Top 10 Best Value Used Electric Cars!

After looking on the market almost every day, I've been keeping an eye on the best value EVs out there, right now in April 2024.
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[@williamarmstrong7199]

My 1st delivery 3 year 5 month MG5 in use as a taxi is now on 135800 miles. It has not needed anything but two headlight bulb sockets and now windscreen wippers. Battery SOH is still 100% and it is easyly doing 200 motorway miles if driven just below 70mph in temperatures above 15 degrees C.

[@safercyclinguk]

No mention of the first gen MG ZS or MG5 for some reason, both now around £10,000-12000 2019-21 models.

[@colinphillipson4830]

The Hyundai Ioniq 28kWh and 38kWh are excellent cars to consider having very good efficiency, tech and the 5/8 year warranty. The only let down on the 38kWh is the slower DC charging speed.

[@UK-Cycling]

Great list, Andy. Thank you very much. Best regards, Martin.

[@mason.berlin]

Great video. Thanks for making this!

[@sandraoldfield4348]

very good ,well delivered informative thanks

[@maximilianholland]

Thank Andy., great video. If the slightly slower DC charging isn't an issue, the Renault Zoe 52 kWh (with 50 kW DC charging) is also good value, now at just under £10k. Takes about 55 minutes 10'% to 80%. Real world range over 200 miles and good efficiency.

[@AndrewEbling]

Agreed. Just make sure you check the suspension carefully. I loved my 22kwh Zoe but I spent more on suspension repairs over 50k miles than I did in electricity and tyres combined.

[@markrozee]

I have one. I love it❤

[@mikebikekite1]

Years ago I used to own an ICE Renault scenic. While it was structurally sound, everything electric on it died at some point. I don't think I could sleep at night if I bought a Renault EV.

[@AndrewEbling]

@@mikebikekite1 have to confess I did have a momentary wobble before buying the Zoe (2nd hand) - "buying a French *electric* car - am I crazy?!". In practice the only electrical issues I had were when the 12V battery needed replacing and a drivers airbag warning light (had to get the storks cluster replaced to fix, but it was only just over £100, IIRC). Everything on the traction side was fine, and at this point Renault arguably have a lot more experience producing EVs at volume, than many alternatives. I'd buy another Renault EV, without hesitation.

[@alangravy27]

I good and wel thought out video. Show the great choice and value in the used EV market

[@petemeredith1583]

Great content 👍

[@johnbridger5629]

Helpful thank you.

[@iainattenborough2582]

just picked up a Dec 2020 m3 LR refresh 35kmi ... £23k. Brilliant bit of kit, such a good time to buy. Didn't realise the 2020 didn't have steering wheel heating like our old 22 RWD though. Thanks for the tips EV man!

[@ljc505]

Great video. We have just picked up a 71 plate ioniq5 premium 72kwh rwd, 15kMiles..... For £23k :-)

[@SlushyCheese]

Hi mate where from? I'm looking on auto trader and they seems to be expensive

[@paulbuckingham15]

Loved the dig at the Mc2@.

[@marvinsamuels1237]

Nice video Andy. I love the Honda e and would really like one as our 2nd EV.

[@thundercat9642]

Brilliant video

[@rusty911s2]

My local dealer has just done two standard Model 3's in white with black interiors, both 100k miles, both tidy one owner cars on quality tyres. £13,995 and £12,995, both with 3 month dealer warranties (albeit just dropping out of Tesla bat warranty). Drove one and it felt perfectly screwed together: tight as a drum, not a rattle, squeak, creak or groan. Probably should have grabbed one, but one thing's for sure, prices aren't rising so I'm sure other deals will be along soon. Even so, incredible value.

[@kanoeist0]

Ace video. I'm quite often asked about good EVs to get.

[@richmaniow]

great review, it'll be interesting to see what happens to these used prices in a couple of years when the battery warranties are close too or have expired, could be some real bargains with plenty of life left in them..

[@nealy2815]

Good stuff.

