Top 10 Frustrating Issues With Folding Knives 2020

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[@mario___1826]

The number one frustrating thing to me is when I hear someone going on and on about high end blade steel, great ergonomics, and fit and finish. Then when it comes time to actually cut something they use a five dollar Walmart knife. 😆😆

[@J-Bibble]

Ooohhh...MC burn ;)

[@chrishinkle5982]

Everybody has knives they use and knives they don't right?😄

[@MayhemMechanic]

Well duh that's why you carry two knives lol

[@itsaknifestyle8482]

Well I mean he talks about how he carries the para 3 and the off grid scorpion a lot. I think MC was just trying to say that he beats that knife up, so he would expect an off center blade.

[@joeallen2354]

@@chrishinkle5982 heretic

[@sgthuy]

Daily knife content is beautiful. It's relieving therapeutic to come home from class do a pocket dump and then fidget with my favorite knife while watching your videos. It sort of gives me affirmation that I'm not the only one that has a strange affection for knives. Stay awesome

[@metal_complex]

😁🤝

[@MayhemMechanic]

And it gives me something to watch at work 😁

[@robertrosen7071]

You ain’t the only one

[@tonyhoodlass1846]

Im English i like mine knives a lot

[@LarryEMorse]

Pet peeve #11, screws holding deep carry pocket clips with rounded heads that prevent deep carry!!

[@skycorrigan6511]

I thought for sure this'd be on his list. Good call out.

[@patrickz2565]

Amen!

[@Mridgwell]

Next video should be phrases a knife guy should never say #1 pet peeve, #2 so cute , #3......

[@MrLlama999]

I like the negative videos. The market is so crowded that bad knives should be a thing of the past. Ciivvivi and CJRB have clips figured out. It’s a cheap proven design.

[@chuckgilley9608]

If knife company's would send extra screws that would cut out tons of warranty calls and emails.

[@tyreldalzell1489]

And clips to if your like me working in a work shop rubbing up against stuff I burn thru clips on knifes that's why I like cold steel they send a extra clip with there knifes

[@waynechildress6232]

And if car manufacturer's would include a couple of spare engines.... The cost of adding a couple extra screws is not just the cost of the screws. It's also having to store them, package them and get them in the box. Multiple the cost by thousands of knives.

[@metal_complex]

Well... lots of OEMs actually do this. I'm sure it adds cost, but not as much as you think.

[@Lemonhoko]

Yep, extra screws is a must...any company that consistantly does this will be a winner.

[@Lemonhoko]

Not sure if you were talking about benchmade when talking about warranty issues..I recently had the spring break from my mini grip...I tried to take it apart to replace the spring, but one of the T-6 body screws stripped out..I just bagged it up and sent it in...got an email from Benchmade to contact them concerning this...they warned me that my warranty could have been voided because I got into the knife...I told them I didnt know this and they wanted to charge me 20 dollars to resemble 3 body screws...after laughing at them and explaining how rediculious that was,..they waived the charge, put in a new spring and sent the knife back in perfect condition....just was wondering if benchmade was who you were talking about in that part of the video?

[@Mridgwell]

The idea that this is a negative review actually points out that this is an incredible time to be into knives . Positive or negative the choices and options good or bad are endless from budget to high end it's incredible . Good stuff MC

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

My biggest pet peeve, meaning the one I encountered the most, is a detent that is not dialed in correctly. The is no reason at all that a knife costing more than $20 should have a poor detent.

[@mikereviews596]

Abby Normal I completely agree! Whatever the action is, (thumbstud, flipper, whatever) the firing has to be good.

[@chefboiarby304]

Someone at the Spyderco Tai Chung factory just spit out their coffee.

[@dylanmichael3985]

@@chefboiarby304 EVERY tai chung spyderco ive had has had a laughably terrible detent, it almost made me stop buying spyderco. Every one I could easily shake open with barely any effort and each one also had terrible detent lash. If you have to buy a tai chung spyderco, buy a lockback.. Theres no detent, the tension of the lockback bar is what keeps the blade closed. I figured that out with the chaparral.

[@chefboiarby304]

@@dylanmichael3985 Are the Golden factory ones better with the detent? I hate it when the detent is so weak that the blade shakes out easily.

[@dylanmichael3985]

@@chefboiarby304 I'm my experience and from what I've read in various forums and have heard in many youtube videos, Yes much better. You'll read in forums and hear many say that the tai ching factory is doing spydercos best work, but in my experience some of the worst knives I've ever recieved have been tai chung spydercos ( sage 5 LW, Spydiechef, Caribbean, amd a few others I cant remember on the spot). I would try a Golden Colorado one, they make many great models. If you get a lemon, that's really unfortunate and in my experience an anomaly but it can happen, from any brand, id return it and give it one more try. I think you'll be very satisfied. And hey, you're also supporting U.S. labor if you are from American and value that. Best of luck to you. Take care. And as W.R. Case and Sons say, "Keep your hands sharp".

