Top 10 Removed Systems Players Want Back

Throughout the history of WoW, Blizzard has implemented many systems during the years that have come and gone. Some were features of expansions or just simply didn’t work out and Blizzard disliked how they felt. Regardless of these systems and how Blizzard felt, there were still a pretty large amount that players would’ve liked them to stay in the game. In this list, we’re going to be going over the removed systems of WoW and how badly players would like them to come back into the game.
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├ The List
Intro: (0:00)
10.) Corruptions: (0:21)
9.) Guild Perks/Levels: (2:40)
8.) Reputation Tabards: (4:04)
7.) 3-Man Scenarios: (6:23)
6.) Azerite Essences: (7:55)
5.) Legiondary’s/Legion Legendary’s: (9:21)
4.) Personal Loot: (11:20)
3.) Master Looter: (13:10)
2.) Artifact Weapons: (15:22)
1.) Reforging: (17:58)
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[@sii9814]

I really want the brawlers guild to come back was a great place to meet new people and its fun when theres nothing else to do

[@feron450]

I say this everytime Bruce gets chosen by my random mount hotkey. Brawlers guild is my absolute favorite thing to do in the game

[@pariscanwait348]

Everytime I summon bruce I get nostalgic over brawlers guild

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

It's crazy to me that Brawlers Guild still hasn't been updated, it has been a staple feature of the game since MoP, even WoD despite being a very barren expansion eventually got around to scaling it up. Definitely needs new rewards if it's brought back though, would have loved to see some brawler themed spiky armor for our dragons.

[@MrLeemurman]

Don't they usually bring back brawlers guild at he tail end of an expansion to keep players busy?

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

@@MrLeemurman I would say they usually bring it back sometime around the 0.1 patch of an expansion. We are long overdue for having it brought back.

[@robertstuart480]

"Reputation Tabards" is by far what I want back the most. It really helps rep grinds so much.

[@vikkran401]

Yes please. I honestly can't stand this timegated WQ bs, just let us grind mobs in the open world and dungeons like the old days. I also wished they would update the enchanted crests at the end of each renown level because like I got to renown 30 with Valdrakken accord yesterday and that enchanted crest still offered is season 1, which is like 395 ilvl, aka worth nothing.

[@MSinistrari]

Rep Tabards were the best when it came to a particular faction/group just not having enough options compared to others in earning rep. 'looks at Laughing Skull'.

[@DankMemes-xq2xm]

100% this! It's super annoying having to log in all the time to do dailies, I'd rather grind it out doing a bunch of dungeons over a few days, or combine both methods.

[@voidhunter2800]

I’d love to have it so i don’t need to suffer from world quest burnout.

[@Zazu1337]

and that would also give thie insentive to actually wear them it just makes so much sense. But i would love to see that the one you can't trasmog them. i think the physical representation of the faction is really the icing on the cake

[@TechtonixZi]

"Have group, will travel" and pulling 10% of all money gained from quests and stuff and putting it into the guild bank for repairs and stuff were both AMAZING for guild levels

[@thepsychomagus]

the guild's group will travel helped out a lot when I first started since I didnt have flying nor did i know where the heck i was going. made it a lot easier on the people i was farming old and new content with.

[@holyheretic3185]

Man have group will travel was AMAZING for getting For The Alliance or For The Horde and world pvp in general.

[@scepts]

have group will travel would be phenomenal for a 3k io reward

[@plummet3860]

the money perk just amped up the formation of cesspool guilds

[@Lazydino59]

How did GMs not make this list

[@krustyklownkollege7361]

Oof. This. 👏

[@macewindu9100]

that's not a system.

[@rundown132]

its been replaced by the automated reporting system @@macewindu9100

[@BattlestarHavoc]

There is still GMs but just very few compared to old days, they can just go between any server and thus there is a smaller need for them. Before they had to have GMs for specific servers.

[@melg8648]

How did GLYPHS not make this list?

[@Zeigler_]

As much as I loved the class fantasy of the order halls, I would like them to come back but in a way which makes sense like they are a place for our classes to hang out/get class power, maybe to unlock tier sets or something then the new capitals wont be pointless but the order halls can be reused/updated

[@CHRSS111]

Agreed. It's also abit illogical that we sort of forgot about these factions and everyting we did together back then.

[@superdaveozy7863]

I have the most playtime in Legion because of how amazing Artifact Weapons were.

[@svart_kors]

Artifact weapons were my favourite as well. I still transmog mine for my main.

[@Salmon_Toastie]

@@svart_korsartifact made me stop using “basic” looking weapons, I can only used named things because we are supposed to be heroes! Legendary weapons come hand in hand. Also the only shield I can use is bulwark of azzinoth/blackrock bulwark because of its legendary status.

