Top 10 Rules Questions Answered [Lorcana TFC]

Join Spencer as he walks you through the most common rules questions in Lorcana!
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[@glimmergangpod]

Official Rules FAQ cdn.ravensburger.com/lorcana/set-notes-1

[@boardgamepirates]

Interesting! Didn’t know that when shifting, you could use the new character immediately without „drying“! (as long as the old character wasn’t exhausted)

[@bakermitchell6209]

Great video! As a TCG/CCG novice (just a basic understanding of MtG), I greatly appreciate this video. After playing two, 3 person games this weekend....several of these questions came up and great to see them answered! Please keep making videos like this, becasuse I'm sure more questions will arise, and when the "Second Chapter" is released.....even more! Also, this is the only place I've seen these rules explained with such clarity.

[@glimmergangpod]

Thank you for the comment. I'm so glad you found it helpful :)

[@BrianTomihama]

This was great. Played in a draft last night and A LOT of these questions came up. They ruled correctly in most cases for me so I feel better. The Detective Mickey one not looking at the inked card is something that people have a hard time with.

[@Deadlad69]

Yeah I had to correct like 5 people already that they CANNOT look at ink.

[@VaudevillainGaming]

Good video on the intricacies of the rules that may not be obvious. Great job!

[@Joker-Kevin]

That Video is essential !!! thanks for the summary and keep up the good work

[@natz117]

This is the most helpful Lorcana video I have watched. Thank you.

[@jasonhall4437]

Nothing much to say here except that this is a super efficient helpful video and KUDOS! New to game and this helped a ton quickly.

[@MrEScience]

Thank you! Even my LGS staff was unsure if I could/had to reveal my cards put into the inkwell from cards like one jump ahead. I figured it would be a nice advantage to know what I was losing, but its fair that I cant as ramping is pretty powerful in this game.

[@FindingTheMagic55]

Super helpful, very specific! 👍🏻

[@erickmain]

Bwhahahaha “afraid of pineapple on pizza”!! 😂 first time watching you and totally gonna subscribe!! Love this kind of content!

[@LLLorcanaKatie]

Thank you for this video!!

[@weshapenations]

Great vid for rules. One thing to confirm for the inking not being public knowledge section. A card you are playing into your inkwell on your turn does need to be shown to your opponent correct? Otherwise what's to stop someone from inking an unsinkable card.

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes! It does need to be revealed

[@mjrausch]

So I disagree.. they kind of ARE public information.. I guess you just mean neither player can view those cards once inked.

[@glimmergangpod]

@@mjrausch yes, that was the intention. The amount of ink, as well as the card as it's revealed, is definitely public

[@tonyinc9002]

And here I thought this was gonna be a walk in the park. As someone coming from yugioh: targeting, missing timing, multiple phases/game states, etc all sound like they found a place in Lorcana. Exited to see the game develop as more sets come out!

[@metakenezzar970]

I currently play competitive Yugioh and i am so sick of this pos game, is Lorcana fun for a Yugioh player??

[@glimmergangpod]

@@metakenezzar970 I haven't played YuGiOh since like Base set, so can't comment lol The game is definitely fun and worth trying out. If you have a local scene, ask for a demo. If not, there are multiple online options.

[@metakenezzar970]

@@glimmergangpod Thank you!

[@CodeRedDamax]

I’ll be so mad if Lorcana becomes like yugioh. Getting to activate effects on your opponents turn is super annoying

[@franalations]

Great vid! Thx

[@iraydiaz5888]

Great video, Great explanation. As friendly as possible, advice, I would recommend that if you're talking about a specific card to show that card on screen.

[@glimmergangpod]

For sure! This was a quick and dirty video tbh, but as my editing skills get better, I'm looking to improve on that aspect

[@darcytrafalgar3340]

If player 1 has 7 cost Doctor Facilier is in play and they challenge and banish player 2's Cheshire Cat with another character. That character would be banished by Cheshire Cat's ability. They would technically be still "in a challenge" so would Dr Facilier's effect work?

[@glimmergangpod]

YES!

[@Kolat_Informant]

When did we get confirmation on the Kuzco & Cheshire Cat ability being able to destroy characters with Ward?

