Top 10 Confusing Card Mechanics in YuGiOh

[@nanokeroro]

This is what they learn at the Duel Academy

[@louaidz1929]

And all of his top 10 videos

[@firewolf950tfwgaming7]

And people say a school for children’s card game makes no sense.

[@MrVariant]

No pendulum summons sadly. Literally the cards with the most words and are monsters and spells (damn you anti-spell fragrance). Hell I just upgraded my Yosenju Misak to Aether, the evil empowering dragon, which is a great retrain of a crappy pendulum monster as it also is a good target for Ninja Grandmaster Hanzo or that pendulum ninja twilight ninja jogen for ninjutsu art of super transformation. Another confusing mechanic is how much the rules changed for the extra deck for pendulum monsters. Easier to pendulum summon 2 monsters with one to extra deck zone (if face up from being destroyed or sent to graveyard for synchro/link summon (xyz they go to grave), normal summon phantom skyblaster and link summon. Still go all in as your spells need to set up pendulum scales (between is not including, so 2-6 if 1 and 7 scales) or plus in card advantage somehow.

[@MrVariant]

@@firewolf950tfwgaming7 reading comprehension goes through the roof if one doesn't have the ADHD to go crazy from reading all those damn effects on one card.

[@animayor3808]

Crolwer be proud

[@tvftw1]

"If you cheated out BEUD and it's now in your GY, you can't use monster reborn on it because it remembers not being properly special summoned" This feels like a ruling that either caused or resulted from a salty fistfight at a local tournament

[@retrolightning2k86]

"HOW THE FUCK CAN A PIECE OF CARDBOARD REMEMBER YOU PIECE OF SH-"

[@LieutenantP1ckle]

This still doesn't make any sense to mez I've been playing for years and he completely lost me

[@QuasiGame0]

@@LieutenantP1ckle if you use a card that bypasses the regular special summon conditions of a monster that requires that condition to be met in order to be summoned(Stardust Dragon/Assault mode), then you can't use cards like monster reborn afterwards to revive it from the gy since the card never met its proper special summoning condition

[@JB-su6cu]

@@QuasiGame0 to be fair, I understand how it works, but I totally fail to understand why it was decided that it should work that way based on the content of the card text (like yea balance and all that, but it sure feels like the fact that this was slapped onto all extra deck monsters at some point was very arbitrary, especially once you start getting into the edge cases of what counts as a ‘proper special summon’ and what counts as ‘cheating’ the conditions evidenced by the #2 in the video)

[@fuckcontinentals]

@@JB-su6cu Yea like assault mode stardust dragin makes sense cuz jt has restrictions placed on it, BEUD doesn't

[@KoriKeiji]

Things that I learned from this video: - Don’t play Yang Zing - Don’t play Pole Position - Don’t play Assault Mode - Only use MST on Mystic Mine

[@ggame3987]

I learned I shouldn't play yu-gi-oh

[@thedootlord]

Dont play dark world and fadelds jn the same deck..... or room or anywhere NEAR each other

[@Ichijoumi]

I still feel that is stupid that a when clause has a miss timing and the if doesn't. In his example the way i see it is that two cards gets destroyed(using common sense and not this convoluted misstiming ruling) yan zing gets destroyed by break which is an effect, that triggers the yang because thats the when its destroyed clause then another yan zing gets to the field and it gets destroyed by the dark hole. To me the one that should be losing its effect would be the dark hole itself not the monster because the effect timing is when it gets destroyed, it is at the moment of destruction, the opponent just caused it at a higher chain, thats all. Feel free to call me dumb because if is optional, when is mandatory, its expecting an action by interaction. Its nonsense to have it viceversa.

[@OmicronX-1999]

@@Ichijoumi It's because the effects are on a chain, and a chain can't be interrupted by other card effects once it starts to resolve. 'When' effects have to happen at the exact moment they're triggered, any other effect triggering before they can resolve will cause them to miss the timing. I know, it's frigging stupid, and I'm convinced that there was originally no intended distinction between 'when' and 'if' trigger effects, until someone brought it up in a tournament and got the ruling upheld. The game would be way easier to understand if all the rules lawyering were completely taken out and rulings were simplified and standardised. But that would change the results of some tournaments, so it'll never happen. They should at least errata Dark Hole with an additional line explaining that it needs to specifically be negated to stop its effect. I literally didn't get my head around that until I got back into the game early this year, in 2005 we always played MST to counter Dark Hole and didn't see any reason not to. Seemed obvious to us that a card can't resolve its effect if it's been destroyed first.

[@KoriKeiji]

@@Ichijoumi Unfortunately some cards in the current format are balanced around being able to miss the timing. First example that comes to mind is the Paleozoic trap cards, which are Special Summoned from the GY “when” a trap card is activated. If you couldn’t miss timing, by activating a single trap card you could summon 5 Paleozoics in a single chain.

[@GellyVelly]

I always thought "misses timing" felt more like a glitch than a rule that makes logical sense. I mean I get the whole "has to be the last thing that happens" thing. But it still feels more like something that would happen in a video game variation of yugioh because of a mistake in programming rather than a physical IRL card game. There's def waaay too many rulings in yugioh that would be really hard to understand from just reading the card, and tbh I think thats just bad game design.

