Top 10 Games We Regret Getting Rid Of

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Is there a game you have regrets about?

[@dr3putt62]

Squad leader and advanced squad leader

[@iandonnell]

I let Discworld: Ankh-Morpork go... And Chaos in the Old World. Darn it!

[@Fighterfan69]

Tapestry - I traded it away because I didn't like the randomness of the Tapestry cards. If you start with a bad hand of cards, it was tough to get going. Reluctantly played it again at a friends place and it played better with the expansion and some errata on the civs. May look into acquiring it again.

[@BillySpenc]

mine would be warhammer quest the card game!

[@metalbraine]

I think I have only one regret. It's Civilization: New Dawn. I thought base game was good, but it was lacking things. I was hoping for expansion, but none was coming so I sold it. And what do you know, a couple of months after I sold it, they announced expansion.

[@sunnivavarjord]

Yes! We’ll definitely steal this idea and make this top 10 after we’re done w/keep or cull 😁

[@bgt2701]

Haha, from the upvotes, u guys sure have alot of fans in common.

[@windyhillbomber]

You need to put out a Wanted Poster on the Roast Beef Guy. He needs to be sent away for a long long time.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

HAHAHAHA!!

[@LeRichardGames]

I laughed so hard at that Inis story. Naveen, you are NOT wrong. I definitely would have been exchanging "wtf" glances with you.

[@RangerRipcord]

I'd love to see a video of you guys showing off your collection :)

[@michaelhall7080]

That Inis story had me laughing out loud! I would also have trouble focusing in that situation. Great video!

[@HainishMentat]

I would have given up the hobby entirely.

[@Diabolik771]

Hate meet up neckbeard hygiene slobs. I don't go to them anymore.

[@Zeromus]

I would *love* to see a 10 games you regret purchasing video.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

HAHA that's hilarious!

[@gbursine]

House on the hill is so unique, in that, the story scenarios end up being super broken/one sided half the time... but it's ruleset is digestible enough to make the game very accessible and quick to teach, and a game usually ends up with a memorable story that usually ends up getting recanted.

[@christiney2556]

The roast beef story...so hilarious but painful to hear. Great video!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Haha we laugh about it pretty regularly! ;-)

[@mabdullahk]

Everyone has a Roast Beef guy and it drives me up the wall. I'd love to see a video on recommended snacks when gaming.

[@MussoGames]

Dice Tower has a backtalk episode about snacks. Just lookup dice tower backtalk snacks. It’s a true problem sometimes hahah

[@ylein6508]

No eating allowed unless utensils are used

[@loomick]

@@ylein6508 Id go one step further and say a food break away from the table is necessary. Keep that hidden grease faaar away from my expensive board games! Between that and bending cards, Ive nearly killed a few folk 😅

[@teehlfx5238]

Betrayal is one of my favorite games of all time!! I haven’t played it since getting Legacy but it will sit on my shelf FOREVER! I love so many things about it!

[@scottpayne8640]

I'm with you on the roast beef guy, Naveen. We were playing Stone Age with friends when one of them spilled her ice tea all over the board. We scrambled quickly to clean it up, drying the board, cards, etc. Needless to say the game ended prematurely, but we tried again later with no food or drinks on the table. Recently saw these friends again and one of them commented how particular I am about my games. What!?! Who likes the ice tea covered version of Stone Age?! Thanks for your story and the list.

[@Pythonzzz]

Omg that would piss me off so bad. You don’t get to say someone is particular about their games after you spill something on one of them.

[@mchobbit2951]

Yep. No drinks or messy snacks on the table with my games. Yes some people will parrot that "friends are more important than games" but friends can use a water bottle, get up to take a drink and eat snacks that aren't super messy.

[@SClarkPharmD]

Camel Up and Oh My Goods! Are treasures in my collection. Camel Up is unique in that it is on the line of party game/strategy game and can play up to 8 people well.

[@OscarDelgadilloAntar]

Ok I'm hooked to your content! Love the quality and variety!