[@dannyt6798]

7:20 wonky edge grinds.. I recently bought a Cold Steel AD10 that I adored except for the fact that the knife came with grinds that were a bit off. Top view showed that the swedge was lengthier on one side over the other. At $145, I feel the thing should have been symmetrical.

[@joeallen2354]

I only own 4 cold steel knives. 3 of them came with unacceptable problems.

[@reeverfalls2069]

I’ve bought and used over 5-6 cold steel knives and almost every single one of them had some really bad problems with them. Except ironically enough, the Espada XL which is bought as a joke. But that knife is just so big and tanky it’ll literally TANK any freakin defects it has....so I guess that’s one knife they got going for them.

[@1701spacecadet]

Unfortunately it's the same with mid-range watches. Manufacturers know they have the cachè that will keep their fans buying, and so skimp on the QC. Budget brands know they need to keep the quality up to get sales, and high-ends know they will get torn a new one if they put out a bag of crap.

[@itsaknifestyle8482]

My main takeaway from this is that I’m buying that Ozark Trail Knife! Great Video

[@KosmicHRTRacingTeam]

YES!!! these are all things that I have had issues with as well. A little background. I have never been really a "knife guy". Last year I was purchasing several tools at local hardware stores and ended up buying some fairly decent looking Gerber knives that you would get for like $15 for 2 knives and a few Crown branded knives for really cheap as well. A few months ago I started to think I should carry a knife at all times, so I started to watch many videos and doing research. I ended up buying 2 Honey badger knives based on a nutnfancy video ($30-35 each). They were light weight, used g10 handles, extremely smooth and easy deployment, perfect centering (downfall being that they are made in China and use 8cr13mov). I then saw a Smith and Wesson (around a $20 knife) that I ended up buying thinking it would be a decent knife, based on the name. Boy was I wrong, mine is a different model, but just like yours, it has a flipper tab and a thumb tab, BUT the thing just can't be flicked open, even with a little lube (im the same, I don't feel like I should have to take the dang thing apart and spend 30 min cleaning and lubing). Almost felt like this is now a throw away knife. Then I hear good things about Ganzo (this is before I knew there is a lot of hate regarding Ganzo, due to them copying iconic designs). ALL of them are $20-25 (I think I bought 4). All of them deploy very smoothly, extremely well centered, good locking and detents, AND they all either have 440c or D2 steel blades. Basically, better blades and as good of better in the deployment, smoothness and 50% less money VS the honey badgers. I then want to get into some more of a higher end knives so I buy the Spyderco Delica and Para 2 since they both get such rave reviews. Part of this is my fault, because I HATE the deployment on the Delica, being that it is a spine lock. What a pain in the butt. I am sure it has its place, I just am not sure what the point of it is yet. The other thing is, it basically uses crap plastic for the handle (not even g10 or carbon fiber). On the PM2, the center isn't great, it has taken a long time to break both of these in, break in, lube, practice, etc... Now the PM2, I can flick open with some decent wrist involvement, but it is not using bearings, so it still isn't close to my ultra cheap Ganzos or Honey Badgers. I really like the feel of it in my hand when using it, but other than that, it has been a disappointment. To add to that, both of the Sypyderco knives do NOT come with deep carry clips (all my Ganzos and Honey Badgers did) and yes, I know I can spend another $25-35 for a deep carry clip, but I really would rather spend my money on another Ganzo or Kershaw (more on this below). So I paid a lot more money for a "high end knife" or 2, and yes, I got better steel, but the overall experience has been disappointing. I then wanted to spend less but go with a "better brand" of knife, but get similar performance as the Ganzos, so I bought a couple Kershaws. Along with the Ganzos, these are my favorite knives, great centering, super smooth deployment/bearings, good locking mechanism, and deep pocket clips. These are $20-30 knives, the only downfall vs the Ganzos is that they use 8cr13mov steel. So in a weird way, I kind of feel like the Ganzos are the best for the money, the kershaw (chinese) are second best, the Honey Badger 3rd best, the Syderco are coolest to carry when I am around true knife fanatics who know, and the smith and wesson is almost money down the drain. And wow, that was much longer than I expected to type.

[@thertis580]

Bang good. Really good.

[@darthvaper6745]

My pet peeves 1) blade bill boarding 2) handles that have sharp edges 3) assisted opening knives 4) nail-niks, 5) mystery steels 6) seat belt cutters on knives 7) glass breakers on knives 8) knives that arrive not sharp 9) sloppy fit and finish 10) over pricing because of brand name.

[@thertis580]

You've nailed it.

[@oxyrisin]

Totally agree w all these points. As an aside, I’ve had more issues w higher end/custom knifes then ‘I’ve ever experienced w inexpensive, production models. .

