Top 10 Tactical RPGs of All Time

[@Brianhasaface]

To anyone who hasn't tried it. I highly recommend Jeanne d'Arc for psp. Was super fun.

[@Mintcar923]

It really should have made this list.. I’m surprised an XCom made it being it’s considered straight up strategy.. Still great.. Dunno about game entries but Fire Emblem and Valkyria Chronicles are definitely the top two franchises.. However, Triangle Strategy appears to be the start of something special..

[@kko9303]

That's my favourite, the first one I played and the only tactics rpg that I finished, tried some of the old titles listed here but didnt scratch the itch. I wanted to specify the things I mostly liked but everything about it is just so well made. Hope Level 5 release a new entry with similar systems or a remastered version of it. For now Im looking to try FE Three Houses.

[@christianyumang1528]

Jeanne D’Arc is highly underrated.. love that game

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

@@Mintcar923 Triangle Strategy is the continuation of something special. In fact, it's based off of the Tactics Ogre LUCT game on this same list. The similarities are many

[@StephonST]

I thoroughly enjoyed it!

[@nikkitirta2614]

Yes, FF Tactics is a beautiful game IMO. Deep story, a vast variety of characters, jobs, and fun game mechanics. Such a memorable game.

[@tradnux5848]

It feels as though you described Triangle Strategy, you should try it. I think it's about to become one of the best tbs game of all time that has Tactics Ogre and Final Fantasy Tactics DNA on it.

[@Suicoo]

it's beatiful but i couldn't overcome the "you have to move, end your move and then you can look, what you can do from here" when coming from ffta i hope they address this in a possible re-release... but is this just me?

[@flash_channel2161]

Final Fantasy Tactics will always have a place in my heart🥰❤

[@nicksanchez8294]

I’m surprised that Advance Wars isn’t on here! 1+2 Reboot Camp is my most anticipated game of the year. Great list though!

[@NinjaRunningWild]

That’s not a RPG. The tactics, borrowing largely from Daisenryaku series before Famicom Wars was released, were extremely good though. Look up Daisenryaku 7 & Perfect 4.0.

[@ApothercyCold]

I'm sad it got pushed back.

[@medmuscle]

@@ApothercyCold Yep. It's BS too. Literally NO ONE would be offended by releasing it despite the war overseas. These companies always pander to the dumbest people on earth or people that barely exist.

[@vivapedro750]

This is a great list Ronny and a good video. I was pleasantly surprised to see the thought and quality put into this. Haven’t watched anything IGN in a while due to falling quality, lack of enthusiasm and effort, and just an overall absence of common sense. It was a pleasant surprise to see IGN pick the obvious for number one on the list. I was half expecting to see some strange never heard of TRPG top the list for the “hey, look at us and our shock value artsy with deep critic over analyzation of a never heard of game” pick. So thanks for doing it right. What I find really amazing about FFT is how after all this time and advancements made on gaming systems, it still easily holds the number one spot so much so, that the true competition is really for the number two spot. I would definitely love a remake or something new truly worthy of a challenge for number one.

[@shaneedgeworth4511]

Doesn’t Divinity Original Sin 2 count as a tactical RPG? If so it would be top of my list.

[@maxducoudray]

Tactical RPGs are more than just turn-based. They are completely battle-focused. They can have story scenes in between battles, but usually do not have world exploration and freeform NPC interactions. D:OS2 is a full RPG.

[@shingnosis]

@@maxducoudray If so I don't think The Banner Saga qualifies as a Tactical RPG.

[@maxducoudray]

@@shingnosis You may be right about that. I haven't played it myself.

[@loganholmberg2295]

In a way it is but stretegy RPGs are usually games where you control "armies" that fight on vast game boards. Yes they can have exploration as seen in some games like shinning force and Dragon Force but Divinty is more like a regular RPG with a "turn" based fighting and movement system. Its allot more focused on exploration and NPC interaction then most tactical rpgs.

[@shingnosis]

@@loganholmberg2295 I'd probably agree that DOS2 is a "turn-based RPG" rather than a "tactical RPG". Although the lines do blur.

[@Afr0Punk]

I've always been more partial to the original FFT release over War of the Lions but regardless FFT is definitely a masterpiece.

[@davidhamid8025]

Try Triangle Strategy

[@Afr0Punk]

@@davidhamid8025 I have Triangle Strategy, it's a good game but IMO not on the same level as FFT (or Tactics Ogre).

[@davidhamid8025]

@@Afr0Punk huh. I played FFT for NDS back in the day and absolutely loved it. I would like to see both FFT games come to switch. What did you think of Triangle Strategy - spoiler free? I’m about 15 hours in now

[@bufosp]

@@davidhamid8025 i think what you played was final fantasy tactics advance. they're not even close to the predecessor. try FFT on android or any emulators. and you can see yourself which one is better, tristrat or FFT. for me personally, TS is pretty good but doesn't even come close to FFT.

[@davidhamid8025]

@@bufosp Hmm you’re right. FFTA. Was a different game than FFT? I thought they just added advanced to the title. Have you played War of the lions or Grimoire of the Rift? They should release those games on switch. I’ll never get to play them.

[@Flareboxx]

I understand Triangle Strategy is new, but that doesn't mean it can't be one of, if not the best. Number 9 was WAY too low.

