What Exceptional Talent Really Means

During her lifetime, Ida Presti was one of the greatest phenomenons the classical guitar world had ever seen. She was not only technically almost unmatched, but possessed free and untethered musicality. On May 31 2024, we're celebrating her 100th birthday.
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• Presti: Etude fantasque
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• The Ida Presti right h...
I particularly recommend checking out the channel of Jean Pierre Semeraro for lots of archival recordings of Presti & Lagoya: / @jean-pierresemeraro7994
Newspaper excerpts and photographies through digitalguitararchive.com
Music in video performed by Ida Presti, Alexandre Lagoya, Stephanie Jones and Jakob Schmidt.
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[@casulopresti]

Bonjour, à toute l’équipe et aux intervenants, j’ai fait le mois dernier un hommage exceptionnel à Paris pour ma grand-mère Ida Presti. Je vous remercie infiniment de cet image que vous rendez et que je rends à chaque fois que je peux en faisant une conférence musicale avec des archives inédites temps audio que visuel, et je suis très très heureuse de commentaires et de la façon dont vous avez si bien parlé d’elle. Bientôt, c’est-à-dire demain sortira une petite vidéo de Savarez qui évoque le moment de partage que nous avons tous eu lors de cet image. Encore merci pour elle pour son oeuvre pour son genie pour la femme qu elle était merveilleuse et si musicale je continuerais à oeuvrer pour mieux la faire connaitre dans le monde entier Merci encore pour votre video Isabelle Presti❤

[@stephengolden6080]

Beautiful.😑

[@higheriam]

Merci beaucoup ❤...🎼🎵🎶

[@rareword]

Quel est le titre du film dans lequel elle apparaît ?

[@tomgutierrez7573]

The great Spanish violinist Pablo de Sarasate said: "For 37 years I've been practicing 14 hours a day, and now they call me a genius."

[@janecroft]

That's nothing! I've praticed 37 hours for 14 years...and still suck...

[@tomgutierrez7573]

​@@janecroft 😂 That's why we need slippery words like 'talent'!

[@scaphite]

🎉zzz​@@janecroftkk. Aza2k n koxz11ax 44

[@ruggerobelloni4743]

I met Mario Maccaferri in NYC in the 80s. He talked about giving Ida lessons when she was a child and recalled in awe how he could never really give her homework because she repeated passages instantly on the spot as if remembering rather than learning them. Django loved Bach and when Presti and Lagoya played for him privately he was moved to tears and openly wept for joy.

[@fusion-music]

The argument about talent is the one I use when my wife talks about my "talent." I worked hard to get a skill & made some good recordings, but after years of little practice and learning, I have lost the skills and my daughter has experienced the same. Julian Bream is one of my favourite musician/educators and his method is quite clear - work at each piece, each technique. Paco de Lucia felt he was almost going insane with the effort he put into his music and exploration. Ida Presti is a very worthy musician to keep to the fore. Thanks.

[@MehdiJafri-y5z]

I have a very extensive background with the guitar. I was getting video taped since I was a kid. I started as an electric player. Then switched to classical. I worked with the best in the world. All over EU and the USA. I don't believe hardwork is the key. I was practicing 8 hours a day at a time and my playing was not that good during performance. It's more about quality of practice. But the biggest factor is your approach. The way I think of technique is just "the efficiency of bring out a musical idea". I dropped all technique "rules". Music dominates and directs the way my hands move. Therefore there are a lot of subtle things I do that don't fit a technique methodology. But it's all guided by music and the music is guided by inspiration and visions. I'm also a big believer in the power of manifestation. The universe is not simple. The laws of physics breakdown at a quantum level. Our minds and thoughts effect the sound and music we play. There's also something called inspired action. Have a dream and go towards it intuitively. Don't follow a method or routine. Let dreams and intuition guide your progress. But most of all keep the dream in you and let inspire you and walk towards it.

[@MehdiJafri-y5z]

Be led by a dream. Let your actions be aligned to it. The other masters i believe that followd this approach all - Leonardo DaVinci. Bach. Beethoven. Mozart. They worked ofcourse but they took upon it intuitively and there work was a natural result of having visions, dreams, and passion for something. As humble as they seem, the greats have always become greats in part because they have visions of themselves being great.