[@evanacey1414]

Wait... Are you serious?!?!? You’ve actually purchased legit “full custom” knives that have had more fit and finish issues than most mass produced budget tier production knives you’ve owned? If that is really what you are claiming, I have a couple of questions for you: 1). Were these custom knives purchased in new condition? 2). a). Who were these custom makers? b). How much did you pay for their knives? I

[@FLHamExtra]

This is a couple years old, but it answered several questions I had about the way you review knives, thanks!

[@bigB6flyer]

MC: “This is 2020, things are better, things are different.” Covid: “Hold my beer.”

[@jdbeckett6302]

I rarely ever comment but I have to say this video was refreshing for being 99% positive you can rant with the best of em bro that should be your new channel or at least a series frustrating fridays just get all the b.s. of your chest

[@metal_complex]

🤣🤟⚔🤝

[@jstnhnt28]

Why are Torx screws the default knife hardware? When I used to build cabinets, we used square drivers

[@jimmystyles670]

I have had far too many torx screws strip out my bits, especially the smaller ones. A simple allen key or square driver would be perfect. If I remember correctly the crkt m16 line uses a flathead that can be adjusted with a coin. The only thing that is worse, is when one side has a Torx bit, and the other is not actually captured. So it spins on both sides as you try to tighten your knife.

[@DevinBauer]

They can be cut shallow or offer excellent torque . They are vastly superior to phillips. I can't speak for international but at least here in the USA square is rather uncommon and has worse torque than a torx. The trick with Torx of course is you need to use good quality drivers

[@DevinBauer]

@@dylanmichael3985 Phillips are literally designed to cam out which results in damage or stripping of the fastener head. Torx provide better torque transmission with less wear on the fasteners, a nice consideration on an expensive tool that is taken apart and cleaned. Where torx is a problem is when the designers of the fastener in question design a shallower head than they should, you loose the torque benefit and increase the likelihood of damaging the fastener, at which point you'd be just as well off with a cheaper phillips fastener

[@chrishinkle5982]

I agree 100 percent !! The biggest one that bothers me the most is being told I can't get into my knife or it voids warranty I think this is bull once I've paid the money to BUY the knife should mean it's mine to blow up if I want. I don't expect the warranty to cover that but still. Thanks for sharing MC great. Video

[@mrmaxx4400]

My wife just passed by your assessment of T-6 screws and said that I sounded like you, except that you're more polite. I feel less alone. Thanks.

[@SerpentLord]

S&W pistols? Love 'em. S&W knives? Junk. I want to think they have nothing in 'em so whatever they make on them is pure profit. Centering? I'm with you on that totally. On those shitty knives that have that problem, I've found that if you rotate both sides of the pivot adjustment hardware you can get them more in line...sometimes(talkin' to you Gerber!).

[@manifestgtr]

M&P pistols? Potentially life-saving M&P knives? 💀

[@dylanmichael3985]

ALL pivots should be captive, I shouldn't need 2 sets of torx bits, 2 drivers and trying to figue out how the hell I'm going to hold one driver and the knife while tightening the pivot.. to tighten my pivot.

[@SerpentLord]

@@dylanmichael3985 Well, that's why they're cheaper. Cheaper because tolerances are loose...things aren't perfectly round, softer steel, etc.

[@dylanmichael3985]

@@SerpentLordYes, I know that. You're not understanding the point of my comment. You said that if you rotated both sides of the pivot assembly you would be able to center the blade, my comment was stating that you shouldn't be able to rotate both sides of the pivot assemble because one side should be captive. All pivot assemblies should be captive on one side. Thats how its properly done. I shouldnt need 2 sets of torx drivers to adjust my pivot or put the knife back together, and when one isn't captive the pivot never tightens properly and it can work itself out of adjustment.

[@SerpentLord]

@@dylanmichael3985 This was a year ago! We're talking about S&W knives. You're lucky if the damned things even have a pivot.

[@PrivateEyeYiYi]

I just dumped the Spyderco in my cart and bought an Ozark Trail. Thanks for the timely advice!

[@chefboiarby304]

A few pet peeves of mine: *teflon or plastic washers when unnecessary on a knife above $20 (not including washers that are actually just a raised circular section of the handle) *asymmetrical edges that interfere with sharpening (I use a Lansky Turnbox with fixed angle 20 and 25 degree bevels and I hate it when only one of the sides will actually sharpen up due an asymmetry) *blade play of any kind (does not include blades that move due to the handle itself flexing or the CRKT Tailbone) *too weak or way too strong detent (no stronger than a Kershaw Fraxion and no weaker than an Ozark Trail) *excessive lock stick or tension (I should not need a prybar in order to close my knife Gerber) *free spinning pivots and/or excessive use of loctite/too strong of loctite *liner or framelock knives that have no safe space for the thumb (edge comes too close to thumb immediately after unlocking) *thumbstuds that are big enough and placed inconveniently enough to interfere with sharpening *soft/strip prone hardware *satin shallow carry clips that make a knife really obvious (deep carry or non-satin/not flashy clips are good to go) *ineffective or nonexistent jimping

[@randyf.9188]

Valid points. Manufacturers are aware of growing competition, which has led to better quality control for most.

