ToneWood Debate ANSWERED! Miracle of Nature or Mere Myth?

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@CityofGold-yp6wt 2 ай бұрын

For fun, I recorded a metal track on my 335. It sounds exactly like the metal tracks I recorded with a Solar, and ESP, and a Jackson. 335 has Burstbuckers, Solar has Duncans, ESP has EMG's, and the Jackson has Jackson branded pups. Sound is barely even in the pups. Its in the amp model, the mix, the speakers, the mic... I get it, we spend a LOT on a guitar, and we REALLLLLY want that flame maple top, or Ebony fretboard, or mahogany body to mean something... but it just doesnt. All the songs are on my channel if you want to guess what was recorded on what guitar.

@SloppyGoat 5 ай бұрын

Glenn has done a lot of clean examples too, since people were bitching about that. The graphs don't lie. I have a degree in electronics theory. The most difference in sound you're going to hear from a solid body electric guitar is from the electronics. And no, not pickups. Mics and speakers. You know where most of my sound comes from? My freaking pedal board, with my EQ, and my speakers. Pickups are just preamps. They really don't make that much of a difference. Unless we're talking about humbucker vs single coil. The only things that matter in pickups are how many coils, how many windings, and how strong the magnets are. That's not tone. That's all electronic variables. And everyone overlooks what's actually inside the guitar, like the potentiometers, filter caps, etc. Let's face it, guitarists are not usually electronics guys, at all. 😆😆😆 As Glenn has mentioned, most guitarists don't even know what kind of speakers are in their amps/cabs, and that is the biggest difference in tone you will ever get out of an electric guitar. ✌️ The most important pedal on my board is my EQ. Without a doubt.

@Guitar88 4 ай бұрын

You can alter the acoustic sound/feel yes,but the amplified sound not, I mean we have plenty of Proof that materials doesn't change the amplified sound, Jim Lill, Glenn himself, and also Duncan from dkg custom, they debunk all of this,not to mention that acrylic bodied guitars and metal bodied guitars sound like any other guitar! Cheers

@Rossdink 2 ай бұрын

You can watch any video playing a telecaster and a semi hollow body telecaster and hear the difference.

@Guitar88 2 ай бұрын

@@Rossdink just like I can pick 2 les pauls or 2 strats same pickups same production line and they sound different and still is not the wood

@dannyraysmusicproduction6604 8 ай бұрын

“The Tonewood Legislator” Excellent!!!

@RayPlaysGuitar 8 ай бұрын

Hey Danny! Thanks for watching!

@dannyraysmusicproduction6604 8 ай бұрын

@@RayPlaysGuitar it was a good one!!!

@FuzzyForties 8 ай бұрын

Good vid! Completely agree with you man. I made a series of videos about electronics and tone, and the conclusion is the same, all matter in major or minor way, but is not that important unless you are in a mix and the guitar does not fit well. Apart from that, play what the hell you like most hahaha, no matter what. New sub here 🤘🏼

@RayPlaysGuitar 7 ай бұрын

Agreed brother! Rock onward!!!

@robphillips8351 4 ай бұрын

@@RayPlaysGuitar absolutely agree, it's common sense and physics ..

@Cakebattered 2 ай бұрын

As someone who builds loudspeakers for a hobby, the tonewood argument is beyond laughable in regards to electric guitars. Its also lacks merit even with acoustics, because the shape and internal volume of the enclosure will dictate the tone, not the type of wood or material. Hence the growing popularity in carbon fiber acoustic guitars and violins. If only electric guitar makers would focus on better setups and fret work and less on tonewood, buyers would be happier with their high priced guitar purchases.

@SloppyGoat 5 ай бұрын

And, let me guess? Those tubes on that metal guitar are hollow, right? Not solid.

@RayPlaysGuitar 4 ай бұрын

The tone bars are solid.

@SloppyGoat 4 ай бұрын

@@RayPlaysGuitar Interesting.

@lumberlikwidator8863 7 ай бұрын

Audiologists will tell you that no one has ever heard the real sound of their own voice, because your voice is colored by the bones in your skull. And if you listen to a recording of your voice it is colored by the recording and playback equipment. So the tonewood debate is settled. There are people who can’t hear the difference between maple and mahogany because of the very thick bones of their skull.

@RayPlaysGuitar 7 ай бұрын

😆 Can't argue with that logic!

@tanner4828 2 ай бұрын

I don't know anything except that my 'cheap' guitar (squier tele) has kind of a crappy sound whether it's plugged in or not. And my 'expensive' guitar (epiphone LP) sounds better both plugged in and not. Maybe it's not the 'wood' per se, but something else in the construction of the instrument. I don't know. But for clean tones I think there is some kind of tone wood influence.

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@@tanner4828 single coils on the Tele and humbuckers on the epiphone??

@chosenideahandle 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, you’re missing a lot of other components that aren’t the wood or pickups. They also happen to be what’s making differences between the way a guitars sound that has the same pick ups. Pickups aren’t microphones, they’re only affected by the metal strings and what comes in contact with them. Yes it’s true, wood makes zero difference to tone in an electric guitar. You’re also better off being near your cab than the guitar when you’re listening (unless it’s an acoustic guitar of course). You don’t have to be a guitar player to discover any of this.