[@thefisherman0074]

The missed timing rule is definitely one of the stupidest things about yugioh. But hey that’s how it is

[@hnfiiinc5993]

@@thefisherman0074 Just learn to play the game? Get good? I learned this with Geartowns, and it’s not a hard concept. “If” vs. “when” - just like coding or law. I can’t imagine what other ruling you guys find hard and thus stupid when it’s the barely functioning idiot that’s the problem. Kvetch harder and maybe Konami or another company might listen. Maybe, they’ll make a kiddie pool with your name on it.

[@sw33t.angela]

@@hnfiiinc5993 m8, this video covers the most frustrating and obscure rules. How tf do you know something targets a card implicitly or not when it doesn't say? Missing timing is the worst thing because why does its effect not resolve since it was discarded? "Negate" being a very heavy word and occasionally implied and something that MST doesn't do even though you destroy it? Monster reborn can't special summon a monster that was "improperly" summoned? Why allow special summoning a card that has strict conditions on its summoning? Duel Monsters didn't start with key words or a clear path and I'd argue this caused the mess they are in today with wordy card text and even wordier rules. Fusion monsters were the first extra deck cards and didn't have a well defined summoning condition yet other than using Polymerization. The only effect that had a keyword was FLIP which didn't really make it into other cards or effects. Magic has a ton of keywords and simple costs while also allowing complex effects. They don't have to have a description that reads like a legalese paragraph on most cards. I'll admit, wordy and confusing rulings aren't exclusive to yugioh. Magic and Pokemon have them. But YGO brings it to another level.

[@CapOb314]

@@sw33t.angela I can guarantee that if the other guy ever replies, he's gonna hit you with the "Text wall. Argument invalid."

[@GellyVelly]

@Dale Soulflare Yeah, totally. I'm a MTG player first and just play yugi casually. And the MTG rules have ALWAYS been waaaay more sensible. I mean sure MTG has it;s own weird/confusing things but...not like this.

[@CombatFan134]

Alternative title: Top 10 ways Yugioh players are niche lawyers.

[@charallave1000]

This is gold

[@maX0229567]

lmao

[@ChrisPTY507]

Yeah these games of words sounds like something a lawyer could take a chance on. Such a BS way to make rulings

[@CombatFan134]

ChrisPTY507 - No Commentary Gaming It’s like a compilation of made up rules the try hard on the playground used to steal wins/advantages when they were losing. Like the miss timing thing. One kid tries to destroy something. Try hard counters. Then pulls the timing thing to keep their card in play.

[@GigaPhoenix9001]

Freaking punctuation or lack thereof decides what is a cost for an effect or if it an effect at all. Like Lair of Darkness allows you to tribute your opponent's monster to activate your effects... but NOT as an effect to tribute a monster, or to special summon a Monster like Galaxy-Eyes Photon Dragon; Who can not be used with Lair of Darkness, as his Special Summon is not an "activated Effect..." Why? Because there is no ; or : so it's not an effect. DX Unlike Duke shade the sinister shadow lord who's special Summon effect is "You can Tribute any number of DARK monsters* ; * Special Summon this card from your hand, and if you do, it gains 500 ATK for each Tributed monster." That one can work with Lair of Darkness "simply" because the ; says the tribute is a cost... then there's old cards like like Cannon Soldier MK-2 that do not follow this punctuation rule but still work with it ("You can tribute 2 monsters to inflict 1500 damage to your opponent"). ... Stupidly technical and inconsistent this "Children's card game" can be.

[@Khanmanlol]

If I were writing the rules of card effects, for "Silent Wobby", I would have worded it like this: "During your Main Phase, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand) to your opponent's side of the field. If summoned this way: the player who controls this card Draws 1 card, while their opponent gains 2000LP. The effect of "Silent Wobby" can only be used once per turn. The hand size limit of this card's controller become 3."

[@andresvillalobos9750]

TheDuelLogs: *has a video that discusses infinite loops* Pole Position: Now this looks like a job for me.

[@waiyon1951]

I feel like if they add a hard limit on how many times Pole Position can trigger it be fine like only 5 times per turn.

[@hhaavvvvii]

@@waiyon1951 "At the start of each phase"

[@Frostnburn]

The card is in a Pole Position to discuss such matters

[@BronzeAnalystTM]

Reading is already confusing for the average Yu-Gi-Oh player... We don't even know what Pot of Greed does

[@dustingideon5719]

I think it allows you to kill 2 Joestars at the same time.

[@UnknownGamer40464]

Doesn't it make you win if you have 2 cards in your hand?

[@greninjassj691]

@@UnknownGamer40464 no, no, it makes you win if you are able to read the entire effect and if you draw the exact same xard you want, which will happen 99.99% of the time

[@gaminggamergamevideogame322]

no it lets you draw 2 cards from your hand

[@Zhortac]

It let's you summon Pot of Greed

[@Carlitonsp1]

Missing the timing messed me up. My boi "Peten the Dark Clown" got turned useless in an instant.

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

Lightpulsar Dragon knows that feeling

[@ramaroy2408]

@@musiyevonchilla6769 lightpulsar deserve it as it can be abused by pre errata REDMD to either FTK or SS each other infinetly. That's why lightpulsar got errata before it was released (in the promo the effect is "If ..... You do" and then changed to "when...... You can" in the official card)

[@garymcginnis8511]

my friend texted me recently and was like, "dude! why don't people play Peten, it's literally Malicious!" and we were both baffled until we realized.