[@Cleansweep38]

2:14 Drying: Actually, the “Bodyguard“ ability, does break the Drying rule. They may come in exerted to activate their “Bodyguard “ ability.

[@glimmergangpod]

Technically it does not because it comes into play exerted, it does not enter play and then exert Regardless the TCG rule of specific beats general always applies (such as Rush)

[@Cleansweep38]

But you do get to choose whether or not to use the ability as it enters.

[@glimmergangpod]

@@Cleansweep38 correct

[@DarthSaiko]

If its my turn can i activate say dinglehopper in response to damage being taken after damage is assigned and before checking for creature death goes on the stack thus, saving my character? Sorry I am a MTG player, I am just curious if I Can do combat tricks in response. I know I can't do things like that on an opponent's turn

[@solarisdevorak]

So your own character with Ward can also not be chosen by yourself if it's a chosen card?

[@racecarbmw88]

In a 3 player game, can you challenge any rested character or only ones the player to the left controls?

[@timjones2227]

There's an 8 drop green genie. It says when attacks play a 5 drop action. Would steal from the rich trigger it's lore drain effect if genie plays it here. Sorry for the weird jargon I'm a mtg player.

[@glimmergangpod]

I actually got a chance to ask this exact question to Steve at GenCon. The answer is No as the trigger event for SFtR has passed

[@epsech]

Really great overview! Question, do Triggers use the Stack like they do in Magic? For example, you play a song and Dr. Facilier triggers. Do you resolve Dr. Facilier’s trigger first (as you would with Magic), or second (because it happened second)

[@glimmergangpod]

There is no stack, so the Song must resolve before any other triggers happen.

[@glimmergangpod]

@@aimlessjames8939 We have it straight from the devs that Songs must resolve before other triggers activate Same timing as necklace mushureport.com/card-news-ursulas-shell-necklace/

[@25penguin25]

if a character with bodyguard is played, exerted and then readied, is it still drying?

[@JustinHinzMagic]

Can a character have negative attack ? That maximus card that does -2 on a target character. if you drop opponents hook card would hooks damage stat would be -1 or 0? Because when he gets challenged he gets the +2 attack stat.

[@glimmergangpod]

Couple of things here. Maximus' effect ends at the end of your turn and Hooks only works on your opponents, so they don't interact (with current card pool). Now, assuming that they did, Strength can't go below 0, but all status effects are cumulative, not sequential. So you would end up with 1-2+2= 1, not 1-2=0+2=2

[@JAG19d]

When would resolution priority matter since you cant respond to anything?

[@chrisbarrand6090]

Does a character that is banished in a challenge and meets its trigger still trigger ( I.e does it need to be on the field to activate? ) Best example is can give is Tinkerbell, giant fairy is banished in challenge, but also banishes the other character. Does its effect to deal 2 damage activate?

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes, the effect still goes off

[@hugh1885]

Hey there! Quick question about challenging. If the challenger is using two characters to attack one of the challengees, does the challengees strength stay the same for both challengers? E.g. Jasper and Horace are attacking Simba (who has a 4 strength). Does Simba get to use his 4 strength for both challengers?

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes!

[@polhamus32]

Can I target a character during a challenge to remove damage counters before it is banished? Using a dinglehopper or a song from my hand?

[@glimmergangpod]

No, there are no instant speed actions in this game, so you can not interrupt anything currently happening, outside of triggers (which happen "within" that game state). I should have also mentioned that the game state can not be interrupted in the General Rules. Thanks for the question.

[@erikadibble6966]

When you have a character that states "when you play this character" such as detective mickey, do you get to put ink in your inkwell every turn that detective mickey is on the board? Or is it only the first time you lay him down?

[@glimmergangpod]

The first time you lay it down

[@ricketts0]

Appreciate the overview! Got a question: when a damaged character is returned to your hand, is damage erased from that character when you summon it again?

[@bwebb5019]

Yes. The board state will see that as a “different” card when you play it again.

[@glimmergangpod]

Exactly this

[@misiopuchatek152]

The best way to heal your high cost/damage/quest character late game 😉 If it survives the initial attack of course 😅

[@Lorcana_BigBrainPlays]

If my opponent plays be prepared and I have musketeers banner out and 3 characters with bodyguard on board do I draw 1 card or 3 cards one for each bodyguard

[@glimmergangpod]

3 cards

[@ghostinajar369]

Here I was, trying to learn more about this great game and you bring up the horror of pineapple on pizza? Sir, this is a family channel.

