Top 10 Private Eye Movies with Max Allan Collins

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MaxAllanCollins.com Too Many Bullets amzn.to/3W66RLz Quarry amzn.to/4bUgvGr Eliot Ness Box Set amzn.to/4aoHkkC Spillane: King of Pulp Fiction amzn.to/3K1KfVM Eliot Ness and the Mad Butcher amzn.to/3UY0NEf Scarface and the Untouchable amzn.to/3ytWmYY Black Hats amzn.to/3JYjOjA Eliot Ness: An Untouchable Life amzn.to/3wxxG1m The Road to Perdition amzn.to/3QFO7Q3 Further Viewing: Top 5 Film Noir with Max Allan Collins - kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXOcZZmOf7dshtU Film Noir: Exploring the Dark Side of Cinema with Max Allan Collins - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5DSnISdZ8h5mq8 The Max Allan Collins Interview - kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZeUpoCAmcyCopY Top 5 Westerns with Max Allan Collins: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6LGqZ-DjJaNadE Max Allan Collins Turned Down The Untouchables kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJW6aJWLZraEl5o The Untouchables 4K Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXS7gYtrgK2gd7s **************************************************************** Download the audio version of this episode wherever you get podcasts! **************************************************************** When shopping on Amazon, please consider using Cereal At Midnight's affiliate link to support the channel: amzn.to/3LAgnlt **************************************************************** Become a Member and unlock exclusive videos, early access, and much more at Patreon.com/CerealAtMidnight or through KZbin Memberships at www.youtube.com/@CerealAtMidnight/membership **************************************************************** Movie Review Archive: CerealAtMidnight.com/p/reviews.html Cereal At Midnight Swag: CerealAtMidnight.Threadless.com Ebay.com/usr/cerealatmidnight Patreon.com/CerealAtMidnight Facebook.com/CerealMidnight Twitter: CerealMidnight Instagram: CerealMidnight TikTok: OfficialCerealAtMidnight Letterboxd: CerealAtMidnite

[@ricardolorrio8228]

as Londoner, the Big Sleep (1978) is a terrible movie... sadly, Film Noir doesn't work well in London...

[@devonbrooks246]

You’re guys conversations are the best. Love these Top 10 lists.

[@BlackMetalSchecter]

Max is a gem, quarry series is outstanding.

[@griffredux9966]

Great conversation, gents! This is the kind of stuff that I could turn on and listen to all day. I think when you talk about stuff you love, it shows through. That is what I got from you two in this video. Thanks, Heath!!

[@StellarStation214]

I love these conversations that you have with Max about westerns, film noir, and history. Such a treat!

[@doktorgoulfinger]

Always love these conversations with Max Allan Collins. Friendly and informative, they're always a pleasure to sit through. Kind of like sitting in a diner booth with a couple old pals. Thanks for making this a semi-regular visit.

[@chrisdingsdale7400]

Max is such a great raconteur. If he says they are the greatest then they surely are. Love his work in any medium.😊

[@MsModestyBlaise]

My husband and I just watched absolutely riveting discussion. This is the kind of thing that makes your channel great. Thank you

[@shawntaylor7442]

I've been really digging into the noir films over the last few years. Mostly Agatha Christie's adaptations but I've been watched Bogarts more recently. Now I have a few more to check out. Great conversation and such fun movies to watch 🤙

[@andysmith1996]

What Christie noirs are there? Chandler was a bit contemptuous of the drawing-room murder style.

[@zagain11]

I really enjoy these interviews/conversations with Max Allan Collins. In a recent one, he talked about Quarry (and showed the book which noted it was now a TV series). That prompted me to watch the show, which was quite enjoyable. I know it's different from the book series, but it does push me to check out the books as well. In addition, with all the discussion of Mickey Spillane in some of these videos, I've now started reading both the original Spillane novels as well as some of the ones Collins finished more recently which have been pretty entertaining. Prior to that, I think the only thing from Spillane I had ever read was the Mike Danger comic book series from the 90s (which I think Collins primarily wrote if I recall correctly) that was published by the short-lived Tekno Comix. As a slight tangent, it would be great if a collected edition of that series was ever put together -- I know some of their other books (mostly the ones based on Neil Gaiman IP) were collected by Paper Cutz a few years back.