[@thevideoark]

Interesting choices which most can’t argue about. Love the Taycan dig.

[@novablacknight1]

nice one andy e niro 4 spec great car fantastic ev what a great car i love mine just done 240 mile run and 60 left 6.2 m per kwh outstanding

[@mikees60]

Loved the Mac Master dig.

[@markerichannelly]

Always loved the design of the Honda E. If they released one with a long range battery I'd probably have bought one. That short turning circle too is so nice.

[@neilm9400]

Very tempting tbh

[@d4m029]

Great video. I have a 21 plate 64kWh Kona for work and it’s a brilliant car. We were recently at risk of redundancy and if I had of been made redundant I would happily of bought it if it was an option!

[@mrmawson2438]

Cheers mate

[@JonathanPalfrey]

So many great deals on EVs at the moment. My lease ends in June so I've been looking out for Model 3s (21 reg and newer) Set myself a budget of £25k however it looks like I wont need to spend any more than £22/23k for a SR+

[@michaelggriffiths]

Good content. Earlier this year I bought a MY20 Kia e Niro 4, it had quite high mileage, but had main dealer FSH, and the onboard diagnostics reported no errors and great battery health. I paid just a tad under 12K for it. I easily get over 260 miles. I needed something that I could charge up at home (London) and then do a round trip to Worcestershire to visit my parents who don’t have charging facilities. I can easily get there and back one charge and even have sufficient range to drive around a bit whilst there. Coming from a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV (which is an _amazing_ car, and I still own it) my round trip costs have gone from over £50.00 to under £10.00. I agree that the Tesla is a better overall package - you just cant beat the SC network. IMO, unless you go really high end, most EV drivers _would_ buy a Tesla over anything else. The reason they don’t - like me - is that they can’t really afford it.. I often see it here in London, people buy a cheaper EV, and then bad mouth Tesla’s in an effort to justify why they didn’t get one. truth be told, a LOT more people would own a Tesla if they could… I certainly would. In the mean time, I’m content with my E Niro… but in the future, who knows?

[@AndrewEbling]

Insurance costs, part availability, service centre availability and (accident) repair times are good reasons to steer clear of Tesla. Even the Enyaq is a better drive than the Model Y too. With Superchargers gradually being opened up to non-Teslas, that unique advantage is narrowing too.

[@ep8029]

It's the insurance cost of a Tesla that stops me buying one. £1,700 last time I checked. Just not worth it. If Musk provided cheap insurance in the UK as he does in the US, I'd get one. Think about that, Elon. Easy way of doubling demand.

[@markbriggs5531]

Very helpful and very enjoyable to watch. Saving my pennies and looking forward to buying an EV like my brother and neighbours who all swear by them.

[@TonyOrc]

I am constantly amazed at how the prices of 2nd hand EVs are going down as more and more of them come onto the market.

[@rusty911s2]

It's taken long enough: for years the complaint was they're too expensive.

[@Hali88]

@@rusty911s2 they still are way too expensive new but at least the manufacturers are realising that people aren't prepared to pay £35k+ for a small hatchback/crossover!

[@shreeshsaurya4203]

Excellent video. Wondering when you buy second hand, is the battery status is checked and certified by the seller?!

[@Antiguan_Dart]

A reputable garage may have an OBD ( on board diagnostics) port reader for the car and be able to see indicators to the traction battery health. I’ve recently heard the DTE ( distance to empty or guess-o-meter) dash board reading at 100% State of charge compared to the reading on factory delivery shouldn’t be used as a reliable indicator of battery health.

[@alibro7512]

I need an estate car for work so have been looking at the MG5. It seems to be cracking value atm.

[@shazadanjum6173]

Hello Evm can you do a similar video on range from 250 to 350 miles range car and then what is the price difference and what your recommendation is

[@KokowaSarunoKuniDesu]

What, you've soured on the Mii? I just got one for 11.4 with under 10000 miles. Getting better than 5 m/kwh, which is the crucial statistic for me, so it looks like a range approaching 200 for my standard Yorksnire miles.

