Was the M&M AT4 1600 in red trim? In 76, 77 at NMC in Havre Montana. The diesel shop overhauled a red/white tractor that had basically a MM G1000 motor with only 4 main bearing. The motor had a broken crank. Took a long time to find a crank. I think it came out of Canada. This is when Big Bud built the 747. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
@georgestirewalt8508 Жыл бұрын
Good, Short video. Thanks
@bigtractorpower7 жыл бұрын
Your Steiger Tiger I picture came off my website. Peter Simpson took that picture back in 1999.
@bigtractorpower7 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jeremyswindell74605 жыл бұрын
Nice tractors!
@taylorh39306 жыл бұрын
I work for one of the biggest farmers in Saskatchewan Canada and we run John Deere! We have a couple of old Deere's one we have have is a 6030 John Deere that I pull a 35 cultivator with it when I hit the hills the front tires are in the air and it's all wheel breaks. I enjoy working the old 6030 we got a couple fields along the highway and when I got that 35ft cultivator as far as it'll dig and I got them tires starting to leave the ground and smoking a little smoke I get thumbs up from everyone.
@NorthEastSaskFarmer5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Tyler I’m from sask. any farm using a 6030 for field work is not going to be one of the biggest farms here.
@waylonfrazee46255 жыл бұрын
The allis chalmers 7580 needs to be on here
@grantlewton5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was not built until 1977. This video only covers 1970.
@heatmoon5 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks. Can you do a top 10 of 2wd tractor horsepower like this? They are lost into time, but Allis Chalmers made the 7080 which had 210hp, Case and Massey both made 200hp+ true 2 wheel drive tractors as well.
@brianlowe76084 жыл бұрын
the 1470 was a cosmetic upgrade to the old 1200 (crab steer )-about this time labor union strikes broke J.I.Case -which was then taken over by TENNACO-who proceeded with a new design 870-970-1070-1270-1370-1570-2470(articulated)-some old parts -some new -but especially their super quiet roll guard modular cab and powershifts-made them a huge seller in the 70's
@jeremylarson69206 жыл бұрын
You should do a top 10 Allis Chalmers models.
@waylonfrazee46256 жыл бұрын
I agree allis chalmers is the best
@darrelfuhrman8217 Жыл бұрын
I don’t remember the AC model, it was a Steiger frame, Steiger wiring harness, AC axles, I think AC engine. We brought 1 in from south of the lake with a blown motor, replaced it with the Steiger model Cat motor. I had to go out to get the air conditioning fixed on this one after we got it running. The problem was the micro switch on the dashboard controls. 250 miles to replace a micro switch!!! Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.
@backachershomestead4 жыл бұрын
There's a Wagner JD in Watseka/ Crescent city Illinois
@natethegreatone3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Not sure why you used the Oliver 2455 instead of the MM A4T-1600 or 1400. It was Minneapolis Moline's design after all. Maybe because it was the more rare variation.
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
A really cool looking machine, in the Oliver colour scheme, and as with the John Deere/Wagner tie up, was another exercise in badge engineering. At least some people seem to think this phenomena is a recent thing, but it has in fact been going on for many decades.
@tyrellwagner91267 жыл бұрын
I like the Wagner/ John Deere tractor
@gavingraham17316 жыл бұрын
Me too
@coltoncarpenter37906 жыл бұрын
John deere shafted Wagner on the contract and caused them to go bankrupt. John deere did it to a lot a company's shows how much a crook the company is. They hate the fact they can't get farmers to get rid of the tractors they built in from the 60s to the 90s for a new deere aswell.
@robertfoote32556 жыл бұрын
Colton Carpenter 😁😁 Your talking about me!
@blainevolesky96536 жыл бұрын
I agree, it like a lot of Deere's products was truly ahead of it's time
@coltoncarpenter37906 жыл бұрын
@@blainevolesky9653 deere wasnt ahead of the time when its Wagners design. Deere was and is normally behind on innovative moves. Usually the last to give in with change like their 2 cylinder tractors, conventional combines, the last of the 4000 series tractors in 93 and 94. Like i mention before deere also tries to shaft their competition if they cant buy them out.
@willllllll-r1f6 жыл бұрын
where is the massey ferguson 1800 4x4 ?? it had 180 hp at the drawbar !!!
@whiteout19627 жыл бұрын
Thanks That was interesting!!
@Fordfarmer97007 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a list of the most popular ford(s) thats 65 or newer! Great videos!