[@lanethomason6000]

Star Realms has an app on both IOS and Android that is quite good. Even has a pass n play mode available for purchase.

[@mikemaixner1]

I'm a bit late in watching this video, but I hope you guys got a chance to revisit Inis. I adore that game. Naveen mentioned that he wants to feel clever in his games, and counter to his point, I have seen some of the most clever, surprising plays in Inis. The fact that you have to "announce" your impending victory doesn't necessarily mean you can't do anything sneaky. I've seen several games, for example, where players have (through keen drafting and timing of card play) won the game as the last player in a round after all other players were out of cards. I also love how you are encouraged to cooperate with other players, but only one person can win. Kingmaking doesn't bother me at all, but I can understand how people might disagree with me.

[@lauraweiss7875]

I’m still in the hoarding phase and have been very fortunate to find some excellent games (e.g., Lisboa, Vinhos, Barrage) for very reasonable prices from folks downsizing their collections. Love your channel!

[@perezoso9206]

I usually don't write comments but your roast beef story deserves one, it is like a "horror what if story" becoming real.

[@friederikeheh6514]

That roastbeef story is hilarious lmao

[@jayjackson6313]

Excellent video as usual. I would recommend looking into Hero Realms instead of going back down the Star Realms path. Get the character packs for some asymmetric starting hands and have a blast!

[@danielkeim8558]

I definitely want to try Inis! I actually enjoy the feeling of someone at the table saying "I'm about to win, try and stop me." It means you have to maneuver your positioning in such a way that you can't be stopped. Love it! Usually makes for some tense gameplay

[@Hunderworld]

Hey guys thanks for posting these board game content! i am from Singapore and because of you guys my family and friends have been enjoying the board games i'm teaching them learning from you guys. it has made us closer for sure. Thank you so much, keep up the god sent work

[@dirtywashedupsparkle]

What a great category or topic. I don't think I've really given a game away that I regret since I hoard so much, but thank you for reminding us to keep the games we do love and to think carefully before discards.

[@diegosantos8687]

There is a variant of 1846 for 2 players and it's quite good!

[@AssortedMeeples]

That's a really unique topic/take. Been fortunate enough to keep building gaming cabinets, but at some point I might have to start deciding what stays and what goes, lol.

[@TheHallbjorn]

The Inis expansion doesn't change the way the pretender tokens work or having to declare you are about to win, it just help decide ties so that you don't have multiple rounds of players tied to win. I think the reason declaring you are about to win works in the game is that there are multiple paths to victory and simultaneous victory can be very common, so it's not necessarily bashing the 'leading player' since there may be three players vying for the same title. Also, I think it's very thematically fitting since each player is a chieftain trying to become the high king/queen of the Celts ruling over the other clans, so it's realistic that a chieftain would publicly nominate himself while displaying he had what it takes to rule.

[@bendster1]

Been loving your playthrough videos and previews! Thanks for amazing content. Becoming my favorite gaming channel 😊

[@sergiojuan217]

I’ve loved your channel so much! For me I’m not at the point that I think I have too many games to cull. But I’m gettin there

[@MichaelFlorento]

Suggestion for a next episode. What games do you and your parents play?

[@HEMAYATC]

This is a very good suggestion!

[@Poiuytrew.Q]

Third this! My parents can do party games like Just One, Timeline, Dixit, Say Anything, Telestrations, but Abandon All Artichokes was too much.

[@cardboard_kid]

What a great idea for a video, and -- as always -- entertaining to boot! - The Cardboard Dad

[@Puzzu]

Great list! There are some classics there like Star Realms, Ethnos, and Betrayal that I’ll never cull! Also your story about the roast beef sandwich guy greasing up the cards at the table gives me shivers!

[@rbramblet]

Great video. I need to make some culling decisions soon... Loved the new thumbnail style too!!