[@SpeakToTheGeekTech]

I'd swap you my Corsa-e for a mangled paperclip right now tbh :) doing my head in!

[@Hali88]

Deal! Why?

[@danielstefanovic2604]

Regarding the kona, they had a big recall on the battery, so if you want one, try to get one where the battery has been replaced. But ive heard of plenty people who have problems with the older kona where the drivetrain starts making noises and needs to be replaced.

[@michaeledwards8079]

there are also good deals on new EV's, the nissan leaf is currently on sale with a 46% discount, brand new N connecta for £17495, it's only the range that lets it down and of course charging speed

[@bordersw1239]

There has to be a market for mobile battery techs that travel to garages and do battery assessments, possibly insurance backed that can add the results onto the sales pack. Maybe this is already available?

[@hughmarcus1]

HEVRA? There’s several already doing it. Check out Cleevely EV

[@beckfordblack641]

Would you recommend the ipace?

[@andrewwebster6025]

I was going to say the Citroen C4 which uses same platform as the corsa and is very comfortable inside. I have seen them advertised on autotrader for about £14K but when I just looked there were none there!

[@paulinecooke3450]

Sad that you didn’t mention the BMW i3, we love ours, quirky looks, good range and fun to drive.

[@davewatts7444]

The Nero is the one for me next time round

[@FalkinerTim]

In Australia, the Tesla second-hand prices are still quite high. But some other EVs are very good buying. The dealers are, though, keeping the prices artificially high but they do not want to trade them.

[@ivanwhitfield7951]

Just picked up a Seat Mii Electric 21 plate 8275 pls for £9900, virtually immaculate with 100 SOH on the battery. Getting 150+ miles from a charge, usually around 5mkWh. It'll do nicely until the market settles and the current wave of new models hits the s/h market next year.

[@user-gd8ud7fq9y]

Can you believe us members get first crack at these deals for only 99p/month! My only problem is that I'm happy with my two EVs and doubt I'll be in the market for another 5 years. By then, wow the deals. I'll pick up McMaster's Taycan for less than £20k!

[@simonjenkins982]

Hello. You mention the Tesla supercharger network, but no mention of the staff that ran it being made redundant. Do you think that the network will now become like other EV chargers unreliable ? You have shown in at least two videos how many chargers do not work and do not get repaired. Thank you.😅

[@Antiguan_Dart]

Apparently the servicing staff have been retained it was the staff involved around the proliferation of the network who have been let go.

[@ChrisJay]

my pcp on my e-niro is due in October, think ill just be buying it from the finance company, just dont see anything to beat it right now..

[@hawkeye880]

What about the vw eup, seat mii, Škoda citigo IV.

[@gavjlewis]

@13:13 2.5+5.5=7 😂 Left field one would be the eGolf. Not in anyway a great EV but people like that they are a normal car (whatever that means) they hold their value well and are easy to sell on when its time for it to find a new home.

[@devonbikefilms]

I can’t speak for others, but my eNiro has been superb over the last two and a half years, costing less to run than my wife’s piccanto. It’ll be with us at least until the warranty ends and possibly longer. A great family EV.

[@DintClempsey]

Interested in a used e-Niro or Kona, but in my experience full service history ones are few and far between, and this is needed for the warranty to be valid! Probably because they have a daft service interval of 10000 miles or 1 yr. In any case, I wouldn’t buy one out of warranty, the stories about the Gear Reduction Unit design flaws/failures could leave you with a very expensive bill.

[@johniooi3954]

As a E-Niro owner, Kia 7 year warranty does not cover everything for 7 years & also requires a yearly service to ensure it is intact. Something many do not have & people are shocked when a claim is declined, this is the same for both ice & ev.

[@nealy2815]

Can you elaborate please. Thanks.

[@YoutubeAccount-qq7zj]

Very surprised you didn’t mention Nissan Leaf! 62kwh going for pretty cheap! (And you started the channel because of the leaf as well).

