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[@rockoutmichigan]

It's like watching a young Bill Murray roast guitar players.

[@bluesvertigo3961]

😂😂 YES!!

[@brisson182]

What about Landon?!

[@stuminnis4050]

I get more of a Norm McDonald vibe than Bill Murray.

[@mightyV444]

There's a German singer/songwriter named Klaus Hoffmann whose young self Landon reminds me of 😊 I do see/hear the Bill Murray resemblance to a degree too, though 😁

[@ducdanjou7885]

Lol

[@thebigsmooth99]

They sound slightly different, but it does not matter. Your preference might depend on which side of the bed you woke up on that morning. Play the one that feels better.

[@leereyno]

I could hear a subtle difference between them, but I had no idea which one was which. I'd be interested to see how the wood affects sustain since I know the one you just worked on uses really light wood.

[@AdaptivePhenix]

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[@UrzaTron707]

Yeah, you could..

[@THEItchybruddah]

Only one I could tell for sure was the first clip. (Bends felt/sounded smoother) gain stuff was wicked close. Also appreciate the choice of tune on the first example. Nicely done!

[@DarkVelizar]

I've put the original tele 52s pickups 🎉from the 1999 model in a HarleyBentonTE-62CC, and in that sam fender tele is the Lollar set. Since I've made the change, I mostly play that HB, because the playability is so much better and much easier to pull those bends.

[@kutsbothways]

Quite a difference. I chose the GH modeI asY immediateIy...but then I have one from the first run in 2017 and so heard my guitar. The GH modeI I have is a very nice guitar and sounds different than my other TeIe's. Those grey bottom p/u's. I aIso have an 89 '62 reissue TeIecaster that i have worn the frets out on and so wiII be using the GH rosewood whiIe it is being refretted.

[@tjbitt65]

Guitar X sounded warmer to me, but had no idea which was which. Both sounded good. 🤓

[@Guitarnado]

Some good points!

[@jricoc3475]

The takeaway is that those are great-sounding pickups. Both sounded great, but you had me at "I'd Have You Anytime". Love when you do George licks with "Rosey". Maybe some "Let it Down" chordwork the next time it makes an appearance ...

[@ILuvJazzNJava]

Got it right, even listening through my crappy iPhone speaker. Especially on the clean tone you can hear how the rosewood construction of guitar y rolls off the top end and has a bit mellower sound overall. It’s why I love rosewood as my favourite tone wood.

[@kiereluurs1243]

'Tone-wood'.

[@corneliuscrewe677]

No idea which was which, but x sounded warmer in the neck pickup, brighter in the middle, and warmer in the bridge to me. Both sounded really good, but I actually preferred the warmth of X. To me, the takeaway is different woods can and do sound different, but whether or not it matters is another thing all together. I've got way too many favorite guitars made from weird stuff to subscribe to conventional rosewood tropes, but I like certain woods for feel and looks. Really, you must need good solid lumber. Everything else is secondary.

[@dawoud8013]

what is matter first after pickups : strings, nut material (frets when your are playing notes) and bridge saddles material.

[@MattSwain1]

I think I could detect a difference but to my ears (I do have a cold right now so my hearing isn’t at it’s best) neither sounded bad so the expensive one would be wasted on me (if sound was the only criteria I was judging on - I would hope for better fit and finish on the guitar with more expensive wood, not always a given though)

[@4034miguel]

A video I watched was about the nut, and it demonstrated how the nut really had an impact on the way the string sounded: It was the same guitar but the nuts were changed. It was Graphtec vs Nut vs Synthetic nut and wow! that affected the tone drastically. In this case, I think that, each guitar having different nut, that gave the difference in timbre I heard, given that the strings were also the same in both guitars.

[@landonbailey]

That’s nuts

[@Clinthopanonymous]

that rosewood on the tele looks so good

[@shorockyuken5761]

I cut the pieces from X and Y and I pasted them one after the other in very short samples. I hear the same sound. There are differences in the way the guitar is touched every time, otherwise it's the same sound.

[@JPeterpage]

The firts one is rosewood. The other one would be the Lyx. Im not pretty sure If there is a difference. Based on the tonewood "theory" I perceived more rounded sound in the first one. The second one sound dryer and more sharp. Anyway, I would be gladly surprised If the result is not match with my perception.

[@shaunw9270]

I'm drunk and stoned, so my opinion doesn't count but my advice is to put those pickups into a lightweight alder body with steel saddles and mate it to a period correct maple neck with a round lam rosewood fingerboard 🙂

[@georgesrosewoodtele99]

Guitar X would be a great choice for The Rutles.