[@dhmcarver]

This was a fun video. Star Realms was one of the very first games I bought when I got into the hobby. It is a great game - and takes up no shelf space (it is in a drawer with other card games). You should definitely pick it up at your FLGS. Ethnos is also a favorite - but I can see how it might drag at larger player counts (I have only played it with two). A couple of times you mentioned a game being out of print. Something that has struck me as I have learned about the hobby is how quickly some games go out of print, which is one reason I am reluctant to part with anything because if I change my mind, I might not be able to track it down again. BTW, the roast beef story was excellent - I can completely sympathize as I am the one who plays food-and-drink cop in my house.

[@bagookster]

Cartographers is my favorite in your bunch. I regretted culling Five Tribes. Bought it again a few years later.

[@petergross7235]

Fun list guys, the sandwich story was hilarious! Please no food at the table! I have a few regrets of my own during my culls. I try to keep my collection at 50 games or less. As a result some tough decisions come up from time to time. My biggest regret was getting rid of my copy of Forbidden Stars. No longer in print...I wish I kept that one. It was a wonderful game, and I remember I got rid of it because the box was too big, and it was only getting played a few times a year. I really do miss those couple games a year though.

[@kisslionheart]

Hi guys, congratulations on your subscriber growth!

[@axj763]

I also got rid of Quantum and regret occasionally but then I played again on BGA and remembered all the unbalanced cards along with how it can drag towards the end trying to stop the leader.

[@crushingbelial]

Arboretum is the bomb. Hard as hell to teach the scoring aspect of it but when the players understand it - woo that game gets nasty. Love it

[@thisissrsbzns]

I agree with your Arboretum #1. I have the deluxe version and although it's fine, there's something to be said about the first edition. Great vid!

[@JonTripp115]

You guys, SSSHHH!! A few of these are on my To Buy list, I don't need you driving up demand! 😂 I hate when I first hear about games like the month after they go out of print... The recent reprint of Ginkgopolis has given me hope for a Quantum reprint as well. OMG the roast beef story is priceless!

[@SClarkPharmD]

"I'm basically telling you to wash your hands" LOL. It would be great to hear your suggested gaming snacks.

[@Shot007]

you guys are amazing, everything you touch is gold! Keep up the good work. I really want to get ethnos because I've only heard great things about it and it looks like a great one.

[@haweissy]

If you do pick up Star Realms, that would be a fun one to do a livestream playthrough of your first playthrough of it again :)

[@SlothNast]

Highly recommend the Frontiers version!

[@beornthebear9023]

I think the only one I have culled that I have serious regret over is the nice big version of Cidadels I had gotten tired of it, but a few years later I just miss being able to bust it out for a quick easy to teach game with a big group.

[@brentvolper2104]

I am moving soon so I just culled a bunch of games last week. I got rid of my 1st printing of Betrayal because it sat on my shelf for 5+ years without getting played. No regrets yet, but we'll see. Actually I do regret selling it for such a low price, lol.

[@Dehalove]

I got the Feast for Crows expansion for the Game of Thrones game and I really look forward to playing it at its reduced playtime!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

No WAY!!!!

[@Dehalove]

@@BeforeYouPlay but none of my friends want to try because they remember how long the base game takes 😂

[@emmalind4484]

Inis is such a great game! I have no problems with kingmaking in the case of Inis. With careful planning and clever tactics, you can outsmart the other players I think, putting them in a tough situation in which their kingmaking attempts simply won't succeed. It's pretty rewarding :P

[@gerard4559]

My favourite play in Inis, which I found by accident, is to set someone else up to win next turn early in a turn and then after the rest of the players have knocked them down, using up their best cards to do so, activate your own win condition.

[@christophermoore8524]

Your INIS story enraged me. I love that game and I don't want to think about it being defiled like that.

[@tonkabeanicecream5698]

In regards to Inis the kingmaking is EXACTLY what makes the game so great, you have to set it up so that even with you announcing it you will still win.

[@AP-nz8qv]

Quantum is one of my favorite games!! I got it when it came out when I first starting getting into modern gaming.

[@laylance]

We buy a lot of games to try them out and sell if it's not our cup of tea. But one that I regret that was sold in a bigger spree is Rajas of the Ganges. We will probably re-acquire that one in the future.