[@kipperdog7950]

The leaf is very cheap for what you get, only let down by 3 things: 1 chadeomo charging which is getting less common 2 lack of thermal battery management hence worse battery degredation. 3 Quality of dealerships. Otherwise an excellent car!

[@decimal1815]

Don't assume that the cars still have warranty. That depends on whether the car's been serviced according to manufacturers recommendations. I checked with an online retailer before buying recently and the car I thought had 3 years warranty actually had a void warranty. That's why it was cheap

[@elliottquinton2084]

Can you review the Peugeot 3008

[@josephgittos3787]

I am surprised the jaguar I pace wasn't in the list , I looked and going at as good price for such a great car

[@Upemm]

How do you test the battery on an sh EV ?

[@catmantech]

I may have missed it, but did you state if they are battery OWNED or battery LEASED used EVs, thinking back to one of your previous videos?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

No on has done leases for years. Only Renault and Nissan ever did.

[@kenbriooo2005]

I've been getting the last miles out of my Megane estate for the last few years while waiting to buy a used EV. I've been amazed by how much the prices of used cars have really dropped in this time. One of the bigger drawbacks for me, the insurance!

[@Sean_S1000]

Im going to keep hold of my petrol yaris for now, most reliable car i have ever owned, when it becomes expensive to repair or dies on me then i will be in the market for an ev, hopefully it's got a few years left in it at least. More time to save!

[@Antiguan_Dart]

In the UK if you are doing 10,000 miles a year with home charging of an EV you could be saving £1000 a year on your fuel bill, no road tax, no ULEZ charges, Congestion charge exemption, ultra low servicing costs and not to mention doing the local air quality and climate as a whole a favour. If you’ve got a good reason to change your car - maybe there’s a good argument not to delay. And if you are going 2nd hand you’ll most likely be getting a more reliable EV with longer remaining warranty than comparable ICE car of the same mileage. After 2 years of having purchased privately my EV - Genesis GV60 RWD funded by a windfall ( I made some money from a famous computer games company I was at for 8 years in the form of a private pension), my personal advice at the moment is only to buy new if you’re wealthy or got access to a windfall the depreciation is just too high as the technology and competition is so fast moving. I recommend leasing for a while and see what’s important to you in an EV. A poor choice of EV for one’s situation can be a very costly mistake. A lot of the expensive EVs on the road at the moment in the UK are business tax benefit purchases, subsidised employee lease schemes, fleet vehicles and private lease. Pensioners are purchasing with retirement windfalls. £40K-£60K on a new EV is a lot of money from anyone’s 9-5 salary!

[@Sean_S1000]

@@Antiguan_Dart based on my current mileage and mpg, road tax I would save 943 a year not including service cost as my car insurance premium will rise. Although I do appreciate all the points you, have raised to me leasing is throwing money down a hole and I always by second hand, so the cars I want are still currently above my budget and my car although it pollutes still perfectly fits my needs and I do not see the need to put my self in debt to get a new or second hand car In the future it will change and I will be looking to get electric car but now is not the right time for me. :)

[@Antiguan_Dart]

@@Sean_S1000thanks for sharing. A change of policy at work meant for me I was no longer eligible for a company lease car so was in the market for a vehicle - luckily there was a good fit for my personal circumstances with a few new EVs recently released. For me it was only ever a choice between the Ioniq 5, EV6 and GV60.

[@Sean_S1000]

@@Antiguan_Dart glad to hear, I like it when sensible people interact :). If I get a company car again (change of job) then it will be 100% an electric car

[@Sindhiboytravels]

I am surprised jaguar ipace is not on the list . Used are coming in an amazing price .

[@stevechelt1]

Also MG5 pre-facelift? Not the best looking or plushest of EVs but from what I see great value if you want a decent size family estate.

[@zaveeramini9712]

Whilst used EVs can be affordable to buy, I'd prefer to buy a new one to ensure there are no nasty expensive surprises down the line for years to come outside the warranty. Thanks for the well put together video.