[@canceryahhh]

I cry when Yubel misses her timing 😢

[@o7_AP]

My biggest (realistic) hope for Yu-Gi-Oh is that they eliminate missing the timing entirely. It currently serves no real balancing purpose and it just randomly screws over older cards and certain archetypes as well as making the game more confusing.

[@TWLSpark]

Paleozoics when you can't miss timing anymore and you can swarm the entire field with a single trap: 😎

[@derda3209]

@@TWLSpark how?

[@wallisbudge4022]

Good thing now Miss The Timing is just meaningless jargon, SEGOC saved us all!

[@dudono1744]

​@@TWLSparkCan't you give them "You cannot activate the effects of other "Paleozoic" cards in your GY in the same Chain as this effect" ?

[@HazhMcMoor]

Nooo YZ will be broken without it??!!??

[@itriggerpeople4433]

I feel like this video should be 3 times as long

[@questrequested9171]

@@number-qx1kw how cheerful

[@damagedjefff6821]

@number 39 you are more toxic than the people at my locals

[@jxivanx]

Even with a brief explanation some of them I didn't get them at all For example discard costs and timing

[@jackshizuho1491]

@@number-qx1kw @number 39 and he said, and I quote " you are more toxic than the people at my locals". So the people at his locals don't say that wheather a meme or not, read his comment like you read your cards...

[@runningoncylinders3829]

The only one that could've gone a bit more in-depth was which old cards Target. He kinda left that thread open, yet the others were explained well enough for anybody to understand.

[@joshobrien3467]

first time I learned about missing the timing I just wanted to walk into the ocean

[@Tpainactual]

Same

[@justharkho]

You should include the damage step, its sub-steps, and their relation to turn player prority. This was really confusing when I tried to attack with a light monster into opponent's light monster and both of us want to be the second to activate Honest to win that battle.

[@CeruleanChurch]

How the hell do even resolve that? Flip a coin? Rock-Paper-Scissors?

[@robrick9361]

@@CeruleanChurch No you just stop playing the game because your wasting time on something that even the creators couldn't bother to design properly.

[@oakleyraverty1030]

Late I know, but that would just activate at the same time during the damage step and likely destroy both monsters

[@bigd8122]

Hey, he did a whole video on the damage step for incorrigible morons like us.

[@oakleyraverty1030]

@Jesse Mathis I googled it and the person who activates first during the damage step wins because the opponent's Honest if chained would be resolved first meaning the first honest wins.

[@animesky965]

Me: *Explaining this rule to someone just start yugioh.* Beginner player: what? But this is not in the rule book.

[@krullachief669]

yeah having like, the master rules in the rulebooks would probably help a little, let alone just, so much more shit

[@siegturtle2335]

@@krullachief669 my body is ready for a thicc player's handbook with 52 pages in my starter deck

[@hunterwalker4256]

Team APS skit right here

[@SuperVoodude]

Kids these days don’t seem to have the same luxury some of us did growing up with Yugioh video games being consistently released. That’s where I learned about missing the timing and such.

[@DD-fs7pg]

@@SuperVoodude Pretty much, digital card games are just superior because they get around issues like this and more.

[@svcross-do]

My favourite children's card game.

[@spartanq7781]

That people use to vaguely attempt to take over the world.

[@BloodfelX]

Child me be all like: "The Pokemon trading card game is too complicated, I prefer Yu-Gi-Oh" Then wonder why barely anyone plays the same card games as me. I remove from play cards, then later summon those cards which were removed from play. Which isn't the same thing as being in the Graveyard; that's why you couldn't use Monster Reborn on it- Hey wait, I'm not cheating! It's the rules!

[@Kaitokid730]

It's a children's card game if you stick with dark magician 😂😂

[@bensell982]

@@Kaitokid730 nope there's a spell card that is purely dark magician support but it can't be searched out by dark magician spell card searchers because the card refers to dark magician as an archetype and not dark magician specifically.

[@Kaitokid730]

@@bensell982 well that one is ruined😗. Then Mokey mokey is the way to go 😎

[@HTheHunter]

"Blackwing - Vayu the Emblem of Honor is the only card that let you perform a extradeck summon from the graveyard" Shiranui Spectralsword: Am i a joke to you?

[@jxivanx]

Next ideas for a video: Top 10 archetypes with confusing play styles Top 10 best field spells Top 10 archetypes with high reliance on combos / graveyard/ banish zone Top10 best reptile, wyrm or thunder monsters Top 10 cards that have not been reprinted in a long time

[@brianaguilar8283]

Weather Painters Necrovalley Guardragon Evil Dragon Ananta Any tournament pack promo

[@thek838]

The top 2 reptiles would be danger tsuchinoko and tyrant Neptune for sure.

