If you want to make them less mysterious, I'd suggest watching BenEater's series building a computer on breadboards.
@rlamacraft3 жыл бұрын
I have 2 degrees in computer science and have been programming for nearly a decade and they’re still just mysterious boxes to me. If anything it’s all the more magical
@divat103 жыл бұрын
@@rlamacraft the more you know about computers the less you understand
@cy-bernet-ix3 жыл бұрын
"it's magic, joel"
@SahilP26483 жыл бұрын
@@rlamacraft whoever came up with the basics of how software and hardware is integrated to make a computer is the real genius here. I mean in terms of software or program actually changing how electrons are rerouted in the processor using nothing but electric potentials applied at different places- all working non-mechanically. That's the one thing that I still don't understand and I am a developer too.
@LashanR3 жыл бұрын
I know you could easily just look at a timer but I was honestly more impressed at your 1:24 callout than the "this video has 10,646,282 views" video
@blaster-zy7xx3 жыл бұрын
It was done by 1) a good estimation of the script length with a few practice runs. 2) Leaving one cut at the intro to slide the body of the video up or down the timeline to have his callout match the timecode.
@brodiebligh48283 жыл бұрын
@@blaster-zy7xx Or there was just a clock next to the camera
@wojtek4p43 жыл бұрын
Probably a teleprompter and a timer. And experience. And a few retakes.
@CoffeePoints3 жыл бұрын
And the nothingness at the end of the video. Just add the required amount of seconds needed to make the prediction accurate
@ekevanderzee95383 жыл бұрын
Stopwatch and a buffer at the end of the video so the final length could be edited precisely.
@exoticlol Жыл бұрын
The fact that Tom can tell you inside of the video how long it will be AND the exact second that s clip plays in advance is crazy.
@epicmusic90293 жыл бұрын
"Maybe the computer just thinks it needs maintainance." This guy definitely uses Windows.
@JohnDCrafton3 жыл бұрын
ikr Like for example, Background Intelligent Transfer Service is neither "background" nor "intelligent." I'm actively using my PC, watching streaming video or whatever, then BITS kicks on and suddenly my ability to do anything on the internet dissipates. It literally uses all of my bandwidth and the only solution is to stop the service.
@SimonBuchanNz3 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDCrafton if it helps, BITS is the downloading part of Windows Update, so I wouldn't leave it disabled! Check updates in settings next time to see if it's an update you can pause instead maybe, and if there's any options in update scheduling that seem wrong? Keep in mind it doesn't have much of an option if you're literally turning your PC on, watching a video then turning it off, for example, but even then the impact shouldn't be that big.
@aimu_11113 жыл бұрын
Me: Oh sht I have a school test I need to do Windows: Update go brrrr Also windows 1 hour later: "Couldnt install update"
@JohnDCrafton3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonBuchanNz I don't disable the service, I just stop it. It restarts itself eventually.
@JohnDCrafton3 жыл бұрын
@@SimonBuchanNz It doesn't help that I only have 1.5 Mbps download. My ISP sucks. But it's not my ISP's fault that Windows believes it needs all of my 1.5 Mbps to download updates "in the background".
@Марк.Фетнов3 жыл бұрын
"Less than 1 minute remaining", Yes 1 Microsoft minute...
@dave0smeg3 жыл бұрын
Love Microsoft Minutes. "23 Minutes remaining" means anything from 7 minutes to 32 hours.
@cycrothelargeplanet3 жыл бұрын
@@dave0smeg ahh
@danielgstohl99933 жыл бұрын
Don't quote me on this, but I think that behaviour comes from the way caching is handled. Essentially, most OSs will take some RAM that's unused at the moment and use it to cache disk writes to make them faster or even save some write operations if the same thing is modified multiple times. The Windows Explorer doesn't know about that and just hears from the OS that files are being written, but not whether they are written to RAM or the actual disk. But the developers of Explorer probably thought of that, so to be sure the Explorer will tell the OS to flush the cache, (i.e. tell it to write all cached from RAM to the disk) before closing the copy dialog. They just didn't think to make a progress bar for that or adjust the existing one.