[@patrickoconnor5494]

Cool story. Not everyone has 40k+ for a new EV. That's the whole point of the video.

[@zaveeramini9712]

@@patrickoconnor5494 hence why I said I'd prefer.

[@johniooi3954]

To be honest, far less chance of a EV being a dud, than a ice of the same age. Only nasty surprise would be battery & most of them have 8 year warranties. As is known from the early Leaf's Over 8 years, which did not have thermal management like newer models. Is not a issue that many face. Just like having to buy a new engine when something blows.

[@rickbaines8262]

@@johniooi3954 Not many would buy a new engine if it blew on an 8 year old car, just a recon or more likely a low mileage used example. Mate at work got his Golf 1.4tsi back on the road with a 74k engine supplied and fitted for £920 inc vat. Be a long time before we will be able to be a used EV battery for that price, probably never but, as you say, battery failure is pretty rare so not something to worry about too much.

[@eldridgep2]

And that's why cars like the Kia are so good because of the length of the warranty.

[@peterurquhart7191]

My favourite is fiat 500e

[@HoldLeadersAccountable]

Wish more honda EVs were here in Los Angeles!

[@burtis8925]

Its tough you can grab a VW UP! GTi for 10k Looks like it would be a laugh. Where as you can also get a Up! Electric with what 150mile range for £5000 upwards Id be tempted to get as much gti spec bits to make a E-Up! GTe I know though currently if i have £10k spare it would go on the GTi

[@rusty911s2]

Just waiting for Polestar 2 to drop a bit more!

[@Antiguan_Dart]

There are some interesting KZbin videos on the 2024 update of Polestar 2 over previous iterations. Notable now RWD, more power, more efficient, more range and faster charging. Things which were available on the competition years ago- eg. Ionic 5, EV6. I can’t forgive the Polestar2 for the rear cabin transmission tunnel making it in essence a 4 seater not 5 seater.

[@hughmarcus1]

Once hertz offload theirs they’ll be a load of cheap ones. They’re likely to be auctioned though.

[@faisalleeds]

Definitely one of the better looking EVs out there and a good alternative to the Model 3

[@poly518]

Citreon ec4x always goes missing but can guarantee this is the best ride out the lot of them

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

It’s was the same price last year as it is today (so a year older and no depreciation). So its value wasn’t quite there.

[@user-vo7tb8bf3f]

Your decking needs some TLC Andy 😂

[@pipedreamtv9697]

Good coat of Coal Tar creosote should do it 😂

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Summer job!

[@paguk2000]

What about the polestar

[@keithhokeili]

No one has mentioned the Hyundai Ioniq, is it due to the limited range and not having rapid charging?

[@colinphillipson4830]

The Hyundai Ioniq electric 28kWh and 38kWh both have DC rapid CCS charging where the 28kWh can achieve ~69kW and unfortunately the 38kWh is slower achieving only ~45/47kW maximum but mid 30s is the norm. The efficiency of these cars is renowned for achieving up to 6 miles per kWh (driving style and conditions dependant) and the 38kWh in summer can display a ~200 mile range on the GOM.

[@joaodomingues1559]

So, why not the Megane E-tech?😅

[@jakerogan2472]

How do you not include the Jaguar ipace on this list

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Months waiting on repairs at main dealers didn’t help.

[@jakerogan2472]

@@ElectricVehicleMan fair. What issues did you have? I only had one issue with mine. TCU failed and was replaced at the garage promptly. Good space. Surprisingly practical Real world 200-230 mile range Amazing handling and acceleration Great styling and interior quality. Bargain price

[@andrewgage6942]