[@mintonmiller]

I am 62 years old. Country music is more my thing. I have been playing guitar mandolin, Dobre and banjo for over 40 years. But I never could achieve a level of accuracy or speed due to physical limitations. I firmly believe that talent is more nature, if you prefer, God-given. It was not lack of motivation on my part that I never learned to play well, but physical limitations, and the fact that, I needed to work for a living

[@BryanClark-gk6ie]

When a person works for a living, they have responsibilities to worry about, with that in mind' sometimes it's hard to concentrate and like you said' physical limitations' busted up bruised/cut hands and fingers. It's hard to concentrate when your back is hurting so bad it hurts to sit down. . would have been nice to have lived a cushioned life' no worries... just play a nice expensive guitar.

[@schizodeltaman]

fair enough, I obviously don't know the limitations that have held you back but for example Django Reidhardt only had 2 working fingers in his fretting hand and was very accomplished you can make excuses but there tends to be a way if your determined enough. also pro musicians work very hard for a living.

[@jesseserna8424]

My dad was a musician from the 1930s until around 1990,around the 1940s he accidentally cut off his fingers(pointer and middle) on left hand but after about 6 months he returned to playing his fiddle 🎻. I was born in 1965 I carried and helped the musicians set up in dances,bars ,clubs ,VFW halls ,weddings parties etc.

[@schizodeltaman]

I worked In Security 14 hour days and nights supporting a family I also worked construction on weekends I've had busted hands aches pains still made time for music, I ran my self into the ground and triggered schizophrenia which I've battled 20 years I ain't got money these days can't work like that no more music's finally taking off because it's my life I ain't got time to make excuses but I find you patronising I know suffering responsibility and pain but I want it to bad to blame my situation grow some balls and accept you didn't want it bad enough, I ain't got expensive guitars last 5 songs I recorded on a cheap £60 guitar gifted to me using a mobile phone app and phone mic. You can either find a way or find an excuse

[@paulpasquale2212]

I completely understand what you mean. I had a natural bent for music , but life and physical limitations got in the way, but I still plug along with what I still have left. Have fun with whatever you can do.

[@rikspector]

Jakob and Stephanie, Ida Presti has been an inspiration to me for my whole life, I'm 82, and although I am a clarinetist, not a guitarist, listening to music and talented musicians, has been a part of me since I was very little. You both express yourselves so intelligently and clearly and have said many things about Ida and Her husband that I didn't fully realize...Thank You:) There will always be musicians whose ability to inspire and communicate musically cannot be examined and dissected, because their abilities are a Gestalt of the components, physical and mental in each one, that makes them more than the sum of these things. When that happens we have Prestis and many others who enrich our lives. Thank You, Fredrick Spector

[@8888Rik]

Excellent, too-short video about Presti and Presti-Lagoya. I no longer play, but I was almost pathologically obsessed with "classical" (I hate that term) guitar for many decades, and eventually played in local venues. Even back in the early 1960s, when I started playing, Presti was legendary in the guitar world. She is still incredibly almost completely unknown, even amongst guitarists. This video is a very welcome contribution to her place in the world of guitar.

[@mauriceeccles3373]

I have played classical guitar for around forty years and had never heard of her but I shall look into her career now

[@8888Rik]

@@mauriceeccles3373You won't be disappointed. Her collaboration with Lagoya is legendary. Guitarists of their generation and before virtually never travelled very far or made many recordings. The single exception was Segovia, who was the only one of them to travel the world, repeatedly, and became (as he himself put it) "the apostle of the guitar", and this is why Segovia became practically synonymous with the instrument. There were better guitarists than he was in his own time, but they never went anywhere.

[@erickonigsdorfer544]

Another fantastic video! Ida Presti was simply amazing and it is great to revive her legacy, here. Thank you so much Jakob and Stephanie!