[@loveandwar007]

It will cement its staying power in time

[@kleberson777]

just like person above me said, people will recognize Triangle Strategy over time. Just like FFXII back then.

[@Andrew-jt8bg]

Tactics Ogre is probably the best game on this list (to me) and the predecessor "Ogre Battle: March of the Black Queen" from the SNES is one of my favorite games of all time

[@NotThatBob]

Bothe F.E.T.H. and V.C.4 are amazing games. The stories really pull at the heart strings.

[@khango6138]

IGN, this is a good video, however it is a bit disappointing that small KZbin creators have implemented the chapter feature in their video for easy reference, but IGN with so much more time and resources don't. This video would be perfect for it, each game a chapter, so the audience can quickly find the referenced materials, for example when they go to find the games to play, instead of having to watch the entire video or manually skip through to where they want to see.

[@ravell-sama]

0:35 - othercide (10) 1:33 - Triangle Strategy (9) 2:22 - Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (8) 3:30 - The Banner Saga (7) 4:49 - Valkyria Chronicles (6) 5:42 - Disgaea 5 (5) 6:36 - Fire Emblem: Three Houses (4) 7:39 - Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together (3) 8:35 - XCOM 2 (2) 9:31 - Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions (1)

[@VesperAegis]

Nothing from the Advance Wars series is a true tragedy here, as well as the pick of Disgaea 5 over Disgaea 2. Also Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn was superior as a sequel, and Fire Emblem Awakening easily deserves the spot over Three Houses.

[@jeffbezos3200]

Please take three houses off this list…I love that game, but the partner system is still broken…put Byleth in the tile next to the house leader and win, even on hard mode classic

[@soulreaperx7x]

@@jeffbezos3200 I mean to be fair, this is just random peoples opinions. You shouldn't take these game site's lists to heart. For example I prefer Gears Tactics over XCOM myself. Also Metal Gear Ac!d 2 was an awesome under appreciated gem that will never be on anyones top 10 tactics game other than mine lol.

[@jimjim5491]

#1 best Jagged Alliance 2........nothing else comes close, played them all....runner up Age of Wonders Shadow Magic and Heroes of Might and Magic 3

[@VesperAegis]

@@jimjim5491 I don't fully agree with Jagged Alliance 2, but HOMM3 is sorely missing from the list. A universal classic.

[@thehotroc1]

Maybe I’m being biased but what about Shining Force. That’s what got me into this entire genre.

[@danielshinogure5165]

Me too Shining Force III (SEGA Saturn) it's my favorite tactical RPG

[@redmanp11]

You are not! Claiming that this a greatest of all time! and not including the OG founding games likes Shining Force, Ogre Tactics, Front Mission, Langrisser (aka Warsong), Super Robot Wars and Vandal Hearts. Hell even the RARE one offs like Kardia and Saiyuki Journey of the West were ideas and inspirations for several of these on this list

[@TUTOnboutin]

@@redmanp11 When you are about to write a comment, but the guy before just wrote it for you. Totally agree. Into the genre since Shining force II. The biggest let down for me is FE3H, I bought a switch for that... So much potential, incredible cut scene and story, but i got so tired to play fedex for all the character to get their stuff between the battles.

[@redmanp11]

@@TUTOnboutin I almost forgot the Project X Zone games on DS OMG why weren't even one of them was on this list. Tactics RPG Crossover with FAN favorites from Street Fighter, Tekken, Dead rising, Valkyrie Chronicles, Darkstalkers, Resident Evil, Sakura Wars, Shining Force 3, and Tales of Vesperia games fighting together in team units.

[@rafarod9843]

Absolutely. Shining Force is really endearing. It also got mi into the genre.

[@LeandroSilva-oi8uw]

Vandal Hearts is amazing! Deserved to be on the list.

[@Adallace]

Is that available on any modern platforms or do you need old hardware or to emulate it?

[@adamapple8638]

​@@Adallacei think its only on PSX, so emulation is probably your best bet

[@thehatwithfunnynames]

Fell Seal: Arbiter’s Mark is a really good game that was inspired by FFT. Having said that, my favourite tactics game: Vandal Hearts, Fell Seal, Triangle Strategy and FFT:WOTL. SquareEnix or Sony - Please make a new FFT for PS5! 🙏🙏

[@jackhoff7880]

Agreed! Vandal hearts is an all time classic. Wish the game were a bit longer though

[@alexvanderpool88]

Fell Seal was soooo good! I didn't stop until I got the platinum trophy on PS for it.

[@Jimmy-qx7sf]

Agreed. Fell Seal is very underrated.

[@Nova04550]

Fell Seal is amazing and made by a husband wife team!

[@syraphimgaming6281]

Really solid indy game. Using the Steam workshop added some really fun classes as well.

[@Cragnous]

My favorite is Front Mission 3. Can't wait for the 1 and 2 remake!

[@joe_flieder8046]

Ogre Battle 64 introduced me to TRPGs and has always a special place in my gamer heart

[@jerrygomez3825]

The best, but it seems they went with grid-turn-based-tactical RPGs. I do prefer the ogre battle games

[@ValeVin]

For some reason, I always thought the Ogre Battle games were SRPGs and the Tactics Ogre games were TRPGs, so maybe they're drawing that distinction? OB64 is a lot of fun, though. Like... there are parts of OB:MotBQ I really love, but when it comes to which one I'd rather be playing, it's OB64 over OB:SNES any day.