If I could charge from home I would consider buying an electric vehicle even though I work nights, as I don't have access to off road parking, an electric vehicle is out of the question purely due to the lack of infrastructure in the area where I live, add that to the initial cost of buying an electric vehicle, the amount of technology, which I don't understand, and the fact that I can't pay for electricity with the kings currency as I do with diesel, it puts me off. Rather ironically, the first car you mentioned, the Corsa, really appeals to me, I've driven an electric Corsa and I really like it, it's not over the top with technology in the way of something like Tesla where everything is done on a screen, funny that you are allowed to use a screen in your car but not your phone, surely there's no difference, by the way I'm not condoning using a phone whilst driving, I also like the Honda E, it's quirky look and the squared looks of the Ioniq 5, the other issue I have is that you're still looking at paying over £10000, I bought my car 13 years ago and it's still going strong, should the infrastructure improve, I would consider an electric vehicle, the only other thing that puts me off is not being able to pay with cash, that is a huge issue for me

[@alexmaple4]

Which cars do you think are better than the Model 3?

[@Antiguan_Dart]

Because so much tech comes as standard on the Teslas it’s a significant hike in the UK brand new £45K model 3 price tag before you get to the equivalent vehicles from another manufacturer - ionic 5, EV6, GV60. Others often quoted competitors don’t have the efficiency, range, charge speed or tech ( good ADAS ) or the price is a significant jump again putting you in the luxury segment before you get all the features like in the case of the iX, EQC ( great tech with sumptuous luxury ) but ridiculously expensive or like the Tycan, Eletre incredible performance and even more ludicrous price tags once equipped up. But a factor which can upset all that is personal preference for driving characteristic. I like a firm ride communicative with the road, some people like something more wafting or need something with a lot of poke or a combination. The choice is getting bewildering now. Good luck.

[@faisalleeds]

Model 3 probably wins for charging network and tech. I would say Ioniq 5 and polestar 2 are closest competitors.

[@JonBurrows90]

My Skoda Superb PCP ends in September, I’m really tempted to get a Model 3, especially as my work has free ev chargers, I work 4 x hour shifts, theoretically I would never need to charge at home

[@TheAegisClaw]

I just bought a used Model 3lr, i had to hold my nose (because i really cant stand Elon), but after a test drive, theres just no arguing with 5 miles per kWh and supercharging (both cost and ease of use). £23.5k for a 21 car that does a real 330 miles. There's just nothing close.

[@fredclaydon2781]

Yes the costs of used ev cars are dropping a fair bit which is great, but my worry is their reliability and cost of repairs. Where to have them serviced etc. I fancy a Corsa electric car but I’ve read so many stories online about various problems it makes me wonder if I should stick to ice cars.

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Just as many stories online with ICE.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

Cost of repairs is a very common concern with non-EV drivers. But, on the face of it, whilst a standard combustion-engine has around 200-300 individual parts, an electric motor has 3. So, statistically, the powertrain in an EV is significantly less 'likely' to fault. And, as for batteries, most modern lithium-ion EV battery packs are good for 200,000 miles or more - considering the average mileage that cars go to be scrapped is between 77,000 miles and 157,000 miles, depending on which country the car's been driven in, even current battery tech is going to be perfectly long-lasting for the vast majority of drivers.

[@Jaw0lf]

The prices are low for a lot of these EV's especially the ones that were overpriced to start with. 3 to 4 years ago is when a lot of EV's came out that could easily manage over 3200 miles range, so are now making a fantastic 2nd hand electric car especially those with slightly higher mileage.

[@grahamkearnon6682]

I'm for ev transport, the problem is the current batch just dont go far enough per charge. The chinese are now selling 1000km cars which is good BUT, that means todays cars are going to see further resale values.

[@jonathantaylor1998]

That's a very common 'complaint' about range from non EV owners - which usually turns out to be inconsequential once they actually own an EV for a while. For example, most modern EVs will do around 250+ miles range-per-charge - sure, that appears low when compared to an efficient diesel car that can do 600+ miles on a tank of fuel. But, 600 miles is like driving from London to Inverness - a 10 hour drive. So, no-one in their right mind would even attempt that length of journey non-stop - it'd simply be unsafe. Actually, what most people do is drive for, say 3-4 hours, then take a 20-30 minute comfort break - pee, grab a coffee, catch up on emails etc etc before doing the next 3-4 hours. A 3-4 hour drive, at least here in the UK, is basically 200miles. So, instead of your car just being sat idle in the car park while you take your break - like drivers have done for decades - with an EV, you simply plug it in to any one of the huge number of public rapid charge points up & down the UK's road network BEFORE you take your break and, by the time you've done, the car's back up to 80-90% charge ready for the next 200 mile / 3-4 hour leg of your journey. It's just a different way of doing things - that's all.