[@BlastHeart96]

Same. It was expansion responsible for the most alts I’ve ever made and played. First one where I leveled every class to max just being I wanted to experience all of the Class Halls and their campaign stories. I’ve been thinking about how they’d evolve the Class Halls to an evergreen system. That and how they’d evolve/apply the artifact system as a fun evergreen system that applies to all weapons (probably with different requirements than only farming a resource like artifact power).

[@TheEiric]

Same. I played every class back then and got 26 of the mage tower appearances before the last patch made us op. Nowadays i barely keep up on my one character i play

[@TheSamweird]

I miss my artifact weapon and class hall

[@masonmcconnell9375]

Legion was an amazing g expansion

[@pmsherndon]

Brawlers Guild and archaeology! Dragonflight was the perfect expansion to bring back archaeology, waht with the entire story of the expansion being exploring and discovering the secrets of this ancient land

[@thepsychomagus]

there wasn't archaeology in Shadowlands? I know i only played a few months of Shadowlands before quitting for good but I guess they must not have had it. They had some nice weapons you could make from the early zones of Kalimdor and Eastern Kingdom. They could have done more of that in future expansions. The Brawlers Guild was great because you get to hang out with guild members or meet new people trying to complete it. There were usually a lot of players there encouraging you and giving tips on how to beat each of the bosses.

[@Hurtydwarf]

I could see no archaeology in shadowlands but not having it in Dragonflight makes no sense. An ancient land that hasnt been touched for thousands of years, would be so much to explore and discover.

[@soulcleave2386]

soabout arch, theysaid it makes sense for dragonflight, but they want to completely overhaul it,so theyre not wasting timeon adding content for it

[@casseroledank]

I really really miss the gem slot minigame, one of my favourite things to be cut

[@solofalcon]

i want the half-hill farm back, artifact weapons, better professions aka MoP was peak professions when each profession had a reason to have it.

[@alihorda]

Artifact weapons? Eh, also professions are needed in dragonflight already for some bis gear

[@MoonTurky]

​@@alihorda Dragonflight proffesions? Oh, you mean one of the most inept crafting systems ever designed ? I see why you made this comment, especially because the OP was talking about proffesions being good in MOP, not about *Proffesions not being done at all in current wow*.. i mean he literally said he wants, BETTER proffesions

[@treyb2874]

Reforging was mostly hated at the time because Hit Rating was still in the game back then, and reforging was a chore because the goal was to stay at Hit Cap but not go over it more than the minimum possible. The only realistic way to accomplish this was through simulation addons or external sites, and would often result in you needing to reforge several pieces to be "optimal." With Hit Rating no longer around, Reforging would be a much better feature.

[@PregnantOrc]

If Hit had only been given any type of benefit after the cap that would have made going over by a bit not matter as much and a lot of players would have been happy reforging the dropped item after raid rather than feeling a need to reforge the entire set. Especially for non BiS drops. Defense past cap gave a small bump to dodge, parry and block so if hit past cap had split among crit, haste and mastery that would have made excess hit a lot better

[@Tubz1990]

The issue is it would still end up being something to be solved by a third party add-on. I'd love reforging and other stats back but I've played since 4 months after the game launched so I'm a wow boomer 🤣

[@tsulong]

They say no reforging because they want players to be able to use a new piece of gear right away, but you still have to go get enchants, gems, maybe upgrade it to the right ilvl with flightstones.... reforging wouldn't be any different than all of those things you need to do when you get a new drop.

[@thepsychomagus]

Heck reforging would be an easier task than 90% of the RNG bullshit they keep adding to the expansions since removing it.

[@1un4cy]

Put a limit on items like Reforged (2) so you aren't automatically changing every piece of gear, but rerolling a bad stat off of that one odd piece of gear.

[@alihorda]

They will never bring reforge back because it reduced the fucking rng slot machine loot system

[@violetlight1548]

I liked the vanilla/BC Hunter Pet training. It just made your pet feel more personal, like you had put your time and effort into this specific pet, as opposed to the modern game where you just collect them like Pokemon (and like most Pokemon, most barely leave the Stable). We have Battle Pets to play Pokemon in WoW. I honestly don't mind having fewer Hunter pets if that means the ones I have are that much better.

[@EdBurke37]

Combining Essences, corruptions and yes Azerite armor traits made BFA Fire Mage just an absolute murder machine. Percentage increases to Mastery made my Ignite DoT tick for insane damage.

[@Dronesh_Tythun]

Idk if this is considered a system but the pvp blacklist . Where you could block 2 bgs maps you didnt want. It was really nice. I miss it.