[@jeanshields9206]

Merci ! J’ai pleuré en ecoutant votre video … que de souvenirs … j’ai commencé la guitare en 1968 au Quebec , j’ai eu la chance d’étudier avec des élèves de Presti-Lagoya ( Martin et Marie Prével) Lagoya avait délaissé les concerts de guitare un bon moment.. puis j’aimaussi eu la chance d’avoir un stage avec lui à Nice pendant l’été 1972 … oufff que d’émotion . Merci encore et je salue Mme Isabelle Presti de tout mon coeur …

[@steveb9325]

Ida Presti was a force of nature!

[@JohnB.6251]

Jakob and Stephanie, thanks so much. Very interesting and well done acknowledgement of Ida Presti's excellence on guitar. Also appreciate the comments about "talent." And the point being the expression of guitar music, not rigid rules and one size fit's all indoctrination... John B.

[@philsarkol6443]

First time I hear of Ida Presti...amazing how she could set her hand stretching 8 frets!! From index to pinky...? Absolute Master guitarist ..no doubt. The higher school of classical guitar!!

[@RobertFleitz]

Another great video! Thanks so much for introducing me so thoroughly to this wonderful figure!

[@michaelreaper666]

My old prof was a friend of her / Lagoya /Walker and Segovia .. she was a student of Llobet .. Presti was a really great Guitarist ..Thanks

[@BuscadoresFlamencos]

Thanks for share!!🎸🔥

[@lucarinaldovillani63]

Great way to talk of Ida Presti ! I think no skill can develope in full without practice and no practice can go far without a reasonable portion of talent. Grazie Jacob and Stephanie,: I heard her concert in Rome last year. Fine concert and cd. Ciao !!

[@dominiquefarese8061]

I love her.

[@gregsoete8596]

Wonderful thanks, Greg

[@MayorAndJames]

An inspirational and exceptionally well-presented video - thank you!

[@kwimms]

It is a joke video about nothing. Who cares if someone can play guitar... wow!

[@rocketpost1]

I just clicked on the image not knowing who it was and thinking it could be the American jazz guitarist Mary Osborne who was born in 1921, just three years before Ida. I hadn't heard of Ida but she and Mary were both child prodigies and now largely forgotten unfortunately. It would make an interesting program to explore the parallels in the lives of these two exceptionally talented women. I enjoyed your film very much about the life of Ida Presti.

[@charlestidwell4970]

Glad I got here, this is the most informative segment I have seen in quite a while and I'm always looking for something new. The hours of listening pleasure I derive from new sources is always an exciting and rewarding experience. I will be visiting often for more of what I received today.Thanks.

[@jasonwhalen3865]

Another excellent production, great work Tonebase! I was JUST recently thinking about unearthing some of her old gems for my own studies/platform as they are uncommon to a lot of players today, so this vid is great timing. A formidable collection of Presti’s works can be found on Spotify, specifically the Blue album cover entitled, ‘Segovia and his contemporaries’ which is where I discovered her remarkable talent or “feeling” which is as most of us know, quite a bit separate of technical skill. We used to say “feeling” in the metal scene in the early 90’s but I guess todays parallel would be “musicality”? Those two aforementioned measures in symbiosis (feeling/technique) are the mark of a master*, as she will be remembered! Least to me, and I only discovered her two summers ago. Thks /JW

[@GregoryOlsen-hu2vn]

A very interesting presentation. 🤗

[@Biensche-3566]

Entertaining AND interesting AND multi-layered AND carefully researched AND produced state of the art. Simply another great video, thank you very much!

[@billthomson7468]

Thanks for this. I am in my 70s and ashamed to say I had not come across Ida. Such an interesting story. I must look up some of her recordings. Interesting views on duet playing too. Really absorbing video.

[@clementwarrior]

This is my exact case, agree 100%

[@LukeDunlea]

This is an excellent essay. Well done, I really like your exploration of talent etc.

[@eriktempelman2097]

Amazing video essay, my compliments ❤❤❤

[@charleswilson925]

There is not much more beautiful than classical guitar in this world thank God and thank all of our wonderful artists

[@jeffreybell7015]

There is no question that Ida Presti was one of the great giants of classical guitar. I would say she was a giant in the world of classical music, in general. The gorgeous ensemble between her and Alexandre Laggoya is really on the same level. I find listening to the recordings they made together to be inspiring and one of the richest experiences I have in classical music. I am sorry she dies so young and ma deeply grateful for what she left us.

