Top 10 Types of Watches To Avoid In 2022 - Don't Buy A Watch Until You've Seen This!

Today I share the top 10 types of watches you should absolutely avoid-an annual and often requested topic on this channel. I discuss what types of watches to look out for, what I’ve learned from my own mistakes, the best and worst places to buy watches, why certain markets are shadier than you think, absurd watch trends, and the effects of social media on unsuspecting watch enthusiasts. Whether you're planning to buy a ten-dollar Casio, the latest Apple watch, or a new ultra-luxury Rolex, make sure to watch this video first!
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[@Podcastage]

TGV, I love that you're advocating for financial responsibility and not going in to debt for a watch. Very well done! Keep up the great work.

[@homemmoita]

I love your channel, bro!

[@XShotokanX]

I just got an 18K IWC portfino and got 100$ until next pay. Yolo

[@stevebohla6473]

(psssttt.....) (Do it, you know you want it)...,. (Go ahead pod, stick that grubby little hand of your's down in that back pocket, grab that wallet and let's spend some of that hard earned podcast money, you know you deserve it)..... (I mean, every other mother f***** out here has one of those except for you, aren't you good enough?),,..,. (Plus, the Federal Reserve counterfeits all our money anyway out of thin air, then charges you interest, so technically it's all absolutely worthless... I mean you can't take it with you when you go bro.....)........ (You know we deserve this, so do it....)

[@trcs3079]

@@XShotokanX just bought a AP, 200k. Still got a few million

[@jackjones1915]

I just bought hello kitty watch, still got 30btc in my wallet

[@hockeyrd99]

Most high-end watch images in ads or even on websites (Omega and Rolex, for example) are not photos of the watch, but computer generated images of the watch. That is why you have to go see them in person. Years ago I was planning on getting a silver dial Speedmaster until I saw it in person and decided I liked the black dial one better.

[@michaeldgs]

As a dedicated collector I’ve been super frustrated over silliness of the market lately. Thank you for bringing some sensibility back into the community🙏 Great work and wish you all the best TGV✌🏼

[@AK-rq1cz]

Your recent Seiko dress watch video inspired me, that was the one type of watch I was missing. Found a vintage Seiko World Timer on eBay for $75 with shipping. Gold-plated, GMT subdial and alarm and it all works, crazy good deal. So good looking. Cheers TGV!

[@theurbangentry]

Wow, congrats!!!!! So glad I could help, enjoy you Seiko!!!! Best regards, TGV

[@richardb22]

555

[@oscarosullivan4513]

Is it mechanical

[@oscarosullivan4513]

@@theurbangentry Have you thought of reviewing an Amphibia

[@AK-rq1cz]

@@oscarosullivan4513 no it's quartz

[@THEMADWATCHCOLLECTOR]

Great show man! Impulse purchases have been the worst and best parts of this hobby!

[@peterkull8354]

You´re absolutely right Russ: My Direnzo 04 and my Irukandji both were impulse purchases and I love them both. There are other impulse purchases that I better don´t mention though 😭😭😭

[@MarkvanVaals]

Hey Tristan, love your content as always. I often listen to your video's during my commute in the car and the audio (besides the intro) is always very quiet. Maybe you could apply a modest compressor and some gain in post to level out the audio a bit so there are less peaks and they are closer to -3dB to -1dB. Since what happens now is I turn up the volume and I can hear you fine, but then an ad comes on and I jump in my seat how loud it is XD

[@ulrich2441]

I am not really a watch enthusiast but this clip is really good and stands out from advocating what people „should“ desire and getting themselves in to debt or showing off with fake. Well done.

[@timmanion7459]

I'm happy to see you bringing up counterfeit watches. They really have become a scourge of the watch market , and some are so well done that even experienced collectors have been fooled ( not me thank goodness). Also , I loved the quote from Marcus Aurelius !!!

[@marcushillerstrom25]

I don't always love the intros, but this one was particularly great 👍🏻

[@stefanomassoni1568]

The moment whene TGV starts talking in italian, LMFAO 'Con legno? Ma che sei pazzo?' that was brilliant, indeed!

[@MP-hz3ye]

First time seeing your content. Pretty cool. I was also thinking "This guy should have grown in an Italian family" until the confirmation at 8:26 😁.