[@50Something]

X seemed to have scratchy frets on the neck sample and Y sounded balanced as if it had a pro setup so I'm going for Y as the Rosewood tele.

[@veikkajoensuu]

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[@guitarsfunmods3986]

Totally agree, I noticed which one is which after hearing the y neck clean. So in this case the build quality and the hardware made the y guitar's tone very round and balanced. To my ears, both of the guitars tone are same, but the Harrison tele's tone is really round and balanced, and i'm sure it's not because of the tone wood. I think if a master builder builds a guitar with an inferior wood, as long as it's dry and hard enough, with proper hardware, it will sound excellent.

[@buddhamus]

I could not guess which guitar was X and Y, however, I did like the sound of guitar X (the LyxPro) better than guitar Y (the Fender) in the mix position, but I preferred the sound of Y in the neck position. In the bridge position, both pickups sounded OK. Guess I'm not much help in this debate. 😁

[@johnsenior2566]

Y is it so much better? Keep rocking the Kasbah!

[@ReelDealOutdoorsTV]

Definitely heard more of the high end on X, but honestly it was difficult to tell which guitar was which until you did the high gain comparison. I remember you saying that the cheap bridge on X made the pinging noise in a previous video, and that was very noticeable when you were muting on it. Didn't hear that with the Fender. But definitely a brighter sound from the cheaper guitar... I've always heard rosewood has a darker sound so maybe there is something to the woods having an impact on tone 🤷‍♂ Could also be the cheaper bridge material on the X guitar. And the Fender is chambered I think, which might have an impact. All kinds of possible explanations. Cool video though 👍

[@fguitars1106]

Are electronical components the same? Is pickup height the same?

[@peterbayliss1484]

I love your comedy act; with a little bit of guitar talk thrown in 🤣

[@davidmecey7209]

I thought and picked Y as more enjoyable on every setting. The other wasn't bad at all Y was just my preference across the board

[@nieko3038]

Liked the clean of Y and X with a bit of gain. Based on the clean one my bet was on Y as the rosewood one. There is always a tone knob to use for getting the right tone. EVH uses basswood. That is seen as inferior by many.

[@peterwilson8039]

Tele players always have both knobs turned up all the way. Any other setting 'strangles' 🤔 the tone.

[@jasondorsey7110]

Basswood is actually pretty good for bass guitars...many of the japanese fenders/squiers have used basswood, going all the way back to the mid-80s

[@Nizodizo]

I like alot of henry's in my guitar.

[@dinkaboutit4228]

I don't want to get into a whole thing... 😁 but I believe the George Harrison rosewood telecaster is chambered the same way a thinline tele is, but not ported (no f-hole). So assuming the $100 Amazon is NOT, I'm not sure how valid a comparison of woods this would be.

[@PaulCooksStuff]

X sounded a smidge spikier on two of the comparisons, and Y marginally softer. Which is a good thing or a bad thing, depending on what sound you want. Put them in a band mix, and I doubt I'd still discern slight differences.

[@elnyoutube123]

You would get more of a difference if anything

[@KLBoringBand]

It’s probably the pickups not set to the same height. Wood makes no difference in tone.

[@aminahmed2220]

What a fantastic video have you had a good Christmas Landon ❤😊

[@calbrockocat8728]

Eerily similar. The biggest difference should be playability and we can't hear that. Happy New Year to the Bailey household!

[@NoelHaven]

2 things, only guessed correctly because I could tell intonation was off on X, so the “good” one had to be Y. Secondly, for some reason I preferred the sound of X on mild gain/both pickups. Mind blowing data I’ve collected here today 🤘🏻🤓😂

[@johnmac8084]

Same here

[@GCKelloch]

At first, I guessed wrong, but then changed my mind b4 the reveal because Y seemed to have a more "neutral" tonal character. BTW, it sounds like the bridge PUP may be slightly higher on X. Even ~10% height difference can be audible in some way. That could easily be less than a 0.5mm difference. There's ~6dB loss every 2x distance from the string, as well as some loss in the lower harmonic and attack to sustain ratio. I didn't know Fender made a Tele bridge pickup that low inductance. 2.8H is early-mid 60s Strat level.

[@brunswicksquaremusic5905]

I mean, the soft plywood that Squiers are made from matters when your strap buttons and other parts start falling out on stage, but I suspect the people who love those things don’t play out a whole lot.