[@danieltentori7523]

Ultimate conductor tyranno and all the kaiju's need reprints ASAP

[@lorenomiletic7059]

He already did top 10 reptiles with dzeef

[@mfznal-hafidz8592]

1. Crystron, Ritual Beast, Spellbook, etc. 2. Flawless protection of tenyi, fusion gate, magical citadel of endymion, Toon kingdom, etc. 3. GY: Vendread, Shiranui, Mayakashi, Red-Eyes, Superheavy Samurai. Banished: Metaphys 4. Evil Dragon Ananta, Mystery Shell Dragon, Thunder King Raioh, etc. 5. Archlord Zerato. I don't know.

[@payne9682]

Honorable mention : Konami forgetting to give good support to Pyro and Reptile types all the time. It really be hard to understand the mechanic behind that playstyle. Day 523 of waiting for Good Pyro/Volcanic Support to arrive in Blazing Vortex.

[@svcross-do]

Hey!

[@snivygreen2216]

Yep more reptile effects

[@jxivanx]

Agreed . I think the most forgotten types are: pyro, thunder, aqua , reptile , wyrm and spirit

[@callmefried544]

What about that pyro/volcanic synorch monster where you can give it to your opponent and your opponent takes 2000 damage untill that monster leaves. Or something like that.

[@lukasr1166]

The one and only payne 96!

[@adamchristopher6917]

Regarding #2, what about Shiranui Spectralsword? Doesn’t he have a “synchro summon from grave” effect?

[@despotar_c_7100]

Yes it does

[@MrPablo9215]

I was thinking the same

[@ChrisPTY507]

He sit have. The guy was wrong saying vayu is the only one

[@r4nd0mguy99]

Shiranui Spectralsword CAN special summon a synchro monster, BUT that summon doesn‘t count as a synchro summon.

[@naos8116]

@@r4nd0mguy99 Neither does Vayu's.

[@Lightwaverable]

I feel like a lot of the mechanics in Yu-Gi-Oh are sort of just accidents that they just went with, like targeting and not targeting

[@robrick9361]

That's exactly what happened. Take a look at the earliest Fusion monsters. Gaia the Champion = 1 2300 double tribute + 1 2000 single tribute + polymorization, all for 2600 ATK with no effect. Blue Eyes White Dragon = 2 tibutes only The just took cards from the show and turned them into product. The rules were figured out later when people actually wanted to play a "real" game.

[@Rieras]

nah, I feel like they made these rulings up to constantly screw with their opponents in the early days. "you can't do that, you just missed timing!" "tf you on about?" And that it was hard to implement these rules in the first place due to backlash

[@chazzitz-wh4ly]

It’s the equivalent of playing pretend and your friend says he is invincible and you say nuh-uh I shot you first before that. That’s the vibe I get when these niche rulings that impact an entire game come up.

[@jameshoang2060]

I would've thought "Inherent and Non-Inherent Summons" would be on this list

[@AnimatedIdiotGuide]

Inher-what now? 😳

[@mateusrp1994]

@@AnimatedIdiotGuide You know how some monsters have effects that let them Special Summon themselves? Some of them don't count as "effects" but as a "condition", thus cards that respond to an effect activation can't respond to them because no effect was activated, you just reached a condition that allowed you to Special Summon that monster. You can tell an effect from a condition if the line that describes the Special Summon procedure has a colon, activated effects have colons thus they start chains. It's the difference between Nibiru (its an activated effect, thus Appolousa can negate it) and the Kaiju s(its a condition, thus it can't be negated). Though its still a Summon, so Solemn Strike still negates even Special Summon conditions. It's just cards that respond to effect activations that get bypassed.

[@AnimatedIdiotGuide]

@@mateusrp1994 ...i've been out of this game way too long XD

[@samueljackson3512]

@@mateusrp1994 im not sure this is correct Im pretty sure solemn still misses some summons.

[@MrVariant]

That's true, damn you horn of heaven style trap cards for non-inherent stuff like rituals or fusions. Also can't negate inherent summons from stuff like mist valley apex avian as they're not monster effects. I check the comments section for these vids as they're better (I commented on pendulum summons being the most confusing)

[@EmmaSenshi]

The video might as well be titled: 10 reasons why people stop playing YuGiOh

[@Halfmania]

Or "10 reasons why people don't start playing YuGiOh"

[@DrGandW]

I just don’t get missing the timing, it just seems backwards to say the effect *has to happen* as soon as the conditions are met, when you could just say that the effect *happens* as soon as the condition is met, so if it would miss timing even though the condition is being met by another card in the chain it just jumps up the chain to activate after the first card to resolve and meet the condition. I can imagine that maybe changing the order of chains as they resolve could cause problems but the way it works is just an odd interpretation of “when”. Sounds like it should be something that ties itself to an event and happens simultaneously.

[@DylanHlava]

This wasn't in the video, but a ruling that I recently learned about monsters that cannot be Normal Summoned / Set is the wording of "first". If a monster is first properly Special Summoned by it's effect, which says that it "Must first be Special Summoned", then it can be revived by a card effect. But if that "first" is missing, it can only be brought out by it's summoning conditions, unless ignored by a card effect. For example, Chaos Sorcerer, can be brought out from the Graveyard after it's been properly Special Summoned, but it's retrain, Lightray Sorcerer, cannot be brought back because it doesn't have "first" in it's summoning conditions. It's a lot like the "when vs if" wording for Graveyard effects. This also applies for monsters that say "Must be Fusion Summoned", or cards like Masked Heroes that can only be brought out by their summoning card. They can only be Special Summoned by Fusion Summon and can't be revived at all, even if properly fusion summoned.