@_______________77626 жыл бұрын
nice video
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Not true?
@_______________77626 жыл бұрын
Mr. Diamond Lazy H sorry i don't see of1970. Grear video sorry.
@waylonfrazee46256 жыл бұрын
What about the Allis-Chalmers 4w 305
@grantlewton5 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was not built until 1982. This video only covers 1970.
@waylonfrazee46255 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@actorzone8567 жыл бұрын
Look up "Baldwin" made in Australia, started making them in production in late in 70s, biggest was 600 hp, closed shop early 1990's, extremely nice looking tractor.
@henrydouglas32845 жыл бұрын
actorzone 9
@charlesfuglie24917 жыл бұрын
i notice that the 145 versatile was hp at the draw would make it more at the engine because you lose some through the gears and that would put it higher on the list. it should put it about 175 or near that
@andymotl7 жыл бұрын
So what are you basing this off of? Engine hp or tractor weight?
@darrelfuhrman8217 Жыл бұрын
Most 4x4 tractors are rated off of the motor hp.
@darrelfuhrman82174 жыл бұрын
On the John Deere-Wagner, John Deere enter into a contract with Wagner, built for 4 years, then shutdown the factory before they paid off Wagner. Then made an Ag tractor out of a log skidder. The 7020.
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
When John Deere were involved with Wagner, as essentially a badge engineering exercise, part of the contract stipulated a non compete clause, inasmuch as so long as Wagner were making tractors for John Deere, they were not allowed to manufacture and sell any tractors under their own brand name. This effectively put the Wagner Tractor Company out of business. God only knows who in their right minds would have signed such a one sided deal in the first place, but that's what happened. I can only speculate that perhaps the Wagner Company were in financial dire straits, and signed such a contract, out of desperation. John Deeres' negotiators obviously drove an extremely hard bargain !
@davidkonning83957 жыл бұрын
You forgot the German tractors by the Company Anton Schlüter, witch had up to 200 hp in 1970 as prototype (Schlüter Super 2000v)
@davidkonning83957 жыл бұрын
no problem just a hint
@ryanfondie36806 жыл бұрын
What about the big bud with like 900hp
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Are you talking about the Bid Bud 747? It was made in 1977, not 1970
@ryanfondie36806 жыл бұрын
Mr. Diamond Lazy H that’s what I was talking about and ok
@thevox10755 жыл бұрын
Versatile 145 had 180hp, 145 at the drawbar.
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
I believe you are correct. American and Canadian tractor manufacturers usually quoted their tractor outputs in either PTO horsepower and/or drawbar horsepower, since both of these indicated more acurrately indicated how much power was available to do actual, useful work. Engine horsepower quotes were quite often meaningless, as a lot of power could be lost between engine, transmission, PTO and drawbar, due to either poor design or else at least some power was absorbed to run multi plate clutches in partial or full power power shift type transmissions, hydraulic services, electrical loads etc. No such thing as a free lunch, is an expression that readily springs to mind. Fendt produce the 1050 tractor with an advertised rating of 517 engine horsepower, but what is telling is that they don't advertise how much of that power is available at the PTO and drawbar, since a huge amount is absorbed through their transmission and all of the other all singing, all dancing features of that model. It remains the highest horsepower conventional rigid frame tractor on the market, but regardless of how you dress it up, what really matters, is how much of that power gets to the drive wheels. My personal opinion is that such a horsepower rating is better delivered to the ground via an articulated tractor on the grounds of better weight distribution under implement load - exactly how all artics are designed to be. No two wheel assist tractor, with unequal sized wheels can possibly compete with that, regardless of engine horsepower - it simply boils down to basic physics, which there's no getting away form. Furthermore, artic tractors would be generally less stressed as an overall design when compared with a tractor in the same horsepower category, but utilising a conventional rigid frame set up.
@bigbudw50937 жыл бұрын
The Versatile 145 was 180 engine hp from a Cummins 470. 145 is the drawbar hp. I think you might be mistaking the 145 for the 118 or 125 because I think one of those two tractors had a 155 engine hp. Also, the Big Bud HN 250 was either 280 or 310 hp. It actually had two engine options. Good work though.