Similar to The World. Dio's monologues that are supposed to be 7 seconds long can be anywhere from 10 seconds to 10 minutes.
@Aa-zq7ch3 жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta until the progress bar leaves the monitor
@diogocaetano1ALT3 жыл бұрын
*progress bar goes to 101%*
@archanashukla4993 жыл бұрын
I mean it has happened a few times with me, right here on youtube while watching a premiere/live stream (on landscape). The bar would go beyond, touching the edge of the screen
@NerdyCatCoffeeee3 жыл бұрын
@@archanashukla499 you gotta reconfigure your monitor or something. that's not how youtube videos should behave
@amai_zing Жыл бұрын
I’ve been a software developer for decades and I still find myself trying to explain to people that the progress bar shows how much of all the tasks the program needs to perform have been done, not how much time it’s going to take to do those tasks Since things have gone largely internet based (which can be a total crapshoot), progress bars have largely been replaced with spinning loading things because we developers have essentially given up on trying to give any predictions and just want to let the user know “we’re still doing something, please continue wait”
@boogiebot22793 жыл бұрын
Going from 99% to 100% is one of the biggest emotional rollercoasters you can go on in life.
Like an asymptotic function - you get ever so near, but never reach it. Progress bars should grow decimal places after 99%: 99% -> 99.x% -> 99.9x% -> 99.9999999x% etc.
@benjismith66563 жыл бұрын
Dislike
@TheLK6413 жыл бұрын
It's not much compared to going from 100% to "done"...
@badmanjones1793 жыл бұрын
try 100% to actually finished -_-
@rangerwolf66843 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed how you nailed 1:24 in your script. Very consistent
@KroanC3 жыл бұрын
@꧁ RITA - F**UСК МЕ ꧂ you’re a mistake
@Connie_TinuityError3 жыл бұрын
I'm sure Plainrock would be proud
@Murzac3 жыл бұрын
All you really need to do to do that is to have [current time] in the script and then have a timer next to it showing exactly how long has passed. Just read the time there when you get there.
@EllieT3 жыл бұрын
@@Murzac And adding the intro time
@DJ-Daz3 жыл бұрын
I imagine Tom is referring to a stopwatch.
@purrito38923 жыл бұрын
I always just assumed it was in chunks like that because that’s just how it was. I never thought to question it
@jaydubelyew68113 жыл бұрын
"The loading bar do be irregular doe" - Sun Tzu, The art of Computer Science
@CoderGautam3 жыл бұрын
@@jaydubelyew6811 tecnoblade
@_.luminosity._3 жыл бұрын
@@CoderGautam jrem
@iamthemobey3 жыл бұрын
Question everything
@jordanwallace83893 жыл бұрын
@@CoderGautam Jschlatt
@djcook3 жыл бұрын
This video would not get off my recommended so let’s see what it’s about
@kacauthecat94843 жыл бұрын
Hey, Dj
@content35513 жыл бұрын
this video randomly came up in my recommendations
@woahachannel8 ай бұрын
*TWO YEARS. FOUR LIKES. WHAT.*
@insertfunnynamehere99103 жыл бұрын
"It will still be wrong, but it will be differently wrong" I love that.
@johnchessant30123 жыл бұрын
Can we just take a moment to appreciate how Tom said "4" at the exact moment the time became 1:24
@raspberryb16643 жыл бұрын
Probably had a timer in front of him
@Lightning_Mike3 жыл бұрын
Probably edited the intro to fit perfectly
@raspberryb16643 жыл бұрын
@@SomeBlokeWhoTravelsALot explain?
@TriAzF3 жыл бұрын
@@SomeBlokeWhoTravelsALot the easy part is editing the outro’s length to make the video 5:10. As for saying 1:24 at 1:24, a timer seems like a valid explanation to me. And then slightly adjust when the video starts so it lines up almost perfectly. Though I might be missing something, I’m not too sure what’s strange about that?