[@Kralex121]

The mechanic that really surprised me back in the day was the old Trap Monster mechanic. I always just imagined they would leave the spell/trap card zone or if not that don't occupy a monster zone. But the fact that they used to occupy both just really confused me when I first heard about it.

[@kawaiizombiegal]

its bs that optional effects miss timing when other non optional "when effects" can't miss timing,

[@Karanthaneos]

My go to for understanding these was the when, and now I learn that some when effects don't miss timing because they're worded in a way that makes their effects mandatory... What the hell

[@RickertUrgen]

it can't miss timing when it has to happen... how should that work? Konami should have made all when effects to if to never have this problem anymore

[@Karanthaneos]

@Charmiskit Yeah, but the problem is that all those cards are still legal, just because they don't have a reprint doesn't mean the problem went away. They need a ruling or something that just makes the missing timing situation to go away. I wonder how many cards would genuinely become a lot more playable if the missing timing ruling just went away.

[@ramaroy2408]

@@Karanthaneos hell no, Miss timing is needed in the game. Cards with when that Miss timing can be abused and turn into degenerate. Also when effect that always Miss timing Will followed by "you can" and the mandatory when is never have that follow up. Lightpulsar dragon is one example why Konami turn it's effect from "If you do" to "when you can" so it can't be abused with pre errata REDMD. What we need is reprint of old cards with the new card text.

[@ramaroy2408]

@@RickertUrgen um no, "when...... You can" that can Miss timing because it's optional. You have the option to activated it but because something already happened before you can use it, you Miss the time to use it. The "When" mandatory effect don't have "you can" follow up so they can't Miss timing, this not optional and must happen. It isn't that hard to be honest.

[@hoangminhle1964]

7:26 "Basically just dont play Pole Position and you're good to go" Big brain logic right here

[@yunleung2631]

Top ten cards that would be good if they didn’t miss the timing.

[@dynomite9524]

#1 peten the dark clown

[@MrSuperAJ]

Okay, now I understand why they invented a duel academy. Omg.

[@tobysmith4551]

Top 10 lvl 10 monsters

[@thevideo-beast122]

I am both shocked and yet happy that you didn’t mention Pendulum cards. Pendulum cards are my personal favourite cards in yugioh, but I know how confusing they can be and I understand why players don’t playing with/against them.

[@vincentwiliamphilips]

awesome I feel like you based this video on my" top 10 card ruling nightmares" comment :)

[@DC-yf2sw]

This is why I will never play the physical version of the game, only the videogames

[@panduanugrah765]

Vayu is the only card that can be used to synchro summon from the graveyard *Shiranui spectralsword has left the chat*

[@juanmanuelgiraldo5239]

One more: effects that affect cards on the field or face up cards. For example, if you use a monster effect while your opponent has a Madame Verre and they try to negate it using her effect, you can chain something like Ballista Squad to tribute your monster and since it would no longer be face up on the fiel, it's effect would not be negated since Verre's text specifies "all face up monsters your opponent currently controls".

[@ShadowHazy]

Isn't he has already mentioned it when talk about MST and Book of moon.

[@lorenzo1412]

I'm 100% sure you came here directly from duel links

[@VieShaphiel]

I haven't played Yu-Gi-Oh for about 15 years, and it's amazing that I recognize more than half of the things on this list

[@M3G4T3RR4]

I knew missing timing would be here, but I oofed so hard when I saw the Yang Zing Card immediately

[@TheEmeraldboy100]

Regarding #1, Magic solved this problem by using terms like "this card's controller" and "this card's owner".

[@jk844100]

Yugioh cards have that as well, it’s just inconsistent with the usage

[@Rumu11]

There’s a more accurate way to describe how costs work: anything before a ‘;’ is the cost and everything before a ‘:’ is the activation requirements.

[@McBobX]

16:40 It is not the only one, there is Shiranui Spectralsword who does the exact same thing for generic Zombies and doesn't negate effects. Used widely in Duel Links for months lol.

[@Freedomcobraclan]

Shiranui Spectralsword also allows Synchro Summoning from the graveyard.

[@rudyramadhana4127]

yes but not properly synchro summon it

[@ub_2001]

Just look at the duel links deck.Use it for Archifend Skull Zombie(who normally requires Plaguespreader Zombie as a tuner and 2 non tuners).Its effect bypass Synchros requirements.

[@ArnulfoSalgado]

@@rudyramadhana4127 ...yes, did you not watch the video? Vayu's summon doesn't count as a synchro summon either

[@jumpinjeff1709]

This is so fun to watch as someone who never played this game. I binged watched enough videos to figure out some rules, but this threw me for a loop

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

Problem Solving Card Text. Or PSCT to keep it short. If you want to learn how to read a card and apply it properly thats how. Its how a card is worded. Issue is most of the playerbase is ignorant of it sadly.

