Top 10 Disappointing Games

[@MikeC310]

There’s no doubt DT has improved their overall quality but there’s something charming and nostalgic about the old environment in these older lists. Thanks to all of you guys. Now and then.

[@eddieb8054]

I love going back into the past with these.

[@JonReid01]

Tom needs to bring back the moustache!

[@Goron1988]

10) 2:32 9) 7:25 8) 12:22 7) 16:49 6) 22:10 5) 27:36 4) 34:20 3) 39:54 2) 46:28 1) 50:21

[@jaokolad]

at 35:00, instead of calling tom his game ninja nuns, I suggest he simply call it "nunjas".Your welcome, tom.

[@ramonosuke]

I think it would awesome to see an update to this list. Plenty of new disappointments have come out since this video was posted ;)

[@wroot_lt]

They actually just did the same list a few days ago (maybe they forgot the already did this). And surprisingly many games are still on the list :)

[@fredmethot6116]

I'd love it if you guys would put the top 10 list in the video description, with timestamps... would be pretty useful when looking for opinion on specific subjects !

[@teflonravager]

+Fred Methot They give complete lists at the end so you can find the segment you are looking for without too much trouble. Especially if the preview window at the bottom when you move the cursor along the timeline shows the numbers.

[@normnevins8067]

Thanks for this video guys, lots of great fun! After a bad couple of days this hit the spot!!

[@Awgez24]

Call of Duty Ghosts was my most dissapoint I was not scared once

[@Awgez24]

Also no spooky ghosts

[@spooked4lyfe]

3spooky5me

[@NickDavies75]

My favourite thing is seeing your reactions to eachother's selections. Tom; you are so diplomatic!

[@Tahlorn]

Completely disagree about Kingdom Builder. I am fine with the 1 card, it forces a different type of strategic thinking. The variety of goals and board combinations gives it a lot of replay value. It is a good non-direct competitive game for folks that don;t enjoy the "I screw you over" feel of other competitive games.

[@mgk2020]

@@victorikkykawahara7680 Well said.

[@Saygoodbyemrfish]

It's almost pointless to comment on something which has over 200 of them already, because no-one's going to read it (it's just too much). Anyway, I only wanted to say that I do love watching Miami Dice and these Top 10 videos, I think them three (Tom, Sam and Zee) work very well and make me laugh, I really appreciate that they do these recordings. Just for the topic, for me Agricola is a disappointment, it wasn't for me at all, so I'm with Zee on that one.

[@SamHealey6]

FYI...I, at least, do go back and read up on comments that I may or may not have missed. So, don't think that that posting is pointless.

[@GatsbyCioffi]

lol, I love how a fight breaks out every time someone says "Agricola".

[@Warlocke000]

Thing I was most surprised to see in this video: Big Red. Only soda that tastes like 'red.'

[@TyphoidBryan]

Eclipse is the number EIGHT game on Board Game Geek, yet Sam can't muster a single reason as to why he placed it atop his list.

[@MrRadialdrift]

Merchants and Marauders - To long and there is no point being a pirate if you want to win Lords of waterdeep - 2 hours of collecting cubes for no real reason

[@adampalesch4515]

I enjoyed this - sometime you really just need to vent... especially when you pay $100 for a game and... it.... just... sucks. I brought home Super Dungeon Explorer - heard nothing but praise and excitement, looks amazing, but what I got was a game that seriously needed 1) a rule book, 2) play testing, and 3) models that fit together properly. I don't know how so many people like this game. $100!!!! Stink! just sadness.

[@TheOriginalMomos]

Oh yeah! I was about to buy it until I saw what kind of game it was. Not really a bad one, but seems like the good side is a lot stronger that the bad guy.

[@RoseKindred]

There was a lot of hype on CMON (Cool mini or not) with that game, and I was interested in it. I felt it was a niche game for miniature gamers that want a OP anime style dungeon crawl. And the pieces could be used for other games (like familiars or weapon holders, etc). When compared to other miniature games (that require assembly and such) it is fair priced (which is a bad thing for the cost of other games)

[@TheOriginalMomos]

RoseKindred Agreed that for the price it's pretty nice, but the game seems unbalanced and that's sad.

[@olafbuddenberg4787]

Sam, you should try A TOUCH OF EVIL. Maybe Zee didn't have the right people playing that game with him 'cause it is not disappointing and actually better than Arkham Horror. My opinion.

