Tony Banks's 1974-1977 live keyboard rig - The Genesis Show 1976 tour rig rundown

Here is a deep dive into the sounds Tony Banks had on stage with Genesis from 1974-1977 as I demonstrate the rig I'll be using with The Genesis Show as we recreate the 1976 tour. Also included is a sneak peek at how I'll play Supper's Ready, and some corrections regarding The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway and Dance On A Volcano.

[@GregDanielakMusic]

Every time I hear an ARP Pro (DGX or Soloist) it just screams Tony Banks to me. Love the way the oscillators sing. Fantastic video!

[@SuperJohnnyO]

This is awesome! Tony is a genius! Great to hear his parts isolated like this!

[@67philipo]

Thanks for sharing. It does not go unnoticed how much effort goes into putting this content together, and getting all the details right

[@edsknife]

Sounds like recording technology has finally caught up to RMI's true potential.

[@therealniksongs]

RMI (Allen) did some prety amazing stuff, including inventing digital sample playback synthesis. (Yes, it's true.) Too bad Allen saw themselves as only a church organ maker and abandoned the pro keyboard market in 1982. Hard to say they made the "wrong" move as they are even today the world leader in their market. But the rest of us are all the poorer for that decision and are left only to wonder what might have been.

[@therealniksongs]

Great job recreating Tony's parts so accurately! And as an "RMI orphan", I especially appreciate your demonstrating how important that unique instrument was to Tony's sound and the sound of Genesis.

[@here_be_frost]

That’s quite quite brilliant! The echoplex is a revelation to me. As it quite how much RMI features on everything during this era. Bravo sir. 💪

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I am open-minded to all analog and digital tools, and the Echoplex is also a revelation to me. I’ve tried two contemporary digital pedal emulations and they don’t come close.

[@rumo201]

Wow! 1000% Genesis-vibes, stunning ❤. Very well played on that old synth-ladies. I‘m excited

[@toddh4491]

Wow, this was truly amazing. Nice to see the old gear still rocking. It was fun to watch Tony's rigs change throughout the decades, I remember the Emulator II especially.

[@KevStevens-Music-Drums-Art]

You're amazing, Matt to be able to work all of these out. Hearing and watching Tony's parts and compositions in isolation, together with your explainations totally highlights what a true genius he is and how much of a kingpin he is to the soundtrack of my life. These were composed when he was in his late teens, early twenties!

[@tackless_music]

Amazing - I've been waiting for this channel, for all my life lol I have a RMI 300B, no pedal assembly. I used to jam a metal pin under the top into the jack whenever I wanted sustain lol I also have a (sadly now broken) ARP ProDGX Mk 2. When I hit the lottery I am going to Three Wave to get it all fixed up. Thank you for everything - easily, obviously the best Genesis music channel and one of the best music channels. I am a hardcore Banksman for life. Will try to catch the upcoming shows!!!!!!!!!!

[@seanicboom]

Amazing video, you’re an absolute inspiration to us Genesis keyboard players and are very much appreciated. The digital mellotron is probably my favourite addition to your rig, it just adds another layer of authenticity. Excited to see what your next upload entails❤

[@IanRichardsProject]

I got a mint brown plastic case, 368X with the wood grain mac tack beside the control levers, this past spring. Most people that look at it have no idea of it's history in prog rock and what an iconic machine it was/is. Back in 1976 I purchased a beat up 300 as my very first keyboard, had to get another one for old times sake!

[@therealniksongs]

They didn't come in brown. The only brown RMI was the ultra rare 68D with touch sensitivity. If that is what you have, you have a true unicorn! Is your RMI touch sensitive? Then it's a 68D. Unless yours is a "customized" 368X. My first pro keyboard was a 300B, purchased new In January 1972. I still have it. It still works. I also have a DK-20, the replacement for the 368x and the last product RMI ever made.