[@zakunick1]

Ogre Battle 64 is my all time favorite game. It was my first tactical RPG.

[@hamar5790]

Tactics ogre should be released on other platforms. It's a gem

[@grizzlybearking1878]

Its in the geo force leaks. Its coming.

[@Atlanta4Ever]

Hell yeah I just bought it on the Vita a few weeks ago because I heard how good it was. I’m not gonna lie, it’s a strain on the eyes on that small screen. Hopefully the leaks of a remake are true.

[@ThaMobstarr]

@@Atlanta4Ever The PS Vita still has an open eshop? Interesting lol!

[@zakunick1]

@@grizzlybearking1878 What are these leaks?

[@Elyoki]

@@zakunick1 a possible re-release or new game. marked "reborn"

[@richardnobrega6769]

The fact that Shining Force or Shining Force 2 didn't make a list of top Tactical RPG's is just plain criminal.

[@evolust]

It is a diverse list and it's nice to see the genre given a place in the sun. However, where is Shining Force. Political intrigue, great maps, excellent music, easy to get into battle system. It should be at least in the top 5.

[@MrVisde]

Agreed. Shining Force was my first experience with a tactical RPG. Great game!

[@pranakhan]

Yes! such a staple of my childhood. The Sega Genesis game had an ending like 5-7 minutes long, unheard of for the time. An excellent, simple but satisfying TRPG, made with heart

[@fkaiba94]

@@MrVisde I still play it

[@NapoleonSoares]

Yeah I have xcom/tactics ogre/ff tactics/fe3h/shining force top 5. The list is very good outside of missing shining force though, and for a games publication thats usually not the case.

[@mohamedkoblawi4175]

They left so many more deserving games. It's ultimately not important but how the fuck is Banner Saga on here but not Shining Force, Suikoden or SMT: Devil Summoner

[@paulerickson3718]

FF Tactics has been one of my favorite games of all time for years. Triangle Strategy, however, has creeped its way up there and almost overtook it! But not quite!

[@ashtekgaming7527]

only if it had more customization and classes,a pity. Everything else is good though.

[@krisnabadruwijaya2768]

Yeah. I've been playing (finished) tactic ogre luct, ff tactic, and triangle strategy. Compared to the other 2, triangle strategy is more focused on story rather than the classic job/class mechanic. There is no customization on triangle strategy, every character upgrade is just stright up upgrade unique character. The game is just story based literary the story is longer than actual gameplay and grind.

[@Freezaboi]

I really Triangle Strategy 2, hopefully with customization of classes and characters like mentioned above. This could be the next coming of FFT that we are all waiting on…….also xcom3

[@TheRationalPi]

​@@ashtekgaming7527 Personally, I like what dropping the job system did for the game's balance and variety. Don't get me wrong, I love the mixing/matching you can do with FFTactics, but some of the combos are so busted that it makes the rest of the options feel weak in comparison. Triangle Strategy only has one really busted character, and you probably won't even see that one until NG+.

[@ashtekgaming7527]

@@TheRationalPi I agree. i just wanted a bit more non linear progression. Each character being its own class is pretty accepting solution for me. Trying disgaea series for the first time to scratch that itch,heard its similar to fft.

[@rafaelcerveglieri]

I really loved Jeanne D'arc for the PSP

[@ShawneeUnion]

Should be honorable mention

[@cubs252006]

No Shining Force, no Advance Wars? Overall a solid list, but no Shining Force is almost criminal.

[@judgemario]

Agreed.

[@victorhinojos3050]

It's been too long since the last SF and they were good but not groundbreaking they belong somewhere in 11-20 position.

[@littlen8279]

Advance Wars has a very solid gameplay but it's hardly customizable and the story is pretty much irrelevant

[@ThunderMage924]

Advance Wars is one of my favorite game series of all time (and I'm in agreement with most of the list presented here, FFT being my favorite game of all time), but one thing Advance Wars is not is an RPG. It deserves many accolades, but I disagree that top RPG is one of them.

[@user-stanrbm]

And no Vandal Hearts. :-(

[@dankfarrik8376]

Thanks for this. After so many years of zero love I'm happy to see my favorite genre is getting back to it's glory days with new releases and loads of remakes to come. I've played most of the games mentioned on this list but for some reason completely missed Othercide. Definitely going to check it out since it's cheap (and on sale in Asia right now) If anyone else has some good suggestions feel free to reply. Some of mine would be: Front mission series and Phoenix point (it's very buggy though) I really enjoyed Phantom doctrine as well.

[@sethvs6962]

If you haven’t played Fell Seal Arbiters Mark, it should be in the top 3 on this list. You’ll absolutely love every second of it.

[@dankfarrik8376]

@@sethvs6962 its on my radar for sure, just haven’t pulled the trigger yet. Thanks for reminding me about this one!

[@carmelos5672]

Vandal hearts should be on the list if not top 3

[@Afr0Punk]

Vandal Hearts doesn't get enough love.

[@TheBloobster]

It's the first Tactics game I ever played... and nothing has lived up to it to this day.