[@jeffhildreth9244]

Excellent presentation. Liked and subscribed.

[@WSallai]

Haven’t heard of Ida Presti, but have known about Segovia. She was a truly an artistic genius and it is too bad that she hadn’t recorded her own works, and of course having died at such a young age. There are so many childhood prodigies on many different instruments and one has to marvel at their talent and bask in their glow.

[@bentmller675]

Skilled players, are found everywhere, now more than ever. But what really matter is, what"S in their head. Do they bring anything new to the table, are they msaking inventions, do they compose, new magical stuff ,for the instrument. That"s what matter, and that"s why, a rather rudimentary guitarist like Keith Richards matters, cause he got a gift, the gift to envent magic. !00 of guitarist play better than him, but none of them, really matters, cause their great skills, wasn"t going in any new directions, be one to follow. WE can all enjoy a really skillfull master, but ton morrow it"s a new one, and a new one, it dosn"t matter, they are all basicly the same. But that rare person, showing ways, open our minds, that"s what matter.

[@alinebarroca01]

God, i never heard about Ida before, what a shame, its great this channel make a video of it, now i know how much i dont know and can search more !!! Thank you

[@lisabruneau3801]

Excellent video.

[@noveltycrusade]

Talent is peculiar and desired

[@SoumyadiptaRay]

NICOLA HALL ----- one episode upon HER also...

[@marcellsivad7767]

"Talent setzt sich durch" plegte mein Gitarrenlehrer zu sagen.

[@chrismcabee9409]

Absolutely fantastic video! Keep them coming!

[@kithg]

Talent is when you practice properly, and you get better. Talent-free is when you practice properly and still, it doesn’t sound like music!

[@nyanzijoseph8861]

Hello. Even a small candle can cast away a big darkness but it's beams will only rich circles according to it's sharpness and nature of the sorrounding. No candle can cast away darkness not untill a fire is lit... Thank you so much, for where hopes Nick's the heart brains will open eyes to see... Joseph Nyanzi /Global Reformer of the times.

[@donaldanderson6604]

John Duarte's tribute Idylle pour Ida is wonderful.

[@charleshartlen3914]

Great video my dude!

[@marklong4980]

Pat Metheny is quoted as saying "Compared to Bach, we all suck". I find that much of what is attributed to talent is really hours and hours of practice! It kind of makes me mad when someone says "Your so talented" when the reality is, I have invested countless hours practicing. I guess I feel like the time I have spent is being disregarded. I am not saying talent doesn't exist, I feel that it's much less of a factor than what has been ascribed.

[@eknick]

I believe everyone is talented on some things but not everything. The goal is to find the thing that you are talented in, mix that with interest, timing, physical attributes, the right tutor, family support, so that you can reach master level in whichever field you pursue in the least amount of time. Only then, that skill which you have mastered, others will call talent.

[@higheriam]

Well done. Delivery of concept and content seamlessly. Thank You... Subscribe'd 🎼🎵🎶❤️‍🔥

[@miprofe3095]

It is a little known fact about the great Ida Presti that she met with another of France's great talents and fellow prodigy, the violinist Ginette Neveau. They planned to play some concerts together but shortly after, in 1949, Neveau died tragically in a 'plane crash, aged only 30. If the Presti-Neveau Duo had been formed, it's possible that Presti-Lagoya, the greatest guitar duo of the 20th century,, might never have happened.

[@Tonysmithmusic]

she died much too young. such a talent. she seemed double jointed and had incredible flexibility, like pianist yuja wang.

[@arosalesmusic]

Allan Holdsworth, Frank Gambale are 2 examples of the electric guitar world, but they also improvise and compose which is the most important thing, not just to give recitals and concerts.

[@richardamantite678]

this

[@rayerscarpensael2300]

The most important thing in jazz and fusion. Luckily classical musicians don t improvise, otherwise we wouldn t have a 4 century legacy. Also from a fingering point, playing these positions on an acoustic classical guitar is miles above shredding on an electric fastlane neck with 008 strings

[@arosalesmusic]

@@rayerscarpensael2300 I play both types of guitars and both have their demands. And I would place Flamenco guitarists a notch above classical guitarists.