[@benv6875]

Bob & Doug McKenzie..........hoser eh?😂 I picked Y as the rosewood. I don't think the difference was great, and besides my hearing isn't , but the Harrison Tele is chambered and the pickups were supposed to be wound to complement the chambering so to me, the Y seemed more "resonant" ; but not different in tone.

[@POSminiracer]

I don't have the ear to hear a difference if there was one but if there were you could blame it on the controls if they aren't the same couldn't you? Or does that not affect it either?

[@pearlygeoff3837]

There was a slight natural reverb in the Y so guess it's the rosewood body.

[@jeremythornton433]

Your show never fails to make me smile! I couldn't even begin to guess which sound belonged to which guitar. Doesn't matter though. One had older strings! Just kidding!

[@vinniesworld459]

Hrmm i liked guitar Y more during the "Just" riff, but thought X sounded nicer (less pokey) during the mild gain/neck and bridge comparison.

[@CompletePandemonium]

Fun comparison. The only significant difference I heard was on the dual pickup setting. "Y" seemed a bit more biased to the bridge pickup.

[@corneliuscrewe677]

I heard that as well. I was hearing a bit more fullness and warmth from X in the neck and bridge, too. Especially the neck.

[@alsner73]

Just went through that totally blind as I was sorting washing out, I had no idea which guitar was what and tbh it all sounded like one guitar.

[@dragan4658]

I preferred x pups over y as it sounded fuller to me and I prefered that tone.

[@jonjones655]

My guess is Y is the Harrison, because it's richer and fuller sounding. Wood does make a difference in my ears.

[@danielversion1.035]

There was a slight difference in my opinion... but as for which was "better", i think it depended on whether you were on bridge or neck! I thought the cheap one sounded better on neck whereas the rosewood tele was more visceral on bridge. Interestingly, (or not... probably not) I have two strats with the exact same Lace Sensor Red, Silver, Blue pickups. One is an '07 Squier Affinity with an old worn in rosewood neck, and probably a 5 piece garbage tier wood body under the paint... and it had a professionally loaded PickGuard (with hot pots) dropped straight into it, the other is a Mexican Player which has everything stock except for only the pickups themselves... (same strings on both guitars...) and the Squier sounds better! It picks up the harmonics waaayyy better on the bridge pickup. Not that the Player sounds trash, the Squier just sounds better! Not sure if it's the wiring, or the wood... but neither are painted white... soooo....

[@jralanmorgan]

What are 'hot pots'?

[@VeitLehmann]

I got it right. But this might have been pure luck, I only found the neck pickup example really representative. And I slightly preferred the rosewood guitar. But not by much, and in the 2nd example, I actually preferred the maple guitar. One doesn't sound objectively better than the other, it's all a matter of taste. Regarding tone wood, I think that the influence is minor, and the fretboard and neck should have the biggest influence, the body wood very little. Especially if you have a heavy bridge. And construction, i. e. the type of bridge, scale length and neck joint, have a far bigger influence on sound. The biggest influence will always be the pickups/electronics, pickup positions, and strings.

[@unpluggedtoaster2164]

Y sounds broader in tone and it leads to a more crunchy distorted tone, but that is most likely due to the better electronics. wood doesn’t matter.

[@Shaun.Stephens]

Obsidian Wire electronics are every bit as good as Fender. In fact I consider them to be better (with the Pots, treble bleed circuit and terminals mounted on a PCB) and have replaced all of my electronics with Obsidian Wire.

[@bober770]

I guessed right that x is that cheaper guitar and y is rosewood. simply because rosewood should give out more low mids. but the reason between them was quite mild, to be honest.

[@jasonswitzer1748]

Guitar X sounded warmer, but the differences were negligible. I’m guessing that since Les Paul’s are made of mahogany and sound warm, Guitar X must be the mahogany. But I got it wrong! So what do I know? The pickups DO sound good.

[@univoxbassman1119]

Y has a much, much more focused and tight sound. It is especially apparent on the final sound sample. Cool demo.

[@ltgray2780]

Y was tighter, only noticeable under gain.

[@petesmith6434]

Of course the wood a guitar is made of has an effect on the tone of the guitar…just like every component and construction method that goes into its manufacture. The question is how much difference each of these factors affect the tone and is that difference actually noticeable. In the case of PRS guitars, I can hear the differences in tone from one guitar model that is manufactured to one set of specs from another that was constructed using other specification. I believe this is because of the high level of craftsmanship and development fine-tuning of each component that PRS puts into each model. I can’t heat much difference from one model to others from other manufacturers.

