[Tool Assisted Trombone] 'Through the Fire and Flames' in Trombone Champ

A Tool Assisted Trombone, or TAT for short.
AutoToot mod by TomDotBat
github.com/Tom...
Circular Breathing mod by Christoffyw
Original video: • 'Through the Fire and ...
Trombone Champ Modding Discord: / discord

[@DerpyChap]

This is possible using the mods AutoToot by TomDotBat (github.com/TomDotBat/AutoToot/ ) and Circular Breathing by Christoffyw. Now you can hear all the mistakes I made when making this map. 👍

[@eqaeabiker3223]

literally impossible 🤣🤣

[@paper2222]

no wayyy finally an auto mod

[@tako-sensei6072]

I feel like mistakes in this game aren't problematic though, since the entire Idea is comedic anyway.

[@HyperLuigi37]

@@tako-sensei6072 Personally I’d love even more accurate maps because in its own way that’s almost funnier But yeah, either way it’s still hilarious Even the damn pitch bender can’t keep up with this map

[@Leanginc]

This is a good tool for future modding I guess

[@347SeibaDynasty]

Even the TAT couldn't nail it all. TTFAF is truely a song that keeps on giving

[@fernando47180]

truly* No need to thank me

[@kaiiak04]

@@fernando47180 we won't

[@darkweeman133]

@@fernando47180 based spellchecker chad

[@kitterkatt]

You mean TAT?

[@rendann]

You mean TAT?

[@SusCac]

I like with the wireframe you can tell how much higher poly the trombone is than the player. Priorities.

[@musicsheep9816]

Trombone fact: Trombones are higher poly than humans IRL

[@Juanni]

@@musicsheep9816 Can vouch, I am a trombone

[@ZorrotheArtist]

@@Juanni Can double vouch, my cousin who is a clarinet was friends with someone who knew a trombone back in junior high.

[@thebaseandtriflingcreature174]

Can triple vouch: my firstborn son is a trombone and i am married to a wonderful trombone wife. We are expecting a half trombone half human daughter soon

[@ZorrotheArtist]

@@thebaseandtriflingcreature174 Did you stick your dick in a trombone? That’s epic.

[@thejuggercat]

The fact that theres a circular breathing mod can only mean one thing: its only a matter of time before the 300000 note song that is in clone hero gets ported here, even If for only one pitch.

[@jacksalter5983]

CarnyJared’s 1 million note FC in Trombone Champ pls

[@valerium730]

waiting patiently for soulless 4 tromboned

[@thejuggercat]

@@valerium730 me too...

[@GageHeibeck]

MEGALODON IN TROMBONE CHAMP

[@WolfyXD1234]

What song is it?

[@Ignigknawt]

Tromboner played so fast the animation was reduced to a single frame

[@ZorrotheArtist]

Simply perfection as one may put it.

[@demonmysterykid3343]

Skill

[@naysaykiller928]

Tromboner Ha

[@dcard228]

Tromboner has transcended the need for animation

[@GoogleAids]

Pfft hehehe

[@wowrrior_official]

Not even close to the masterpiece that was when you covered it.

[@Kitty_Cosmic]

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[@ShadyDoesContent]

The first movie was better

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

I read the manga.

[@whydoineedthisB]

@@Bill_Cipher1995 I read the web comic.

[@jacextreme6432]

I read the unedited novel

[@Mr._Sherwood]

Well now I'm CONVINCED that a full combo is just outright impossible if even the bot can't do it.

[@Its-me..]

Bot made (at least) 10 mistakes - if anyone nailed it, it might be humanity's greatest achievement...

[@JohnnyGF_]

I don't know much about this game, but I think some of the notes might be overlapping, making it difficult to hit all the notes without making mistakes. I also thing there are some sections where it seems a bit too crowded with notes, but that's just my opinion.

[@The_Bird_Bird_Harder]

@@JohnnyGF_ yeah I'm pretty sure that they do. Like a lot seem to overlap. Which of course adds to the fun of the chart being physically impossible to get totally correct.