[@philipdavies1515]

Great video well put together got to say I have a smart watch but hate it you just can't beat a smart wind up watch they look class and not tackie

[@tarasmathers7423]

TGV, ever the gentleman.....👏👏👏Keep up the good work, my friend. Cheers

[@Lamattack]

Another amazing video, TGV! You should do a video comparing your most affordable watch against your most expensive one.

[@theurbangentry]

Now that is a really cool idea. I will note that down. Thank you my friend. Best regards, TGV

[@klausm5460]

I came across that Richard Mille thing only weeks ago when my cousin´s foster son (who is now 20) mentioned the brand. He is very much into top brands in every category, the more pretentious the better. Right now he wears a nice vintage Tissot PR516 that was handed down to him by my late uncle who was a big watch enthusiast (and from whom I have my Junkers and my Poljot Flieger Chronograph). Maybe he´ll find his style without going after Richard Mille hommages by the likes of Invicta. 😉

[@rimlandrealist7679]

wow, I thought RM was bad enough but to even envisage the possibility of an Invicta hommage of a RM... what a scary thought straight out of hell... 'The horror, the horror'

[@balesjo]

Watches like the Richard Mille look like something I'd appreciate more if it were a table, desk, or mantle clock, large enough to appreciate the mechanical artistry. I've seen several watches I would appreciate more if they were a personal desk clock. I think of several designs of the JLC Atmos clock that are lovely to sit and contemplate the design and engineering of the piece.

[@klausm5460]

@@balesjo Yes, maybe it´s a bit narrow-minded, but I share the feeling that a wristwatch is concept limited to certrain criteria that are offset by adding "stuff" like braces, windows, mesh and more.

[@hughmckendrick3018]

Just don't get RM watches. The dials just make me dizzy!

[@salgonzalez9082]

I just recently received a Smart watch, my daily wear is a Speedmaster Reduce. I cant get use to this smart watch, but at the same time I like to track my fitness.

[@herkamer98]

I've purchased several watches (two Hamiltons, two Longines, Seiko) on the Grey Market and never had any issues.

[@ummagumma7826]

What is the point of winding a watch? The automatics need no manual wind, put it on the wrist after one shake and its good to go. Was I overwinding all this time? Haven't wound my watch in months.

[@hunwa425]

I feel like TGVs taking shots at teddy !! Haha maybe the time teller as well. Fun stuff.

[@James011]

great video! Side note, who has that many DVDs in 2022?

[@Alan_Always]

I bought my Flightmaster from a major gray market dealer (whose name starts with Joma). After 3 days, one of the screwdowns got stuck ..... and so did I. Lesson learned! Never again!!!

[@p.kallas6692]

Please let me know if that's Pusher poster behind you. I would love to see your mancave uplay. I really like your thoughts about suff in general. Like your opening for this video. "You really have to feel it touching it now some history" that is a true point in everything you collect. Except maybe movies like a Directors Cut. Thank for intressting angles and your opinion. Regards Peter

[@neweagletimes4292]

Not wanting to be impulsive, I researched my first automatic and about 5 years ago found your channel and you recommended the Bambino. So I bought three - nothing impulsive about that right? They are all beautiful and each with it's own personality including how accurate they are or are not - one of them is actually pretty accurate. Since then I have bought several other automatics that you recommended and the most accurate one is my Junghans Max Bill. It's funny how automatics have their own character each one. The Invicta Automatic Professional 30093 is a beauty and it looks like a Rolex and it's quite accurate believe it or not only losing about maybe a minute every other day. it has a lot of energy so can go for a long time. I got it for 98 bucks at a Marshalls, but it seems like a watch worth much more than that. I have a quartz Boeing watch I won at a Christmas party. a Casio G-Shock, a Citizen Blue Angels. Another HUGE Invicta quartz. The Max Bill is probably the only watch I have that most would not consider junk.

[@RubenRamirezDaKingSon]

I completely agree with avoiding the purchase of a smart watch. For health reasons would be my only exception in relation to owning a smart watch (exercise buff, a patient that needs monitoring)... Thank you for this video

[@terryloh8583]

Another great video. Also my GF bought me that Seiko Tank for Christmas a couple of years ago and had it inscribed and I absolutely love it.

[@32189djsddk]

Amazing video from the classiest person I know. Hope 2022 is off to a good start TGV

[@daveyoder9231]

Loved it. Especially the illegal watch rant. 100% on the nose. Thanks for continuing your efforts!