[@WarrenPostma]

Lotta people have tonewood in between they ears. I like the sound of Y better clean, the sound sustained and the overtones had time to open up. Both sound great dirty, no preference. I had no real idea which was which. Besides the wood in the body, the wood in the neck, and the setup would also affect your sustain. If the height of the strings over the pickups was higher on one or the other, it would have had an effect on level, I suppose. I do think in any comparison of more expensive guitar with less expensive, one of them usually has a better setup and overall better intonation. Knowing what difference is down to WOOD itself, there's a video out there where dude controlled for as much of that as he could. It gets nuts.

[@peterwilson8039]

I guessed right this time. I guess right on these things about 50% of the time, and there is no way that could possibly happen just by chance. But honestly if I came into this thing believing that tone wood made no difference, (I did), there wasn't enough of a difference there to make me change my mind.

[@Shaun.Stephens]

I guessed right but based on the way they were played. You just can't help yourself Landon, you bring your A game when you pick up that expensive guitar. Edit: Does the rosewood Tele have an Obsidian Wire kit in it (or otherwise have a treble-bleed circuit)? Happy New Year!

[@pyratoothNL]

Only difference to me was when you did both pickups with mild gain that X had more screech. For the rest, not really any difference between the two. Certainly not that you'd say there was a 3K difference between the two. Gain and compression blurs differences anyway, but even I was surprised at how close the neck pickups were on clean.

[@peterwilson8039]

That's what I heard, but I wouldn't be playing anything that sounded that nasty anyway.

[@hkguitar1984]

I guessed correctly, mostly Guitar Y was in better intonation, I figured the Fender would be setup better.

[@williambryngnas840]

same here

[@hkguitar1984]

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[@egnbigdave]

Definitely a difference.. but the other difference is from looking at the two the relative pickup placement in relation to the bridge saddles - the Harrison seems to appear to have a wider spacing from the bridge pickup to the saddles, and more space between bridge and neck pickups (may just be me)

[@weczq4]

I could tell some slight differences, but not enough to really stake an opinion on anything. I haven't watched the guitar video on the Amazon tele, but I wonder if the differences all come down to the pots and guts of each guitar.

[@markstevens1729]

Going with X being the rosewood. It just sounds more like a guitar. The other one has oddly mutings in the range of notes. I had it backward!

[@Shaun.Stephens]

Possibly because the Obsidian Wire electronics has a built-in treble-bleed circuit.

[@mightyV444]

LOL! I had actually read it as 'arsewood' in the thumbnail, too! 😄

[@max_archer]

Personally I find it hard to believe that the wood doesn't at least subtly effect the sound. A guitar, at its core, makes sound through string vibrations, and a change in the material those strings are attached to change the way they vibrate at least a little bit, especially on a Tele since the strings go right through the body. That said I think the effect is probably tiny enough that it's basically irrelevant for actual music, and only perceptible when doing A-B comparisons in a controlled environment, at least with normal guitar woods. (It might be more noticeable with a balsa wood body, or a plastic or metal one, or whatever.) I'd love to see somebody REALLY put the whole thing to the test, find two guitars from the same manufacturer that are identical other than body wood and then swap the entire electronics package between them (a Strat would probably be ideal for this, since you can just swap the whole pickguard over, maybe even add a front jack so that could carry over too) and see if there's any difference.

[@lonegroover]

A rosewood fingerboard is lovely for half-diminished chords, except on the back bickup (where ebony is preferred).

[@dtmateo]

I could not guess but X sounded bassier and warmer. Has more dynamics. Y was kinda mid-focused with more presence.

[@jonlavigne3270]

I got it wrong at first but changed my mind before the reveal and got it right.

[@norseman61]

Thank GOD I got it right. And yes, they did sound different. Not sure if it’s the “tone wood”, but I’m betting the massive difference in the density of the bodies came into play. Is that the same thing as tone wood? Maybe… juuust maybe… it is. Dammit, I spilled my macchiato.

[@davidburke2132]

If one is being sensible then the “tonewood” point is that different pieces of wood can and do sound different. It’s not a “this wood is good and this wood is bad” kind of argument, and it’s not even a “mahogany always sounds like this and ash always sounds like that” kind of argument either. Different pieces of the same species of wood can and do also sound different, and one of the big reasons is the density point you mention. So yes, I’d say density variation is all wrapped up in the “tonewood” topic.