[@Gripper-ie2qg]

The red 21 plate Tesla LR battery warranty is 120.000 miles. Its 100,000 miles for the standard range RWD Tesla's. 4 years on bumper to bumper or 50K miles, 5 yr warranty on the restraints systems and 8 yrs on HV Battery and drive motors.

[@ohyesitsme]

You missed what is the best of the cheaper bargains and that is the original Hyundai Ioniq. It is more efficient than any of the models that you quoted and has all the gizmos that you could ever wish for.

[@mrmawson2438]

Hello mate

[@cityblue0202]

The biggest problem with ev’s nowadays is insurance, teslas cost a grand even with full no claims, I’m looking at a Volvo xc40 single motor for £538

[@thathairyguy]

You featured the wrong Ioniq in my opinion... The OG Ioniq electric is generally overlooked but offers amazing value at £13k to £15k used, depending on spec and mileage. The "newer" version has a 38kWh battery and due to the crazy good efficiency gives a lot of the newer bigger battery cars a run for their money in terms of range. I'm seeing 200 real world miles out of mine at the moment, and I'm not particularly trying. That's nuts for a 38kWh battery!! The Ioniq 5 has some unique looks no doubt, but is nowhere near as efficient and about £7k to £8k more on the used market at the mo.

[@SmartMart1658]

Kia Soul is also a long range EV which is great value 2nd hand now.

[@FlyingFun.]

There are 40kwh brand new leafs for £17k with 20 miles on clock on autotrader so used prices need to come down even more maybe..

[@colinphillipson4830]

I recently saw a new pre registered NConnecta for £15,500.

[@ChaimLoecher]

Wow

[@AdamAugustPhoto]

Picked up a 21 plate Enyaq 80 Suite, quite high spec a couple of months ago with 31k on the clock for £25k. Absolutely love it, it's a great car and feels so much nicer than the ID.4 that I sat in. On a separate note, I noticed that the AT tracker plugin is still working for you. When I try to use it, auto trader seems to have blocked it. Are you able to get around that somehow?

[@no-oneman.4140]

Motorwatch - car price tracker.

[@AndrewEbling]

Agreed - recently bought likewise. I do wish I'd gone for that 80x SportLine, but the dealer was resolute he wouldn't move on price at all, and it was on for a bit too much.

[@colinphillipson4830]

They updated the AT Price Tracker Integration process and also removed their advertising banner which was AutoTrader's main reason to originally stop it.

[@Antiguan_Dart]

@@AndrewEbling. I recall telling a garage I’m as serious as a heart attack about buying a car today you’re the first garage I’ve been in and and hopefully the last and this is what I want. When they said the 0% finance deal wasn’t available on that model and tried to interest me in something else I said thank you I’ll try another garage. I was told to wait. They had me waiting nearly an hour then came back saying it would be a more complicated sale but they could do it! It was a 50% now 50% in 2 years time cash deal don’t know if that makes a difference. If a show room picks up on you being serious- and they can tell- they’ll not have you walk away. A genuine buyer has power and cash is king.

[@AndrewEbling]

@@Antiguan_Dart my favourite line, which has successfully bagged me £1k off previously, is "what can you do on the price to make me buy TODAY?". Same basic idea though - I'm here to buy a car, let's find something which works for both of us. The line I now how hear often in response is that the Internet has equalised all prices and that the discount has been factored into the price already. This is despite Autotrader giving you an indication of whether each car is competitively priced.