[@RobEcu123]

Is there a movie channel too? Ive missed a few episodes and didn't notice the collection until now haha.

[@danielnasser3109]

I agree with the smartwatches that why I only wear them for work but my automatic watches I wear every day 👍

[@Jon651]

Your warning about over-hyped watches certainly was prescient now that the MoonSwatch has debuted...

[@randymoses5239]

$300 CDN is my limit.....Im a black friday/cyber monday detective......Once a year i treat myself .....this year....Citizen Eco-Drive Promaster Sea 300m ISO Diver BN0085-01E.....$205 CDN

[@nestopoeta]

TGV always on point with his views amazing information!! Your saving a lot of ppl from watch misery with how delicate and precise your considerations are!! Well done good form!!!

[@francoandjimtherotties2592]

Not a serious collector at all, just like watches, I've had a citizen blue angels automatic watch for 10 years now,got it for my 40th birthday and I honestly still love it but I've just bought a tag heuer formula 1 calibre 16 with the black dial and I love it as well.......might start saving for another but don't want to go too mad

[@Ashkarelessar]

Great informative video TGV. There’s no reason for someone to buy a fake watches.

[@edwintschopp1493]

The same is true for parfums, wines, holiday destinations, sneakers, film starlets.

[@SpenceHitt]

I love hearing your opinion and realizing that I’m not crazy and someone thinks the same way I do

[@lars-ove8749]

I really appreciate your way of verbally telling and presenting what you present in your videos. I think you have the "right view” of life and existence as a human being. I'm not, for example interested in sewing machines or apples but if you were to tell me about these in your way I bet I would become interested.

[@jasonemanuel9070]

Agreed tvg,another great vid mucka!

[@williamjones2154]

good stuff, after may years still enjoy your content , this chanel aided my addiction

[@mulemule]

Giving this a "Like" and subscribing because of the "Hellraiser" puzzle box beside the lava lamp. 16:56 Along with this shimmering commentary: "A *real* watch is a refinement; it's a tradition. You can hand it down a generation--no matter what the cost of the timepiece. It shows personal style and sends a subconscious signal that the wearer is a person that takes time seriously. It elevates an outfit when matched correctly. It can be a long-life companion; there in the key moments of your life. And also a gateway to learning and enjoyment: every time I see my grandfather's pocket watch, I feel a physical connection to a person (unfortunately) no longer with us. How can you [in the case of smart watches] attach sentimental meaning to something that stops working after a few years and you have to throw away?"

[@justintomlinson9311]

Hey TGV what is your view on a built up nh35 based Seiko Submariner homage? Legitimate item to buy and own as a mod/homage or is this a frankenwatch?

[@Aug181video]

Reason #2 hit home for me....the Smartwatch!! I just recently upgraded my smartphone, & along with a new tablet, I decided to go with my very first Smartwatch!! And yes, I can agree....they don't always "go," with everything, ie, a certain outfit ( a tuxedo or suit & tie), but my main reason for acquiring one is to keep up with the times. They are the "wave," of the future, & like smartphones of today vs. 15 years ago ( when they were first released) I'm sure they'll be a lot more one can do with a Smartwatch years down the road. But I still also have one foot in the past & still adore my "collection," of real watches, as well, & will continue wearing them, as well......even with that certain suit & tie, lol!! Cheers!! P.S. I also agree with yiu about the "debt," factor!! While certain brands make great watches, ie, Rolex, Omega, Audemars Piguet, Patek Phillipe, ect., NO WATCH IS WORTH GOING INTO DEBT FOR. Save your money for it!! You'll be glad you did!! 🙂😁🤣🤣

[@heikowallauer]

Good evening TGV, great video with valuable information and advice. It‘s always good to know on what to look out for when enjoying the hobby. Have a great evening! Best regards!

[@theurbangentry]

Evening Heiko, so glad to hear that. Thank you my friend and have a great night, chin chin! 😎🥂 Best regards, TGV

[@ryanmead3939]

Good evening tgv, some truly great tips for the newbies and the old school to take heed to without a shadow of a doubt, stay well my friend, regards Ryan.

[@theurbangentry]

Ryan!!! Thank you so much brother 😎🥂 I hope all is well with you and the family. A big hug. T.