[@larrywooters8635]

My vote for Worst/Disappointing games is "Are you the traitor?" from Looney Labs. What a waste of a game. You get your roles and then on your turn you look at someone and say "Are you the traitor?" Really? My next choice would be "Forbidden Island". I don't mind co-operative games. But, this game really doesn't need anyone else. Just play by yourself. I like a little bit of individual player thought.

[@ghostblainetcg]

I'm losing my cookies over saying "losing my cookies". That's hysterical!

[@Gamingnight]

betrayal at house on the hill reprint did fix things change the clips for the stats fixed the underground lake and has a couple new haunts. i was glad to get the game since the original was out of print.

[@cloud2018]

I love Touch of Evil. It is text heavy so that's fair but it does play out like a good story with friends and that's why I love it. It took what I liked about Arkham Horror and boiled it down into a more digestible time frame that I feel is less convoluted and plays smoother as a result.

[@armandolizarraga8981]

omg, Zee was awesome at 54:25, really good laugh!

[@GrandElemental]

Yeah, he has his Big Moment in many of these videos, and they never fail to crack me up! =D

[@SuperDachshund]

Heh. "I POWNED you!"

[@MikeYoungOnline]

These are great at an hour long. People who want summaries can go to your web site and see the printed lists.

[@Nubil8r]

When Tom does that movie presenter imitation, he nails it surprisingly that's the highlight of this video hilarious @ 56:45

[@chanm01]

Probably one of the funniest dicetower top 10 lists. Thanks guys!

[@TonyHulk]

Love how they say this game sucks! ...and link in video, you can pick it up here LOL

[@BodgeAttack]

I come back to this video at least once a year just to hear Zee talk about kingdom builder.🤣🤣🤣

[@duncanbradley5236]

Zombicide my friends and I find to be a lot of fun. There are game mechanics that as others have said can be tweaked to improve the overall enjoyment and "realism", but as a whole it is a solid co-op game that has tremendous punch IF you like the zombie survival genre. The game benefits tremendously for Prison Outbreak season 2 and the Toxic Mall expansion, plus if you add the zombie dogs that is a huge game changing dynamic. Overall for wow factor on the production, replay options customization and team fun in the face of the zombie apocalypse, it is a great game IMHO.

[@DriveThruReview]

Man... I was losing my cookies when Sam and Tom were talking about Battles of Westeros!

[@Twineandribbon]

A Touch of Evil is still one of my favorite games, but I see where you're coming from. For me it was like ... my second thematic board game I'd ever played and I've played it like a hundred times and loved it soooo much, because I didn't know any better. Having played like 6 years of games since then, I can see why it would be disappointing but you're completely right, the theme is really cool and that's why it sticks around for me as a favorite. I really think this is a game that deserves to be "killed" by another game. I WANT a colonial horror old style monster board game that is good. ARGh. I can have fun with A touch of evil only because I have played it enough I can look past its flaws to enjoy the good bits. I wish I didn't have to do that. I really enjoy Eclipse, but no one will play Twilight Imperium with me so I have nothing to compare it to.

[@Lugo428]

you know, I just now realized that is basically a scaled back Arkham Horror, but I think AH would be better all around.

[@rc7771]

The Pathfinder card game is probably the most disappointing one I've played in a long time. The group I played with loved it in the first scenario, but when we got to the second one, it just stopped being fun. The rules didn't read well, and the goals in that second scenario were just difficult to achieve.

[@GordonGaz]

Favorited part, normalising the fun in the room after opening the wrapping

[@amn1088]

Touch of Evil is a pretty cool game. However it always kinda falls flat after playing it a few times. I liked it for being a simpler Arkham Horror but with a competitive mode as well. However in the end competitive just ends with whoever got lucky card draw early flying through the game and dominating. Coop is just a snooze feast as you build up as long as you want to be unstoppable and just murder the boss. Expansions seemed to change it as far as difficulty, but the game already took up a lot of space needing even more was horrible and really increased difficulty really only extended game time and didn't increase the fun factor at all. In the end its a descent game when you don't know what all the good cards are. Once you do it is no longer exciting and just a battle of who can draw them faster and plow through everything.