[@MrVisde]

Love this genre. Great variety to this list. Some honorable mentions: Shining Force, Wargroove, Mario Rabids, and Langrisser

[@verfresht]

I finished Fire Emblem 3H. Which one would you recommend more mario rabbids, wargroove, xcom2?

[@TheRawrnstuff]

@@verfresht XCOM 2, definitely. But for full disclosure, personally I think _XCOM: Enemy Unknown_ (and the _Enemy Within_ expansion) is a more well-thought-out package as a game. Pick Rabbids if you felt 3H was too complex or didn't have enough "zany" stuff. Pick Wargroove if you have friends who you'd like to play against. The game in the genre that I feel is the most unknown/underappreciated is probably _Troubleshooter: Abandoned Children._ You might want to give that one a try. I'd rank it _waaay_ higher than Othercide, that made it to this list.

[@MrVisde]

@@verfresht I’d recommend Wargroove after FE:3H. There’s a lot of fun battles/maps/commanders in that game. Mario Rabids is another fun one and pretty recent game. Battles aren’t as involved as FE or Wargroove, but still a good amount of strategy and planning. I’ve tried getting into Xcom 2 but found it to be too complex.

[@lukegto]

@@verfresht Mario rabbids is easiest to get into and enjoy right away. Xcom 1 is better imo to start xcom 2 builds off of a lot of 1 and for the love of god don’t do war of the chosen first if you do 2. Personally I did not care for wargroove at all. It’s tactical gameplay is more akin to advance wars then fire emblem. All three options are drastically different from FE gameplay though. Triangle strategy is a better choice if you want something more akin to what you just played

[@fgc_roofer_07]

Langrisser 1&2 🚬🗿

[@akiinmoonlight79]

FF Tactics is a timeless masterpiece and one of the best games of all time, it needs a re-release !

[@jonathanjohnson9910]

Nuff said

[@leeartlee915]

I’ve never understood why people find FFT to be the best tactics game of all time. It’s good, great even. But I always found the jobs system to be not very fun. And the story is so cheesy.

[@jbivphotography]

They need to HD-2D remake it!

[@leeartlee915]

@@jbivphotography They likely will. Square Enix is no longer in the business of making new experiences. Only rehashing old ones.

[@fotuto13]

In the meantime play Fell Seal! It's honestly a modern FFT and better than anything on this list.

[@nexikos2.021]

personally final fantasy tactics ADVANCE it's my favorite tactical rpg I have so many memories with this game

[@reefatbakht]

Same. So fun and beautiful

[@rashadreed3672]

No Shining Force?? Wow!!!

[@OldBearby]

I think Final Fantasy Tactics is the "greatest game of all time." Happy to see it at the top of this list of tactical RPGS. Btw, there has been a lot of love for FFT lately on the interwebs (even more than usual); hopefully this leads to a true sequel or faithful remake.

[@ramza8355]

Imagine FF with a combat like the newest FF and a story like FFT... or just remake FFT, I'm sure a lot of FF new fans haven't played FFT yet. Please Square Enix....

[@pla6ue]

@@ramza8355 No. STOP with nearly EVERYTHING being action/real time combat. Needs to be more of a balance.

[@coolguy48457]

Id like to see a Final Fantasy Tactics remake with a Valkyria Chronicles approach to map design, Being able to control units around the map like that would be pretty awesome

[@bbies1973]

The resurge in popularity likely has to do with the mobile re-release.

[@oon3laststando]

Loved valkyria chronicles! … but when I think tactical rpgs my fave is Jeanne d'Arc on psp!

[@SlayerSeraph]

Valkyria Chronicles 4 Truly Deserves a Spot here. It's an Improvement in every way to VC1, felt more Memorable than VC1, the focus on the entire squad characters with individual stories, the main story dynamics and gameplay improvements, made this one of the best Tactical RPGs/Strategy Action games of all time!

[@Marthastewart209.]

exactly

[@blayne888]

I can't believe the Shining Force series isn't on this list. More specifically, Shining Force 2. Still hoping all 3 parts of SF3 get a remake. Also… Othercide might be a good game…. But no where near #10 on the greatest Tactical RPG’s of ALL TIME.

[@MrVariant]

Sega cancelled the mobile shining force and the list is only about popularity lol my gay romance from game dialogue edits between Astral and king Granseal will have a better chance to get 100 views by the end of the month. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hofPdKGAormbfKc

[@FirionFF2]

I was really hoping to see shining force as well! That’s what got me into strategy rpgs as a kid to begin with

[@romanwagner8709]

Triangle Strategy surpassed expectations.

[@philippf5594]

I love Fire Emblem so much, even bought a Wii U only to be able to play Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn 😀 But I was amazed that you even put classics like Tactics Ogre and FF Tactics on the list, good job there! I am really hyped for the remaster of Advance Wars :)

[@DWQMusic]

To be honest, FE is the most classic out of them all

[@jimnowlin8094]

This is my favorite Fire 🔥 Emblem & Radiant Dawn!

[@javi5296]

The ones I've enjoyed the most: Shining Force 2 Wargroove Mario Rabbids

[@UBiKnAtiOn]

Shining Force 2 the one and only

[@javi5296]

Man of culture

[@Luchiop]

agreed...