[@skwervin1]

I cried when I had to give up my ashbringer. I had spent two years tweaking it to perfection, I had it just perfect for me, then we had to drain our neck pieces and give up those beautiful weapons. I would love to be able to have such a weapon and keep it going forever. Loved the class hall, having a place that was just for each particular class added to the ethos of each class, their mystery because only YOUR class could go there. I do remember loving the re-forging of gear. All too often you would get something that was 80% perfect but a secondary stat or proc was completely useless or rubbish, so reforging would at least give you a chance to get something a little bit better. And please....PLEASE... make professions actually means something. In WOTLK/Cata/MOP, JC's could actually earn some cash through gem cutting, prismatic gems etc as your upper level gear needed 2 - 3 gems each plus you would need glyphs or enchants as well. You never did a raid or dungeon without having at least 20 pots of various sorts - for one boss you might need a fire resistant pot or a cold resistant one or you wouldn't survive without draining the healers.

[@MalachiAlzorith]

Personal Loot was fine but the problem was that it was Soulbound to you if it was an ilvl upgrade. Sometimes that new item is only 3 ilvls higher then your current and it has your worst secondary stats on it, you should be allowed to trade it when it actually may be someone else's best in slot. I only raided during Tomb of Sargeras and Antorus before Master Loot was removed and it was the best. The problem was that people complained too much about the master giving them nothing ever and I'm sure Blizzard got sick of the complaints. All they had to do to fix it was make it so that when Master Loot was enabled, a popup appears on everybody else's screen asking if they accept the use of Master Loot, if they don't want it then they'll be removed from the group. Why waste your time playing with people you dislike for taking your loot?

[@CoversIncorporated]

Unpopular opinion, the legion grind was obnoxious, But I do be missing reforging fiercely, it would be nice to stack extra versatility for those high keys

[@MoonTurky]

*I dont want to grind in my game thats all about grinding*

[@CoversIncorporated]

@@MoonTurky Artifact power was so mid at best, boring and painful at worst, Couple that with the legendary system at the start, so yes, even in a game about grinding, legion’s grind was obnoxious

[@MoonTurky]

@@CoversIncorporated Thanks for sharing

[@HellfireBowsa]

The main problem with Reforging was that it existed at the same time as the Hit stat, meaning that Reforging was used mainly to tweak your gear to get as close to perfect hit cap as possible.

[@joch3085]

I want the mage tower challenges back and also Thorgast but the PTR version that was just for fun with no player power, just mindless killing with an overpowered character

[@thepsychomagus]

Yeah the mage tower I didnt bother with until somewhat close to the end of the expansion and missed out on a lot of appearances for the Artifact weapons. They should think of new appearances for each class to let people that enjoy that type of content a chance at it.

[@1un4cy]

Mage Tower is in the game 24/7, just go do it whenever. But it only gives you the newer timewarped version of gearsets.

[@weisshxc]

Idc about personal loot but I want bonus rolls back.

[@rundown132]

They removed those?!

[@knightshish0090]

Personal loot is still around however raid loot is group loot. But even in raid theres still personal loot along with dungeons is completely personal loot

[@CryptoSafetySquad]

Bonus rolls were just a gold sink and you rarely got anything useful from it in my experience at least...

[@weisshxc]

@@CryptoSafetySquad I rolled BIS items in legion multiple times with bonus rolls.

[@CryptoSafetySquad]

@@weisshxc that was a long time ago though, the bonus rolls in BfA were much worse, cost a ton of gold and almost never worked, lost so much gold that way..

[@existential_sad_boi]

MoP really was awesome. It's where i saw the most current content raiding, made some of the best friends i'd had to that point, the game was engaging and fun, the environments were visually stunning. let me go back to MoP and Legion days, man.

[@thepsychomagus]

MoP classic may cause me to return to the game after being gone for 4 years. I know Cata classic is around the corner and that is the expansion I started in but MoP was the best time I had playing. Each new expansion caused people I started playing with in Cata to leave the game for good. 😢

[@Real-Ruby-Red]

@@thepsychomagusdamn people starting in cata and mop is crazy. Did you play classic-woltk and if you did, did you enjoy it?

[@thepsychomagus]

@@Real-Ruby-Red I played some of Classic when it first came out but didnt keep playing since people i was friends with didnt keep going. Then I didnt go back due to completely stopping all Blizzard content during Shadowlands. I did enjoy Classic on non PVP servers. That is why I got that itch to play Classic when MoP comes into play since that was the best time playing for me atleast.

[@nightvale8984]

A huge flaw in almost all of these aside from maybe 3 of them, is that Blizzard didn't 'fix' most of them until the end of their respective expansions, it's hard to say anyone wants them back other than in their "fixed" better states at the end. Delves were probably partially conceptualized from 3 man scenarios. Shoutout to Brawlers Guild hope that comes back as its the easiest thing to bring back.