[@glimmergangpod]

It is scary delicious, yes

[@ghostinajar369]

@glimmergangpod Haha! Thank you for answering a lot of questions I had about the game!

[@benjaminschoolcraft4827]

Can you explain the interaction between Marshmallow and Cheshire which trigger has priority and why?

[@glimmergangpod]

It's not a question of priority, but whether Cat's effect falls within the window of Marshmallows 's effect, which it does. The Challenge doesn't end until all effects are resolved, thus Marshmallow is banished while in a challenge and would return to hand.

[@TokenEdgewater]

if a player exerts mother gothel, so all other characters can not quest in multiplayer, during the next players turn, that character is challenged and banished, are all characters still in play for the rest of that players and the players still waiting their turns characters still unable to quest until the main players turn again? Or does banishing mother gothel release that condition the moment she is banished and everyone else can quest when its their turn?

[@glimmergangpod]

As soon as Mother Gothel is no longer exerted, her ability ceases to be in effect So, if she is removed from play (Banished, Bounced, Inked) or even just Readied by Fan the Flames, etc, your opponent(s) may Quest

[@Michael-fl9dv]

I had a constructed question come up about Support. If I have two Scepter of Arendelle, and use the both to give a character support. Would that be two separate instances of support triggering at the same time or just one? My only reference was to MtG where you can have multiple instances of the same keywords.

[@glimmergangpod]

In Lorcana, a card can't have the same ability more than once, so you can't give the same card Support twice. Though we have gotten confirmation that Challenger stacks

[@Michael-fl9dv]

@@glimmergangpod So to be clear, a character can have multiple instances of challenger +2, but not of support?

[@glimmergangpod]

@@Michael-fl9dv Correct, though technically, any additional instances of Challenger add onto the first one. So give a Character with Challenger 2 another Challenger 1 and it becomes Challenger 3

[@MalcomJones]

On inking - when you ink your card you have to show your opponent right? The section is a bit confusing as it only seems to discuss Inking effects of cards.

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes, it must be revealed

[@intrepion256]

Wait, I’m confused. If I am the active player in a multiplayer and I play an action that affects multiple players like Be Prepared, do I choose the order or is it based on turn order? I feel like that can change the game a lot if there are on-banish effects

[@glimmergangpod]

For Be Prepared, all characters would be banished at the same time

[@intrepion256]

@@glimmergangpod I guess the part I'm confused about is 0:27 you say active player gets to choose resolution order, but then you also say it is based on turn order and I don't really see how those two statements are compatible.

[@laucian2100]

​@intrepion256 resolution order of effects that happen. If you had multiple on banish triggers go off at the same time you could pick which one happens first. The other scenario would be for something like A Whole New World. Active player would draw their 7 new cards first then it would progress around the table clockwise. It could matter if players all have less than 7 cards in deck to determine a winner

[@intrepion256]

@@laucian2100so what you are saying is that the card’s effects resolve in turn order, but the active player chooses the order of the triggered effects for each resolution. Am I understanding that correctly?

[@laucian2100]

@@intrepion256 yes whenever actions are required by players from a card they happen in turn order. When triggered you get to choose

[@misiopuchatek152]

1:43 As for drying. Not exactly true. You can exert a character that it is drying. Bodyguard can actually enter the field exerted. So technically that should be mentioned as well 😉

[@mattbasham7310]

? Dose the ability RUSH only allow to challenge or can it RUSH to Quest instead?

[@glimmergangpod]

Only Challenge

[@soundtcg7682]

Do characters challenge one at a time or can multiple characters challenge a single character at the same time?

[@glimmergangpod]

One at a time

[@marcodavi777]

I am still confused at 7:40 , when you talk about song and dr facilier (cost 3). He says: when you play a song, which somehow to me is not connecting with a song having to be fully resolved before counting as played. so, does dr facilier trigger before or after the song is resolved? or is it a simultaneous effect situation?