[@IanRichardsProject]

@@therealniksongs Amazing you still have your original machine from 1972. I have thought the same as you on the colour, the 368x actually did come in brown, or perhaps light brown. I just took a picture of mine sitting in my home studio. I found mine in Paris, France a year ago, mint condition. Here is an excerpt from and article about Ron Mael "The keyboardist mainly used two RMI models : The 368 one, which was introduced in 1972, its unit was covered in black vinyl and it was in production until 1974. Then Ron used the 368X model. This model was identical to the 368 with the exception that the unit was manufactured in a hard shell plastic case. Two colors were available, black or brown (black for Ron)". Not sure how to upload a picture of my machine, would be happy to provide one if I knew how or had an address to send it to?? It is very, very cool. Regards,

[@Mr_CB]

Your video took me right back to Seconds Out - thank you. I really admire the work you put in to re-create Tony Banks' set up and to learn all the music too.

[@turnleftaticeland]

thank you so much for posting these, as a young tony banks fanatic i’ve learned so much from your channel! you pretty much have my dream job lol. i just got tickets to see the Genesis Show at the keswick in january, it’ll be my 4th time seeing you guys - honestly my favorite shows i’ve ever been to. so excited for the ’76 stuff! (also, i hope you end up publishing those transcription books. i would buy every volume in an instant!)

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Thanks for buying all those tickets, I wouldn’t be able to do any of this if that didn’t happen!

[@chippywarren9706]

You are a true muso. So nice to hear someone going through this for us! I feel educated, thank you. I so want the Duke keys Tony used. I've used just about every setting I can find from 100's of vst's. I have no clue. Thank you again. 👍

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

The final Duke rig I had is my favorite of all of these and I miss it! However, I am happy to now have the Prophet permanently on top of the CP80 at home.

[@furiobisotti8150]

Unbelievably good! You are a master inside community of Banks emulators!

[@hafstrat]

Outstanding in every respect. ❤️👍🏼

[@stargazer520]

Nice job, Matt. Thanks for the detail in your reproduction and explanation. Loving that RMI. Gonna miss the Quadra on this next tour. 😉

[@vinzsaint]

I really love your setup, It's amazing!

[@Darrin.Crawford]

This is so sooooo incredible Matt!! Thank you ever so much. Sounds so authentic. I didn't think of that delay on Carpet Crawlers until you pointed out. Very interesting. I'm very grateful for the Supper's Ready portion and I guess beggars can't be choosers but I was soooo "hoping" for that slight organ improv during during the guitar solo. Perhaps another video. I thoroughly enjoyed this. THANK YOU SO SO MUCH!! P.S - Congrats on your over 2K subs. Told you it would happen.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I filmed myself rehearsing as part of an assignment with my students. I shared the parts that illustrated the different patches…and had minimal errors 😅

[@tonymason6686]

This is so sick, Matt!!

[@GNeuman]

Fantastic

[@EMoneyB]

Magical!

[@daniws1972]

Thanks, great job. Love this song, the best for me.

[@fmradio42]

In one of the early 70's Genesis concert videos. when the cameraman is walking in the rear of the stage, you can see the spinning part in the Leslie speaker.

[@garywoolcott4271]

so dam good ! You got it going on !

[@headbangerministries]

Pretty fricking awesome!

[@craigturb]

Fantastic sounds. Amazing playing. Thanks for sharing!

[@blh174]

Fascinating! Great video, thanks.

[@icu12cme]

Class, great job

[@jondon9963]

Just watched the first minute and love it! Always thought it was only the guitar playing that part of Dance on a Volcano. New subscriber here.

[@stuartwaby3081]

Thought the same until now!

[@pirated8557]

Fantastic! So interesting 👍🏼

[@maramé.r]

So interesting. I saw the original Genesis live many times in the 70s but had little knowledge of Tony Bank’s gear at the time

[@NicolaMenel]

Awesome, really awesome!! Thanks for sharing!

[@grumblefier]

Inspirational- as always!

[@silverlicious2086]

Cool demonstration and explanations. By coincidence with watching this video today, I just received my Boss (Roland) RE-202 Space Echo today too. Digital version of the original Roland RE-201 Space Echo. Getting ready to unbox and play my vintage Mini Moog through it. Should be epic. Good luck with your shows. Tony Banks is one of my all-time favorite keyboard players.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I’d like to hear what you think. I have the older Boss Space Echo RE-20.

[@silverlicious2086]

Haven't unboxed it yet. Most likely tomorrow or this weekend. I'll let you know.