[@Rocketsredbear]

Bring back the hunter pet talents/spec switching. There's no reason why my wolf can't be both Cunning, Ferocity, or Tenacity. I know the current system encourages me to go out and tame pets, but what if I don't want a stable full of pets and just want one?

[@joetri10]

I agree with this very much

[@theimmortanjoe]

The corruption vendor using echos was amazing. I had enough stacked up due to skipping some azerite essence ,that i could buy all the % haste i needed for the xpac

[@TheDragonhawkKnights]

I agree with some of this list. I loved scenarios, guild levels, reputation tabards, and I LOVED the artifact system! Delves sound interesting...and the solo dungeons that are live now are good, I just wish we could have the systems I listed previously still in the game. And you're correct, the true endgame is cosmetics! 😂

[@svart_kors]

As a guildmaster, my forever wish is that you could have at least 20 ranks for your guild to allow for special acknowledgments etc. and that we could design our own tabard symbols or have more choices than the current amount.

[@caspervestergaard2430]

I dont have to tell you why you cant make your own tabard symbols... One of the worst things you could implement 🤣

[@SyonBroadcast]

I'm up for all of these mechanics. Plus I think Garrison was quite nice too. I mean, I still come back to it. It could potentially evolve into some housing and just be there as long as possible, not to abandon it on next expac comes out.

[@cleversonsutil4495]

I'm still using the Garrisons. As a Blacksmith your gear is immune to damage for 4h, and I can sell some potions/flasks on AH using the Alchemy shop.

[@FlipityGibett]

I miss Ironforge being the original Alliance capital city as it was the only one with an AH

[@HawkknightXC88]

I want Ironforge and Silvermoon City to be alive again along with other cities. I miss Cities being alive again instead of being in stormwind and orgrimmar where they are mosty alive with people in them.

[@izadarx]

I honestly forgot that master looter wasn’t in the game because we have addons to auto pass all the loot that comes out and have a loot council anyways

[@TommyMcD]

I'd like to see more set bonuses. Not class tier sets, but like item sets. It's a good idea they stopped supporting.

[@The_Tankologist]

I like how 4 and 3 are complete opposite Loot systems

[@TheRealDarthias]

@hirumaaredx - Just a slight addendum: Bonus rolls DIDN'T give you a guranteed piece off loot, it was just another chance at rolling for gear roll.

[@Cloudyowly]

It gave to some degree, first had 25% chance to give you drop if not it raised to 50 and if 2 rolls failed third one was 100 to drop something and then cycle reseted

[@foretcl]

I really miss personal loot. Although this new loot system is nice in guilds, in pugs and lfr people just roll need on everything they can and it suck’s if you really need an item

[@Svartig4ldur]

Well, most of those systems (especially corruptions and azerite powers) were removed because players demanded letting go of the constant borrowed power scheme.

[@joetri10]

Artifact Weapons and Legendaries i really enjoyed. I felt like everyone was on the same page, gave you goals and also made you decide a little on build variety without feeling lost. It just felt nice

[@batshine8]

Artifact weapons was great DURING Legion, playing through it after the fact, the lack of weapon drops is felt big time. While the fantasy of empowering your weapon was great, going back and getting a bunch of trash for those weapons leaves you kinda empty. But agree, Reforging needs to come back, regardless of what Blizzard says, it was great to have some customizable control over your stats other than "wear this piece of gear".

[@BoomerElite4u]

Challenge Modes in MoP with sick cosmetic rewards. At the time Ghostcrawler said they would remain in the game indefinitely. Turns out that wasn't true, and now you can't unlock the transmogs.

[@kaakrepwhatever]

Personal loot is still a thing except in raid content. In fact, group loot now has a fair number of highly geared players who roll on loot they don't need in order to sell them for gold to the players who actually need them, not all that different from gdkp, which is now forbidden in SoD. There is in essence no difference between renown and reputation. It's just a separate track so they can make you grind more rep. Sweet, eh? It's something Blizzard has done multiple times. Remember when players who didn't like world quests asked for dailies to be brought back? They did, and now you had to do both. And those new dragons? An extra track of mounts for collectors to grind, grind grind. My idea is instead of allowing players to reforge gear, gear should start with no stats, and a stat budget you could play with as you wished.

[@HawkknightXC88]

Artifact Weapons, 3 Man Scenarios, Reputation Tabards, and etc are the ones I want to see come back. Specially the Artifact Weapon System which was 100% fun in legion. Such a huge shame they got rid of it and only kept the boring azerite that you don't use as a resource in general really.

[@thepsychomagus]

I loved and hated reforging. It helped out a lot with making me do better dps. The issue is trying to manipulate it to get a precise number was annoying but not a big problem.

[@henriccarlsson9052]

Not sure what the system was, but as a rogue I was able to transform to a whisp, by combining some gear. That was a fun system.