[@ramonosuke]

Inis, Kemet, and Cyclades for me, mostly got rid of them because my game group slowly moved on or moved away. Also Champions of Midgard and Raiders of the North Sea with all expansions. Some other mentions would be San Juan, Aeons End, and Level 7 Omega Protocol

[@itboznkgvjugjtfg]

23:20 OMG I'd tear my frickin eyelids off!!! Why did you endure such horror???

[@itboznkgvjugjtfg]

This really sounds like a script from a cringy sitcom hahaha cudos for remaining civil

[@kknudsen4907]

😂🤦🤷

[@A6by]

Arboretum's original box is a fascinating case, because it's not like Quantum where people still sell it but make sure to double the price - it's instead so popular that people won't part with their copies at all, to the point that price never comes into play. That's the sign of a truly universally beloved classic. Both are games that I luckily held onto.

[@kossowankenobi]

Camel Up is a great family game (why it won SdJ) that belongs in every collection. I never did find an OG green-box of Arboretum when it first came out - was so happy for the reprints. Good luck with that quest! :)

[@bwah9481]

Didn't like Quantum when I first played it but tried it again more than a year later. I've been playing it a lot now and I love it!

[@ms15583]

Which of these games do you think you will repurchase or trade for to get it back into your collection? I've done that for a couple of games: legendary encounters: alien and mansions of madness 2ed

[@powertopeople1]

Camel up is a keeper if you have grandkids like we do , it’s either camel up or downforce that the family plays. Either game handles our group numbers. If you had a choice buy camel up 2nd edition , you can it without the new rules , so with that edition you can play either rules.There is a new edition of camel up coming out this summer but it does look like a racing game.

[@andraslibal]

This is nice, it is like a list of recommendations :)

[@destrio]

I definitely felt the same about some of these games, but my desire to store them is waning. I'd totally hand them off were we only in the same area.

[@chuckpham2091]

Wooo! Love the top 10 content!

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks for checking it out Chuck!

[@antontolman2708]

I really love Ethnos. It is easy to learn and teach, and the battle for control of the board really becomes tense, especially as the dragons start coming out. My experience is that with 4+ players the rounds become faster and faster as the game goes -- at times, we forget whose turn it is because we are all struggling with which band to play, should I keep waiting or act now with what I have while trying to watch the board and the cards on the table. To me, that tension and tactical play is very enjoyable.

[@gadgetgeekgirl]

Love this game, but my son nicked it and took it away to Uni!

[@shawnmincer8231]

Great video! Thanks! I would recommend playing Inis again with the expansion. I find it an fun game, and working out card and turn management strategies to assure a win, even with an early in the round pretender token draw, can be part of the fun. Also, a person does not have to take a token just because they have a win condition, but must to win. So managing that tension can be an addition to game play. Hope you enjoy it!!

[@paulallison6418]

Great video guys I related a lot to this list, we are a board gaming couple too, my partner is Emma. We have Quantum, but it's in the "cupboard" not on the shelf, I agree it is a good game and needs to come out of the cupboard! Camel Up is in the cupboard too but we never want to play this as 2 player so that's why its there. It's a good family game though, good fun. Emma and I like Star Realms too this is on our shelf and comes to the table now and then, it's small, so easy to transport when on holiday.

[@brianlong9100]

FWIW you named the artists for Quantum. The designer is actually Eric Zimmerman (who's got a pretty interesting background...)

[@chinwhat]

sounds like it was a good roast beef sandwich! haha More on topic, this also sounds like an evolution of understanding 'game language' (specifically to Navin's comment on Star Realms/deck builders) Once someone understands how games work, thats when the lightbulb turns on and its great seeing how things develop like taste preference, strategy exploration, etc

[@dangerousbeans2907]

The thing about Ethnos is even at the highest player counts the game is so fast; It’s always your turn again. Fantastic high player count game.

[@bugscheese]

Totally agree about Arboretum ZMan ed. I found the new version garish. Great game!