[@dianauwu1312]

If they're overlapping, then there's a hypothetical perfect score still and I'm sure someone's gonna get it within like 6 months

[@gracep2910]

@@dianauwu1312 male

[@zombeebear30]

Someone needs to make a mod that stops the trombone from maxing its pitch at one octave above the starting note so that this chart can be truely heard

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

Maybe a real trombone can't go any higher?

[@emmer2919]

@@Bill_Cipher1995 it definitely can lmao

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

@@emmer2919 Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit.

[@5PctJuice]

@@Bill_Cipher1995 The highest note is a C5. I can play higher.

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

@@5PctJuice Well, did you know that Marta can hit A above high C? That's pretty impressive; not many singers can do that.

[@nitefurie.]

“Tool assisted trombone” has just been added to my vocabulary and I’m more than ok with it

[@IanMalcolm99]

even the autotoot still made 283 non perfect notes, this chart truly transcends possibility

[@Lord_of_commencement]

Perfecto*

[@_lun4r_]

there should be an AutoToot+ made that can hit charts like this better

[@TheAntiGravityMaster]

it's impressive to see a real person play this, but it's also very enjoyable to listen to this perfect version

[@thomasw4422]

It's cool to hear the Trombone sounding goood.

[@n833u3]

It's not even perfect despite a literal bot playing it.

[@ryanhernandez8324]

@@n833u3 No Trombone Player could hope to achieve the power necessary to properly play this song... or so I believe.

[@TornaitSuperBird]

@@ryanhernandez8324 You severely underestimate actual trombone players.

[@ocean-of-clouds]

that was auto-toot

[@moviemaker2011z]

typical through the fire and flames song, being charted in a way that you are playing far more than is reasonably expected. in guitar hero you are basically playing the parts of 2 or 3 guitars and here you are expected to play the lyrics and the guitar parts. never ceases to overwhelm people. 10/10

[@MsMeiriona]

How many parts would you have to split this into to make it reasonable, do you think?

[@thomasw4422]

I think that's part of the point - to make something that's a ridiculous challenge to play

[@St0rmGuy]

@@thomasw4422 I mean, isnt TTFAF *already* an ridiculous challenge?

[@karmahard]

Whoever can actually manage like a close FC to this song is actually a fucking god

[@DJ.The.Tiger25]

They're the real trombone champ

[@seDrakonkill]

@@DJ.The.Tiger25 The true Tromboner

[@socksygen]

Maybe if a version gets redone with better syncing. Can't imagine anyone doing this with the janky timing in some parts

[@joemarais7683]

@@socksygen also doesn’t help that a ton of the notes are just wrong. Like not even in the guitar parts that are hard to track or just fun to fuck with, but the melody just isn’t right lots of the time. Anyone who knows how the melody should sound will miss all of those without otherworldly discipline.

[@wormlington]

@@joemarais7683 The reason the melody is wrong in a lot of places is because trombone champ is limited to one octave

[@skylerstook9714]

Although this TAS run is fascinating, there was something special, something human about the original run. As we are all human, perhaps perfection is not preferable to error

[@fregi8779]

it still missed notes lmao

[@quinnparzych9294]

@@fregi8779 that’s the point

[@LordRambo]

yfw dragonforce goes so hard it makes AIs become self-aware

[@eveandaedrul]

While this was nice to listen to, the human version was fun all throughout the 7 minutes, I was enjoying it more. The desperate toots and the player tooting to the song playing in their head because the map was too fast was so good

[@nullvoid4193]

man just had a revilation from watching a bot play a power metal song on a silly doot trumpet game.

[@user_hat]

Even the TAobama fails lol

[@HarambaeXelonmuskfans]

TAT. Do not include the speedshitters in this.