[@toxictraveller1892]

Avoid watches that seem to fill a category. Chronograph, GMT, dress watch ect... I am learning to buy and appreciate watches that I can affordably wear often, and enjoy. I have hard use options, and more refined watches too. But they are all being used! A big fan...

[@OwlsAndPidgeons]

100% on the last advice. better having a good homage as a beater than supporting fakes and also criminal industries with questionable work ethics. there is nothing wrong with having a Seiko Tank Solar instead of a fake Cartier Tank. (Also you get a really nice timepiece with minimum service efforts because of solar) Watches shall be fun. I am lucky enough to already have my grailwatch I always wanted. It isnt by any means the priciest timepiece in the world, but the story, the heritage and everything surrounding it, makes it priceless for me. (its also a vintage piece from the 70s in mint and perfectly serviced condition. I wear it on special occasions and important celebrations and it has great sentimental value)

[@markwade1376]

Excellent video as always 👍

[@megadave1197]

I had an Alpinist and sold it before it increased in value and it was one of my biggest regrets. A great watch that would attract more comments than any other watch I’ve had.

[@picassoboy52]

Just today I tried to buy a watch ive been wanting, it was on ebay. After I made an offer I got an email that I could get it for even less if I made the deal off the ebay sight. Turned it down because theres no recourse or ebay guarantee if something goes wrong. He was apparently trying to avoid the cut that ebay and the payment system will take from his profit. So he lost a sale. The watch is still listed for sale

[@Javi_C]

As always best intros on KZbin!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Javi! 😎🙌 Best regards, TGV

[@tilio9380]

I am a simple man, I see a Hugo intro I instantly click like. 👌

[@guppiejaffe9654]

New jurassic Park is such a great movie!!!!!

[@Vidar.m]

No matter how dull of a day just watch T.u.g. 👍👍 day gets better...

[@mickthebicycle1461]

As a TGV fan boy (well a Hugo fan boy really), I eventually had to have a Flighty, even more so after I watched Mark from Long Island Watch's terrific video tutorial on the use of the slide bezel. Anyway, being slightly seedy on a Saturday morning I headed off to E-bay, At $400 AUD for the sellers last brand new one I thought what the hell not much to loose and heaps to gain. However, when I received the watch there was a sticker on the case back that said Made in Thailand. I can find no information online about Seiko producing there. Also, The large yellow seconds hand stops when it reaches midnight - I start it off in the morning and it stops at midnight. Alas, maybe as TGV suggests here I have fallen prey to the grey market. I still love the look of the watch, it doesn't look fake to my eye - and I have seen plenty of fakes on my travels to Thailand - and I guess I will just have to restart the stopwatch each time I wear it.

[@Stam_the_344_]

That was a great episode, a bible for new buyers or old enthusiasts of this beautiful world of watches.

[@saleendriver]

RMs are tacky beyond belief sir. 1000% correct. Can't do it. Wouldn't do it.

[@johnwick860]

"you need to know your price limit" Colombian drug cartel: what's that?

[@hlebo]

Well done, Tristano. I hope someday you might consider adding a category: any watch that is manufactured with a precious metal that inflates the price by 500% or more beyond the worth of the metal. At the moment I'm thinking of the 18K Tudor Back Bay, which at most has $2500 worth of gold in it, but the price jumps from around $4,000 for the steel model to more than $16,500 for the 18K version. There are plenty of other equally notorious examples.

[@albertlopez4956]

Hello Sir. I just got my new Casio GW6900-1. Could you feature it in one of your videos? I am very pleased with the way it looks and works. Thanks for your videos.

[@theurbangentry]

An absolute classic! I will deffo include it one day. Great suggestion, thank you. Best regards, TGV

[@albertlopez4956]

@@theurbangentry Thanks much TGV. Greetings from Miami, FL. I enjoy following your videos and I have learned how to become a better collector.

[@StefanoMaggio]

Can you make an other video on buying and selling, 2022 version? thank you

[@theurbangentry]

Duly noted, Thank you Stefano! Best regards, TGV

[@jwags24]

100 percent agree with the impulse buy! I like making a list of watches I “want” throughout the year. And it’s amazing to read back through after a few weeks to see my interest fade. The ones that don’t fade will end up part of the collection.