@RayPlaysGuitar 4 ай бұрын

You say other components that aren't wood or pickups contribute to the sound of the guitar while also saying that wood makes zero difference in an electric guitar. Why would other component affect the tone while wood woodn't.

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@@RayPlaysGuitar if your experience tells you the wood of an electric guitar makes a difference then your experience is flawed. Sorry.

@adamwilcox6405 3 ай бұрын

Myth, next.

@Rossdink 2 ай бұрын

People always think things are myths and then they turn around and believe Bigfoot and aliens have arrived haha

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@Rossdink nah that's more likely suggestable people who think wood can possibly have an impact on vibrating metal amplified by a magnet.

@Rossdink 2 ай бұрын

@ it does though it’s just not much

@Rossdink 2 ай бұрын

If what you’re saying is true then a semi hollow body guitar would make zero difference in tone Wood has different density and resonance of course it will make a difference just like a hollow body will make a difference.

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@Rossdink which is quite right and it doesn't.

@Tonebreakfast 7 ай бұрын

kzbin.infosROPMI7ndB0?si=DtZqJGhx8_nhvd6b I tried speak into a single coil and heard my voice , I think for this guitar , tone of wood can go through the pickup also.

@RayPlaysGuitar 7 ай бұрын

Some pickups are even much more microphonic than others. I've spoken into some of my pickups without boosting any gain and you can hear my voice as clear as day. Thanks for watching!

@ulfdanielsen6009 Ай бұрын

Guitar pickups are NOT microphonic! They concist of a copper wire wrapped around one or 6-7-8-9 coil(s) with a magnet stuck to the bottom. There IS NO moving diaphragm! Hence, not microphonic.

@RayPlaysGuitar Ай бұрын

Except when they are. Microphonics can occur when a wire vibrates or a metal cover is loose. It's more common at high volumes and with hollow body guitars, which resonate acoustically more. Some say that microphonics are a key part of the vintage PAF tone. Some pickups are even made to be microphonic on purpose.

@iloveitall 8 ай бұрын

Every gutar sounds different and if they are from the same wood it is more likely that they sound similar. That's the whole thing. People who doubt this are simply not experienced enough or have a passion in starting controversy.

@RayPlaysGuitar 7 ай бұрын

Agreed!

@chosenideahandle 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, it still has nothing to do with the wood (or passion lol).

@iloveitall 4 ай бұрын

@@chosenideahandle False, Wood is the decisive factor for sound.

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@@iloveitall false it really isn't simple physics would tell you that.

@iloveitall 2 ай бұрын

@@adamwilcox6405 So which physics do I have to take into consideration? Always willing to learn.

@iancurrie8844 6 ай бұрын

I challenge you to google "electric violin." There isn't even any wood. Why is that?

@RayPlaysGuitar 6 ай бұрын

Problem with amplifying a violin is you run into feedback issues at higher volume levels. Same problem happens with hollow-body guitars, uncontrollable feedback once amplified. The solution for guitar was the soid-body guitar. But if you made a violin out of solid wood it would be too heavy to play properly. So other materials are often used to make electric violins. You can put a pickup on a violin made of wood and it will usually have more of a natural sound whereas bodyless electric violins usually sound more "electric" to me, much like the difference between an amplified acoustic guitar and an electric guitar.

@stevepride2761 8 ай бұрын

Even drummers like this informative video. Types of wood used in percussion has tonal differences. Why wouldn't a guitar acoustic or electric. Just sayin'.

@RayPlaysGuitar 7 ай бұрын

I agree with you Steve. Wood definitely makes a difference on an acoustic guitar the same way it would on a drum shell, but for some reason some folks don't think that wood contributes much to the sound of an electric guitar but think that all the tone is generated by the pickups.

@adamwilcox6405 2 ай бұрын

@@RayPlaysGuitar bloody hell it's quite simple. The sound on an acoustic instrument comes from the sound bouncing around the body. An electric guitar is the amplification of a vibrating metal string on a rigid structure by a magnet wrapped in a coil.

@johnabela8283 8 ай бұрын

Preaching to the choir. Amen!

@SloppyGoat 5 ай бұрын

If David Gilmour is playing two different guitars, they're both set up differently. Different electronics, different everything. So yeah, you would expect them to sound different. I absolutely cannot stand that new Gretsch he's using. That "special" sound he's talking about, is actually just weaker pickups. It ain't no Strat. And you sure as hell can tell, when he tries to play the Comfortably Numb solo on that. That made me cringe. That is just not a good guitar for Pink Floyd leads. 😬 Maybe for some of the softer stuff, but it can't replace that Strat.

@pecamian 3 ай бұрын

Sorry sir, but unless you can show proof of what you say, yours are just words

@RayPlaysGuitar 2 ай бұрын

My testimony alone isn't going to change the mind of a doubting Thomas, but your doubt doesn't discount my experience with the Birdfish guitar. But check out some other videos about Ulrich Teuffel, there are some interesting interviews with the man. Thanks for watching!

@robphillips8351 4 ай бұрын

Okay so let's have a concrete guitar vs a mahogany guitar.. i guarantee you will here a difference.. the most important points of a guitars tone are the frets and fretboard, bridge and saddles, and nut, as well as what they are mounted to. Pickups pots wires etc, it all adds up. The sum of all things being greater than just one.