[@jherrenor]

Top 10 Affordable Games. (like won't break your bank account) Top 10 Simple Games. (easy to learn but really fun. good without being brainless. no longwinded rules, no 50 bits of tokens, no dozen sets of items etc)

[@jenius00]

Lol Roll for lemons

[@Killer62Joe]

My number 1 disappointing game? Terraforming Mars :(

[@facepalmjesus1608]

my top most disappointing gave ever? RESISTANCE! most boring and simplistic game ever! i wonder if those people who praise Resistance they ever played Deception!!!!!!!!

[@tehrap6075]

When you were talking about Lock 'n' Load and how there were so many rules, I desperately wanted to ask if any of you have played 40K

[@jward1465]

I love Co-op games and IMO Zombicide is the best cooperative I have ever played. If you don't cooperate and work as a team you WILL lose. I understand that people have different tastes but Sam's reaction to Zombicide really baffles me.

[@DocHollidayGames]

Agricola was one of my favorite board games next to Puerto Rico :(

[@MrSlade2814]

My disappointing board game was cosmic encounters! I saw a lot of praise for it and it is great to have that many alien characters to chose from. Played it with my friends and it just bomb. Everyone was like "why did you buy this?" I was just crush and we tried a few times more but could not get into it.

[@jamesjester6027]

I agree completely about Cash N Guns: Live. Have tried running it multiple times, never really works out.

[@scottc8115]

Kingdom Builder is a lot more interesting if you play the variant where you control 2 colours and you score each separately. highest of the lowest scoring colour wins.

[@scotthix2926]

My worst was "Worst Case Scenario". i was thinking you were to get your character to escape these different situations and earn points to win. It is a learning/trivia game. If X (You get bitten by snake) happens to then you guess A. B. or C. actions to survive.

[@EyalItsik]

Pandemic is probably the biggest disappointment I've experienced. The game is just... not fun for me.

[@ironballistics]

Roll for lemons! Makes me think of what Cave Johnson said about lemons...

[@Attakijing]

I want to see a top 10 list of "games that I like and everyone else hates." I want to see what Zee and Sam's choices would be.

[@delphiote9652]

Betrayal did update the game with the reprint. The components were absolute garbage, but they added more scenarios and corrected a lot of the typos. Did I miss something?

[@mikloshollo7773]

Zee's performance at his number 1 is definitely one of his best in the show IMO. I rewatched it probably 100 times and still laughing every time. Good job, man! :)

[@TheBrokenMeeple]

Yes a Kingdom Builder hater at No 1 as well as Eclipse!! :D Yes, I agree with 99% of this list, well done guys . . . . . as for the 1% - I'm sorry but I'm an Agricola lover as well! :-)

[@FrankConradie]

This video ranks at around #3 in my most disappointing videos list.

[@christophersmith8316]

They already had a top 10 games you thought would be stupid but werent

[@jonow9861]

Its called Monsterpocalpyse by Privateer Press.

[@ryanmlozano]

Is it just especially nerdy if I consider it a score to neither own nor have played any of these disappointing games? :)

[@gaozhi2007]

TI3 is my favorite game. Eclipse is not TI3. It's still an amazing game, though.

[@conorleyden9201]

Is TI4 your favourite game now? Or still TI3?

[@gaozhi2007]

@@conorleyden9201 Still TI3. I have TI4 but I never even unboxed it lol. Not a fan of the new digital art, don't like the changes to the ship designs, don't like the design of the chips and tokens like the reserve fighters and soldiers chits. Mechanicswise, I haven't actually played it so I am not sure, but from what I could tell they only made minor tweaks.

[@ikesteroma]

My thoughts on Kingdom Builder: I read the intro to the game on BGG and thought to myself that it looks cool. I took time to read the rulebook and it didn't take me long to realize that the game is lame. I never bought a copy and Sam confirms that I made the right decision.

[@Pilotstu]

I loved Zee's rant about kingdom builder!!! I haven't laughed that hard in awhile! Hilarious!! :D

[@dmcd7619]

Pilotstu I loved that rant of his too. :) Zee's the best!

[@Rashman101]

Zee, You clearly played with the wrong group. Junta (classic from 1978) is amazing. Part of the game is getting into the roles and having fun. It doesn't take itself seriously. Respectfully, find some experienced players and give it another chance.