@keithdickie55506 жыл бұрын
Just to add a note, the 118 Versatile had a V6 352 ci engine 145 hp & the 125 Versatile was a gas with Ford 391 V8
@plowboy2485 жыл бұрын
I just got out of a Big Bud HN-250 it is a 400 HP machine
@aldenh95607 жыл бұрын
Where's the Internationals ? IHC made several
@alan29825 жыл бұрын
@Equillizer Armtwister Not in the 70's they didn't
@wms16505 жыл бұрын
@@alan2982 Right, I think it was mid 1960's. Big Yellow tractors that stood out from all the red International equipment. I think they were 4100.
@Ethan-ck6iz6 жыл бұрын
what about the Oliver 2655
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
It wasnt produced until 1971 was it? This video only includes tractors from 1970. Sweet tractor though, we owned a White 4wd, that was basically an updated Oliver
@gavingraham17316 жыл бұрын
This is a video request, could you do a video on the best selling Allis-Chalmers tractor?
@nellsonstout70016 жыл бұрын
I think a Versatile 145 is more like 173 engine horsepower. Drawbar horsepower tends to be anywhere from 30 horsepower less than engine horsepower or more on a tractor that size. As for the 2455, not even 10 were made. Even the biggest experts on White farm equipment and the brands that made it aren’t sure. There’s either 2,1, or 0
@nellsonstout70016 жыл бұрын
Also, the tigers you showed were 2 turbo tiger 1s which weren’t out yet in 1970 and a 2200. Not complaining by the true Tiger 1 is extremely well and there’s a lot of confusion. If you’d like, give me your email address and I’ll send you pictures of a real tiger 1
@maico49066 жыл бұрын
Deutz dx 230????
@waylonfrazee46256 жыл бұрын
What about the top 10 allis chalmers
@collin7647 жыл бұрын
Can you show NewHolland tractors
@bryanhenderson36887 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to that was interresting , and i would like to add that. Stiger built tractors for ford and Intl Harvester . They were the same tractor just a paint scheme and a name change like Wagner did for deere Also check into Woods Copeland and Rome those wete fairly large for there time.
@darrelfuhrman82174 жыл бұрын
Wrong! The Ford was a Steiger painted blue & white. The IHC was a Steiger frame & cab. IH motor, IH transfer case, IH axles. That is why most 4366’s got parked, fan though the radiator, or transfer case out. The AC I think was a Steiger painted orange, black, & white.
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
@@darrelfuhrman8217 Correct. The Stieger built Fords (built from 1977 thru '82/83 ish) were based on Stiegers' own equivilent Series III 'ST' (Narrow Frame - 39"), designated tractors. These tractors had a slightly longer wheelbase of 132•50", versus the 128•00" wheelbase of the 'ST' designated Stiegers (Wide Frame 44"). These tractors also had the option of a hydraulically driven PTO, which gave either 54hp at 540 rpm or 105hp at 1000 rpm. All previous Stiegers didn't feature a PTO, up until this point. You are indeed correct that with the tie up with IH in 1973, they specified their own axles and engines and had the tractors styled in keeping with the equivilent high horsepower two wheel drive tractors of the era. A particulary problematic model was the V8 engined model, with the engine itself causing several issues. Not a very reliable machine. It is telling, that many (but not all) artic tractor manufacturers these days specify large capacity 6 cylinder engines for their machines, and in many cases also, will be bought in from an outside manufacturer, as the cost of developing ones own engine for what is still a comparatively small market share (artic versus rigid), does not make financial sense - the figures simply do not stack up.
@Jimsranch Жыл бұрын
Woods and Copeland???
@gorangoran633510 ай бұрын
Steiger Panther?
@adameastham2325 жыл бұрын
were was the big bud 747 it was made in 1977
@grantlewton5 жыл бұрын
This video only covered models produced in only 1970, thanks for watching!
@adameastham2325 жыл бұрын
@@grantlewton ok good vid
@williamchambers72357 жыл бұрын
Howdy. Would you be able to find out how many Oliver tractors that were branded as cockshutt were made? There doesn't seem to be any info anywhere. If you check out my last video I posted you will see why I'm wondering. Thanks for the video.
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
You are correct, that info is hard to come by.
@coltoncarpenter37906 жыл бұрын
Theres an oliver in Guthrie, Oklahoma.
@Toro-cv7fs6 жыл бұрын
steigers!
@averymullen45056 жыл бұрын
What about big bud 747 that was made in 77
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
This video only cover tractors produced in 1970
@wth824 жыл бұрын
You left out woods Copeland who Rome industries bought out.