[@seste87]

This is an underrated comment. I’m glad they gave it it FFT, but not mentioning Shining Force is a mistake.

[@insomniaddictesp]

I’m really surprised it didn’t make the list.

[@therealnatevp]

Shining force 2 should have been here.

[@ES_DCSAVIOR101]

I'm so happy that FFT took the #1 spot on this list. This game is one of my favorite games of all time for me personally. It's challenging, has an amazing story and one of the best soundtracks in the gaming industry. I remembered starting it at the beginning of one of my spring breaks growing and I ended up playing it the whole week and finishing it on the last day. Honestly, one of my fondest memories growing up and it's why FFT will be forever in my top 5 greatest games of all time. If you haven't played it and you think it's too old of a game to try out then I would say I thought the same thing but then I downloaded it again on an emulator and replayed it around 10 years later from my original playthrough and I was pleasantly surprised at how well it has held up over the years. It truly was ahead of it's time and I would absolutely love to see a remake of this game.

[@Alhitch]

Played already like 4 times. Such a great game

[@usaskjock]

the most remarkable thing about its soundtrack is its coherency. All of the tracks manage to be totally distinct while believably sounding like they came from the same world.

[@nrudy]

You should check out Fell Seal Arbiter's Mark. It scratches the FFT itch really well.

[@TheCmurley131]

This is a very good list - Tactics Ogre LUCT is my #1 pick and is one of my favorite games of all time. Some notable runners up for me are Jeanne D'arc and FE8. Vandal Hearts 1 also very good but not a top 10.

[@belllinu9757]

Let us cling together is better than war of the lions I love both but LUCT is such a great game it blows my mind

[@nouashax__]

True, as one who played both. LUCT is just better, the end game content and the story is far better

[@citypunk326]

While FFT is a classic and imo the best "Final Fantasy" of all time (I'm biased of course since I like tactics games the most), TO:LUCT just feels more to me. It is different yet more fleshed out than FFT which is interesting since FFT was inspired by Tactics Ogre, and Matsuno himself led the project. Perhaps Final Fantasy universe and lore was a little limiting than what Ogre Battle universe offered? I dunno.

[@ValeVin]

Have you played Triangle Strategy? I know it gets compared to a lot of TRPGs, but to me, it felt like it was cut from the same cloth as Jeanne d'Arc specifically.

[@nouashax__]

I dont have time to play. Even the octopath traveller, havent touched it yet since I bought it last Christmas. I just keep playing the older games. Ahahaha. . .

[@jasonallen5318]

This list has some solid choices, but there's waaay too many new gen games on here. Not having any Shining Force game seems like a huge whiff, and there's plenty more gems on PS1 alone, like Vandal Hearts, Vanguard Bandits, Saiyuki Journey West, Kartia, Brigandine, Arc the Lad, and more.

[@donnoel2846]

Front Missions 3 was also nice

[@iivarimokelainen]

Saiyuki Journey West is my jam. Finally somebody knows it. Also Eternal Eyes

[@johangp1990]

Damn! Vandal Hearts and Saiyuki are definitely on my top list. Vanguard was very good too.

[@philjay4283]

How has no one mentioned Wild Arms XF? Amazing game!

[@eyeless11550]

shining force OG

[@CBZero]

*Vandal Hearts 2, Brigandine Legend of Forsena, Suikoden Tactics, FF Tactics Advance, Front Mission 3, Arc The Lad, Jeanne d'Arc, Vanguard Bandits

[@jaretco6423]

Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle.

[@jozsefberecz5223]

My list:1.Shining Force 1-2 2.Final Fantasy Tactics 3.Vandal Hearts

[@KLNDR]

All about Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together in this household.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

A true man of culture

[@echsIncognito]

FFT. Could anything else have been number 1? I think not. Still one of my favourite games of all time, if not my number 1. Practically perfect in every way.

[@Alamyst2011]

Tactics Ogre is the superior game

[@maxducoudray]

Shining Force deserves a spot on here rather than devoting two picks to Fire Emblem.

[@loganholmberg2295]

Yep. No Sega representation here. Also I would mind to see Warong/Langrisser and Dragon force make this list. The Original Warsong is such a great game. A deep class system mixed with actually arnies/troops at each characters command. There is a similar system in Dragon force. Ugh this is what happens when you let 20 somethings do "all time" lists. They clearly haven't experienced the whole genre. In this case Sega systems and the wealth of treasures you can find in old PC titles.

[@1georgekitchen]

@@loganholmberg2295 valkria chronicles is Sega, but Dragon Force would require them to do research, and we know they don't.

[@DigitalMorph07]

Shining Force 2 was the first srpg I ever played…back in the mid 90s and it still holds up today. Awesome game

[@delgado9797]

No

[@simpletones4654]

shining force is the original blue print of all tactical rpg, others should kneel down towards shining force

[@nicest75]

Man, I can't believe the original Vandal Hearts didn't make the list. That is a REALLY good game as well. One of my favorites.

[@awesomereviews1561]

The 2nd is arguably better. Way better story, better OST. The first one is more fun though.

[@nicest75]

@@awesomereviews1561 Ok, that's good to hear. I started the second one, but never finished it. It's definitely on my list (very long list) of games I'm going to go back and finish when I get the chance.