[@arosalesmusic]

@@ClassicalGuitaristWannabe And with that you are expected to play much more. And it is a much more versatile and expressive instrument.

[@arosalesmusic]

@@ClassicalGuitaristWannabe Actually the electric guitar

[@davidwalker5054]

The great guitarist Django Reinhardt once finished a recording session and when the engineer played it back for him he was perplexed what he was hearing was not what he thought he had played. it was coming from somewhere else

[@ericwood1942]

Physical capability defines the expression of talent. Small hands, short fingers, etc, do not allow the capability in the first place.

[@henryiwamoto2038]

Não sabia destes detalhes sobre Ida Presti gostei muito e foi muito informativo, darei mais valor a essa importante musicista.

[@timelwell7002]

In another sphere - tennis - the Williams sisters (Venus and Serena) were both taught by their father, rather than by a professional coach. The comparison to Ida Presti and her father seems appropriate.

[@aminyt8742]

Me Playing With my broken C40 Yamaha Because I have no fucking money: "Yes."

[@Ferdinandus1955]

And her husband a great duo

[@TobyAusten-jd2rr]

Vell àmazing

[@outbackgearforu]

Interesting that it’s starts with a parent setting goals and helping the child to stay the course,not just do what you feel

[@rickfranco1636]

Thanks for this fantastic video!! But I sugest you do some research on the best ever guitar duo, Sergio and Eduardo Abreu!

[@davemiller9707]

Thanks for this video. I'm a classical guitar enthusiast. My first teacher was Alice Artz. Alice noted that Segovia was blown away by and maybe jealous of Ida''s mastery. Alice taught me the Idi Presti right hand technique. I'm not very good. Still, I love that there are so many young women virtuoso's now. Modern classical guitarist's achievement is astounding. Players like Stephanie Jones and Alexandra Whittingham raise goose bumps on my arms and bring tears to my eyes. Great music and it's interpretation is an intricate and ethereal world of art, suprise and discovery.

[@tomgutierrez7573]

Well, Alice Artzt has her own ideas about the Presti technique. In France, more people were influenced by Alexandre Lagoya. Although he also played with the right side of his nails, his technique was a bit different.

[@guitarlessonsnow3431]

Best to play with a straight wrists, otherwise you risk injury.

[@user-vxymoqm]

心より感謝してます ラゴヤ氏はプレスティを天才と言ってたそうです。 この動画は再び彼女に光を与えてます 🙏👍🇯🇵🌈

[@RobertoMartinez-kv5tp]

Un merecido reconocimiento a Ida Presti, que ocupa un lugar de honor entre los mejores intérpretes de Guitarra Clásica de la historia. En el video, se sugiere que Alexandre Lagoya era un intérprete estándar, pero no. Lagoya fue un guitarrista magnífico y grandioso, muchas veces subvalorado. Creo que después del genial dueto que formaron Bream y Williams, el dúo Presti-Lagoya es el más importante.

[@chirocuras.r.l.6529]

Been playing for 58 years now...........my teacher studied with Rodrigo Riera one of the 4 Segovia disciples.........what does this mean? 2 hours of scales a day........getting my hands in olympic shape with of course much attention to the apoyando or rest stroke which I do not see or hear much use of in this video .........with all respect for different tastes, no one can produce dynamics or a true projecting tone using only the nail ... it is impossible......One must use the skin then the nail ........not following? Listen to Alirio Diaz, John Williams and of course the man, Segovia. Now compare to the video ..........hear the difference? Even their tirando is almost the same level of the "rest stroke".......the art of the guitar comes from this and it requires lots of correct practice to achieve it...........a thin, brittle nail tone does not project and has little beauty resulting in boring concerts......sometimes the nail only makes a great effect by itself or when playing ponticello but only for short periods....Young players today roll their eyes as they emote about their playing but no one can hear them as their right hand is not pushing the string robbing them of their true expression. Result is: no projection, beauty of tone or dynamics so very flat performances from poor preparation and weak hands........Solution? Diatonic major and minor scales everyday untill your fingers falls off using every possible finger combination with rest stroke. As a result your "free" stroke will also have a beautiful tone...........