[@bronco1199]

It's Zelos season again, 4 or 5 channels are hawking them. I see your point about shady motives. Cheers

[@pavloskourris277]

TGV, just a point of view: I have three children and they never wore a watch because they felt it was redundant; their mobile told the time so no need. Finally when smart watches came out they felt it was cool to have something around their wrist. FF now my two boys sport the 20 year old Tudors I bought for them when they were toddlers and recently they bought Seiko dive watches for everyday use, while my teenage daughter sports a Casio F-91W (Clear) on her right wrist, while still holding on to "my" smart watch on the left. (I always forgot to charge it so I gave it to her). The moral of the story is that smart watches at least made it cool for the millennials and Gen Z to have something around their wrist and thus making it an easier transition into automatic watches.

[@ashertsukuyomi8427]

YAY TGV has a super famicom like meeee did you also grow up with JPN region consoles until your mid 20's ? :)

[@campshay19]

you didn't have to remind me to like the video I always like your stuff

[@heyzooz]

Ive always loved watches but just started getting into watches I like. I just wanted to say I'm not a fan if fake/replica watches but I'll say homage or cheap chinese homage is what got me into automatic watches. I never thought I'd own an automatic but I got a Submariner homage with automatic movement and I love it but now I want legit automatic watches so in a way the cheaper homage opened the door for me. Just my opinion.

[@Sergeant_Fury]

I bought a fake GMT Master II in the Middle East some years ago. Everything except the movement is fine and I consider it a curiosity and conversation piece in my rather odd-ball, poor-man's collection of bits and bobs that have washed into my possession. I wish I'd never bought the bloody thing. You are absolutely right about someone who wears a fake "per fare bella figura." By the way, I'd say your early years were spent in Rome.

[@kjeldpedersen666]

Hi TGV A man in a nice suit wearing a smart watch...I always think “you’re a bit too smart to be really smart”😆 But I don’t think that the smart watches really is a treat to the real watch industry as much at the same level as the quartz crisis was. Think there’s a growing trend of going analog as our world goes increasingly digital. You can see this valuing of non digital craftsmanship products when it comes to cars, hifi (vinyl records) and...watches. A lot of people has a smart watch for all the convenient functions, but a real watch for dressing up... They know very well that a REAL watch is mechanical. That’s probably the reason that the prices has gone trough the roof - but that’s another problem🙄 Otherwise, thanks for all the good advice and keep up the good work👍

[@theurbangentry]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love that!!!! "you’re a bit too smart to be really smart". Well said my friend. Thank you, Best regards, TGV

[@karlsenula9495]

Ok I'll admit I really want to get a big bulky 72mm Invicta Gen 3 Sea Hunter (the 80's behemoth Invicta you mentioned in the video) ... logic and taste scream at me NOOOOOO!!! TO BIG! LOOKS GAWDY!!! BAD VALUE!!! .... and yet the juvenile curious side of me goes hmmmm I wonder??? How bad could it really be??? Could I be surprised??? Never seriously considered a watch l Iike that ... why not??? I wonder how it would look and wear??? As of now logic and a multiplicity (a long list of choices with increasing prices) has won out.

[@Lbfree125]

Another great video… thanks TGV! (she_loves_watches)

[@Pukemnukem]

Smart watch is a good day to day work watch. I love my Galaxy as an engineer. But for special events. Obvious it must be a proper watch.

[@MrRoyalty33]

Social media has definitely cheapened the experience of enjoying what you have. You get robbed out of the joy of falling in love with your watch because you're constantly being told that you need something else. The right watch will find you if you just give it time ironically. Great and relevant content as always.

[@pacovl46]

That’s only true if you actually pay attention to what social media tells you! I personally don’t give a shit about it. I buy the watches that I like and I buy them for myself and not to please anyone else. I also don’t fall victim to what the “in- crowd” thinks I should have. Lastly, all those posers buy the hype watches only so they can show off and they’re stupid enough to pay massively inflated prices for it. In other words, stop caring about what the people that are of no value to you say or think and start doing you! 🙂

[@wallythacker7772]

You should read “the subtle art of not giving a f*ck”.

[@oklahomahank2378]

The more choices people have, the less happy they are with their choice.

[@ezdeezytube]

If social media "robs you of joy", then maybe its time to delete it like so many of us have.