[@dan123collins]

£15,500 for a MG4 is mad ! They probably would have only offered the original owner £13,500 for it. So glad I sold mine 6 months ago, I got £19,500 for it. Great driving car, let down by terrible software / dangerous driver aids and build quality issues ( the low rent interior you can accept for the price )

[@Antiguan_Dart]

Can you outline some of the build quality issues you had?

[@Antiguan_Dart]

In the UK if you are doing 10,000 miles a year with home charging of an EV you could be saving £1000 a year on your fuel bill plus no road tax, no ULEZ charges, Congestion charge exemption, ultra low servicing costs and not to mention doing the local air quality and climate as a whole a favour. If you’ve got a good reason to change your car - maybe there’s a good argument not to delay. And if you are going 2nd hand you’ll most likely be getting a more reliable EV with longer remaining warranty than comparable ICE car of the same mileage. After 2 years of having purchased privately my EV - Genesis GV60 RWD funded by a windfall ( I made some money from a famous computer games company I was at for 8 years in the form of a private pension), my personal advice at the moment is only to buy new if you’re wealthy or got access to a windfall the depreciation is just too high as the technology and competition is so fast moving. I recommend leasing for a while and see what’s important to you in an EV. A poor choice of EV for one’s situation can be a very costly mistake. With increasingly more green tabbed registration plates (BEV) on UK roads the average punter must be thinking how can all these people afford these new expensive electric vehicles?! A lot of the expensive EVs on the road at the moment in the UK are business tax benefit purchases, subsidised employee lease schemes, fleet vehicles , disability mobility funded and private lease. Pensioners are purchasing with retirement windfalls. £40-£60K on a new EV is a lot of money from anyone’s 9-5 salary!

[@creosl]

He he u are recommending the old Kona ev. The first gen1 kona was just such huge shit of a car. My 2019 modell had so many big faults and still the hyundai dealer made me pay huge service cost every 15k km. After waranty ends it will be a nightmare to keep this car running. Even to get new parts can take months. And dont forget to change liquid cooling for the battery every 60k km. That alone cost 1000 euro each time.

[@alangravy27]

Kia told me they no longer do a 1 model because 1 on its own is bad lick in Korea

[@redshift3]

Jag i-Pace, luxury and power from £16k

[@Antiguan_Dart]

Not great efficiency though and mediocre maximum peak charge. And Poor reverse camera from what I recall (EDIT: see correction in thread about camera views).

[@redshift3]

@@Antiguan_Dart Agreed that the efficiency is poor (but the comfort, performance and handling are awesome) and the charging is state of the art (2018). The reversing camera is pretty good

[@Antiguan_Dart]

Getting a brand new EV now you need to accept the depreciation. In 8 years time when the battery warranty expires an EV of today is going to seem like ancient technology. Look at how quickly iterations of the iPhone come out and what that means for the value of previous versions. Loss of battery warranty will negligibly impact on the value as it’ll be pretty much worth nothing. However if/when a replacement is required which could be quite a few years after the 8 year warranty expires batteries of similar capacity may well be a pittance as battery tech improves and new third party companies get into battery maintenance/repair/servicing for out of warranty EVs.

[@thisisnumber0]

Why do msnufacturers try to make it impossible to determine a battery's SOH, state of health? What are they afraid of?

[@ElectricVehicleMan]

Same as engine health really. Can’t read fault codes.

[@EVPHASE]

Tesla Model 3 Standard Range

[@niceboy60]

Is anyone has experience with kias 7 year warranty??? 🤔🤨I heard they are not good at honouring it

[@pipedreamtv9697]

You would be correct, they put everything down to wear and tear!!! And let's face it if the motor falls out and slides in to a ditch and you've been using it, well that just fair wear and tear sir!!! Try fighting us....

[@eldridgep2]

Not on EV's but I had a Ceed for about 5 years and had no issues at all with work done under warranty. Mind you that was with a smaller independent dealer not a big chain.

[@Gdank72]

MG EV 5 .... yes doesn't excite anyone externally or internally. However massive boot, long range, & dead cheap.

[@justice4g]

only the I3 REX works for me because I don't want to use public chargers