[@arjannooteboom6817]

Totally enjoyed this, thank you

[@wolfgangmerx]

Very impressive!

[@awaken77]

Special thanks for Supper's Ready keyboard snippets .

[@vibetone355]

Wish could play like this complicated stuff you certainly know your stuff ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@mootbooxle]

This is absolutely fantastic Matt. Thank you for showing this! I had the same ProDGX (mk1) but sadly just had to sell it. Been using the Cherry Audio Pro-Soloist mostly lately anyway. Do you have this all in score form, is that what you’re reading on the tablet?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Yes, I’ve made my own transcriptions and I’m reading them on the iPad. I don’t think I’ll ever be able to memorize this stuff! I am working on publishing them someday.

[@Nick.Magnus]

Fascinating to hear those keyboard parts in isolation. As an erstwhile RMI owner (a 300B then a 368) it's nice to see the RMI getting some love. I've been using Shabby Chic's RMI collection (for the full version of Kontakt) for some years in my own music. You mentioned wishing that a plugin version would replicate the key ranges' different release times... Although the Shabby version doesn't replicate this behaviour by default, it's totally possible to achieve it in Kontakt with some judicious editing. Nevertheless, it's heartwarming to see you're using the real thing - makes me realise how much I miss mine!

[@dreG450]

Very happy to find this video randomly as I'm a huge Genesis and Tony Banks nerd. This is really awesome, I love learning more about Tony's setup around this era. Do you have videos for his setup in the ATTWT and Duke tours?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

My band just finished recreating the Duke tour, there’s a rig video for that from this year on this channel.

[@Joe-mz6dc]

Beautiful.

[@sirjaunty1]

Sir. First off, you are a definite talent. Secondly I am in no way at all ' well jell ' about your gear. But, I so am! So good.😊

[@mvillulla]

Sos un fenómeno ❤

[@escommentss]

Bravo!!

[@MrHermanRinger]

could this be the ultimate Banks 73-76 sounds demo...? Btw, I'm sure you have the RMI for Kontakt right? That's the one I use. Btw, sent you a message about the Oxid free plugin that models the Omni 2. Really interested in hearing your opinion on that one.

[@amonster8mymother]

I wish 8 had a melotron mini but for now I have samples in my akais. ❤

[@sailingwhisper149]

Another comment, I acquired an RMI 300B with the original pedal assembly, but I was able to swap out the sustain pedal jack for a normal 1/4" one and can now use any old keyboard sustain pedal with it. It was extremely simple if you know basic soldering. And you can use any old volume pedal instead of the included swell pedal 👍

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

That is amazing! I may seek your advice.

[@therealniksongs]

​@@mattthomasoverdrive4514the sustain circuit is the same as any standard one. RMI simply used the smaller jack for the sustain as a sort of "idiot proofing" so no one would accidentally plug the volume pedal into the sustain jack and vice versa. Seems to me just labeling the jacks would have been simpler. The DK-20 has the same odd sized sustain jack. I fabricated an adapter for mine because the person I bought it from did not have the original pedal assembly. And on the DK-20, that pedal assembly also included a sostenuto toe stud!

[@timothyverbist5795]

I like this one.

[@sailingwhisper149]

Matt, it looks like Christmas came early! Another great video, your attention to detail and dedication is second to none. I was looking into the mini vent since you mentioned it has some editable parameters, and I noticed that is has the A-B switch for different settings, maybe you can utilize that for guitar songs to get the better guitar Leslie sound? It might not be worth it, there are already so many other moving parts in this rig that it's not worth worrying about, haha!

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

That A/B button is on the rear of the pedal, a set-it-and-forget-it switch. I am liking the sound of this video so I may already be at peace 😂

[@sailingwhisper149]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Fair enough! Everything does sound excellent. I can't wait to hear it in person, I already bought my tickets for Ridgefield!

[@enfacedeglace]

Stunningly good! You make me wanna give up! 😂

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Never give up! 😀

[@Plingsel]

Great video! subbed!