[@TheCousinEddie]

Max is one of my favorite authors, such a skilled storyteller. The Quarry series is my favorite of his so far, but my plan is to read every book he publishes. Thank you for sharing your gift, Mr. Collins, now on to the Heller series!

[@jamescavallo7596]

I really enjoy these conversations with Mr. COLLINS!

[@stevealdous2043]

Great list. Pleased to see Shaft in there. Another worthy of mention is Night Moves (1975) with Gene Hackman.

[@TimothyRifenburg]

Would love to see a similar conversation about television detective / crime shows. Great list of films (and a couple I have to seek out).

[@williamjackson6705]

When he comes back ask him if we'll get anymore Ms. Tree comics. I fell in love with those stories 40 years ago and it's still one of my favorite series. She deserves a TV series or a movie.

[@williamjackson6705]

@@georgehenry1258 Do you think she pull off the hairdo though? Lol 😂.

[@SnakeNel]

Great discussion. Excellent illustrations of films and books discussed.

[@4bobbyt]

I recall the advertisements for MURDER, MY SWEET referred to the star as "The New Dick Powell". I remember asking my mom what the old Dick Powell was like; and she just laughed.

[@daveandreahoward8203]

These visits are always so well done. Great job, y'all ...

[@tectorgorch8698]

I love that anecdote about JH shooting the book. A few years ago when I was rereading Dog Soldiers after seeing Who''ll Stop The Rain a few times I had the same thought -- One reason WSTR was sooooo good was that "they" pretty much shot the book.

[@stevemoody13]

Hell, yeah!!! Thanks.

[@paulypoover]

I'm really enjoying these conversations. I watched "Devil in a Blue Dress" after hearing it mentioned in this and I really liked it!

[@TheAlexZorba]

Love your MAC videos! I did a lot of reading using a library card before there was internet. Included in that was all the Hamett I could get. Read the Maltese Falcon before I saw the movie. Max is always spot on. All the knowledge he brings. You can just listen to him go on.

[@MosesWine]

More of this please. Love this dude! Would love to here him talk about a few others I like such as The Long Goodbye, Shamus, Night Moves, etc. Never considered Vertigo in this milieu. Very cool. I would also love to here his thoughts on JP Melville's films. I have to imagine he's a fan.

[@wibre8753]

I wanted to mention one of my favorite novels, Falling Angel by William Hjortsberg, which is a genre mash-up but the lead character is a private eye--sort of. It was made into a good movie--not as great as the book--called Angel Heart, directed by Alan Parker and starring Mickey Rourke.

[@HECTORMONTALVO-le9cn]

Great interview and cool video Heath!👉🙂👈

[@templecitynick8120]

Adding to my "Must Have!" List now; thank you, gentlemen. -Nicholas Cain

[@damianp564]

Always a win. Cheers!

[@baltog5214]

I really love these top 10 videos you do with Max

[@SnakeNel]

I think Collins hit all of the big ones, and I was glad to see some love for MARLOWE and TWILIGHT. I definitely prefer THE BIG SLEEP to FAREWELL, MY LOVELY, though. Bogart is, for me, closer to Marlowe than Dick Powell. THE BIG SLEEP has that wonderful opening with General Sternwood, Martha Vickers, and Elisha Cook Jr.'s best role. A couple other private eye films not mentioned that I like are: THE DARK CORNER - A cool variant on the private eye story, where the private eye's secretary (Lucille Ball) helps out the embattled private eye. HICKEY AND BOGGS - Very downbeat 70's crime film with Robert Culp and Bill Cosby as low rent private eyes. Written by Walter Hill and directed by Culp. THE LATE SHOW - Wonderful character piece with a great Art Carney as aging p.i. whose partner is killed. The interplay between Carney and Lilly Tomlin is superb. Sweet cameo by Martha Vickers. SMILE, JENNY YOU'RE DEAD was the second pilot film for HARRY O. David Janssen is world weary retired cop who was shot in the back. The narration is very evocative. A nice sub-genre is the private eye facing supernatural forces. Mickey Rourke in ANGEL HEART (one of his best roles), Fred Ward in CAST A DEADLY SPELL, and Scott Bakula in LORD OF ILLUSIONS. I also would note the doomed private eyes in PSYCHO and THE SEVENTH VICTIM.