[@minhangkhong523]

@@awesomereviews1561 imo i can't get use to the battle system in Vandal heart 2. Two teams moving at the same time are kinda hard to manipulate things propbably.

[@hiro6164]

Vandal hearts unfortunately is not popular

[@nicest75]

@@hiro6164 That could be true, but it wasn't about which games are most popular. There's lots of games that aren't necessarily "popular," but are really good. I was just saying, Vandal Hearts 1 is a REALLY good game. Especially if this genre is being discussed. It's definitely up there "in my opinion."

[@twinblades-thewilltokeeplo6084]

No Shining Force mentioned is a big fail. Jagged Alliance 2 not mentioned is also another fail.

[@davelee1935]

Shining force and Shining force 2 are the greatest tactical RPGs ever

[@gamelover2222]

Actually, Shining Force CD is the best. Try to play it on emulator if you never had a Sega CD in the past!

[@Buttons28]

@@gamelover2222 @Dave Lee. All three are fantastic and I literally can't find anything like them with whole world exploration and battles where in the battles when you attack there is a separate scene of attacking and not just always showing the battlefield. Truly nothing like these games are out there!

[@frostbite1001]

This. I was waiting before scrolling down. Where the hell are the greatest tactical RPGs EVER.

[@GlowingF0ssil]

Nope

[@rmclaren83]

Yes! Shining Force 2 especially

[@lionablaze8747]

path of radiance and its sequel are fire emblem at its best. highly recommend playing them.

[@ixzaluoh8997]

My opinion it should be number 1 it’s one of my favorite in the series such good cast of characters and boss

[@Brubarov]

I'm glad you put the Banner Saga, it truly deserves its place on the list. A masterpiece of storytelling, combat and immersion imo. A very honourable mention to Vikings Expedition (haven't played Rome yet).

[@sanjithechef]

For people who don’t like turn based RPGs please give tactical RPGs a chance. They are so much more satisfying imo and far less grindy (lol unless it’s disgaea then the grind is fun)

[@neliotuga]

No place for advance wars? It's a freaking masterpiece. Fast to play, easy to pick, no endless text and HUGE replayability. For me it's the best portable strategy game by miles.

[@SeedSnatcher]

Fantastic series, turn based tactics, but not an RPG

[@daywalker3735]

Advance Wars is amazing

[@wedasantika6079]

War Groove

[@chrisjcollings]

jeanne d'arc should totally be in the list, probably top 3.

[@victorhinojos3050]

I think it should have a spot on 11-20, its a good game but not better than the ones listed.

[@arlemoine]

I agree with this. The story is phenomenally told, and nothing about the game is dull. If not top 3, at least top 5.

[@Glenn-vz5xx]

Agreed. Definitely top 5

[@k.s.4292]

Tbh as a fire emblem fan i have to disagree with Fire Emblem 3H, its good but super overrated. It has very noticable flaws like one of the main routes straight up being not finished.

[@gregoryfoster6071]

Awesome list, appreciated Path of Radiance being on there. Ike’s FE games are so good. Also, lets not forget Diofield Chronicle was announced for this year. Game looks great visually, I’m excited to see more.

[@canaldodg]

This game looks absurdely good. Hope it turns out to be a masterpiece!

[@ixzaluoh8997]

Ike era is my favorite and to me fire emblem is the best tatics rpg and can be challenging to especially radiant dawn

[@randonicus1]

The shining force 3 trilogy is the best……such a cool adventure with lots of characters and addictive gameplay. Total shame SEGA limited this release in whole at first. Shining Force Central is awesome, some of the folks there translated the second two games for everyone to experience. I’d die for a shining force 4 continuing where 3 ended with Julian going north and Galm and Elise in the shadows.

[@danielshinogure5165]

Shining Force III (SEGA Saturn) it's my favorite tactical RPG

[@lossantosxperia]

SF3 the best ever!!!!!!

[@Groboman]

sad that SF3 made as crappy 3d grathics and not in cartoon-sprites as SF1-2 ((

[@jimnowlin8094]

Loved it.

[@jesterloh]

Final fantasy tactic is the reason i fell in love with tactical RPG. there is another game "Hoshigami" that kinda have the same art style with FFT, but FFT will always be the best tactical RPG for me.

[@tradnux5848]

There are better PS1 games of the same genre than Hoshigami, I thought it was a good tactics game after FFT and Tactics Ogre, until I found Vanguard Bandits, Vandal Hearts, Eternal Eyes, Front Missions 3 and Saiyuki. There is also Tearring Saga, Arc the Lad and Brigandine which are great SRPG too but with different art style and more larger scale battles. After playing Hoshigami for some time the gameplay mechanics became bland for me, the Coinfeigm system is luck based, and the Session/Push chaining attack gimmick is hard to pull off, i successfully made it once but the reward of pulling this off is nothing at all, I just lost interest in playing through it. But this game looks beautiful, I dare say much better graphics than FFT.

[@carlosferrazbr]

Othercide is the only one that I don't believe it deserves that much praise, it's an ok game. I have found Gears Tactics to be a much greater tactical game than Othercide ever was.