@benduffin57275 жыл бұрын
Why wasn’t the John Deere 6030 on here
@dezznutzz53166 жыл бұрын
You forgot the 16v-747
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
It was made in 1977, not 1970
@dezznutzz53166 жыл бұрын
Ph sorry
@thesilentg39417 жыл бұрын
Where is a K 700 and a T 150!!?!?
@thermidorlevrai657 жыл бұрын
Grant i was thinking the same thing
@nuidog473 жыл бұрын
#3 oh only 1 qtr of me
@jayden43796 жыл бұрын
Should've added the Mf4wd
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Which massey 4wd was made in 1970?
@jayden43796 жыл бұрын
Mr. Diamond Lazy H the 1500 and 1800 series
@jayden43796 жыл бұрын
Mr. Diamond Lazy H introduced in 69
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
You are right. I am under the impression they were not produced until 1971 despite being announced in 1969.
@walterlavayen30635 жыл бұрын
Zanello argentino motor cat 315 hp mod 1979
@Bigfootfirewood217 жыл бұрын
U completely missed Allis Chalmers 440 at 218
@dolansmith71436 жыл бұрын
AC 440 came out in '73.
@aldenh95607 жыл бұрын
The 4156 would qualify then
@George-jy7op6 жыл бұрын
Your list is inaccurate what about the Big Bud 950
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
I'm not aware it was made in 1970
@toro220d5 жыл бұрын
What about the right earthquake 750
@toro220d5 жыл бұрын
And the big Bud 747
@toro220d5 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that they were built later in the seventies big Bud 747 and the earthquake
@paulupton46976 жыл бұрын
Upton tractor from Australia should have made this list.
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Only did US tractors in this video, but Upton Tractors are sweet. Interesting history!
@IH-lt1fr7 жыл бұрын
What ticked me off was the fact that u didnt put in any ih tractors such as the 4366 and the 4568
@hammerslammer30067 жыл бұрын
4100
@chriscoble83946 жыл бұрын
they were made well after 1970.
@fordfarmer97photography116 жыл бұрын
Lol, and those are repainted Steigers, can't remember what model tho
@coltoncarpenter37906 жыл бұрын
@@fordfarmer97photography11 steiger chassis with ih sheet metal and engines.
@fordfarmer97photography116 жыл бұрын
@@coltoncarpenter3790 Yeah that's what it was, I got mixed up
@wa7shf5 жыл бұрын
Steiger was from Germany
@jamesbarbour8400 Жыл бұрын
@@jamiekouba9846Correct - niether Germany nor Norway ever built Stiegers - they were only ever built in the USA. Stiegers did however, utilise RABA built drive axles on some of their tractors and these were sourced from that Company, based in Hungary, in Europe. RABA also built some Steiger tractors under a badge engineered licence, with their own name on the tractor, for a least a short while, for the European market.
Granted I know nothing about tractors but why so little horsepower???
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Tractor engines are rated differently than a car. Tractors geared lower, and the engines are made to hold a continuous load. It is a much larger engine than a car of 245 HP.
@thermidorlevrai656 жыл бұрын
@@grantlewton 245hp tractor have more power than 600hp car
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
Is that not what I said?
@tcmits3699 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad the Russians don't build large tractors, oh wait they do. And they're probably still using them today😊
@Jschultzy214 жыл бұрын
I wonder what number 1 is.. Wait u did it wrong Big bud 747 was the biggest
@ontarioagguy27697 жыл бұрын
Where is the allis lol!!
@ontarioagguy27697 жыл бұрын
Ah yes I see that makes sense great channel I just subbed
@bradducharme36287 жыл бұрын
Allis made a tractor? 😂🤣
@olivertheguitarist45964 жыл бұрын
My name is Oliver 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-jq1nn3ut5s6 жыл бұрын
Is this list supposed to be tractors that existed in 1970 or 1970 model year? The Deere Wagners are model year 1969, except for one which was a 1968 model.
@kalvinlabuik33666 жыл бұрын
Again way off the mark lol showing wrong pictures of tractors he was talking about couple tractors had scream Jimmy in them
@scottjaecques74096 жыл бұрын
There was a lot of 2455 Oliver's built but there were only 10 propane built !! What about the 2655 Oliver or the 7520 deere this guy knows nothing about tractors
@grantlewton6 жыл бұрын
This video only covers tractors built in 1970. The 2655 was not built until 1971 and the 7520 was not built until 1972. Does that help?
@NWIA_Grips5 жыл бұрын
Diamond Lazy H You said the 2455 had a Diesel engine. There were more than 10 diesel 2455’s produced.