[@rascal4336]

I would like to hear them play a little , not just 3 seconds.

[@IBERIA18]

what about TORY SLUSHER SHE IS A TRUE GENIUS

[@dougtube2006]

1:57 Holy cow … !

[@weloverobospam]

Presti? Yes! True Champion of Guitar? Clickbait title not followed up on in the video. Overall? 10% about the putative topic, 90% creative writing exercise. With a small side-order of retro-fitting history to accomodate the worldview of today.

[@MrGuitarman8000]

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

[@klampfetamine]

What a great video! Thanks a lot for this Treasure!

[@ericrobles9363]

Excellent video of someone who made the sounds that made me want to play

[@qw49]

TINA .S. TINA.S. ❤❤❤❤

[@Chance-ry1hq]

The fact that so many young prodigies are popping up everywhere truly shows the power of the internet, and how poor our tradition teaching methods are.

[@ericescudier9813]

Merci! Mais où est Tina S?

[@brakeme1]

Sorry i had to leave when i saw her fret 4 e notes. Life isnt fair.

[@niceguitar6144]

So, talent is always obvious, and never what you wanted to be. There is such thing as objective truth, and talent is not an exception to this rule. Second, to become Mozart or Presti, i'm sorry to mention them in the same sentence, but enormous sacrifice is required on the part of children, and on the part of their parents. I guarantee you fathers aren't having a ball being draconian tyrants through endless hours of practice. Yes, they didn't have a childhood, but they had a wonderful career and produced unforgettable music, a gift to the whole world. It is not possible to have everything in life, it's just how it is, regardless of how we wish it wasn't so.

[@katebloggs8243]

There are enough counterexamples to prove that myth is bullshit enabling of “traditional” abuse in music pedagogy.

[@LIXX963]

She is a true musical guitar player!!! You add one more guitar technically is chamber music!! It true hard to write!!!! Wish I could do it!!!!

[@paolomasone3754]

Love it! Next something on Maria Luisa Anido and the relationship between classical and popular music?

[@PINCHSHOTGUITAR]

Paganini un the Guitare

[@MrGuitarman8000]

Yahmihito Kamikaze is the best classical guitarist ever! I just listened to him before this. Lol Using the word impoverished is foolish.

[@johndevilbiss6607]

""Chamber Music"" can include a solo that's performed within a chamber without electronic amplification... just saying

[@JoseGarcia-eadgbe]

💫🎵🎶🎵🕊️🔥💎🌀

[@Krj1332]

Superb! Interesting is good and this video was very, very interesting. Tonebase is so fortunate to have talented musicians like Jakob and Stephanie as contributors. I hope they will produce more duets, soon!

[@seemingmusic]

Is this your trajectory Jakob and Stephanie? 😂

[@niceguitar6144]

So, talent is always obvious, and never what you wanted to be. There is such thing as objective truth, and talent is not an exception to this rule. Second, to become Mozart or Presti, i'm sorry to mention them in the same sentence, but enormous sacrifice is required on the part of children, and on the part of their parents. I guarantee you fathers aren't having a ball being draconian tyrants through endless hours of practice. Yes, they didn't have a childhood, but they had a wonderful career and produced unforgettable music, a gift to the whole world. It is not possible to have everything in life, it's just how it is, regardless of how we wish it wasn't so. By the way, talent is nurture, and most definitely it is nature, God given, even if it's a matter of having the natural ability to focus longer, to persist more, to just be better than the other kid after an hour of practice.

[@katebloggs8243]

There is no god and counterhistories can be placed alongside yours that would prove you are an enabler and excuser of abuse, pure and simple. Music pedagogy has this myth you share and it is BS. Patriarchal lies. “I’m hurting you because I love you.” Please join the modern era. I am sorry you were abused, but please do not push this self-protective illusion onto others.