[@kbredstar529]

the only insane sysytem i want back is the flying buttress... idk... he should be consulted before books are written.

[@watergirl929]

Sorry but I have to argue against the artifact weapons. I loved the system too yes. But there’s one problem I have. Because of them no new weapons for transmogg get made. Also you would need to be given more freedom of what you can choose to transmogg despite what kind of weapon you have on. Are they suppose to just limit future weapon transmoggs solely to artifact weapons? Or make new weapon appearances and have them drop from bosses as just collections for your transmogg collection? And being a Priest main does that mean I’ll just never be able to use wands and mace transmoggs again? And only use the dagger+offhand one I have that I love solely in Shadow now which I don’t main. If they bring back the artifact weapons they can’t never make new weapons and limit the transmoggs from us forever. I loved Legion and the system too, but that was the sole thing I didn’t like. For one xpac sure, but I don’t want to be limited that way with transmoggs forever, and never have new weapons made.

[@poro9084]

if i remember reforging was also great, bcs at that time we had hit rating, and you needed.. ithink 7? or 4? hit rating to 100% hit bosses, there were also haste caps, where dots would get one more tick which certain classes wanted to reach, reforging allowed to balance that point

[@MarkusWernig]

imho the main problem with reforging was the existence of hard caps like hit rate. you needed constantly fizzle around to not go over the hit cap (to waste any secondary stat points).

[@hermit44]

Borrowed Power always felt bad to me personally.

[@MoonTurky]

Playing wow without borrowed power basically means playing with statless items.

[@LionWithTheLamb]

I was talking to a guy who said BFA and the Azerite system was his favorite.

[@Paulo_fma]

Reputation tabards, guild perks, personal loot for pugs/lfr, and reforging I would like to see return. 3 Men scenarios may be back in delves. I wouldn't mind a "corruption mode" in delves either. Artifact Weapons and Azerite Essences were fun, but I don't want them back.

[@ZePouic_]

Artifact Weapons and Class Halls. Damn, this was soooo nice, I really wish we could have them back for Midnight and the big war between Void and Light

[@teece92]

Artifact weapons were nice because you never needed to worry about upgrading your weapon (your most important piece for a lot of classes), but everything about upgrading them was awful. Early Legion was such a pain in the ass with its world quest and artifact power grind. Corruption was a bad system. It was powerful, and if you had the gear to handle it, then it could make content that would normally be a faceroll much more exciting, as you could put on really high corruption to increase risks. However, as a player returning during that patch, sometimes the upgrade from a world quest I was really looking forward to suddenly wasn't an upgrade anymore, because it randomly rolled a corruption I couldn't handle.

[@Zack_Wester]

How I would redo tabard (when you get to Friendly you can buy the level1 tabard you need to buy it from the vendor you now can choice to be champion of X in the rep tab). this grind can take you to the next to higest rep level (the final one need special works no just grind a daily quest or mobs but something special for that faction and several hard and long quests). (each level above friendly unlocks another tabard to buy (they are all the same stat wise just for example the stormwind one goes from privet (friendly) to captain (at highest rank). when you hit the cap you get the special tabard to show off. why whit the current system (wrath) you went I need to rep grind whit X put on X did dungeons, raids and grind cap out, put away the tabard and never worn it again because why you dont get anything from that you get rep if you put on another faction tab, and Tabards was for many the one item slot you put the 100% looks coolest or silliest or bragging right as that slot item did nothing. not a fan of Artifact weapons why (for blacksmith we just lost a whole revenue stream why buy a blacksmith crafted sword when you get one for free from a quest that then never falls behind stat wise). Another reason is that I liked that my character changed as I progressed in the game. Like I and several in my old guild would as we leveled up take periodical screenshot of our character and the current gear and we could see our character go from wearing rags at level 1-5. to wearing something sensible at level 30 and 50 and so on and there was always something that changed. (this is something I wish blizzard would do have bosses drop blueprints and special mats for crafter to make specuial items. Example let say there is a raid boss that today drops 3 items ( paladin 1h sword, warrior plate male, holy priest trinket). Paladin 1h sword [Jorgens Judgment] Warrior plate [Kahns pride] Holy priest trinket [Jorgens Locker] what the boss should drop is a (Piece of jorgens sword,) now you could take this sword to a (level skilled) blacksmith together whit the blueprints + mats that would let you forge that into the Paladin 1h Judgment sword or a 2h sword or something else. Another system I would love to see comeback is the Player garrison come back but for guilds and purely as a bragging right, whit the size of the garrison and all that be the result of the guilds progress/work and money (me and my 12 friends that play together our guild hall would be a house out in the wood (instant). my old guild that was about 300 strong, made up of crater, 2 raid group + several several guild pug groups(we did not make it far) 12 player that more or less only did theater acting. we would have something akin to Theramore Isle after we worked for it. (they are all instant zone and how they look is is decided by the player, like is it out in the desert, is it on a island or deep in the woods and so on. the style of the buildings, is the whole guild hall just tents in a field whit a dirt and wood palisade around to represent that the guild is always moving or strong stone buildings. and maybe to add to it for guild to pick a direction (crafting guilds we get acess to special blueprints regular guilds/player can´t get/use. There was a ide I had many years ago (we RP it in our guild). and that was have some raiders be raiders and some player be crafter/gatherers. meaning we would lose most of our class abilities but gain special game play functions (you could fight but...not really). like a Miner could mine nodes whit special end gear ore that only a miner player could get(note we had next to no combat ability in miner mode that was set when the raid started and you entered so no clear the raid as 25 men then have everyone change to miner and mine out the now cleared raid). we could also open up shortcut (that was blocked by rocks or what not). Blacksmith could repair a bridge maybe. or drop down an anvil and apply a buff to the others.