[@manuelwatts1864]

Most excellent presentation, Matt Deepwater Banks fan here! Apropos to your comment -9:47, I've been using the (free) Odin II modular vst to repro Bank's RMI (Carpet & RAAB) & ARP PS. The sweet is 4 ADSR's & adjustable velocity ( I use Overloud TH3's mxr90 & boss chorus 4 stereo). Cameron at Venus Theory has an excellent review & demo for the Odin II ... Cheers Addendum: If I may ask, where do you aquire the tape cartridges for the Echoplex?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I’m on my first run with this Echoplex as it was recently restored by Detroit Amp Lab. The cartridge he installed looks like the common replacement currently available via Google search. I should learn how to do it ASAP!

[@iaamusic1121]

Great overview. The mellotron mini is far better than the original! I once gigged an M400 for my pains. Banks certainly made a little go along way. I often wondered why he never went with Moog.

[@nonsuch]

Sounds great so far. I had to stop and make a comment to say I would have integrated the Fender Blender and Phase 100 in the RMI for you. I'm not a pureist unless the instrument is in pristine museum condition. I'm near D.C. if you ever want that or any other mods done.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

@@nonsuch interesting! I may be in touch 😀

[@odmusicman]

We will enjoy this at the Ridgefield Playhouse Jan 11

[@Anamnesia]

About 8 years ago I managed to hunt down an MXR 100 Phaser (Script), judging by the potentiometers it's circa 1976. I really liked it and was going to use it on my Rhodes MK8-FX, but I find the phaser in the MK8-FX is less noisy... 😳

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I was wondering how those Mk 8 effects were. My Mk 1 is at Vintage Vibe waiting to get refurbished. I’m hoping my Phase 90 and 100 behave in the effects loop.

[@DanielDennett-l9n]

So impressive. Can’t imagine the hours…. I have to wonder if Tony ever sees stuff like this and what he would make of it. I guess he’s coached The Musical Box and doesn’t seem that interested now in a lot of this material. I know all these early recordings up to Seconds Out like the back of my hand and the voices do sound spookily authentic, as does your playing. Wow.

[@DanielDennett-l9n]

And when I say I know this stuff, I mean up to the point where I can see where you’re using the rhythms Tony chose on Seconds Out rather than on the studio recording.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Tony would think we’re weird…until he realized the hundreds of dollars he’s leaving on the table not playing this stuff anymore! 😂😂😂

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

We definitely play the live versions with all the additional energy and speed they require! Recreating the albums on stage is a losing battle which requires too much sleight of hand.

[@robertcowart1]

I built 4 Mellotron cabinets which were hollow, weighing just 35 pounds each. I used a Fatar midi controller. They were built using a real Mellotron to get exact measurements. I sold 3 on EBAY and kept 1 for myself. Marcus called me from Sweden to ask me how many more i planned on doing, because i was infringing on his legal rights as the current owner of Mellotron. It was all very friendly because my longtime friend was working with him at the factory. I said i would stop at 4, which i did. But somewhere in America 3 guys have my "Miditrons" in their rigs. They were very fragile because i used 3/4" plywood which i dado/gouged the interior of each panel down to 1/4", leaving the perimeter at 3/4" so it could be as light as possible. Leaving a 1" perimeter allowed good wood/glue contact on each panel. But if you punched in the middle of any panel it would break. A real Mellotron's first key is G. The Fatar starts with C. I didn't have much choice on that. I too am a Tony Banks fanatic. I saw the Lamb, Wind, Three & Duke tours.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Since I am the one who transports and sets up this rig at rehearsals and concerts, the less the better! The thing I love most about this setup is the very light top keyboards rest easily on the very heavy bottom keyboards, and I only need two stands total (the other for the mixer/Echoplex).

[@GenesisKeyboardCovers]

I'm really surprised no one has ever tried to model or even sample that percussion on the T-model Hammonds.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I could easily be modeled (like the RMI) and could just be a few additional parameters, but I guess demand is not sufficient 🥲

[@GenesisKeyboardCovers]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Yeah from what I've gathered there's not much love for the T-series in the Hammond community. The key click filter seems to be one of the main reasons.

[@robkr]

Kudos

[@ChrisSaunders-q8p]

Hi Matt, loved the video but you didn't tell us which model of organ you're using!