[@appleyapple9019]

@@HarambaeXelonmuskfans no reason to get mad bro

[@fluffberrieh2335]

@@appleyapple9019 youtube commenter detect joke challenge (impossible)

[@bacon.cheesecake]

Goes to show how brutal trombone champ is when it comes to keeping a combo

[@Vireth]

@@HarambaeXelonmuskfans wtf does TAT even mean? also TAS can also mean Tool Assisted Superplay in some rare occasions like this one

[@shiruzhen]

I can't stop laughing because the slides notes at 5:30 sounds like the sfx of Mario going through pipes 😂😂😂

[@tylerhardy901]

I thought of pac-man

[@averagejoe2798]

It’s intentional

[@Dyna1One]

4:47 dead from this point onward into all the solos, that started as just Super Mario Striker's Birdo's getting electrocuted (if you've never played it, search Super Mario Strikers Birdo Voice Clips and then 0:16) 😅😂😂😂

[@shiruzhen]

@@tylerhardy901 I hear it!

[@LionMettled]

the wiggling notes are so funny they have me in stitches every time

[@ariannasv22]

I was waiting for a tas version but didn't expect it so soon, nor did I expect the bot to fail so badly

[@chrayez]

@@jobriq5 the pinned comment mentioned a mod he used to remove the breath meter. (Which matches, since I didn’t see the breath meter show up on any notes)

[@stevecrafter518]

@@chrayez nope. Just makes it circular like the BotW stamina bar

[@Badabumpow]

I love how at 7:14 the TAS completely craps its pants😂

[@jacobsiron6929]

"sorry, you want me to do _what?"_

[@HarrisonPeloso]

LMAO

[@TripleGia]

I love how even the TAT can't flawless this insanity

[@0PercentImagination]

I'm always amused at the absolute insanity that gets ported into every rhythm game in existence, there are some out there for Clone Hero that I wouldn't even be able to reach 1% in lol.

[@einootspork]

I like how if you do too much pitch bending too quickly the trombone just stops keeping up

[@musicianhayd]

Impressive work for both videos! We all know the original is the crowd favourite, but yes - outstanding!

[@SergioPSC]

You know is hard when even the machine fucks up

[@umbreotter]

The amount of times this track makes the trombone go Pac-Man is perfect

[@thomasw4422]

Wow, it sounds good. It's amazing what being just a little off pitch or timing will do

[@Astrael00]

"Tool Assisted Trombone" Aaahh we're on that side of youtube again, not that I'm complaining.

[@Clyman974]

Funny how it just becomes a MIDI file

[@CoralCopperHead]

...Wait, are you telling me DragonForce doesn't write all of their songs on a Roland? Because they all sound _exactly the same._

[@Nickoji]

@@CoralCopperHead Who cares how they write them? I'd love to hear your songs. Do you have a band? Bc I kinda agree but I still love Dragonforce.

[@Shizkeb]

@@Nickoji that guy has more likes than you so I guess he’s absolutely right, dragonforce is garbage now

[@Nickoji]

@@Shizkeb Ok.... More likes means he/she is right I guess. XD If you say so. "Dragonforce is garbage now" Now? I again kinda agree bc I love their old stuff better.

[@Shizkeb]

@@Nickoji when I mean now I mean I used to like it but now that I’ve seen his comment I guess I shouldn’t like it anymore

[@franklincolon3422]

He has ascended beyond the need for an animation, his resolve is as clear as his skin

[@klancyallred3994]

the fact that the bot is having trouble and actually lost it streak just goes to show that this song is HARD! 2:16 , 4:10 , 4:19 , 4:22 , 4:30 , 5:28 , 5:31 , 6:07 , 6:09 , 7:13 - 7:17 are the times the bot is failing due to human error in the making of the map and or the difficulty of the reaction time that it responds to which is faster than it can react to.

[@TooMuchDad]

“The Arc of the Moral Universe is Long, But it Bends Toward Justice.” - Martin Luther King Jr, about Through the Fire and the Flames on Trombone Hero

[@SonHodor]

5:05 When your note line turns into hill climb racing map

[@chrisjohnson1170]

I don't know the mechanics of the game, but instruments generally require a lead up before the note to drive the instrument. With a piano it's the hammer, a trombone air, a drum, ya know, the drumstick. It's that anticipation of a note that allows makes it on time. I don't think it'll help here, but quite rad you took the time to make a tat. I can't wait to see one of flight of the bumble bee.

[@y2kafka472]

Breathing is overrated. We have Trombones.