[@ultimatech_7514]

Well people already mentioned, probably mostly those who play Duel Links, but Shiranui Spectralsword apparently has the same effect as Vayu. That being said, I'll give a quick explanation to why I think Spectralsword's effect is *even more* complicated than Vayu. Vayu does that confusion but it only summons a Blackwing monster banishing itself (who is a blackwing monster) and another blackwing monster, so it still makes sense to summon a monster that requires blackwing monsters as materials. Now that's where Spectralsword proves it can get even worse: it just need to banish itself + another zombie monster to special summon a zombie synchro monster from the extra deck. This means you can fully ignore some conditions like Archfiend Zombie-Skull or Revived King Ha Des have (both require Plaguespreader as a material), as those are the requirements for a *Synchro* Summon, not a special summon from the extra deck which requires banishing specific monsters from the graveyard.

[@casmcrem310199]

"Vayu the embem of honor is the only card that can synchro summon from the graveyard" Shiranui spectralsword: am i a joke to you?

[@c.c.anubis]

Spectralsword special summons, not synchro summons. For example, you can use Spectralsword to summon Ha Des, even tho Ha Des requires Plaguespreader Zombie as the tuner for this summon. So while true that there are cards that special summon, Vayu is the only one that properly synchro summons.

[@KrisG415]

I was gonna say, spectralsword has the same exact effect, it just can't be used during the turn it was sent to the GY

[@c.c.anubis]

@@KrisG415 It's not the same. Spectralsword cheats the Synchro out, Vayu properly summons it.

[@albertofranceschini8960]

​@@c.c.anubis no it doesn't, they both cheat it out.

[@tcoren1]

Santiago C makes 18:06 pretty funny

[@Jacob-bp3su]

This video was super helpful as someone who is trying to get competitive! I knew a little bit about the more advanced stuff, but this is highly informative!

[@Pur3AGL]

You explained these effects very well. I'm impressed by how well you explained them.

[@loleo123]

The "Giving your opponent a monter" point... I remember that. Me and my friends faught about the rulings of that one Dark World card that special summons itself onto the opponents field after being discarded by an effect. Then it gains the effect that the "Opponent Discards 1 card of their choosing". Which means that I would discard any card. It got messy as all hell.

[@Prince_Eva_Huepow]

"When" seems to specify a time whereas "if" does not seem to and just needs to happen.

[@robrick9361]

Except that's not how the word is commonly used or understood. This whole nonsense could have been avoided with keywords.

[@Prince_Eva_Huepow]

@@robrick9361 Exactly

[@deamon6681]

Man, the remembering summoning conditions had me the first time when I had a Blue-Eyes Alternative Ultimate Dragon on the field, it got turned face down, and after flipping it the next turn, it could only destroy 1 instead of 3 cards with it's effect.

[@irunonwindows]

Shiranui Spectral Sword can also synchro summon in the GY. You can bring out Doom Kaiser Dragon without out plagespreader zombie. It’s also not consider a proper synchro summon.

[@LieseFury]

a lot of this sounds like a judge got paid off at one tournament to make a ruling that makes no sense, and then it stayed that way because of precedent.

[@natancypriano9912]

18:10 Doesn't Shiranui spectralsword also make the same type of special summon as Vayu?

[@LegendaryAntiHero]

Yes

[@skepticskeleton1064]

Genuinely thanks for the helpful explanations as I never quite understood the whole "miss timing" effect in particular as I always thought card effects would go of as long as their conditions were met.

[@akuma_tenshi6176]

Top ten worst "top ten" suggestions Expecting this one to be pretty high on that list

[@Adeios96]

I went searching on KZbin something along the lines of "why my Dark World monsters aren't activating their effects" glad so see an old video from duel logs was the first result. Even better that Dark World monsters is the first topic on his list, and even 2 years later he helped me understand the fine print hidden in these card effect descriptions, thanks DuelLogs.

[@JJSquirtle]

"Top 10 Most confusing mechanics" >Doesn't mention the Damage Step

[@WiF_Gaming]

Normally when i watch these videos i am Like “Oh, didn’t know that card, Nice!”... This video is different... i learn SO MUCH! And That’s not even cards i don’t know, i knew most of these, But i’ve only really played on Dueling Nexus in the last 5 years... and it is automated for turns, and on What you Can do at each step... so i didn’t know much of This... AWESOME Video!

[@Riccardo_Magliano]

I remember when I played Yu-Gi-Oh in the past I used to play Dark World with Dark Crusader and Raigeki Break thinking they could activate the effects of Dark World monsters. When someone told me about that rule you say in the video I stopped play Yu-Gi-Oh XD

[@TheMegajao]

17:05 i believe that Shiranui spectral sword have the same effect as Vayu

[@SamusDaHero]

Great video! Lots of little things you don't immediately pick up, but are super important to know, now all in one place. Good stuff.

[@kodytiffany5686]

Your number one is the easiest of them for me to keep straight. but my favorite was the Pole position example one. I like the idea that IF you could remember every card and their effects and interactions you COULD make a deck that has the WIN CONDITION of making your opponent deal with so many LOOP HOLES they rage quit the match 2 out of 3 times. The amount of effort required to pull off a deck like that would leave me more impressed then furious because it is so close to impossible to pull off. Having a board where its illegal for the opponent to alter the board but they could still observe all the mechanics needed to not have my stuff self destruct, to me would be the ultimate deck... I understand that its feasably impossible though.