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Crumar Mojo Classic! I added a caption on screen when I realized I left it out of the final take 😬

[@rationalemusic7747]

Hey Matt, not sure who told you about the 368 pedal assembly but you can absolutely use they keyboard without it. At least on the one I had It plugs into the bottom panel jack plate with a TRS jack that is slightly smaller than 1/4". Somewhat perplexing given that the 1/4" cable for the audio output was built into the keyboard but the cable for the pedal assembly was not! Also Tony Banks was definitely using a 368, not the X model. In of their videos from 76 you can see their roadies lift the same plywood cover that yours has off of his. If you want someone to build the Phase 90 and Blender into yours, feel free to send me a DM. I have a bit of history with this instrument.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Thanks for the info. I am aware the piano can be played without it, you just can’t play things like Carpet Crawlers or Supper’s Ready correctly without sustain or swell. I should find one of those smaller TRS jack plugs, a tech told me it was a Bell Telephone part! Interesting about the 368. The X is specifically credited in Seconds Out so he must have updated it.

[@rationalemusic7747]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Ah, gotcha. I always used a delay pedal en lieu of the sustain since mine was missing. At least until I did the library with Hollowsun. I would opt to swap the smaller TRS with a 1/4" but I've never been one to favor historical accuracy over convenience for things like that. As far as the X version is concerned, maybe he replaced the original one later on for portability.

[@Farewelltokingz]

Planning on doing the Hackett and Rutherford rigs?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

If I can get those guys to rehearsal a little early this weekend…..? Yes!

[@amonster8mymother]

I'd like to get the piano parts on my mr76.

[@jimbofresh]

will you guys ever come to MA or RI ?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

We continue to try, including talks with the Wilbur in Boston. Hopefully someday.

[@jimbofresh]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 the Stadium Theatre in Woonsocket RI is also a haven for national tribute acts

[@jimbofresh]

Also the Broad Brook Opera House in northeastern CT

[@winstonschwarz1636]

Excellent. Could you tell me if Tony actually played the ARP 2600 on the Wind and Wuthering tour?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

He played it on the W&W album, but not the tour. He did use it live on the 1978 tour.

[@mrb7094]

Well done. But what's going on at the top end of that organ?!

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

2nd harmonic percussion

[@haydenbeauchamp3369]

This was awesome a couple of questions for you 1= how come the mellotron is ontop of the piano and does this effect the way that you play somgs that tony wouldve played with it underneath 2= how come you didnt choose a actual hammond organ like a t100 series or l series i know you have a B series and i understand why you dont want to haul it arround everywherre but I'm sure the Ts and Ls can take alot more umph 3= will the stage sets be the same as i have seen in some concerts that they actually used slides like they did on the lamb tour and sebtp tour 4= any plans of coming to europe and uk in the future Thank you

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

1. The Mellotron is on top because the digital one is so light and the RMI remains very heavy. I just left the original legs of the RMI attached and I won’t need a heavy duty stand. It really only affects the distance I have to leap in the songs in this video - Dance On A Volcano and Willow Farm. 2. The only Hammond organ I’ve ever wanted is the B3, and that safely stays in my house for studio use. Each of us hauls our own gear to rehearsals and concerts so this all has to fit in my pickup truck. 3. We do have an excellent lighting operator, but we won’t have any slides for this. We also don’t wear costumes or wigs. Our goal is to recreate what the band played on stage on that tour without any audio tricks, with just the five band members. 4. As much as we would love to go to Europe, we are limited to the Northeastern USA because we all have traditional careers and play on weekends.

[@haydenbeauchamp3369]

Okay thats great thanks for getting back to me. Would love to see a recording sometime. I know you tried it before and i heard it got claimed straight awayd​@@mattthomasoverdrive4514

[@Bawookles]

Super cool! I'm aware that all the keys are going through the Leslie and it looks like the delay too, but is the Phaser and Fender Blender fuzz just for the RMI piano?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Yes: the Phase 100 and Fender Blender are just in the pathway of the RMI. The Echoplex is in the auxiliary effects send/return for three of the channels (ARP, RMI, Mellotron) but not the shared 4th channel for the organ/guitar. Leslie is in a stereo insert for all channels.

[@Bawookles]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Thanks for that! Interesting that the Echoplex is also on the Mellotron, I guess he used that to increase the "size" of the sound a little. Did he ever change the delay time of the Echoplex for certain songs during the show or did he always keep it at that quick little delay setting?