[@mphilpsychology9391]

Junta is awesome! Only problem is that you can never play it with the same group as people tend to take revenge a little too serious. :)

[@lexxtalionis]

List starts at 2:27

[@Tennethums1]

Carcassonne. Seriously, lay a tile, place a dude. How's that fun?

[@lonelongboarder27]

I realized it wasn't fun when I was excited about totaling up a scored meeple.

[@kau6912]

It's still a classic.

[@superchee2e]

Locked & loaded for Sam was exactly like galaxy trucker I just don't. Wanna. Try.

[@fiz52]

Oddly enough. Ninja the legend of the scorpion clan was almost universally trashed by us in play testing. We repeatedly told them the game was bad and had serious flaws. No matter what we did to try and tell them this game would not sell they just wouldn't listen.

[@urzathehappy72]

play testin sounds awesome even if the games bad at least u can tell em. thas wat happens wen they dont listen to play testsers

[@romanphoenix999]

I disagree on kingdom builder. I wasn't sold on it when seeing reviews, but decided to give it a go at a local gamestore. I was pleasantly surprised. The combination of special powers and objectives which all change with the setup and the variable board makes it a fine game for me. I like to find which combination of actions work best and do neat tactics.

[@adamheeley285]

That one is so hard to judge. I definitely wont buy it till i try it. It looks cool, but it may not be so good for casual players.

[@Dullsonic3]

my number 1: Yoshi's new island. stiff controls, ear rapeing music or bland music, poor level design, the effortless difficulty, the ultra cheap extra stages, reused story, insultingly easy bosses, and one of the worst final bosses i had ever faced!

[@GameToppers]

I just played Rum and Pirates. My buddy got it at Gen Con for 9 bucks the last day. We played a 5 player game and had a blast. Best 9 bucks I never spent.. But Zeeeeeeeee , Mov. It's awesome. Two versions, great pieces, you can even play solitaire . But number one most disappointing game Kingdom Builder. Okay it's not the worlds best, but its fun and easy to teach. Why all the hate Zee. Did this designer pee in your coffee? What is it Zee? Okay we feel better now. Great fun guys thanks!

[@WanderingKumquat]

Im not going to be mean about it, I like kingdom builder, thats it. Tom I

[@spiderfingers86]

A touch of evil is bad until you include the expansions. then it really gets good. you have to play coop and must include the expansions to enjoy it lol

[@JChalant]

I neither liked nor disliked this video. You guys are great, the list was 'meh' for me this time. Leaving a comment to support the show's advertising numbers!

[@dimazay4ik]

Kingdom Builder is the game we play the most. Great game, simple and genius, like Dominion.

[@grammyweiner]

Epic fart! @ 10:30 Great video. I was really dissappointed with Firefly.

[@TheGameLocker]

Best comedy moment from Tom Vasel, 33:35

[@lgoldberg88]

Sam's comment on Battle Cry... it's an amazing thing just to get a game like that reprinted "at all". I think his expectations were off. There was nothing wrong with Battle Cry to fix, as far as I know.

[@urzathehappy72]

he just wanted somethin extra

[@lecitadin69]

Are you guys the singers of the songs we hear over the coutndown numbers?

[@nathansurgenor]

Roll for lemons!

[@kadinfehr785]

Nathan Surgenor Time Stamp?

[@tomak213]

I totally diagree with Ninja, it is a really enjoyable game especially for 3-4 players, and it actually DOES have a lot on ninja in it

[@chrismusix5669]

I love Settlers of America. But if you were coming off of the Germany one, I can see how you'd be disappointed.

[@kevinsullivan3448]

Hey now, the 70's isn't that old...

[@rc7771]

I really enjoy the Haunting House, and so does my gaming group. I don't remember a random move, but perhaps I missed something.

[@spiraldaddy]

What about top ten sleeper hits - games that started with no buzz but just kept delivering good times and became something great.

[@JamesBarrett1981]

Zee was brilliant in this video! Loved it!

[@Ulfnarr]

ehi, but what's the one battle cry card tom vasel has a problem with? i hope someone can answer me, if it's not too controversial a subject.

[@tomvg87]

I want to play a game with deflating Zee now! Ow... ow.... ow....