[@Gebirges]

Rather than Reforging, I want old stats to be relevant again: Spell Power and Attack Power (instead of Int, Str and Agi being everything)

[@bigstopowens]

personal loot needs to make a comeback, did a raid at the end of shadowlands, i had just came back and was doing a lfr, because i didn't play the whole expac wanted some gear to go into dragonflight with and some mythic geared ass needed on a weapon, when i asked him he said he needed to sell it for repairs, it just made my day! hurrah come back to a game and the loot system was even worse. edit: i quit before the first raid came out in DF so i guess it wasn't all bad

[@jonathanalvar1234]

I just hit LFR for transmogs, so ir you need It for ilv i need It for a better reason.

[@AKS-74U]

Scenarios as a whole need to be brought back, and, they need to retroactively apply the scenario system to things like Classic so players can run dungeons "solo" while leveling instead of having to find a group that probably doesnt exist.

[@quicksavepoint]

So while i could comment on the shear number if things i would want back Ill mention that the reforging system was available in WotlK too I joined late right after Ulduar but i specifically remember having to reforge crit to haste on something because i was capped at the time this was right around when i became a raid leader for ICC groups So its a fond memory of mine, i never used the reforger after WotlK either

[@priestskorge]

Reforging was introduced in patch 4.0.1 that was the pre patch to cata. Wrath did not have reforging tech was cata content that released a little early

[@markuslc1888]

i just hope SL, legion and DF legendarys with 1. either insane dumb and rng aquisition combined with a huge power increase feeling mandatory to have, feeling terrible not to have or 2. needed to craft up to 2 leggos, partly even different ones for different content and in addition for every spec for insane cost overall...

[@alessandrobertipistoia]

Playing BFA without your Artifact Weapon felt very underpowering and felt like having a handicap That s so true!!!!!

[@DakotaRiffee]

when your main tank pulls 20+ trash mobs and your twilight devastation beam proc'd. It was pure bliss.

[@drthompson65]

I wasn’t a fan of the legion legendary grind but reforging was amazing. Wish that would come back.

[@Yuruzane]

Holy shit I forgot completely about Reforging. But yes, rep tabards, reforging and artifact weapons.

[@gg_gabriel_99]

Please refrain from using that blasphemous slu.

[@Cloudyowly]

Im rare case that prefered mop talent system, it has flaws but blizzard was working on it and they kept maki g new talents snd making them unique for every spec. Problem was they later decided on thier ability prunning and they removed alot of spells even those that was with us for alot of time to later implement them as talents. When they added this system they said on blizzcon its not removing ablilites rathet making everything more compact plus we get cool spell from talents every 15 lvls

[@seven2530]

If artefact knowledge bonus just ramped up weekly naturally like it did towards the end but at the start of legion they would have been way more of a success

[@djcheezenipz3292]

Legion is so much fun, even without the crazy powerful artifact weapons, I cant wait for legion classic.

[@solofalcon]

booo corruption gear, next!

[@AkiRa22084]

It was awesome. Even Asmon is sad he made Blizzard remove it.

[@AkiRa22084]

@@Fleshbag453 You should not feel entitled to BiS drops. RNG is a necessary part of RPG - in order to make good drops feel rewarding, there must be many bad drops. And the system was way better than Legion legendaries. If you "gotten gud" and did Horrific Visions 5 mask 5 chest, you would have had the Corruption you needed very quickly. The whole system was wonderful and me and my friends gathered corrupted gear every week. It's some of my best memories in WoW and my friends were never so engaged before that.

[@AkiRa22084]

@@Fleshbag453 What are you talking about? You said I based my opinion on his, which is not true. I formed my opinion before I even knew he existed, our opinions just happen to match, like with HirumaRed and countless other folk. You are entitled, stop that.