[@glimmergangpod]

After the Song resolves. Basically there is no trigger window for an Action/Song. Resolving the effect IS playing it and the game state can't be interrupted. So, until the effect resolves, it hasn't been played

[@marcodavi777]

Awesome, thanks. Do you know if there is already an faq database, something like arkhamdb or marveldb? I can't really find much, and stuff like the challenge timing diagram would be nice to have. and btw (and sorry for the ignorance) how did you find these clarifications? are you involved with lorcana directly?

[@glimmergangpod]

@@marcodavi777 Comprehensive rules or FAQs have not been released yet. Rulings have come from a variety of places such as Twitter, Discord, and speaking to the Devs in person. I've just been very involved in keeping up to date on these things, but Mushu Report, which I have linked in the description is doing their best to compile them.

[@brianrosas5451]

Can you gang up on other opponents if you see that they are going to win?

[@StarMighty.]

Does challenger activate when you are challenging the other player and challenged by the other player Or Only when you are challenging the other player

[@glimmergangpod]

Only when that Character initiates the Challenge

[@jpram901]

Is the inking rule that you don’t show?

[@edelplays]

3:30 I have a question: you said that inked cards are not public knowledge, but when me or my oponent are going to ink a card from hand on the turn, we have to show what card are we inkin, right?

[@glimmergangpod]

Correct. I'm going to see if I can put in an edit there. The card must be revealed. Once it is in the Inkwell, then it is no longer public

[@edelplays]

@@glimmergangpod oh, thanks! Because I was already worried that this was a huge problem if you didn't have to show. Imagine the amount of cheaters inking uninkable cards...

[@CeltusKasady]

nice video, where can I download the compressive rules for organized play?

[@glimmergangpod]

They have not been released yet. Rulings have come from a variety of places such as Twitter, Discord, and speaking to the Devs in person, hence why I hoped this would be helpful. Hopefully we get the comp rules soon.

[@CeltusKasady]

@@glimmergangpod it is thank you!!!

[@gabrielfeijo889]

I have a question: when you shift a character on top of a character that has a "when you play this character" effect, does playing the shift activates the effect?

[@glimmergangpod]

No. As soon as you Shift, the text on the old card ceases to exist

[@gabrielfeijo889]

@@glimmergangpod but I heard that the effects of the original characters transfers to the shift chatacter

[@glimmergangpod]

@@gabrielfeijo889 The status of the original card persists, so damage, dry, if it was given Reckless or Puppy Napped, etc The text of the original card is overwritten by the new card Anything innate to the original card goes away Anything that it was "given" stays

[@skulphire3679]

Is there a maximum for how many characters one player can control at once?

[@glimmergangpod]

No

[@pcguru3096]

I didn't see this in the rules what happens if you run out of cards in your deck?

[@glimmergangpod]

If you would draw and you don't have a card to draw, you lose the game

[@NameIsLuid]

Can you shift onto the same card ? for example - When I shift Tinker Bell Giant Fairy onto Tinker Bell Tiny Tactician can I then play Giant Fairy onto another Giant Fairy ?

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes. All Shift cares about is the name, not sub-name

[@daniellebackus819]

Why would you want to do that?

[@NameIsLuid]

@@daniellebackus819 With Blue Hades that send characters to the inkwell for a good example. Everything underneath have to follow the leader meaning 3 extra ink next turn. It could be a play if you are low on ink and you have enough to shift for 4 to get that extra 1 damage and everything then swing because the ink is dry. There are loads of different ways and reasons that you could play the same card on top of another.

[@americonartist]

Can you please post the official rules from Ravensburger?

[@glimmergangpod]

Comprehensive rules have not been released yet. Rulings have come from a variety of places such as Twitter, Discord, and speaking to the Devs in person, hence why I hoped this would be helpful. Hopefully we get the comp rules soon.

[@AngelofHell1311]

Hi I have a question about the big Facilier: let's say I have two of them on the board and my opponent uses Be Prepared how do they resolve, i.e. Do both Facilier go to hand or only one

[@glimmergangpod]

Neither because Big Facilier requires your cards to be banished "in a challenge"

[@AngelofHell1311]

@@glimmergangpod lol reading is hard 😂 but let's say it actually would trigger their ability how would they resolve (just curious if there is already something on this topic)

[@glimmergangpod]

@@AngelofHell1311 that's a good question. We haven't had a definitive ruling, but I would assume that Be Prepared counts as a simultaneous effect and that you choose what order your Characters are Banished, which would end up with only one going to hand

[@AngelofHell1311]

@@glimmergangpod makes sense thx for your insight 😁

[@TheMonstro92]

So this is great and I don’t think you talked about it but do the shifted characters gain the lore gathering as well? I.E Jasmine disguised gets 2 lore when they quest and Jasmine queen of Agrabah gets 2 as well does that mean that Jasmine when shifted into queen Jasmine gains 4 lore when questing?