[@flaviusbelisarius3240]

The original version of Puerto Rico from Alea. After upgrading I missed the original game so much I went out and got another copy with the expansions again.

[@paulhamrick3943]

FYI, I have two copies of Quantum, one opened and one unopened, BOTH "revised edition"! However.... I paid $140 CAD for the unopened one a couple months ago :)

[@SwordandBoardGames]

Middara :(( I loved my plays of it, but my space issues are real and I was 16 games in/not too far and it was box one of THREE! I had to just sell it while it was hot and get out.

[@lazulin]

Fresco - I had the big box and 'it took up too much space', but I often find myself missing it. Kanagawa - often ran into scenarios that I would have played it in, but don't own it anymore. Inis & Blood Rage - thought both were great but really wasn't making it to the table. Honestly, pretty much ended up sold because I couldn't decide which I preferred. Not sure I regret selling those, but sometimes I wish I still had them. Glass Road - loved it but sold because it wasn't making it to the table. Still miss it. I think most of my regrets are games I got rid of due to lack of an audience for them, not due to my feelings about the game.

[@lightblue98]

I fell in love with Arboretum from watching a SU&SD video with the z-man art. Picked up the new version because that was all I could find. Loved the game play... and finally bought the z-man version on eBay. Happy ending.

[@DenisRyan]

No. 2 expansion is a modular expansion, with, I believe, 5 individual elements that you can add a you choose. It's great.

[@jellevancamp7190]

Naveen will be hooked at Star Realms. At really dislike very confrontational head-to-head games, but Star Realms is different. It holds a sweet spot in my heart.

[@DenisRyan]

I have so many of these games still on my shelf. No. 2 is my all time favourite game. I also have No. 8 and 9, and adore both. Finally, I have the green box edition of No. 1. I'll bring them all to the next in person SHUX and you folks should make the trip up and join us and we can play a few! Hahah! I promise, no beef sandwiches, certainly not around my favourite game!! Did you know, the artist that they licensed all the card art from is the same artist that painted the iconic Che Guevara poster!

[@Feldingor]

You should try and see if you can late pledge the Star Realm Nova Collection. It’s a great re-entry to the series IMHO, you get a bunch of foil cards from various expansions in a neat big box

[@74c0c47]

Naveen, that's a bangin' sweater.

[@mavweirdo]

So Naveen culled Star Realms because he wasn't good at culling, but now that he culls more he is considering unculling Star Realms.

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Mind games I tell you!!

[@ClockworkWyrm]

@@BeforeYouPlay If you haven't tried it I highly recommend Shards of Infinity. It plays almost identically to Star Realms but it has a level up mechanism called Mastery that unlocks new powers on cards in your deck. This gives it a new layer compared to Star Realms without over complicating the quick and satisfying gameplay. Plus it has an expansion that turns it into a co-op game for a different experience. I haven't tried the co-op mode but Jamey Stegmaier from Stonemaier Games raves about it.

[@bailey626]

We have camel up and haven't played it in years. We have betrayal at house on haunted hill and have never played it!

[@svenminning]

Great topic with the stories. Sort of meta-review of games :-). I find the music/muzac in the video a bit distracting though...

[@Kedomel]

Okay. I gotta ask because you’ve said it a couple of times and I’m just so clueless … What is a math sale?

[@DoctorOzelot]

Definitely try Inis again. I think it's great.

[@NemoMangelk]

I was also scared about that with Inis. But, you actually have to be much more clever to win in Inis. You have to set yourself up for multiple win conditions. I thought it would detract from the game, but after 3 plays - I did not see that at all

[@BeforeYouPlay]

That's really good to hear! Have you tried it with the expansion?

[@NemoMangelk]

@@BeforeYouPlay not yet, but I did grab it for the reasons you listed. But yes. Ultimately, the winner of my three games set themselves up with three win conditions, using the first as a double bluff for the second. And a planned third as fall back. It's a great game and I like it more than blood rage

[@filios2]

I think I would have been enraged with roast beef person, probably just stopping the game altogether. Great video, keep up the great work! You bring an air of freshness to the scene which I do appreciate.