[@chrisjohnson1170]

@@y2kafka472 Bone till your heart's content.

[@wesleyward5901]

You know what we need next? Free Bird. I'd love to hear the Free Bird solo on a trombone.

[@ellieporter3270]

I see that even with the circular breathing mod, it is still impossible to get a perfect because some notes overlap. I think I have devised a solution for this, however. *Clearly, we need a two trombones at once mod.*

[@rune4543]

If the tas can't even get an FC I don't know how us plebs are supposed to handle the hit detection lmao

[@aviancoleslaw]

I've never sat down and listened to the full song until this moment. And it is such a beautiful moment.

[@JohnsonJohnsonJohnson-j6r]

A damn robot can't even do this. I'm beginning to wonder if its even near possible

[@hexamoon1499]

This is what I expected from the first one 😀

[@MakoTheUndead]

for some reason 7:15 is the funniest noise I've heard all week

[@snowdust1105]

5:29 when the chart goes so hard you become pacman

[@siwij]

If even the bot is failing to perfect run this then theres only one thing i can say. If you can play Through the fire and flames then you are officially a legend. In any instrument.

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

Additionally, this chart only covers the vocals. The guitar parts behind that are LOADED.

[@misterezioauditore]

Both versions are amazing, but your first rendition was a really fantastic attempt.

[@RubenFedop]

Now this is what TAS (or TAT in this case) was made for lmao

[@TheSandell]

07:07 you know you're in for a treat when the end segment starts with BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAHH

[@chocokupo3182]

2:14 pacman just died

[@Mrnotpib]

This is the song that plays when a scrimblo side character is far more powerful than the mc expected.

[@Grymgar]

I love how it still sounds off even when played right. Like the Trombone can replace no instrument, and no instrument can be replaced by trombone. Only really sounds good with pieces written for it.

[@MindOfGenius]

You missed the chance to call it a Tool Operated Opus Technology...TOOTs.

[@TransistorBased]

I get the feeling whoever charted this isn't primarily a musician

[@nagirarara_]

I know this isn’t the point but “Tool Assisted Trombone” is absolutely sending me.

[@flamelordx8612]

Dude’s gained 200 subs in half a day, hats off to you

[@sirsquidpotato3027]

For those wondering why even the bot can’t FC it, a big part of it is because the final vibrato lasts longer than the player’s breath meter. If somehow we developed tech to bypass this, there’s still the problem of some notes being so precise that they overlap. So even though the final vibrato can be done by playing on a higher speed, the overlapping notes that are barely possible on normal speed would absolutely become impossible. An additional part of this is just the way the bot is programmed. I’m sure it can be optimized to search for notes before the current one ends rather than searching for another note the frame the current note ends like it seems it does now.

[@commanderdemonno9819]

the tech is simple *_speed the song up so the note's shorter_*

[@em_the_bee]

Why not just make an improved chart? This one is clearly not ideal.

[@HyperLuigi37]

This is honestly exactly what I wanted to see. Beautiful.

[@GoreTorn16]

This was nothing short of ridiculous!

[@panama1131]

I love that even the score counter couldn't even keep up with the song. When the song ended it was at 15 mil and still going up.

[@nikanikani1]

reminds me of when i was in marching band and we went to a competition where a band did ac/dc

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

One time, our high school band instructor called AC/DC "heavy metal," and the drummer and I almost died from cardiomyopathy on the spot.

[@nikanikani1]

@@Bill_Cipher1995 dammnnnn

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

@@nikanikani1 Is wrong though? Those blast beats on "You Shook Me All Night Long" are pretty brutal.

[@nikanikani1]

@@Bill_Cipher1995 im no drummer, i play brass, that just sounds rather brutal to me, yea

[@adamthejester9718]

I love how the bass track is both mixed higher, and is more complex than in the original song in the mod

[@DoodleMonsterRocks]

Fun song to hear accurately played out but I still prefer your sheer panic trying to play this song

[@PixelationMusic]

Friend: “You okay in there?” Me in the bathroom after Taco Bell: 5:08

[@PanchoLakes]

I was waiting for this for so long. Like three days

[@nurimep]

im gonna be crying on this channel all night

[@wariosqueegee9504]

That rating meter probably took a whole 360 around the entire solar system

[@SamLabbato]

you know when even the computer is failing, it's a hard chart

[@thanicalix1658]

POV: The lead guitars and vocalists didn't show up, so they got someone with a trombone to cover for them.