[@soulsmith4787]

My man didn't include the old glyph system, it was removed in Legion in favor of borrowed power. Now that they've removed the discrete borrowed power systems they should return the old glyph system.

[@Tubz1990]

Proper challenge modes would be cool to have back

[@m0002856]

ALSO DONT GET ME STARTED ON REFORGING. I loved reforging as system, and I thought their reasoning behind removing it made zero sense. In the same Blizzcon, they talked about how reforging was this tedious thing because of hit and expertise caps and how it just really wasn’t all that fun to have to wait to go back to town to reforge up a piece of gear using an add on that calculated the exact best way to reforge your items for you yadda yadda. Which that whole part was true. …and then they also announced the removal of hit and expertise in the same Blizzcon LIKE HOL UP A MINUTE. So the entire reason reforging was bad was because you had to go back to town and use various third party things to do it properly because of hit and expertise and so you’re removing reforging BUT YOURE ALSO STILL REMOVING HIT AND EXPERTISE?! Reforging in Legion would have been so much fun with the way that stats worked. Maybe you get a high ilvl piece but it’s not really your best stats BUT you can reforge it into something slightly better that makes it an overall item upgrade from what you previously had.

[@GrandAdmThrawn]

Azerite armour was also ok in the last patch of BfA. Took them some time to make it good.

[@WhiteLama]

I wish my hidden artifact skin was actually hidden and not just bought at a vendor....

[@Mattager21]

Been playing since wrath and i can say legion is my favorite expansion. The systems and sense of progression was the best in my opinion.

[@moofinek2666]

I watched it and I have absolutely no idea who wants most of the mentioned mechanics to return, they are no longer in game and that's good

[@gleaming8103]

the old talents are a big thing I am missing. not those listed here

[@archivedvideos2249]

I thought that tabards were still around?

[@Iggybart05]

my favorite systems in the game (some of which are still there) 1) flexible raiding sizes. honestly they should have added this to classic, fight me. the idea you have to fight a roster boss as some achievement is F'n stupid. 2) personal loot, because F GDKPs. also should have been added to classic. 3) guild perks! why did they ever remove this from the game? 4) reforging. because i get tired of getting a piece of gear with a terrible stat on them. people make too much of an issue out of the whole "it was annoying because you had to use sims" thing. but what would you rather have, taking a piece with hit you don't need because it's otherwise a huge upgrade or taking an item with hit you don't need that you can reforge out of? a little over hit cap is way better than having the alternative. there's more but those are my favorite.

[@nirvanna21]

Honestly, I just want account wide reputation/quests completed.

[@cosmicwonderer6269]

They said they are doing this next xpac iirc

[@dracotoy]

Starting next expac they are gonna work backwards and eventually make every single rep in the game account wide

[@TheKobasen]

Isnt reforging exsist because of hit rating and expertise stat that goes unneeded beyond certain point? 8/17% hit rating and 26 expertise.

[@drakecamorra1202]

Probably not related to any of the points mentioned here. Nor do I know If this ever existed to begin with. But a nice thing to see happen, Especially for the RP folk and those that seem to get a kick out of playing the hero. ((ME!)) Is to make Solocraft specific servers where yes you have other players walking around n such. But if you wish to solo a dungeon/raid or other form of content without getting your arse completely wiped. I think it would be a grand Idea to make realm's specified to that style of gameplay. My Idea is to either lower the difficulty of instances and world bosses to a Soloable yet challenging degree. But then again also to a degree that if you are decently geared and know a right enough rotation of spells and abilities that it could be a walk in the park if you wanted it to be. I always felt that that was lacking from the original game. AND don't get me wrong. I loved the olden days. Where you had to meet up with random people for dungeons and had some social interaction through that. but yh... A man can dream I guess xD

[@thepsychomagus]

Personal loot was kinda crap since a DPS warrior could end up getting a Tank piece a tank needed and since they dont let you swap a piece that is an upgrade for you the tank was shit out of luck.

[@BathrobeKeck]

3 man dcenarios NEED a comeback

[@patrickwilkerson1728]

Most of these systems were borrowed power systems. As the expansion ended the system would go away, As Blizzard wanted characters to be weak at the start of the new expansion. As example of Artifact weapon from Legion, I know many players were saying that would keep their Legion Artifact gear even in a new expansion with higher i-level, because the Artifact is much stronger with all of the effects.

[@WorentFelix]

I rather preferred that the classic RPG return that meant in WoW in stats, that is, that the 3 classes had the 3 main stats of Int, Str and Agi as long as depending on their class and spec one of the 3 is the main and greatest value, but that it has all 3 as it was in the beginning.

[@jenihansen7201]

Thank you. Love this info.