[@WiseWizardGames]

just checking out this video but we would be happy to send you any of our games that you would like to play! Happy to hear you want Star Realms back! I have had this experience where I gave a game away and then I wanted it back, and it is the worst, you just have to get them again!

[@mkitten13]

I love Oh My Goods, I definitely recommend also picking up the Longsdale expansion for it, it makes the game even better. You switch from having the number of buildings built be the timer to having an event deck be the timer, there's a bunch of new buildings, and the events are a good edition to it. Oh man, I would never get rid of Star Realms, that's such a fantastic deckbuilder, I would definitely recommend adding events (just a fun randomizer to throw in), missions (gives alternate win conditions to players) and cosmic gambit (gives player asymetric starting bonuses) and potentially looking into the command decks for asymetric player powers. I can't say I have much regret in terms of getting rid of games, there are definitely good games that have left the collection, but looking through the list of 200+ games I have let go over the years, I still find my reasoning for letting them go to remain solid. Either I wasn't prioritising them (meaning there were too many other games I'd rather play) or I swapped them out for app version or a different game that did the job better.

[@hugotavaresgomes9539]

the game I regret get rid of is: Abyss. it was my first modern baordgame, I played it a lot. there is an super unique gameplay, superb art. but I needed the money. I miss is a lot :(

[@christianbank393]

I also culled Inis before giving it a proper chance and before the expansion was out, I want to give to give that one another chance. Other ones I regret are Grand Austria Hotel and Concordia.

[@juleswatson7646]

Woah you guys really need to revisit Inis! Timing for win declarations is so key. I’ve not ever had king making problems in the game.

[@finecommathanks]

Did you guys catch the foil kickstarter for the base set of + extras of Star Realms? It's taking forever, but I'm hyped about it. WW got a new one coming out called Robot Quest, where it's like Robot Arena with a deckbuilding side thing. I'm pretty excited for that. Like Clank! but interaction between players.

[@julianalbertoarcesanchez964]

Betrayal at the house on the hill is amazing - sadly I had so much difficulties playing it with people who don't have a very good grasp of english as a language; played it 3 times, loved it but everyone was "meh"... so sad to trade it away.

[@teehlfx5238]

Betrayal is one of my favorites! I don’t play it as much since Legacy came out but I can’t bring myself to get rid of it.

[@talhaiqbal6798]

You guys should do a collection list for what you currently have or have kept for a long time. We'd be curious for you to contrast this video to one like that.

[@BoardGameNook]

The best way to avoid this problem is never get rid of games 😁 I like that your number 1 regret was based on liking the art of the original. There have been a couple times where we have kept the original game and just taken the new parts from the reprint/reskin because of the art. Kingsburg 1st edition for example.

[@polymossimal]

Hey! I like your new thumbnail art. Looks great

[@BeforeYouPlay]

Thanks David, we're experimenting ;-)

[@kaladze93]

Agricola and Barrage, but I can't say I regret it, the problem is that I was the only one who appreciated them in the group and I hate keeping games that I know never get chosen. So, what I really regret is my choice of friends :)

[@TheHexyBeast]

the digital version of star realms is really good btw and theres plenty of extra content

[@paulsousa]

I have Inis and have played it a few times and still haven’t grok’d it. I want to love it because of the art and components, but the gameplay hasn’t grabbed me. I’m keeping it though since I have the Matagot XL trilogy.

[@freek204]

I think there's a difference between king-making and bash-the-leader. King-making happens when there is more than one person in the lead and the other players choose to help one of those players to win the game. I think this can be very thematic and can make for good stories, especially in Inis. Bash-the-leader occurs when one person is in the lead and the rest of the table gangs up to take them down, and in my experience this can be very frustrating. But I admit that it's a fine line between the two and they're not mutually exclusive.

[@jstuart1980]

Did you back Birds of a Feather: Western North America? It was on Kickstarter recently.