[@educationprogramassistant5518]

While I partially agree with you, I believe that social media had a tremendously positive impact on the watch community. Mainly by making the hobby more attainable, understandable for masses. It allowed tons of watch enthusiasts around the world to connect, share, educate each other and help with developing interest and taste in watches. Thanks to social media I learned so much about movements, modding, fixing watches. Learned and bought the brands and models I would've never known otherwise. Found friends and fellow watch nerds. Saw hilarious dramas unfold. All in all it's not the social media itself but the way we use it and allow it to influence us. I love to consume KZbin, reddit, WUS, Watchcrunch and many other resources, but I never really buy anything solely based on what I see there. Take TGV - I frequently disagree with him and certainly don't share his taste in watches, but I do enjoy his content.

[@markgrieves1307]

I know my limit TGV, which is about 500 quid. The Baltic Aquascaphe will fit that. Thanks for mentioning the Bambino, a watch that I do own. I love your inclusivity on the scale of Casio to Cartier and now I know I can save for the absolute grail watch if I can break the psychological 500 quid barrier. As always an education, this presentation was much needed. ✌️

[@wallythacker7772]

The problem is that there’s so many cool pieces for 500-1k. I get impatient trying to save up and always come across another 600$ one I “need” lmao. Then I have start the watch savings piggy bank all over again hahaha.

[@wallythacker7772]

This does bring up the 100 good watches vs 1 AWESOME watch collector’s conundrum. Modern manufacturing and CAD have allowed many talented watch designers with a vision to turn out some awesome pieces that aren’t breaking the bank. If a watch as rugged and “functionally beautiful” as a marathon was produced in 1960 and sold at the same price as a Patek customers would say it was worth more money than the hand built slightly imperfect Nautilus. Nowadays manufacturers have all but perfected mass production and need in house hand made pieces to ask outrageous sums for or the pricing seems absolutely absurd. Does that mean that the Nautilus is going to function better than the GSAR? Not at all, they serve the same purpose and if we were comparing them side by side, apples to apples like a steel diver vs a steel diver, in the real world, one might be ever so slightly better at performing its duties than the other but is that tiny difference worth a 90,000$ premium? Lol hell no! Enthusiasts like us place more value on them as jewelry because we don’t necessarily need a watch. If your life absolutely depended on your timepiece would you rather be wearing an FP Journe or a Casio? Exactly lol. I’m willing to bet that if you took any individuals collection of ten 1000k watches and stuck them in a closet with someone else’s collection of ten 1,000,000$ watches and opened that closet 100 years later that the “cheap” pieces won’t have just turned to dust because they weren’t expensive. There are very few valid reasons for buying expensive vs good that I can think of, maybe appreciation as an investment instead of for wearing pleasure? Point is just because something is expensive doesn’t mean it’s that much better, and just because something is good doesn’t mean it needs to be expensive. I can buy any watch I want. Seriously. No watch is out of my reach. I have been blessed/lucky to have picked some good investments at the right time. I wear a Tudor BB58 every single day and it makes me as happy if not more so than my neighbor who wears a different rose gold Rolex every day of the week simply because they were costly. Don’t buy into the madness!!

[@vipeton.8927]

Add bit more, sell some shit, don't go for takeaway for a while, don't buy clothes. And you are set for something better.

[@khaaaaaaaaaannn]

Completely agree that seeing a watch in the flesh is essential if you intend to actually wear it. I bought a rose gold flyback chronograph online and when it arrived I hated how it sat on my wrist and immediately returned it. I also absolutely loved the Tudor BB58 but decided to go to a dealer to try it on before buying, and I'm so glad I did because it looked like a child's toy on my wrist. The opposite can also be true; while I was in a jewellers one day I asked to try on a white dialled Omega Seamaster Professional, a watch I've always thought looked awkward and ungainly, but when I saw it on my wrist I fell in love. I have never seen any watch suit any wrist as well as that Seamaster suited mine. TL;dr always try a watch on before committing to buying it

[@admiraltamalak7559]

Because of TGV, and this channel, I bought my first automatic timepiece (Seiko SARB 035), and now I also have the Seiko SKN809 and the mighty Flighty. My next target is the Hamilton Khaki Field automatic. But one of the best of his recommendations was the Casio DW5600. Absolutely love this watch.