[@nonamesinspace1291]

Agree, othercide did not hold my interest after the first boss battle and the rescue missions were so tedious. Gears Tactics is fantastic until the side missions start repeating over and over again with little variety

[@SuperSupersoda]

I am nearly finished with Valkyria Chronicles right now, and the game is amazing. It's basically a anime WW 2 strategy RPG, that answers the pressing question: what if in WW 2 each side had anime weapons (like a Super Saiyan)?

[@nouashax__]

I buy both the first one and 4th on Steam, hasn't finished it. But I finished the second one on PSP

[@charsquatch600]

The first one is my second favorite game of all time after ogre battle 64. I could play it endlessly

[@pkkiller_apathy4568]

Yep it had WW2 +anime bs+ dbz power ups at random and for some weird reason a Disney musical.... seriously why was that there ... I loved that girl but that song made me glad she was dead... seriously wtf

[@SuperSupersoda]

@@pkkiller_apathy4568 Isara slander will NOT be tolerated by me! She was precious, and beautiful and knew how to fix and pilot a tank. low-key god-tier waifu material.

[@EchoFoxtrot21]

I beat 4 a few months ago and just beat 1 about a week ago. I love them both even if they have a lot of anime tropes.

[@robert7lee]

X Com 2 is still my favourite, it has very few cut scenes and dialogue, focuses more on combat and strategy. That doomsday style clock gives you urgency from the beginning. Not to forget the amazing mods out there. FF Tactics never clicked with me, wasn't a fan of enemy level scaling and not a big fan of game story.

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Try Tactics Ogre LUCT, a remake is coming out very soon in November, or you can play the version for PSP

[@tallman862713]

no shining force 3? no super robot wars F? and one of my favs three kingdoms eiketsuden...

[@datasian9526]

I thought about Front Mission on SNES, Valkyrie Profile on DS and Advance Wars on GBA. They have either great storyline, great mechanics, scaling difficulty ! FF tactics introduced me to TRPGs but my favorite will always be Front Mission because of my love for mechas/customization/storyline

[@adamisalive]

Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle won strategy game of the year in the same year Xcom 2 was also nominated, just saying

[@Nerevarine420]

Robbery

[@cpt.zangscarlet1898]

That's pretty fucked up

[@jaretco6423]

I'm surprised that one wasn't on the list.

[@Aceskies]

I can relate with this list (albeit not with the order). If Into the Breach can be considered the same genre, it would be top 3 btw.

[@Nova04550]

Glad to see FFT take number 1. Fell Seal: Arbiter's Mark is also incredibly good. It's a spiritual successor made by a husband and wife team.

[@tdotran]

I’m going to give a special shoutout to Mario + Rabbids.

[@thefearmakerlive]

x-com 2 War of the Chosen and Othercide are 2 of my favorites and I still play them on my PS5 at various times.

[@tnh723]

I played the banner saga, all 3, during shelter in place. The studio really did care about the characters and game. Glad I also enjoyed most of the games on this list

[@danielshinogure5165]

Shining Force III (SEGA Saturn) it's my favorite tactical RPG

[@agustinusrangel2575]

FFT War of The Lions was the first ever game I bought for the PSP AND first ever SRPG and I was so hooked and in love. I've never played another like it

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Allow me to introduce you to its father: Tactics Ogre Let us Cling Together

[@hbrant]

How Triangle Strategy and Disgaea 5 can be better games than Shining Force II is beyond me. Was this list made by Switch/PC players who barely touched anything else in their life?

[@westonmeyer3110]

Triangle Strategy is way better than Shining Force.

[@finalfayth9165]

two ps2 ATLUS games : Eternal poison & stella desus are criminally underrated tactical jrpg , they deserve more attention ,and must be in the top list.

[@mikeoakeshart3823]

Not a single Divinity Original Sin game? I know the combat isn't work on tiles but really? The game combat is tactical, turn based and very RPG.

[@scarecrow4297]

Wasteland 3 is a must play. I love games that let me just talk my way out of situations and this games has a variety of options on how to tackle situations when it come to dialogue

[@via_negativa6183]

Again think crpgs are bit of a different thing entirely if we are gonna add that then pathfinder and divinity original sin 2 should be on this list too.

[@scarecrow4297]

@@via_negativa6183 idk about pathfinder or divinity but I played Wasteland 3 as a turn based tactical RPG

[@gasparfreak]

@@via_negativa6183 Wasteland 3 is more similar with XCom than with any CRPGs. Don't get why people keep puting it in CRPGs list on youtube. Same thing for shadowrun series.

[@gasparfreak]

@@scarecrow4297 Pathfinder can be played as a turn based, but it's not a grid one like the ones in the video. But I recommend it anyways, excelent D&D look a like, many custom classes just like FFTWoL

[@baaLsecundus]

@@gasparfreak It's really not. It is a CRPG, through and through. Same as the Wizardry series, the Might & Magic RPG series & any turn-based CRPG really.

[@adamujhelyi4340]

soooooo stoked to see The Banner Saga on this list. ive been playing the games since they came out and dont see them on lists of this manner often

[@Maishian]

No Shining force games. Someone wasn't a Sega kid. SMH.

[@nr2676]

He propably born after Megadrive / Sega Saturn era.

[@BigFresh37]

Solid list, but Fire Emblem Awakening, Gears Tactics, and all Advance Wars games are baffling omissions.