[@Robert_Bubba_Baker]

I did geuss it but it was extremely subtle. Was the wiring and bridge changed on the $100 guitar? Just goes to show you that price isn’t always what makes a guitar sound good. Would there be a different if you run them through a shitty amp. Shitty speaker cab?

[@Cougar139tweak]

Simple...Tonewood is used in making fine wood instruments, for the same reason you use good wood (Hardwood) to build anything. Fit and Finish, less shrinkage, no blowouts when you drill them, no fuzz when you carve them. Less to no warping easy to work with and reliable over time, because if you can't fret or tune a string because the neck is a spiral, tone suffers. But that doesn't impress people a NAMM does it?

[@Lamarro]

the sound is slightly different but this is also the thing about "Tonewood" where people think different tree types will have a very specific sound to them but actually all that matters is the weight and densitity of the wood. string vibrates - wood vibrates ... both vibrate ... both will interact with another doing that = changes tone ... simple physics. it wond be night and day tho ... the difference will be rather subtle but still everyone looses their mind about that i dont get it

[@canyonproductions7683]

I need a Tele again

[@richardclark.]

only time your tone can be referred to as Lyx Arse and sounds great at the same time.

[@NotAuxell]

they sound exactly the same except on the middle position, I don't really know why.

[@JeffandLeslie]

I could not tell from the video which was which. I heard a difference but, honestly, no more difference than you would hear playing any 2 similar guitars. You can pick 2 Fender Telecasters off the shelf, play them through the same amp and there may be slight differences and that is what I heard here, slight differences. I'm an acoustic and bass player so most of the lead guys will think I'm some kind of Neanderthal but I still believe most of the "tone" from electric guitars come from the pickups and what amp/speaker/FX loop combo is being played. I don't think body shape or tone wood makes that much difference. OK, flame away.

[@yashinisuki]

I’m actually surprised how much difference there was between them. I liked X for cleans, but Y sounded definitely better for mild and high gain.

[@WarrenPostma]

That's interesting. The reverse for me. I like Y cleans, and like both dirty.

[@mortonwilson795]

Yup - that's where I arrived at. The clean neck on X had a touch of our George's intro licks on Octopussys Garden - I THINK he used the Rosewood Tele on Abbey Road for that. Whatever - still want the Rosewood Tele! 😅

[@nigelbarnes818]

I thought X had a harshness in the high end, but Y didn't sound much different to me, which was surprising. Y sounded slightly better with gain, but both were still a little spikey for my taste. However, since that wasn't the question, you can ignore that comment. Did the tone wood make a difference? Slightly, but not as much as I thought it wood. (See what I did there? Sorry, I'm a dad. It comes with the territory) 😁😎 P.S. I put on headphones to get a fuller range of frequencies. P.P.S. I enjoy your videos Landon. Thanks.

[@michaelsmith2785]

In addition to the woods, they also have different bridges, for what that's worth...?

[@samizdat113]

I'm almost positive that Y was the second guitar in each comparison.

[@EricJohnson-fh8zj]

I don't care, I wasn't the George lol. I know electric tonewood makes a miniscule differencebin most instances. Especially after they get burried in a mix and have some gain...but that guitar looks amazing. I bet if feels amazing too. Not to mention the inspiration I'd get from it...just knowing what it's based on. And that, my friend...is priceless 👌

[@KPGuitarStudios]

X is the LyxPro Arsewood body and the Y guitar is the Fender not-Arsewood body :P The X guitar seems to have a more pointed tone palette? Like it was sharper, there was a wider range of frequencies on tap with the Y guitar in the mids and low highs. Is it possible to get a great tone out of both? Yes! Therefore tonewood is Conservative and pickups are Catholic... I mean Arsewood for the win :P

[@KatmanJazznBlues]

Y is the rosewood guitar it sounds deeper

[@dbullcutter]

I didn't try to guess, which one is the x or y. I simply noticed, which sounds I like. Clean, neck: X Mild gain, bridge & neck: X More gain, bridge: Y The same pick ups sound different (not necessarily "better" or "worse") on different guitars. Even if it doesn't seem to make any sense to speak directly of "tonewood" concerning electric guitars, materials (usually wood) and the construction affect the vibration of the strings and the playability of the guitar as well. The latter cannot be transmitted in video. You have to have the guitar in your hand and to play it.