[@litterpicker1431]

10 01:50 The "unexperienced" watch; 09 03:53 The over-hyped watch; 08 06:12 The impulse buy; 07 07:45 Watch trends that age badly; 06 09:41 The grey market; 05 11:14 The shady watch dealer; 04 13:29 Debt; 03 14:59 Fashion watches; 02 15:52 Smartwatches; 01 18:17 Fake watches

[@PasanJayaweeraYashoda]

You are a godsend!

[@adjdani2061]

thanks bro

[@DynoBash]

Thank you so much I can’t stand that dinosaur stuff

[@angusyoung5398]

TGV, could you make a video talking about Certina? I love some of their diving and ceramic watches

[@theurbangentry]

I have a long time ago, but you are so right, long over due. Funnily enough I was researching them yesterday. Unfortunately I do not know an official AD that can give me access, so I may have to just buy one. But it will happen in 2022! I promise. Thank you Angus, excellent suggestion. Best regards, TGV

[@Ten80pete]

10 year ago I quit buying watches that cost more than $50 because I had lost (or had stolen, in the case of my JeanRichard) every watch I had ever owned. Recently found your channel and rediscovered my Love for watches. I wanted to thank you for talking about replicas. I didn't even consider the negative impacts, and so didn't hesitate to buy fake watches, but since then I have found quite a few lower level watches that I genuinely Love. My Casio MTP-4700 that I got for $6 is one of my favorites now, and as much as I like my Submariner and can appreciate it, I don't ever have any occasion where it feels appropriate to wear it.

[@hawkeye454]

TGV is the definitive watch enthusiast. I just purchased my first Orient Kamasu, absolute gem! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you sir! Enjoy your Orient, killer watch! 😎🙏🥂 Best regards, TGV

[@michaelriera6277]

Great watch! May it bring you much joy.

[@slilfullsquash1405]

I would say the what I am calling "kickstarter watch" as I see so many that pay for advertisment on social media and end up being less than what was promised or worse never released. As always love the videos TGV!

[@astroboirap]

they end up looking like ali baba junk

[@Sebastian85]

I also managed to avoid impulse purchases. It took me half a year to make and to find the next watch I wanted. Sometimes time needs time :) Thanks for this video, TGV. You nailed it!

[@theurbangentry]

Thank you Sebastian as always. You are amazingly patient, you have my admiration and respect. Best regards, TGV

[@AboveTheClouds87]

@@theurbangentry I'm just getting into watches and I've made some impulse buy, what are some things that i can look for in a youtuber that should be red flags and if they're reviews are not legit? Thank you.

[@balesjo]

I recently made an impulse purchase of a 1965 Vulcain watch from Switzerland. Seller had a good reputation from buyers and stated the watch was in working order. The price was low so I purchased it. Got it and the photos were spot on, in fact it looked better than shown. However, when I put it on, after about 30 minutes it was running really fast. I did some online investigating and found several reasons it could run fast. I decided against returning it and take a chance it can be fixed. If not, it's a beautiful reminder of what can happen when making an impulse buy.

[@diavalus]

@@AboveTheClouds87 if a KZbinr says you should not buy a Rolex (a company which delivers good quality and has history) and instead, you should buy a fashion watch which costs a few hundred dollars but it is worth nothing on the secondary watch market. It’s been one example in the past and apparently, that youtuber was earning money from the sales of that cheap and worthless watch.

[@Sebastian85]

@@AboveTheClouds87 I don't want to offend some KZbinrs, but it even affects the relatively well-known channels like Bark and Jack or Theo and Harris. Watches on these channels are often only rated based on photos. I think if the KZbinr in the video isn't holding the watch in his hand but does leave a review, that's the best red flag for you. Greetings, Sebastian

[@robinosborn8401]

Great video. I fell into all of the traps you mentioned, except counterfeit watches, over the past ten years. Two years ago I decided to step back from the flipping frenzy and focus on a single brand - Sinn. There is one authorized dealer in the US - WatchBuys. No worries about counterfeits or grey market watches. I have two, a 857 and a UX. I am the sole owner and know everything about these watches - how they’ve been treatet, service history, etc.. No, they’re not Rolexes or Omegas but I REALLY love my German watches and they are tough as heck!

[@chrispurzer9461]

Sinn makes great, great watches ...technology and quality that really do justify their retail asking price.