[@elusive1970]

My question for you and the viewers is where did Tony get the musical studying and playing techniques. Long time Genesis fan but I never heard about that. His level of playing and concepts is super impressive so he's got a background studying somewhere I would think.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I actually have no idea. I am a big fan and enjoy learning and playing this stuff, but I’m not necessarily a Genesis superfan or scholar. Hopefully someone who knows will chime in!

[@stuartwaby3081]

I have read and heard in interviews that Tony is classically trained, other than that don't know any details.

[@EricKeinrath]

❤❤❤❤

[@marcoauf]

Hi Matt.....first of all sorry for my english!!! As always your videos, for me and the ones who loves the Banks's sound, are full of gems!!! I have a question regarding the patching of the Leslie pedal; as far as I've understood the Leslie is connected to the mixer using the send and return so he can be used with all the keyboards. Is It correct? Is it the same for the eco? If yes you have 2 different S/R on the mixer? Regards, Marco

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Thanks for asking! This video was the second take which I tried to make shorter. The Leslie pedal is in the INSERT (which has a stereo return) and affects everything. The instruments and Echoplex are mono, with the delay in the AUXILIARY. The auxiliary overall volume is about 50%, and within each channel is 100% for ARP, RMI, and Mellotron.

[@marcoauf]

1000 thanks!!!! For sure I'll ask you in the future other suggestion if this doesn't annoying 😊

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

That’s what this channel and comments section is for - to help and answer questions!

[@marcoauf]

Regarding your Pro DGX as far as I've understood there is the 4034 version of the filter. I have a DGX too, but I'm sure that there is the "last" version of the filter. I've found some shop which sells the 4034. Do you think that my Arp can be modified in order to have the sound as much similar as possible to the Soloist?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Mine does have the 4034 filter. I opened the keyboard up and it’s clearly labeled. I’ve never looked into modding those but if it’s been done before I wonder what the procedure is.

[@jacobh9344]

Awesome! What drawbar settings did you use for Supper’s Ready at the end there? Sounded right on.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I tried linking the Hammond T Series manual here, but the link is currently not working. Upper manual - same drawbars as Theatre Brass 16’, with 2nd harmonic percussion added Lower manual - Ensemble

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Here’s the link, page 13-14: archive.org/details/HammondOrganT-seriesOwnersManual

[@charlesgarrett3283]

Didn't Tony use an arp 2600 for Ripples?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Yes. That’s why I called it his live rig. So no acoustic piano or 2600 on stage like the record. Also, probably why they didn’t do Ripples live until the 1978 tour with the CP70 with Polymoog on top.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 The way the Polymoog and CP70 are mixed on And Then They Were Three allows for a brittle and sometimes harsh sound, especially when compared to Wind and Wuthering. ATTWT is lacking in the bottom end department.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

I've always preferred these 'old' sounds to what I heard on later Genesis records. They lost a lot, too, when they dropped the interlocking 12-string guitars. And Hackett was a magician in his own right, of course.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I prefer the analog to the digital, broadly in rock music and also in Genesis, but Tony magically introduced a lot of us to digital with the Synclavier and Emulator to great effect.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 It's incredible what he conjured forth from the amazingly simple Arp Pro Soloist. I'd like to see a reissue by Behringer.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Those effects really brought to life that single oscillator.

[@hubertvancalenbergh9022]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 The Pro Soloist is what sets Selling England by the Pound apart from previous albums, even Foxtrot.

[@danmist]

Is there really that much difference between yours and the later Pro DGXs? I've found one of the later ones for sale at an affordable price.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Although I’ve not compared them, I doubt it makes too much of a difference on this instrument. I pointed out mine to silence the trolls. I’ve played plenty of ARP reissues from Korg and Behringer which have all the filter revisions available at the flip of a switch. Where those make a difference are at the extremes of filter cutoff and resonance, which is not a bad thing. The black/orange ARP was really heavy if I remember, and the overhanging keys are dangerous. Things to consider if you use it live.

[@danmist]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 Thanks. By the way, the Yamaha S90 ES has a good RMI sound and you can change the settings to make it do the organ mode and use the built in phaser.