[@efcruzado]

I recently purchased the Steel Will Screamer. I noticed right away it has detent lash. After watching your video, I realized it had 2 more of your issues. It has double clutch and T6 body screws. I’ll probably return it because the dealer I got it from offers free returns. Thanks for the great content. 👍🏽🔪

[@bobbyhightower2380]

Tbh I’m okay with sacrificing blade centering for a better action

[@TribalPolitics]

Loved that quick intro.

[@metal_complex]

I'm glad!

[@edcevo3052]

We is amazing! My favorite knife as of right now is the malice! I love everything about it. The weight, fit and finish, blade blade steel all materials, detent is perfect, action is perfect, blade centering perfect. The knife is perfect for me all around perfect.

[@kczcb4697]

Just ordered a Kershaw bare knuckle 20 cv. Been looking at them for a bit. After watching your sale regrets post I pulled the trigger on it. Thanks for the great content

[@chrisjaskulski8613]

The MC war on t6 screws is legendary... pure and genuine hatred.

[@ogenmatic]

I’ve never minded T6 screws. I use good quality drivers and replace the tool when (not ‘if’) it wears. I also use an adjustable torque limiting screwdriver when reassembling and use industry specs to avoid over tightening. Usually about 3.5 inch pounds for a 2-56 screw for example.

[@ogblitzo628]

Definitely agree with most of these complaints, I dislike knives not coming with deep carry pocket clips as default, looking at you spyderco! I love the lynch clip but at the price point I shouldn't need to dump another 20$ into a clip for something like a PM2 or Yojimbo.

[@TheBigToe69]

It’s ok to prefer a deep carry but some people don’t care. You’re talking about a 1/3 of an inch most the time if not less.

[@PockeTanK]

Intro was good quick and straight to the point 💪🏽👍🏽.

[@hityoutwo]

Agreed on all counts. I'd also add, knives that come pre-scratched from the factory. I've just about given up on higher end production knives. I've had too many issues come with them, that would be a lot easier to accept on a budget blade. My last purchase, the M4 DLC Shaman came with an inch long scratch on the blade along with a few other issues that made me feel ripped off for the price I paid.

[@mickkeim4142]

You have got them pinned. I think you nailed the stuff that annoys us all. Good job. I hate it when I get a knife that is covered with oil. I mean...why?

[@PoetFisherman]

My issues with too many modern prod knives, in no particular order: Lock stick, no detent ball ramp, poor blade centering or grind that makes the blade look off center, lanyard holes that require handle extension if there's already a four finger grip. That's more of a design choice, I know, but still.

[@kerrykitterman4602]

Yeah we expect a detent ramp .on our knives. Kerry

[@spike4628]

I really enjoyed this video. I agree with you - a expensive knife from a reputable company should not void our warranty because it needs cleaning and we are perfectly capable of performing this maintenance ourselves. Kershaw is an excellent example of a company encouraging this by making spare parts so easy and free to get. On the other hand we know the company beginning with S that discourages this any way they can. I'm not mailing my knife at my expense so it can be cleaned. That's half (maybe more) the fun of having knives. I bought an Rat 2 D2 that still can't be centered and opened. I sent it back after they worked on it after they sent me new washers and I think a pivot screw set. I could go on but won't. I enjoy your videos and am subscribed fully.

[@Thomamps]

I have a liner lock with the double clutch option, it's a 20 year old budget knife. If you hate T6 just wait until you get one with T7. I have the tool for the OTF screws, it came in a phone repair kit.

[@blwngt1598]

Along the lines of detent lash/hole placement, a pet peeve of mine is not placing the detent hole at the very end of detent's track. At best it's an annoyance. At worst it can be dangerous with a sharp blade tip sticking out while lying in wait to ambush an unsuspecting hand!

[@rickkerans8485]

There are other things but I totally agree with the ones you listed. Another is unfinished edges. Where there are sharp spots on the liners or the scales.A sharp point when open where the flipper and frame meet or frame lock. Another thing is an over tightened pivot or excessive thread locker. If I feel I am going to ruin the screw and they didn't send a replacement screw or screws back it goes. The little sharp spots are annoying and can usually be fixed with Emery cloth. The thing is I shouldn't have to do anything to fix a knife I spent money on. I hate opening a knife to find out I have to fix something for it to work or feel right. I have usually been eager to get the knife then it has something sharp or stuck or too loose that I then have to wait even longer to fix it to use it. AAAARRRRGGGG. Great video I really liked hearing someone else find these kinds of things maddening and worthy of returning the knife. Thank you.