[@JayChampagne]

I don't know that EVERY game by Donald X. Vaccarino after Dominion is underwhelming. I thought Infiltration was pretty good, and I've heard good things about Gauntlet of Fools. Maybe they're no Dominion, but Dominion is one of the greatest games ever made. It's not like Michelangelo had to live the rest of his life hearing "It's no Sistene Chapel". There's only a handful of designers that can hit it out of the park every time, and they never did anything close to as popular as Dominion.

[@jemwilli]

I am probably in the minority, but I totally hated Android Netrunner. It's way too into it's own theme and just doesn't play easily for two players new to the game. After my first play through I had no desire to replay it, let alone do any of the in depth deck building. What made it worse was I picked up an expansion when I got the game. I regret this game purchase more than any other in the past year.

[@Sweetestsadist]

Disappointing games for me: Tannhauser - Great theme. Bland design with convoluted math on checks. Small World Underground - Tried to fix what isn't broken. Unbalanced abilities. They did correct the "Sorcerer" ability to it's proper tribe, vampires (vampiric) Munchkin Quest - Yes, I like Munchkin. It's a good filler for light play moments. Munchkin Quest takes away that lightness. Everything added to the game highlights the flaws of Munchkin. DC Deckbuilding - If you like this; you're wrong.

[@dbadilotti]

Tom "The Cheese" Vasel. It's a nickname, which is half of a cool nickname. Sorry Tom.

[@thomasrobb9278]

I enjoy your videos and like the humor I am always amazed, however, at how you verbalize about the games. "They are boring" "It was fun" "What a snoozer" So you huys have played hundreds of games, with hundreds of mechanics and the best in depth comments you can make is "It was boring" "It was fun" ????????

[@edmundbloxam2714]

Even funnier than the convention one. Not even caring about the games really now, just th4e interactions. Go back to this style!

[@TurajZaim]

You guys are so %$&*ing funny, I swear. I just swore. And you're not even trying to be funny-you're just being yourselves, and that makes it so much funnier. I love it, love it, love it when you three get together. I actually save them for when I'm down or bored and need a pick me up, and then I think, hey, I can watch Grumpy, Manic, and Tom! Love it.

[@PiiSmith]

Zee, I am sorry, but Junta is a good game. Sure it has problems like some older games like Civilization, Republic of Rome... or I dare say Cosmic Encounter (Tom look in another direction please!), but it is fun negotiation, back stabbing game with a small wargame thrown in there.

[@WanderingKumquat]

ZOMBICIDE IS BEAUTIFUL

[@pm71241]

Yep... Junta is not about being a real game. It's about having fun. Sorry nobody told you :)

[@michaelhastriter3299]

needs to be done again 2021

[@wr41thx29]

My number 1: Tomb: Cryptmaster. awesome ideas...horrible rules

[@GrandElemental]

Wr41thx Oh yes! Horrible, horrible rules, the worst rulebook I've ever read in my life! And the game is random and as unbalanced as it gets. There are monsters that pretty much instantly kill your whole party and you pretty much get them randomly. But... there is still something that keeps me both owning it and regularly playing it. It just so... hilariously broken that it never fails to entertain my gaming group. I don't know what it is, but for some reason, with these particular people, I just get the kick out of it. =D Not going to present it to newcomers, probably ever, but it does have some personal value to me.

[@JayChampagne]

I'm inclined to agree about Lost Cities being disappointing. The game gets so much hype, but there's so little there. It's an abstract game about counting that tries to trick you into thinking it's about exploration and adventuring with its title.

[@temporaryscars]

Tom. TOM. TOM!!! Forget what these guys think about Agricola. It's a great game. Half the time when they describe the rules, they have them completely wrong.

[@TyphoidBryan]

Rum and Pirates would only be a disappointment NOW considering everything Feld has released since then. In fact, it is idiotic to say a game is a disappointment when building up your hopes for it based upon theme.

[@williamschneider690]

I'm a guy originally from an agriculture community with farming/ranching background. I also like Coke-Cola. Now when I see the game Agricola, I see Agri (as in agriculture) and cola (as in the aforementioned soda). Why do you and others pronounce it so oddly as "Ah grick ah la?" Just curious.

[@blarneystone38]

It's a Latin word meaning farmer, that's how it is pronounced in Latin

[@crushingbelial]

Rum and pirates. absolutely terrible game. I wish he would Alan Smithee that one.

[@We3Kangs]

Kingdom Builder was a huge disappointment, but I really LOVE Settlers of America.