[@MethenySco]

One will only obsessively pursue something at which they have an aptitude. Musical talent obviously exists, sorry. No use trying to rhetorically side-step the issue, or console people by saying they can do it too, with infinite hours of practice. No, they can't. One is born with the cognitive capacities necessary to reach greatness. No amount of practice can compensate. Your child prodigies at the beginning prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

[@resound7]

Funny, not, this was preceded by a Taylor swift ad…

[@StopFear]

Sorry guys, but this video is kind of pretentious sometimes. Little cringey with some descriptions that sound exaggerated

[@MethenySco]

Yeah, like we can solve the whole question in just a few remarks. Agreed.

[@alrisan71]

that's what marketing in music is about: the mythification of the artist.

[@stevejarosz8136]

@@alrisan71^^^^^

[@spencerdieck1665]

Unfortunately agree. Can’t put my finger on specifically why.

[@steveb9325]

This a 16 minute tonebase sponsored video. I think what Jakob and Stephanie presented was well done in such a short video on Ida Presti. Hardly pretentious. Thank you Tonebase! As well Jakob and Stephanie!🙏

[@christopherstanford5599]

❤

[@NoName-zn1sb]

Too much talking, and captioning gimmicks

[@MariapatriciaCepeda]

Oda a la Virgen del Carmen patrona de Sabanalarga.

[@commandercontraband]

you're so wrong............................sis Rosetta Tharpe was the driving force behind the electric guitar.she was rocking before any of the big named guitarists and she was a church musician, singer , song writer. She was the inspiration of ALL the great guitarists

[@muyybe]

Where is Tina's?

[@GuitareClassique]

Thanks so much for this video, 2 days before Ida's centenary.

[@kirk290]

Excellent work, Jakob and Stephanie.

[@HomeFromFarAway]

Learning what works without rigid "teaching" from a supposed expert who told her to hold her hands differently for no real reason probably gave her the speed and accuracy denied to kids who are taught more myopically

[@MichaelAddlesee]

Great video. Content and production both excellent. Keep up the good work.

[@jean-pierresemeraro7994]

Thank you very much Jakob and Stephanie for this tribute to this great, unparalleled virtuoso artist. Jean-Pierre SEMERARO

[@miprofe1063]

And thanks to you, M. Semeraro, for all the wonderful videos of Presti's playing that you have contributed.

[@jean-pierresemeraro7994]

@@miprofe1063 With great pleasure! I owe him my vocation as a musician. I never understood why this guitar genius was forgotten for over 40 years. Fortunately I kept all his recordings so I could finally publish them. Jean-Pierre Semeraro

[@tomgutierrez7573]

@@jean-pierresemeraro7994 "I owe her my vocation to her as a musician." Je peux dire la même chose!

[@UrosGuitar]

Great job, Jakob and Steph, beautiful video essay! Ida Presti is one of my favorite guitarists of all time.

[@omarbezzi]

I think consciousness is what differs a talented ... And an ok musician. If someone is 100 % excited about practice , and is 100 % present of correct practice . There is no obstacle for him / her to reach the best version possible

[@randykalish7558]

Love your analysis of what is talent. What we call great is surely a reflection of our own opinion: it is great because I enjoy it and I recognize something there that I trust is great. Surely Music herself takes no pleasure in such divergence? Just be moved, or not.

[@mer1red]

In those days, training and discipline often meant going so far as to cause physical injuries. There are testimonials of self mutilation, guitarists ruining their left hand permanently with extreme finger stretching exercises. Nowadays people are more concerned about their health and good ergonomics. Playing with a bent versus straight wrist is no longer a matter of dogma. A bent wrist poses risks to your joints, tendons and ligaments. Our vision and knowledge about the use of the instrument evolves, and that is a good thing.

[@tomgutierrez7573]

Bent wrists are not necessary but afaik there is not much evidence for damage as a result. The Presti Lagoya School emphasised relaxation above all else and, let's face it, their duo has never been surpassed.

[@mer1red]

@@tomgutierrez7573 First: the performances of this duo are indeed excellent. That is not my point. Regarding the wrist: there is evidence. I omit the details. Relaxation can enhance the damage of a joint in a wrong position because muscle tension may offer some protection.

[@tomgutierrez7573]

​​​@@mer1redThat is a most unsubstantive reply, generalised and lacking in any kind of evidence. As Jakob says in the video, some find this kind of position very natural for their hands.