[@LarryEMorse]

Rick Kerans, that's the down side internet shopping. Sadly good brick & mortar cutlery shops where you can handle what you want are few and far between.

[@rickkerans8485]

@@LarryEMorse I agree completely. Had one I used to pass going through Michigan but it closed years ago.

[@dtpfeiffer]

I totally agree about all the hardware stuff you mentioned. Another is companies not sending out replacement parts, such as omega springs. My biggest frustration though is non reversible clips. It's not that hard to design a knife with a reversible clip AND it can even be done with no extra holes or goofy filler plates by mounting it to the end of the handle.

[@jeremycrowe234]

I agree!!! Off center blades drives me nuts and yes extra hardware would cost nothing and save so much time on both ends.

[@dylanmichael3985]

Here are a few of my pet peeves: 1. No sharpening choil.. Cough cough spyderco 2. Non recessed pocket clips and proud pocket clip screws 3. Pocket clips that are too stiff or too weak, especially when they're specific to that model of knife and can't be easily taken off, re-bent and put back on. 3. Blades that dont utilize the full length of the handle when closed, thanks for giving me less cutting than we know you could have. 4. Plunge grinds that make fixed angle sharpening impossible to sharpen the edge without ruining the look of your blade. 5. Oddly placed thumb studs and thumb holes, I shouldn't have to play ergonomic gymnastics to open my knife. 6. I could keep going but it would only make me frustrated and sad.

[@GOxHAM]

What's your opinion on lock rock for a traditional back lock knife using pins and not screws? Is it still unacceptable? THANKS METAL COMPLEX!!!

[@TrueCarpenter]

As someone JUST entering as a knife "enthusiast", my biggest issue is the lack of variability in design (color, how it opens/locks, blade quality). for example, i decided to go with spyderco tenacious, it has 8Cr13MoV steel, which is perfectly fine for me, and this knife is in my price range. But I didnt want the closing action (to close i have to put my thumb in line of the blade) whatever you call that. So to get the closing function that is operated at the spine is double the price opting for para 3 lightweight. or triple the price for a para 2 or 3.. I mean, it is what it is, but I love the look and feel of my sypderco. but I dont make huge money, so my next knife isnt going to be another spyderco. Dissapointing, but i guess im not the customer they are looking for?

[@TheBigToe69]

You obviously don’t know what it takes to produce cost wise the compression lock and higher quality steel knives. The tenacious is a liner lock which is a fairly common style lock capable of one hand operation. If you want a cheap knife with as you say your fingers out of the way style lock, you need to buy a back lock knife. You then lose the majority of one hand operations with it. I’m not criticizing what you can afford but don’t criticize Spyderco on their costs just because you can’t afford the higher quality knives. I don’t criticize Chris Reeves Knives just because I can’t afford their 450$ Sebenza or Inkosi knives, even though they are just titanium frame lock knives and S35vn steel blades.

[@YosefArteaga]

I agree with you. I'm more of a fixed blade guy, but I still have have a couple of folders, and I had lots of folders in the past, but some got sold only because they were of center.

[@andrewtoole1222]

Loving the quick intro. Would be cool if you added a graphic intro clip with your logo and sound effects in between the plug and the start of the actual content. Keep up the good work brother! 👊⚔️👊

[@metal_complex]

That's a good idea! I'll look into it!

[@mmorgado1]

Spot On! You touched all the right points! Couldn’t agree more. The proprietary hardware is one of the most annoying things in the present. 🙂👊

[@Bald_Head89]

I spent hours trying to get the stop pin on my replacement for my lost Cold Steel Broken Skull in CTS XHP to stop ratting and I finally did it after about 3 or 4 hours...needless to say I'm never taking it apart again I'll oil it and sharpen it. But that's it I gotit to where I can fire it out without having to ride the thumbstud to the lock. You are totally correct rattling hardware is inexcusable on a $140 knife....granted I only paid I think $60 for it on amazon a year or so ago. But MSRP is about $140ish. It's just inexcusable. But as with my old Broken Skull in CTS XHP, it's my EDC an hasn't left my pocket since I bought it...well atleast not for that long. I did buy a Gerber Empower that I'm planning on sending in for warranty work as the blade doesnt fire reliably but it left my pocket quickly and i went back to my Broken Skull 😂!

[@kalijasin]

Biggest issue for me is side to side play and rocking. I can use the knife even if it is dull but not if it is doing all that. The blade needs to be fixed and solid. Especially if it is a tactical or self-defense knife.

[@TheSpectre12]

The spare hardware gripe is my main one. I've had screws either strip out or fall out from USA makers. My first good knife, a Griptilian, had a body screw fall out a week after I got it.