@binarypench3 жыл бұрын
I like how you became ASCII art when the "old style progress bar" appeared, just so that you'd fit in the scene.
@MegaLokopo Жыл бұрын
You could probably design a loading bar that manipulates human emotion to convince us to be patient and constantly thinking it is always almost over.
@themoon56023 жыл бұрын
"Or maybe the just decided that now would be a really good time to do some maintenance in the background." *LOOKING AT YOU WINDOWS*
@lukmly0133 жыл бұрын
WHERE IS THE PAUSE BUTTON? Windows:It isn't Me: What is that red button on my extension cord then Windows: Wait, that's illegal!
@alexnoman14983 жыл бұрын
CPU1 spins to 105% load, two different performance and telemetry processes appear out nowhere, the monitor goes right out the window, - Windows is atrocious in that regard.
@TheJunky2283 жыл бұрын
haha that's why I run a distro of Linux. I get to decide when my computer gets to update. It is _my_ computer after all, and not owned by Microsoft or Apple.
@UnraveledMnd3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJunky228 Do you want grandma deciding when to upgrade her computer? Auto updates are annoying sometimes, but they aren't inherently bad.
@brookewestonctc3 жыл бұрын
So... we getting "The cliff that refuses to be a cliff" any time soon?
@franciscofelix623 жыл бұрын
This
@heysemberthkingdom-brunel50413 жыл бұрын
Maybe a person *named* Cliff who wants a name change?
@HomeTownAdventurers3 жыл бұрын
@@heysemberthkingdom-brunel5041 I'm game.
@onyourleft92733 жыл бұрын
@@HomeTownAdventurers Do it
@ausernameiguess70583 жыл бұрын
@@HomeTownAdventurers you gotta choose a new name now
@MagnumPI3083 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but with all his title-editing magic I feel Tom will edit the progress bar in the title, so that it fills up during time... So here's what it currently looks like: ▓▓▓░░░░░░
@mjeffery3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. So far it's still stuck at 3/9, though.
@FeplayBuilds3 жыл бұрын
▓▓▓░░░░░░
@vincenturquhart13703 жыл бұрын
▓▓▓░░░░░░ update
@shortbrit35733 жыл бұрын
Might be based on likes, 32K likes 3 bars full...
@Shastaphirre3 жыл бұрын
Don't think it's changing, though that would've been cool: ▓▓▓░░░░░░
@thermalXTX Жыл бұрын
I love the Netflix percentage count.. It’s at 1%, 4% and then done, never even gets to 5
@Aviioniic3 жыл бұрын
One thing i have learned from the internet is that smooth-moving progress bars are sketchy and you should always stop whatever they are doing.
@thescreemregular51683 жыл бұрын
yep
@HandledToaster23 жыл бұрын
Some scams are smart enough to have the progress bar pause suddenly just to sell the illusion
@brunoseminotti52303 жыл бұрын
tom: "LIke scammy websites that make you artificially wait ten seconds for something to load so they can show you an advert in the meantime" youtube: *sweating profusely
@GabrielDipo3 жыл бұрын
Hahahahah😂
@jackkraken38883 жыл бұрын
Right? I hate how KZbin now says you have to wait for the advert to stop then you can watch your video.
@God-yb2cg3 жыл бұрын
@@jackkraken3888 I wouldn't use youtube at all if i didn't have an adblocker.
@brunnomenxa3 жыл бұрын
When I'm on my cell phone, I simply report the ad as irrelevant. That way I close the ad before the 5 seconds pass.
@GustavoFernandesKing3 жыл бұрын
@@brunnomenxa or you can use the adblock browser :)
@fibyq3 жыл бұрын
“It’ll be wrong but it’ll be differently wrong” That’s the best way to say something sucks
@makarabaduk17543 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the new normal ;)
@vari15353 жыл бұрын
I love that quote
@MrGhozt3 жыл бұрын
Progress bar: 3 percent complete Estimated finish time: 2 minutes remaining Progress bar: 99 percent complete Also estimated finish time: 22 years remaining