[@pyguy7]

Yes the story telling is Master class, yes the job system is deep and addicting. But let's be honest, the real reason Final Fantasty Tactics wins is obviously it's MUSIC

[@LyonHeart888]

🔥🎯🔥

[@kevinguiboche2359]

2 fire emblem games and 2 fft games (essentially) and all the newest games in the genre on a best of all time list? fuck adda here. Gladius with its swing meter and quick time meters has never been done before and its an amazing game. Dynasty tactics with its combo system and conquerable maps per chapter systems have never been done before or since either and is an amazing game, AND they act like three houses is the first tactics game to allow you to choose your faction when Dynasty tactics did it on ps2 AND Dynasty tactics 2 has 4 selectable factions ffs

[@TroyJones345]

Final fantasy tactics and Fire emblem 3 are a must have for tactics gamers. I wasnt a big fan til i played Final fantasy tactics then i tried fire emblem 3 and fell in love instantly 🙃🙂

[@massiv323]

Isnt divinity 2 a tactical rpg ? An all time classic should have made the list. But FFT is definitely numero uno!

[@fotuto13]

You should try Fell Seal if you haven't already! Definitely the FFT sequel we deserved.

[@walltastic903]

what no shining force 2

[@RajamQED]

Fire Emblem 3H does NOT deserve a place in this list. It may be the latest entry in the series, but it isn't that good tbh. Monastery is way too invasive and kills replayability, and the maps feel too samey. Music is meh. Color palette too greyish. Don't get me wrong: game is good overall, but has these little flaws which make the game not-top-10 material imo. Glad you included Path of Radiance though, that game is a gem

[@NinjaRunningWild]

*No D&D Goldbox games?* No Pathfinder? No Shining Force? _List invalidated._

[@PaulRockey]

No Shining Force 2 or 3? The Shining Force III scenario trilogy (fan translation available in English) is my pick for the best tactics rpg ever made. I am glad they had Xcom 2 on there, though. That’s a masterpiece, as well.

[@Citanoo]

SMT Devil Survivor 1 and 2 (both DS originals and 3DS remasters) should also be honorable mentions. For some more obscure games you could also mention Valkyrie Profile Covenant of the Plume, Ragnarok Tactics, Eternal Poison and the Langrisser I & II remakes.

[@xerontokyo]

Yes

[@AvanToor]

Langrisser is obscure? I thought it was definitely one of the many no. 11's

[@blackfrost5124]

Megaten fans being counted out once again. What else is new?

[@TitusKingdom]

I feel like those are a bit obscure for ign although I am surprised at some of the games they included on this list as many of them aren't mainstream

[@xerontokyo]

Or even Atlus fans in general

[@ralfjosephhernandez5613]

Tactics Ogre is golden! Underrated but really good.

[@joek3023]

Love seeing Tactics Ogre on this list. Favorite game hands down

[@zakunick1]

Ogre Battle 64 is my top game. Glad whenever the series is mentioned.

[@shasankshakya2]

Even after all these years. Love it

[@thelegacyofgaming2928]

Never found a game anywhere near as good :(

[@theultimatepololo]

A top 10 tactical RPG list without Shining Force (and Dragon Force) ...... you Generation Z people really need a reminder of something awesome from the 90,s called SEGA

[@EyeHateUrSN]

Literally my favorite sub-genre of my favorite genre.

[@MarcoBartolozzi]

Jeanne D'Arc is top tactical RPG ever! Why not in this list?

[@Oblivion7070]

I’m so happy to finally see Disgaea on a list! I think 4 is the GOAT, but happy the series gets a shout out!

[@jermainep9393]

I wonder if they ever heard of this game called "Shining Force" 1, 2, CD, 3. Or maybe I'm just old despite the title saying "of all time".

[@max-nd1bj]

Shining Force 3, Front Mission 3 are missing. SF3 is for sure in the top 5.

[@mattbrennan7127]

Shining force 2 is number 2 behind FFT. The only reason I played FFT is because of shining force 2. Also Suikoden tactics is a great hidden gem

[@phantomthief9396]

Good to see the Banner Saga getting the credit it deserves!

[@internet2055]

thanks for recognizing the work we put in for you the fans

[@diaphonis]

what?! Fire Emblem 3 houses it´s not a tactical RPG You can defeat the game in hard mode with only 1 character, that is not very tactical isn´t it?

[@fisforfilip]

I just started playing Three Houses last week. Perfect timing :) EDIT: Aaaaaaaaand there's Three Houses spoilers in the video. Well done, IGN.

[@r.c.c.10]

I think all images are from the trailers. Except that Ferdinand's look.

[@popskar]

@@r.c.c.10 Yup, pretty much. timeskip edelgard's cutscene was a bit longer but still.

[@masterscheme1]

Fell seal doesn't seem to get the love it deserves I see... I'm a great spiritual inheritor to FF tactics...

[@TheFuriousWrath]

Absolutely an amazing spiritual inheritor. Feels incredibly similar to FFT with really only the exceptions of the art style and no spinning the camera. Fantastic character customization and a mature story with great characters. Can't recommend this game hard enough. Also one of the only tactical RPGs that is available on modern consoles. If you love FFT and want something that feels comfortable and similar yet offers a newness and it's own unique aspects definitely check it out.

[@masterscheme1]

@@TheFuriousWrath Absolutely...