[@tallica4life81]

Jason Bursach I have a 4 day old zero tolerance that has stuck pocket clip screws. I destroyed two brand new T6 bits. Same knife had zero lock tight on the pivot screw and after 15-30 flicks it got so loose the blade came off center enough to hit the inside of the scale when I closed it. That’s how I found out that it came loose.

[@Intertracer]

Regarding screws & bolts - it's not so much torx (t6, t8) which is the problem (they take bigger torque than any), but non-standard head sizes. IMHO, Allen (hex) socket causes more problems in this respect. And yes it's a pain getting these outside of US, had to resort to an ugly replacement on my old CRKT :(

[@davefaller1907]

I was surprised there wasn't more talk about pocket clips. Why can a knife come in lots of different colors or scale materials, but you can't order a left or right-handed knife without holes and welts all over the place "just in case you want to change it"? There are so many really nice looking designs out there that are compromised by a big ol' bump with holes in it for alternate clip mounting. Then there's clip location, deep carry, recessed screws, etc. Lots to discuss on that subject alone.

[@abc456f]

My Shaman is slightly off center but not touching the scale, drops shut freely, no blade play, so I'm willing to live with it. Native Chief has uneven grind at the tip. Hold it up against a white background and you can see it. Sage 5 won't drop freely no matter how much I mess with it. Well it will drop free if I introduce blade play. So that's Spyderco's qc. Now on to Benchmade. Some of them drop nice and smooth, others require a pretty forceful shake. Some have sticky axis locks. I've sent in a few for warranty work and they've come back pretty much the same. Next, ZT. After I saw Nero's video on slipping locks, I went and checked my nine zt's. Six of them failed a spine tap. Literally a tap. To their credit I guess, after sending them in, they came back corrected. For me it boils down to consistancy. Get it right, out of the box, every time.

[@spartan8390]

For those who think negative about this video: This video is about standards. We all have standards; some less strict than others. Edge grinds are a standard I am on board with. The other standard I have an issue with is guided sharpeners that mark up your knife. We have a lack of industry standards across the board.

[@holdernewtshesrearin5471]

Amen on spare screws! I have dozens of knives with at least 1 stripped T-6 screw! And while we’re at it, BAN T-6 screws!!!! There’s NO excuse for them! Nothing less than a T-8 should EVER be used in the knife industry!

[@YerZippersDown]

My Dad calls me a "prissy pants" for having the exact same pet peeves as you do when it comes to knives. He just doesn't get it. 😂

[@knivesinedc]

I freely voice this opinion and this is aimed squarely at Emerson knives. Chisel grinds are not useful for 99% of edc tasks and most of us aren't using our knives to scrape barnacles off of ship hulls. I get where Ernest is coming from and I respect the man and how much success and respect hes garnered for his brand. However, chisel grinds really lessen the edge holding ability and can make cuts go wonky on you depending on the material being cut. Chisel grinds really don't have a place in EDC/tactical knives IMO, especially when they cost $200+. My full size Jungle Commander was one of my favorite overall knife designs, but I got rid of it due to its total lack of edge holding ability. I mean one cut through cardboard and the edge was essentially dulled to uselessness. This may have been a combo of the chisel grind and the 154cm which, in my experience, has not historically received the best heat treat. Just my 2 cents on that specific topic though.

[@daveyboy6985]

I agree 100% on knives having perfect edge grinds, and beveled to at least 20 degrees on both sides. I mean that's the most important aspect of a knife , that it should cut bloody well. And it should be like that when you buy it . (FROM Dave )

[@Clambelly]

Poorly designed pocket clips that cannot be adjusted. Example: Kershaw Freefall assisted opening. Decent for the money, but the pocket clip is way too tight, and just as you have warned T-6 adjustment screw cannot be backed out or loosened. I have no reason to take knives apart. However, I completely agree that the screws should be big enough to allow the option.

[@JJJinks]

I've thought about buying T6 bits in bulk, I've stripped out so many of those

[@jbeers1234]

My only tip for you is on stripping T8 (or smaller) screws. Many people dong know this, but screwdrivers, and especially bits, are DISPOSABLE. If you are disassembling knives daily, or even weekly, you should be replacing you bits every few months. Stripping screws has nothing to do with the size of the screw, rather it is 100% caused be the failure of the bits.

[@metal_complex]

I'm not doing it daily. I do it periodically and when I'm dealing with T6 screws I slip more often. I'll always prefer T8+ over T6.

[@tallica4life81]

My number 1 and 2 issues personal is is first steel that’s not heat treated properly or poor choice of steel on a 250 dollar knife. Second when the knife comes from the factory with uneven grinds.

[@joeallen2354]

I cant stand high and knives in mediocre steels.