[@TheOne-wq4sj]

Almost every entry in this video made me audibly say “that’s so stupid” even though I’ve played ygo casually for years 😂

[@miyu8823]

nice video, I had to learn this effects/situations by my own mistakes, it's nice to remember now the way I used to think and how the effects worked ; )

[@vincentwiliamphilips]

Great video. Plz also make: " top 10 mill deck cards"(either mill or draw cards opponent). :)

[@teddyhaines6613]

In before pre-errata Exchange of the Spirit is number one.

[@gran2247]

Would've been good to mention the old priority mechanics as an honorable mention. Like how you could use BLS' banish effect if it was bottomless trap hole'd but not if it was solemn'd.

[@hollowryder2732]

Missed timing and cards that don’t target are 2 of the dumbest rules lol. “I am selecting this thing to be the victim of an effect not targeting it.” And “we are the only card game in existence which could not figure out the concept of the stack.”

[@Raminator243]

Wouldn’t Shiranui spectralsword also be a “synchro summon from the graveyard”?

[@ArnulfoSalgado]

Yes, the Duel Logs didn't bother to do his proper research

[@vullord666]

Some Dude With A Bald Head *Makes a mistake like human being* -> *didn’t bother to do his research* Yeah, looking at the whole video I can tell he bothered to do a lot of research. He missed a fact. Doesn’t mean he didn’t even try.

[@silverbolt9439]

It seems Some people eat, sleep, and s*** Yu-Gi-Oh (gotta know every detail of the game and cards, pls go outside if you do lol) if you don't you're "not a real fan or well verse on it and didn't research". 🤣

[@LDIndustries]

This is why I play Magic, we have a word for times when effects don't take place because a condition couldn't be met but weren't negated. It's fizzle, the spell or effect fizzles when it's target disappears, it's target becomes invalid, the card's conditions can no longer be met (such as the Rage with Eyes of Blue not being able to take place if it went to the GY), or the game state changes before it resolves (such as a player dying).

[@trentonalbers3981]

Very interesting. All this time I thought there wasn’t a difference between “If” and “When” in a card text. My brain hurts.

[@maarufkhan3129]

lol thought you were DZEEF THIS HOLE TIME FOR SOME REASON

[@EnderPryde]

Regarding cost confusion... MTG has a phenomenal solution for solving the cost-effect division problem. Colons. If you look at Anje Falkenrath, it's clear that discarding is a part of the cost to activate the cards effect to draw a card because the cost is before the colon, while drawing is after. Meanwhile, Drowned Rusalka has both discarding a card and drawing a card both as the effect simply because both come after the cost (sacrificing a creature)

[@jracer876]

Numbers 1,2, and 3 use to be so confusing for me. Now I understand them better. Thanks for the video and clarification

[@thomasdemetz6145]

14:30 this summoning is the most confusing because there are so many different summoning restrictions. -> "can be ritual summoned with x Card" means it can be ritual summoned in other ways. And after being properly summoned it can be revived with Monster Reborn. -> "must first be special summoned with x Card" means there is no other option to summon to summon this card, unless you summon it properly. Afterwards you can revive it with Monster Reborn. -> must be special summoned with x card, and can not be special summoned IN OTHER WAYS". means you cannot revive with Monster Reborn, even if you successfully properly summoned the card! and some more wordings... And try to remember which card you summoned with which effect.

[@ego2133]

*Top 10 monsters that can have the highest ATK by their own effects* *Top 10 handtraps* *Top 10 Dark Magician cards* *Top 10 cards that were abused outside of their own archetype* Those would be fun to see, I think.

[@mfznal-hafidz8592]

1. Dark Rebellion XYZ Dragon, Heroic Champion - Excalibur, Vision HERO Trinity, Destiny HERO Dangerous, Maha Vailo, Elemental HERO Gaia, Elemental HERO Great Tornado, Elemental HERO Absolute Zero, Masked HERO Koga, Elemental HERO Shining Flare Wingman, Elemental HERO Air Neos, etc.

[@flatearth245]

most of that already been done. check his channel

[@thomash8513]

muhammad al hafidz umm no borrelsword no access code

[@rainbowskin3379]

Missing the timing has always felt to me such an arbitrary ruling. There's no mechanical reason why it should function this way, it just feels like they couldn't get some of the video games to resolve these card effects properly so they made it a ruling.

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

A good amount of things in Yugioh amount to "because Konami said so" at least they changed the infinite loop mechanic to destroy the card that is causing the loop after attempting to resolve the interactions x number of times.

[@ginger-ham4800]

Ancient Fairy Dragon's Field Spell Destruction making Geartown miss timing in it's "Special summon a Machine monster when this card is destroyed." took the winds right out of my sail back during the 5D's era

[@SuperSayianWarrior]

Only if you chose to add a field spell since “and if you do” is considered to happen simultaneously.

[@mozata6838]

I remember when I played Dragunity there was many an argument with my opponents over the difference between "equip it with" and "equip it to"

[@Edwardoloco500]

Next video top 10 stall cards

[@bcat010]

I have no idea how this game works but I enjoy watching these videos.

[@kafazyshorthop9909]

It's not just these cards, it's pretty much all of them. ;)

[@RiGeeZ]

So in other words: all continuous and field spells have inbuilt card mechanic which says: ”You have to control this face-up card in order to resolve its effect(s)”

[@Ramsey276one]

Hence CONTINUOUS Maybe it should be in the rulebook

[@Zoomy]

Thanks for uploading this, now I can just link people to this video if they ask why I stopped playing.