[@JamesDierken]

The only massive difference I heard was in the neck & bridge test because guitar X probably has a wiring issue and only the neck pickup was working. But playing the rest back to back, they were subtle. Playing, guitar setup, pickup height, electronics tolerances, and age of strings were probably the culprit for this, but it's so small that it's probably not something to worry about.

[@landonbailey]

No wiring issue - I FIXED UP THE #1 SELLING GUITAR ON AMAZON - LYXPRO kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2mok5iJnJaBnLM

[@flapjack413]

It really goes to show that wood choice has minimal effect on tone, as well as the consistency of the pickups that Fender is making. I long bought into the myth of tonewood, until I started building guitars about 10 years back. No, not putting pieces of guitars together, but actually making guitars out of rough cut lumber. The more I built, and messed around with different combinations of woods, it really put on display to me how little the choice of wood actually matters regarding electric guitars. As for the guitar itself, the choice of bridge/tailpiece, pickups, and pot vaules are going to have a much bigger impact on it's sound than the wood. I have no problem saying this because I'm not trying to sell you $10k guitars made from fancy woods. Want a really big difference? Start swapping out your speakers.

[@timscarrow9151]

George has a little more top end sizzle when the gain was up.

[@JacubWhite38]

I couldn't tell a difference but I also can't play a guitar so maybe that has something to do with it

[@LOGICNREALITY]

Noone here has played or tested 2 , solid wood guitars, even gibson and fender expensive, or multiple pieces of wood. And videos on youtube can't show the actual sound, you're hearing what he recorded with and whatever speaker or phone you're listening on

[@3cardmonty602]

Are your arms tired from holding the guitars up?

[@Addahasan]

What's very funny is the 100$ guitar sound much more rounder and better IMO on mild gain. Whereas the expensive one was very over bright. That all the difference in regards to Tone. Using highest quality Monitor and did hear the noticable difference in Mild gain only.

[@Mike-oj8xz]

Well I figured y was the pricier one it just didn't sound as clinky or clunky as the x 🎸, and probably more to do with feel do to more stringent quality control at the excessive price point gap. Just saying.....shalum

[@gregmock6808]

Y is the Rosewood tele and a fine tele it is!

[@RedtreeJoe]

It sounded like you were having more fun playing on the expensive guitar, also i think the sound was slightly more pronounced because the wood was harder.

[@michaelcrenshaw4387]

I couldn't identify them, but I preferred the sound of Y.

[@zachjones1716]

The thing that confuses me is: maple = bright, just a solid rosewood neck = bright, rosewood on maple = dark, so this would lead you to believe 2 woods combined = dark, but ebony + maple = bright. And, idek where to start with like a 5 piece neck

[@13aphomet]

I guessed right... But damn they were similar to me..

[@ericajohnson7535]

All pickups are microphonic to an extent. If the pickup is more microphonic, then it picks up some of the sound from the "tonewood", just like a microphone would. Semi/hollow body guitars resonate more, so that the wood actually matters. With normal potted pickups, that are not crazy microphonic, solid body guitars' wood makes almost no difference at all, so little difference that nobody can even tell from the recording. People mostly listen with their eyes. Guitar players play differently because of difference in play-ability -- glossy fretboard vs. rough unfinished fretboard.

[@GitarrenimNetz]

X cold be the Am,azon; Y could be the Fender - but.....

[@DMSBrian24]

Two pickups of the same type can actually produce an audible difference, the exact mounting position relative to the string length matters even more, same with the rest of the hardware like your volume and tone pots. The immediate difference on those guitars can be spotted at the bridge settings, they seem to have different intonations. The 2 guitars sounded ever so slightly different which could be a result of either of the things I listed but primarily as a result of inconsistent playing (this is not criticism, your playing is *very* consistent, but we are still only humans). What the difference did not come from is the wood.

[@kpnash]

So 2 different guitars... I can see those have two different bridges. Different electronics, because pots, caps, wires etc. have tolerances. Different guitar set-ups. Different takes when recording (small changes of picking hand's position and picking attack can bring more difference than we've heard in these clips!). Two different sets of 'same' pickups => those can have tolerances as well. Finally... Even considering the same tonewood, different pieces can resonate differently, there can be variance in density, wood structure etc. We will NEVER prove importance of tonewood with sound tests like this... Which is actually a good thing :)

[@Les537]

I think some say wood doesn't make a difference because they are playing distorted guitar. I can't take anyone serious who thinks wood doesn't contribute to sound. Waves are additive. I can hear the difference in those two guitars, but as you add more gain it goes away.

[@valueofnothing2487]

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