[@DixonCiderr]

No. When you shift it counts as one character. You put the damage counter on the shifted character from underneath character. The character underneath goes where shifted player goes. So if shifted character gets bounced to hand, character underneath would go to hand too

[@glimmergangpod]

No, the top Character inherits the status effects present, but otherwise overwrites/replaces the bottom character

[@TheMonstro92]

@@glimmergangpod But in the companion app it specified that the shifted character gain the abilities of its previous form. Example you use wizard Mickey to evolve into the rogue, Mickey, the brooms ability carries over to the rogue, Mickey.

[@glimmergangpod]

@@TheMonstro92 it does not. The companion app is poorly worded. It has all the rules of the character you just played. It does not keep the rules of the previous card.

[@berzerk130]

1. If you have characters stacked from being shifted, and there's a Faciler on board, do they both go back to the hand when the top one dies, or just the top one? 2. Do effects that state "When this character defeats another character in a challenge" Like Te Ka for example, activate when it's BEING challenged too, or just when it initiates the challenge?

[@glimmergangpod]

1. Both 2. It technically works both ways, BUT each card with that effect currently specifies "during your turn", so until we gain some kind of forced Challenge effect, no

[@deacon7519]

How would I know that my opponent is not cheating if they do not reveal to me the card when they put it in the inkwell? From what I understand, only cards with the correct symbol can be placed in the inkwell? So how do I know they don't lie?

[@deacon7519]

Actually, I answered my own question by looking up the rules from the official website. You should check that out as well or change your verbiage

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes, the intention was that once cards are inside the Inkwell, they are no longer public knowledge. The rules clearly state that they must be revealed.

[@randomandy2023]

I think you just created some more questions for me..

[@glimmergangpod]

Happy to help work through any questions you may have.

[@nicolasschaefer1615]

Can you use remaining ink after challenging?!

[@glimmergangpod]

Yes. You can do your turn in whatever order you choose. There are no "phases"

[@nicolasschaefer1615]

@@glimmergangpod awesome! Thanks 😊

[@hmgaming283]

Do shifted card abilities stack?

[@glimmergangpod]

As in, do they keep the attributes or abilities from the base card? No

[@hmgaming283]

@@glimmergangpod from the base card

[@TimothyCopeland]

I don't understand action. If you have ink available to play an action say return character to its owner's hand and you have the three ink to play it why wouldn't you be able to play it during your opponent's turn

[@glimmergangpod]

Because you aren't allowed to play cards on your opponent's turn

[@chrisbarrand6090]

The entire game is ( for a magic the gathering term ) at sorcery speed

[@Luenox]

Dang! let it go/7drop hades a shifted character turning into 2 ink is wild, that makes the cost of using that removal on shifted characters hard to say its worth while 😅,

[@Luenox]

Like having a character that counts as 1 card in the field become two ink when it enters the ink well is a bit busted in my book 📚

[@boardgamepirates]

Question about Elsa - Spirit of Winter: It says that I can exert two opposing characters which won’t be readied at the beginning of the opponent’s turn. What if the opponent’s characters are all exerted at the time when I play Elsa (because he exerted them during his turn)? Can I still pick them for Elsa’s ability, so that they won’t be readied at the beginning of my opponent’s next turn? Or can I only pick characters which are not exerted at the moment I play the Elsa card? (i.e. characters which my opponent did not exert during his last turn)

[@glimmergangpod]

You can choose exerted Characters and they won't Ready next turn

[@boardgamepirates]

@@glimmergangpod Thanks!

[@tarbarik9754]

It should change soon

[@glimmergangpod]

What could change?

[@tarbarik9754]

using action as instant speed and decks not limited to 2 colors @@glimmergangpod

[@glimmergangpod]

@@tarbarik9754 Doubtful. They seem to be pretty core game mechanics, but anything could happen.