[@francescocrovocassinelli7691]

Congrats! This is the best video I have seen explaining concisely the most confusing aspects of the game

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

Just learn what Problem Solving Card Text is. Boom, 90% of ruling issues gone

[@Native2087]

“If” and “when” 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@wagezombie]

bro thank god someone else shares my opinion of dark worlds being hard to understand. never truly understood how to play them.

[@wagezombie]

i would just drop a macrocosmos or dimension fissure whenever i faced them

[@Sonic546416]

God how thankful I am for my 2D brain and Pokémon simplicity… The most confusing thing about Pokémon is why Arceus isn’t all types at once, these cards and card effects are insane!

[@GabyyRose]

One that I JUST discovered is the difference between effect activating on "Discard" and "Sent" : - If a card says : "If this card is sent [effect text]", then the effect activates whether or not you used a card that "Sent" or "Discarded" the card - BUT : if the card activates by being "Discarded", you can ONLY activate the effect if the card has been discarded, but not sent. Which means that cards like Dark World, Fable or Danger! won't activate if you use a card like "One for one" which sends "1 monster from you hand to the GY", even though you're technically discarding (because Hand->GY) since the card doesn't specificly says "Discard" you can't activate their effect. I got HELLA confused when trying to special summon Danger! monsters with "Lee the world Chalice Fairy" and was just seeing my plays falling apart x)

[@trisertricordoh2127]

You can special summon a monster that has to be summoned properly from the banished zone if it was correctly summoned first just because it moved to being banished doesn't mean it forgets that it was brought out correctly. You can DDR a Chaos Emperor Dragon after correctly summonibg it and it getting banished after it's effect goes off.

[@dexterion5940]

In number one,you could mention Ceruli,Guru of the Dark world,because his effect is also allow him to special summon on opponent side of the field.

[@TheSpicySimon]

1:55 It activates the effects of Dark World because it doesn't say "then" in it's card text, and simply continues on to the effect without any other kind of wording to imply that it happens afterwards 1:23 It activates the effects of Dark World because these two effects happens simutaneously; even though Card Destruction reads "Both players discard as many cards as possible from their hands, *then* each player draws the same number of cards they discarded." If it uses "then", how does it happen simutaneously?

[@Tamanegi]

The discard in Card destruction is not a cost but part of the effect. The "then" part is just used to separate the two effects so they don't activate simultaneously

[@esperaccelerator8404]

can't tell you how many times i had to explain mst to people on dueling network. so glad i move to "dawn of a new era" where the system tells them mst doesn't negate or cant take back an effect in play.

[@willianrodriguez6683]

"...This is why Konami has never printed another card that Synchro summons from the grave..." //Shiranui Spectralsword has entered the chat//

[@Vexy93]

Remember when rules were written on a 10 pages tiny book-like thing that was given with structure decks? Now you need a buchelore degree to understand how Darkworld monsters work

[@NexeL_NKC]

I was thinking of confusingly worded cards like Inspector Boarder. That guy’s text is a nightmare to figure out. Basically, his effect prevents the turn player from activating more effects than they have of a monster type. EG: if you have two ritual monsters, you can only activate two ritual monster effects, and so on for all main/extra monster types. I dare anyone who hasn’t read Inspector Boarder’s effect to read it and not have a short circuit.

[@chrayez]

The case of MST causing effects to not happen vs actual Negate effects sounds a lot like in MTG where a spell can “fizzle” if it’s not able to resolve, which is similar but distinct from the spell being Countered.

[@BondhanClanner]

IMO, This is best Videos for beginner from you. I know I cant say this, but, even I think this is break your "yugituber have done" videos, but this is good lesson for new player just like me and my community. Anyways, thank you. Vayu has 2 cases, kinda like "Neos Fusion" rule plus "Waking The Dragon". Its cheating ED monster just like Waking The Dragon so it doesnt count as Proper SS (not like Halqifibrax 2nd effect that count SS properly). Also it only need 2 cards just like Neos Fusion does, so just 1 tuner (Vayu self) plus just one non tuner. Mostly people confused about that, and not about "where SS takes places from", since lotta cards nowadays use material from GY (commonly Fusion) with GY effect, like Mixeroid

[@Luminousplayer]

another ruling i always struggle with is cards that say special summon X "ignoring its summoning conditions", which even though it says IGNORE THEM, still doesnt allow you to summon some monsters with summong restrictions.

[@wallisbudge4022]

YOU CAN NEGATE CONTINUOUS S/T AND FIELD SPELLS BY DESTROYING THEM??? This video opened my eyes, thank you.

[@an_oracle]

Vayu the Emblem of Honor isn't the only card that can synchro summon from the graveyard, there's a shiranui card that does the same. I was always so confused how in duel links using that card from the graveyard let them bring out zombie synchro monsters that needed plague spreader but that ruling explains it.

[@UltimateTomekHD]

Vayu isn't the only card which can synchro summon from the graveyard, necroid synchro can also do that

[@UltimateTomekHD]

Oh yeah and Gofu can synchro summon monsters in the GY by using monsters on the field as material