[@TheBigToe69]

Joe Allen What high end knife is coming in mediocre steel? And before you say S30v, show me an edge retention video with it failing to any other high end steel of the same quality and price point

[@cself55]

You hit all the things! I agree with every point!

[@kerrykitterman4602]

Except the detent ramp! !!

[@snowhusk]

That #2 point about up-down play is exactly the reason I sold my back lock knife and why I don't intend to ever own a back lock knife

[@MrTuffCookies]

I think the edge grinds are my biggest pet peeve. I won't name the company, but I ordered a knife from a well-reputed company which I've heard has *great* edges. First one sucked. It was like 12-13° on one side and well over 25°, maybe 30° on the other side. Sent it in to get replaced, and they sharpened it instead of replacing, but sent me another shipping label to send it in again and then they replaced it. But I'd bought a second version of the same knife, and all 3 blades I ended up getting had uneven edges. The first one was definitely the worst, but the other two were not great. So disappointing. Makes sharpening a pain, especially if you're actually trying to even out the edge. I don't get why they don't just have jigs to put the edges on their blades to keep them consistent.

[@noviceknives]

Great points to be made. Referring to the part about the detent clutch with the 0562, if you remember I told you about it, Sent in to ZT and came back with new pivot screw but same issue. I called and the Service Rep stated my issue has to do with the Detent Ball (duh!) and its a production knife so there is no modification to be done, thats how it is! (HUH?,really?) For what its worth it only seems to be 0562, two other buddies have same exact issue. Still love the ZT's though, 0393 and 0550 great knives.

[@ceschannel3307]

“Double clutch” - agree that frame locks that don’t have great detent designs are annoying. Good call out! But the use of the term “double clutch” is not a term used in the knife world to describe bad detent design - and it’s just awkward. I’ve been seriously into knives since around 1990 and never heard “double clutch” used in our knife world. Just saying. Keep up the good work, though!

[@MayhemMechanic]

That is the sound of garbage............. grinding against garbage hahaha I'm dying

[@JamesGerzon]

I enjoy your videos. One grip that I have not seen much online is the very hard/sharp edges on the back of the blade and metal parts (back lock depress bar, etc.) parts from the Spyderco knives. I have dozens of knives from $20 to 400 dollars, and all (except the Spyderco) have very smooth edges. Spyderco, why? Although there is one video of a gentleman smoothing the back edges of his Spyderco blade.

[@geraldrice8012]

The worst grinds I have ever seen on knives are: 1. Benchmade 940( first Benchmade I ever ordered) I sent it back. 2. Made in China Kershaw, can’t remember what model, I kept it because it wasn’t worth sending back. 3. My ZT 0562Ti , should have sent it back but I love it so much I couldn’t be without it.

[@logantodd6319]

Totally agree they should get rid of T6 hardware!

[@michaelhansen6802]

You had me at "one extra screw".... 😂

[@Keith_the_knife_freak]

I would have to agree!! In today's age there are no excuses for these kinds of things !! #knifesnob

[@ferrumiumcanis5211]

To me the biggest issue is "borrowed" design. Have you seen OKC Trinity? Maybe I could excuse Ozark Trail since they didn't make much money anyway.

[@ZakWilson]

Regarding warranty, NO! It's not up to the manufacturer. Voiding the warranty for performing maintenance on a consumer product is illegal in the US unless improper maintenance caused the failure, the burden of proof for which is on the manufacturer. See the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act for details.

[@metal_complex]

Whoa. Calm down. This was meant to be implied in the video.

[@wretchpin]

Agreed. Would've loved a couple spare screws for my 940...different after market scales and whatnot.

[@wretchpin]

Also...my Gerber fastball is a good example of production line, uneven bezel grinds. Should easily be rectified before selling for $100 +

[@anthonycampos7417]

from my understanding is Microtech put proprietary hardware on their knives to prevent idiots from injuring themselves or someone else while disassembling any of their automatic knives while still under spring tension. There is a video of a guy trying to put his HALO back together again and ended up shooting the blade across the room. at what point is the manufacturer responsible to protect them from themselves/cover their own asses from lawsuits?

[@GOxHAM]

"Can we hear this?... That is the sound of.... GARBAGE... GRINDING AGAINST GARBAGE!" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

[@pooslinger6839]

Blade centering and the t6 screws are what bother me the most. I have stripped so many t6 screws. And then there are companies that put lock light on those t6 which makes it so much worse!

[@barkingspider2007]

Amen Brother! Would love to get parts with my knives... Wonky Edge Grinds... I have a PM2 in M390 that is very poorly ground, expensive sprint run etc big disappointment. Better Quality out of TwoSun Knives for a fraction of the price. The below $35 market has me amazed that they can even make a knife, good, bad or ugly. I like to practice sharpening on Ozark trail products. Great Video Thank you very much : )

[@andyhooutdoors]

I refrained from a Hinderer because my XM-18 came with a rattling stop pin. I could actually roll the stop pin with my finger. Just makes the XM-18 feels like a cheap knife.