[@lanfour4444]

Osu players: Taking too long too FC this song DerpyChap: Fine I'll program it myself.

[@karlmarx9255]

the fact that even the tas missed on 0:57 is amazing

[@Swaggie255]

I synced this with the actual song on spotify and have never felt so happy.

[@lihtcaol]

..... Du miel pour les oreilles ! 🍯

[@DangOldRegularOld]

This is exactly what I needed in life

[@CraftMechanicYT]

This is what I've been looking for, a true *perfecto* trombone

[@chancellorforrun2330]

Anyone else notice that the trombone if slowed down would more than likely sound like safety dance? Especially the “we can dance if you want to…”

[@Saplingbat]

7:19 the perfectly timed airhorn killed me lmao

[@ducktorical6085]

this song is so hardcore on the trombone, the computer couldn't keep up

[@JohnDoe-gx8pm]

Yo this guy is crazy skilled.

[@kanyenortheast3546]

This TAS guy is crazy at everything. I can’t wait to see the rest of their career

[@Bill_Cipher1995]

But can he play Smoke On The Water?

[@Kamirasu]

@@kanyenortheast3546 nah this is TAS' little cousin, TAT

[@lucifer.m]

Every time I would get this exact same song from this exact same game in my recommended and every time the quality of the playthrough improved. I went from watching some dude fail miserably at life and breaking down to this absolute masterpiece, making my life complete. I suppose... my time is up. There is no better than a perfect score. One cannot improve anymore. It is my time to say farewell to the art that is this. Through Fire and Flames I shall go to meet you all again. See you on the other side.

[@ISMFOFish]

this isn't a perfect run, your time is not yet

[@satanplay7096]

That wobbly trombone is the funniest thing ever! Now I want to see this cover with the lyrics, that would be majestic.

[@kinch_evl]

I'm impressed they made an animation for the score line escaping the final score screen.

[@cheepthepeanut]

congrats, this killed of the fun part of this game

[@rwa850]

I appreciate the work that went into this OP :)

[@shiftyboi7102]

Good thing it had lyrics to sing while you play the trombone man

[@scouttengu]

It's funny because this actually sounds good

[@garbagepailkid]

Interesting to hear the intended arrangement. Thanks!

[@Grushvak]

I never asked for this but I'm happy I found it.

[@band0fpandas922]

Going on my workout playlist

[@casualtr4sh]

It's incredible that they named the unlimited breath mod circular breathing

[@local_cryptid]

Truly Musical comedy at its finest

[@momento_2125]

This was the perfection i was looking for

[@klancyallred3994]

0:08 - 0:09 when the music teacher tells you to stop screwing around

[@beezymeech]

I love when that even when a computer does it, it still sounds like SHIT! which is AWESOME

[@52flyingbicycles]

Technology just isn’t ready to perfect this song

[@SpectroliteDS]

The fact this chart is so insane even the BOT drops its combo several times...

[@eseria7550]

Now all we need to see is "The Violation- Fleshgod Apocalypse" mapped

[@aka_miso]

When I originally saw the jump in notes at 7:14 I said you're gonna need tool assistance looks like we're gonna need something stronger

[@Dr.AculaMD]

I like those squiggly notes.

[@shinyspheal6734]

the thought of a TAT makes me chuckle

[@LeoAngora]

Goodbye TAS, hello TOOT: Tool-oriented trombone.

[@DerdOn0ner]

When people aren’t constantly hitting “nasty” it sounds surprisingly amazing, who would’ve thought 😂

[@Keirnoth]

The legend Herman Li himself reacted to this!!!

[@NIMPAK1]

Assuming the game is mouse controlled. Would it be possible to get a perfect TAT if you used a drawing tablet?