[@andysmith1996]

I find the trouble with Bogart is that he always just Bogart, just like Sean Connery was always just Connery, whether he was playing an English secret agent as a Scotsman or a Russian submarine captain as a Scotsman or an Egyptian-Spanish nobleman as a Scotsman. I do love "The Big Sleep", but I'm in camp Powell for sure.

[@clazy8]

Looking forward to the True Noir audioplay. Let us know when it's out!

[@CerealAtMidnight]

Maybe I can get Max AND Robert Meyer Burnett for that one!

[@andysmith1996]

I totally agree about Dick Powell being the definitive Marlowe. I love all Chandler adaptations, but Powell stands out for me. Liam Neeson did well, too.

[@jdsantibanez]

Shamus, with Burt Reynolds.

[@dmytryk7887]

One that would make my top 10 list but seems to be pretty forgotten or ignored is "Gumshoe" - a British film from the 70s directed by Stephen Frears and starring Albert Finney. It is slightly comic but it does have a nasty edge to it and a downbeat ending.

[@playedout148]

Saw "Kiss Me Deadly" when I was a kid. Was a little freaked out.

[@joshua2814]

Good stuff. I have to admit that when people say stuff like you can't count PI movies as film noir, I'm lost. I know that there are non-PI noirs, but when I think of the markers I think of a femme fatale walking into the ventian-blinded office of a PI.

[@CerealAtMidnight]

To me, saying the PI movie isn’t noir is just another form of noir gatekeeping. Some of these noir elites have boiled the style down to about 8 movies that they hide behind barbed wire and dynamite.

[@joshua2814]

@@CerealAtMidnight Ha. Film Noir and Giallo are two genres/styles I really like, but am no expert in, probably having seen like 12-20 of each (mostly the ones that would be at the top of wiki article). Need to dive deeper.

[@u77750]

Great show guys. It’s a shame Robert Towne just passed.

[@willieluncheonette5843]

IMO the greatest of all is Kiss Me Deadly Will post my review if you want.

[@devonbrooks246]

If they made Chinatown today, you can bet they would have turned that into a trilogy.

[@SnakeNel]

Actually, that was Robert Towne intent. There was THE TWO JAKES and another unrealized J. J. Gittes film.

[@playedout148]

The Chinatown-verse.

[@andysmith1996]

@@SnakeNel Actually, Towne has denied that the original intention was to do a trilogy. H says they simply discussed maybe doing a third film after "The Two Jakes".

[@tectorgorch8698]

Yeah but Art Carney already did that in The LateShow.

[@mikeabbott8521]

Herschel Bernardi portrayed Lt. Jacoby on Peter Gunn. He may have been unavailable when Gunn was being cast; Ed Asner was a pale imitation of Bernardi's Jacoby.

[@michaelmcgee8543]

You forgot the xxx-rated versions. Dixie Ray Hollywood star, Blonde goddess.

[@michaelmcgee8543]

Maltese Falcon is over exposed.

[@mateusrosito3436]

Private eye... They r watching you

[@willmfrank]

They see your every move...

[@tectorgorch8698]

Alphaville?

[@mikemasters11]

way too much time talking about The Two Jakes.

[@FriedTux]

In response to "I can't watch / support movie because XYZ person is a terrible person". I get that. I specifically will not purchase any Woody Allen movies until that kid didler is dead. Roman Polanski? I will, but only because his victim has already come forward and forgiven him. But also... He was a terrible human being for doing that.