[@metal_complex]

I had that issue on one gen 4 two years ago. But literally 25 Hinderers later (and 5 gen 6s) I've never seen the issue again. All of my other ones were flawless.

[@andyhooutdoors]

Metal Complex That is great news! I have been itching to get another one. Thanks for the feedback!

[@SeemsLogical]

I know you're not into negative videos but you really ought to do a dedicated video for T6 screws.

[@metal_complex]

Haha maybe I should!

[@metal_complex]

Haha maybe I should!

[@andrewt248]

The only knives I have that have centering issues are USA made, oddly enough.

[@Stolenives9]

Liked, subscribed, love this guy. This is a great idea for a video. Agreed with every point 💯%

[@seannforce2690]

#8. Got a Kershaw dividend with M390 that was crazy steep on one side and super shallow on the opposite. I just fixed it myself, but I should have sent it back. Not what you want to see on a $90 knife

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I know the $100-$300 range has become impressive

[@jstnhnt28]

Congrats on 12k subs!!!

[@metal_complex]

😊⚔🤝

[@freyrsson7490]

I agree about the t6 hardware. Its always annoying to have to switch out the t6 with t8 on my EDC knives.

[@radikalshinobi2100]

1000% with you for the T6...

[@ogenmatic]

Torx bits (even Wiha) are perishable tools. They wear out & will need to be replaced. Especially the smaller sizes. If your #2 Phillips screwdriver starts to spin out of screws frequently you replace it. Same thing with a Torx driver. Regarding spare hardware, my only complaint is a lack of “readily available” hardware. I don’t mind paying five to ten bucks for a hardware kit. Kizer does this but it takes an annoyingly long time to get since they ship from China.

[@metal_complex]

I'm aware that tools are perishable. Everything is perishable. I dont want to be forced to use my weaker torx bits when the problem could be solved by changing the size if the fastener on the knife.

[@ogenmatic]

Metal Complex My comment wasn’t really directed to you as you always are competent & capable in your videos. It was just for awareness about tool wear. I’ve known a fair number of folks who seem to think that every tool they own will last a lifetime. My background is tool & die / CNC machining and have dealt with T6 (& even T5) since they fasteners were introduced in indexable cutting tools. Guess I’m just used to them more than some folks.

[@alphamale3643]

I cant stand the double clutch....How can i remove it

[@railerz101]

For knife enthusiasts. How much knives a month do you buy? Just a random question.

[@metal_complex]

I used to buy 2-3 a month. Sometimes I'd spend $100, sometimes $500. It became a real problem.

[@GOxHAM]

Got an uneven edge grind on my Spyderco Sage 5 LW. I damn near shat my pants when I saw that, unacceptable Spyderco, unacceptable. EDIT: excellent analogy with the different tread on tires from the factory

[@GOxHAM]

Didn't even know this issue had a name: DOUBLE CLUTCH. Holy shit, I HATE A DOUBLE CLUTCH. Super annoying, and is EXTREMELY apparent in the XM 18 skinny liner lock. You think the knife is free to close, then SIKE, it's caught on the detent ball. I still have never seen a "ramp" done on a knife outside of people modding it themselves. Maybe I am not high enough in the knife food chain yet, but I am starting to think a ramp needs to be on most knives.

[@TruckGuyHD92]

Bladehq sells bit for micro tech screws

[@RossBoss90]

Lol, I had to take my shaman apart when I first got it because the action was tight and the pivot screw was loose, the blade wasn't centered. Their really stooping down to the S/W level here, how do they justify the 200$ price tag....

[@gregoryburke2562]

Brian, what did you do to the back of your right hand lower than your index and middle fingers?

[@metal_complex]

Brian is Slicey 😉 my name is Richard 🤝 I ran into something out on my kids swing set probably

[@gregoryburke2562]

Metal Complex well that is embarrassing. I appreciate your patience Richard.

[@peopleperson7263]

The issue with my knife is that it opens past center / past 180 degrees and is crooked. If I google this i get vids on how to fix knife “centering” issues which isn’t what I mean haha. Anyway to fix this ? When open , knife goes a bit too far and handle and blade aren’t on strait line.

[@kindjal1]

I recieved a Spyderco Resilience with about a half inch of edge grind issues. The only knife I've ever got that had these issues.

[@TheBigToe69]

You say that like you’ve had hundreds of knives. I doubt you have that many though considering the knife you’re complaining about is a 40$ Chinese made knife. If you did I guarantee it’s not the first and only you’ve ever had.

[@sonofzorro1]

How about detents that are not appropriate for the design? Say, front flippers that have a stiff closed detent that make opening the knife super hard? Or no jimping on the flipper tab and your thumb slips off due to too stiff detent for that type of design? Hate it!