[@JoseEvers-s5u]

Did he run all keyboards through the leslie..?

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Yes, on the 1976 tour. It’s hard to tell on the official live releases (In Concert film, Seconds Out and Three Sides Live 1976 tracks, the Hammersmith excerpts on Wolfgang’s Vault) but very clear on the live radio broadcasts from that tour. This is informative: thegenesisarchive.co.uk/contemporary-keyboard-october-1976-tony-banks-feature/

[@JoseEvers-s5u]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 really really interesting - it does really add to the sound - especially the Pro Soloist. Owned two of them…but never put them through a leslie :-)

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

This signal routing goes against most of my instincts 😂. This it not what I would do - but there is no mistaking that signature Genesis sound!

[@JoseEvers-s5u]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 do you know how many leslies they used live to put all the keys through…or would they mix all keys down to two stereo channels and add two leslies…? Or maybe even one mono channel and two mics to create the leslie stereo effect

[@NicolaMenel]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 sorry Matt, i read the article. If I haven't misunderstood, Banks put ARP and Mellotron through the Leslie but not the RMI. Did I understand correctly? Thanks!

[@brunoprimas1483]

It always disappointed me that Tony didn’t concern himself with getting more of the original sound when keyboards became available to recreate them.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I actually like the evolution of his live rig throughout the 70s and 80s. I’m not really into his sounds when he went all digital beginning in the early 90s. However, if it was that easy to get accurate sounds with modern keyboards, I’d be doing it!

[@brunoprimas1483]

@@mattthomasoverdrive4514 For the new songs, yes. For the old songs played live, the Mellotron and Hammond replacements were awful, IMO.

[@devinthierault]

Garth Hudson next...only kidding

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Don’t get me started!

[@chrisstrobel3439]

I played live in the 70/80’s around Los Angeles and Orange Counties for a living, I had to haul around a B3 on Hammond dollies, a Leslie 122, Fender 73 Stage, Elka Rhapsody, and two Minimoogs .. all in the back of a Datsun pickup most of the time. The Moog gold contacts needed constant cleaning, the B3 needed oil, and my back needed weekly chiropractic work even though I was only in my 20’s. By 1988 I was down to only a DX7 and Roland Jupiter 8 .. but still in their Anvil flight cases along with my personal PA monitor rig it was a pain in the arse to move around and set up. If I were to play live today it’d be with two Korg Microkey 61’s and a laptop or ipad .. the sounds on even my iPad have far exceeded what we had back then, but I realize doing a tribute gig would look kinda silly with such a modern rig, so kudos to the old gear presented here in this video 👍

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I currently have all of those instruments you mentioned in my studio, except for the Jupiter 8 (and only one Minimoog). Throughout most of the 90s I gigged with an original Korg CX-3, Leslie 147, and a Wurlitzer. I have used a Mac on stage for a while but this show really requires all of this as opposed to stepping through MainStage presets. It’s fun!

[@Fehlfarbenblind]

I don't think software Emulations are exceeded against the real Analog Gear. For one simple Reason. The Scale is the original Gear. Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson recorded thier Albums not with an iPad and an Midi Controller. Nowadays Software Emulations sounding good but no Arturia, no Nord Stage and no Kontakt emulate the Sounds from a full analog orginal Keys Setup. I haven't heard a modern live Keyboarder yet which used Nord Stages or Something similar that Sounded even close as good like a Player in the 70s which a tons of the gear modern Software trys to recreate. I understand obviously that for live Reasons und most importantly health reasons lighter and modern Gear are the better Choice.

[@ooo-i4t3s]

I listened in MONO and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

Savage!

[@Crispymachoman]

Love your videos, how do you EQ your RMI? I have a 368x but cant get it exactly like yours or Tony's.

[@mattthomasoverdrive4514]

I just leave the bass slider on the piano around the halfway point. The Radial mixer is so great, it just works and is clean. At one point I was using a Mackie mixer and it was adding too many gain stages. With this setup you’re hearing it going through a vintage Phase 100 (considered a tone-sucker), a vintage Echoplex in the aux send (and therefore colored by its famous preamp) and the Vent Leslie sim in the insert (which Tony believed tamed the high end).