[@jjd-lx5vr]

I loved how the Legiondaries could totally change your class. The Druid star surge one was difficult to maximize but when you got the rotation down it was amazing.

[@juviachan9963]

I miss personal loot somewhat, but it was at least more "fair" than the current system. You join HC raid and a random bis geared prick rolls need on everything he is able to and is so damn lucky and gets everything. you leave a 9/9 cleared raid with nothing than the time wasted to show for. Also miss legendary items you have to work for. Currently, the legendaries from raid you need luck. Even with bad luck protection with Fyrralak, my Paladin friend does not have it. And you have troubles to get invites for higher M+ keys if you don't have the legendary.

[@thewalrus45]

I cant not miss Corruption as a Destro lock main, 85% base haste machine gunning Chaos Bolts was too cool. And then VoP summoning tons of Infernals as I did this, good t imes. BFA is strange to look back on cause in retrospect it had a lot of great content and the systems added post launch were good. It was just all let down by Azerite Armor being a poor system and some weird plot choices. But I definitely look back on it more fondly in retrospect and I enjoy whenever it's dungeons pop up in M+. Legiondaries are a weird one cause I think them at launch was AWFUL like possibly the worst system ever with how your character could be pretty much bricked if RNG fucked you, but they fixed it up a bunch as the patches went on.

[@empire0]

GDKP is poison on classic servers

[@Engar92]

Unique pets with varying abilities and attack speeds.

[@thancrus]

the artifact weapon was a brilliant concept to begin with because it removes the competition for weapons

[@johnlinks]

This doesn't really exist anymore. You can make weapons with sparks

[@Barsee23]

I disagree because it was boring to use the same weapon and never get anything different, also removed a lot of the fun/excitement of getting a new one

[@nameofthegame9664]

The competition was the glue that held the guilds together. The reason you raided week after week was the hope that weapon or gear you’ve been eyeing for so long would drop and you could finally spend some well earned DKP.

[@MoonTurky]

​@@Barsee23If only it wasnt for the fact like 80% of artifact skins where just re colors (A blizzard classic, if i may say). It would of been so much better if all what? 16 artifact appearences where atleast unique and not 3/4 recolors imo

[@probionekenobi1978]

The problem with personal loot is you can go days if not weeks without getting a single drop in dungeons….group loot is far superior

[@lazytitan7479]

Reforging,Personal Loot,Rep tabards and removed content from old expansions... SOOOO much content that has been removed should be brought back for casuals to have fun with and collect Tmogs and mounts from, just add a Bronze Dragon NPC to go back intime to access that content like in Arathi Highlands, Tirisfall Glades and Silithus

[@Ecodream]

Aren't the new delves basically scenarios?

[@harkenrebirth]

Reforging was a very good system. And it would work in modern wow. Considering how many pieces of gear just arent bis for many specs and classes. Even with the great vault. Sometimes loot just doesnt drop. Reforging just is a good thing. You take the example of Fyralath. The current 2 hander legendary.. Its stats are Crit and Haste. But is that the best stats for Both specs of Warriors? For arms and fury? Maybe not. Is it the best stats for all 3 specs of death knight. Frost, unholy and Blood. Maybe not. Is it the best stats for a Retribution paladin? Maybe not. But. it would be if you could change one of the stats into mastery. So you have all 3 stats. Not just those 2. Or why not more Versatility.

[@42GELO42]

The 'S' sounds in your words are way too loud, you should fix your audio.

[@gregjohn1985]

Corruptions were so cool, love them

[@NovusGM]

"Let's make loot immediately usable" was one of the worst decisions ever taken by WoW devs. That one decision killed reforging and amputated jewelcrafting and enchanting. The latter caused a lot of balance issues with professsions that are felt even today. The former added to the dead loot issues that we have today.

[@demoncushion9600]

Idk ANYONE who wants corruptions back. It was litteraly RNG city. Didnt get your falling star? You no raid. Ever. I was SO HAPPY when they got rid of them and I was finally invited to raid again. For context, I raided for weeks and never got falling star.

[@UltimateGamerCC]

when it comes to Artifact Weapons coming back, i'd just want them to come back with more customizations and have them grow in ilvl with you as you level, much like Heirlooms but without the bonuses and more customizable, there could even be new Class Quests to obtain them, rather than them randomly drop.

[@TheDragonhawkKnights]

OMG the old school class quests from vanilla through wrath were amazing!!! I got the blood tempered ranseur for my blood elf paladin, then they removed the quest line at cata launch...... They should totally bring back class quests!!

[@UltimateGamerCC]

yes, Class Quests and Quest Chains should be in the game, which can give us Cosmetic rewards.@@TheDragonhawkKnights

[@JFKeNn3dy]

Legendaries and garrisons were my top favorites.

[@cammykins5813]

What I’d love to return: actually viable Hunter Pets!