[@theeverydaywatchcollector8036]

Another great video! I certainly agree with all your points! I'd say one more category to avoid is vintage watches without a plan for servicing or repair. I've been burned so many times because a vintage watch I initially thought was in good shape suddenly died on me. A good plan is to always assume vintage watches are unserviced so that you can pay accordingly and have a good watchmaker ready to help

[@christopherwinson-longley3301]

I agree! My first proper watch, bought a year ago, was a 1969 Omega Seamaster Cosmic. Although it at a very reasonable cost I discovered after servicing it that it wouldn't be practical as a daily wearer. I now wear it around the house and love it, but I had to buy another watch to wear outdoors - especially when it's raining!

[@davidrosenblum2178]

Great choices and I agree, TGV. My 2¢... watches from upstart microbrands who do not stand behind their product. I've said it before; you do not merely wear the watch, you wear the brand, and I only wish to represent those brands who by their actions earn my support.

[@j.burgess4459]

I say: avoid almost any man's Rolex watch at current grey market prices! We could be in a hyper-bubble, and it could burst big time. (I would still buy from an AD at retail though.)

[@thekingofthisworld2154]

Based on the prices of used automobiles right now, I wouldn’t bet on the Rolex bubble popping anytime soon.

[@markcopeman3552]

Great episode , with sound advice to new collectors. Love your point about seeing a watch in the flesh, is so different to just viewing on line. Your grail watch might not be what you expected, or in my case simply not fit with 8 inch wrists .

[@louisgarcia8012]

I just want to say thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos. You are so down to earth and the history and education and culture you provide behind brands and specific watches is just wonderful. You have really helped me appreciate watches that I didn’t before, as well as helped me make decisions on new ones. So great to know there’s people out there so passionate about watches!

[@MarkGalean]

So true!!

[@niksoncutts]

So true on replica watches. It's amazing the amount of homages you can get that look pretty darn close to the originals, but without any of the faking or counterfeiting or criminal activity going on. They're not even that expensive, which is perfect if you want to "try out" a style of watch, like the Submariner, before getting something more expensive!

[@vianouche1]

They are perfect if you want to be in the second league, the one of imitators and fakes. To pretend you have something that you do not have. Only for this they are great...

[@ChfHappySack]

@@vianouche1 Many watches are in the thousands of dollars. Obviously you know this. Not many people can afford a watch like that. Example being the submariner. Now obviously the much cheaper ones like Invicta isn't a Rolex, but it's the next best thing for $70 compared to 4-5 thousand dollars. As a consumer, it's the company's job to win me over. If another competitor can make something similar for much cheaper and of good quality then I'm gunna go for it. It doesn't matter if Rolex made it first. It's their job to convince me that the price they're asking is worth it. There's much more important things I'd spend 5k on before I buy 1 watch. Anyone who argues this is just a watch snob.

[@DarrenBates]

"Most of this toxic positivity we are constantly bombarded with is absolutely false" - man, you are an absolute gent. Many of these rules are rules for life not just for watches. Two of my best watched are ones that I never expected - one is a Casio EFV-110D which I had my eye on and ended up becoming something I really love, and the other is the G Shock GBDH 1000. Both of which I didn't get into debt for and absolutely love on my wrist. Thanks for being a gentlemanly voice of sanity in the world, from Dublin, Ireland.

[@fubaralakbar6800]

"Toxic positivity" sounds like something House MD would say : )

[@johnleonard3951]

I dont agree with staying away from smartwatches. It was a smartwatch that got me into mechanical watches to begin with. I seen a skeleton watch of some kind that i really liked but it was way out of the range i was willing to spend on a watch. Behold the smartwatch and the ability to put what ever watch face you want on it. So i bought a 40mm galaxy watch and it was over from there. what i was willing to pay for a watch drastically changed soon after that point as well.

[@wasteddude]

That's cool you got into mechanical watches but it's still good advice in general. Smart watches have a very limited lifespan. For casual use? Sure why not. But it just doesn't look right on a suit for example.

[@phucth91]

@@wasteddude not exactly casual use, you can do a lot of things with smartwatches, from their accurate timekeeping, to calendar, reminders, text, calls, step counter, heart rate, spo2, blood pressure measurement, and the most important thing to me is contactless payment as I don't have to carry a big wallet of cash and cards. I don't like to call them smart watches, they're wearable devices, like a phone, just small and look like a watch.

[@ACDandMe]

I agree with you. I also became interested to mechanical watches because of smart watches

[@bruiser6479]

@@phucth91 I totally agree. I have an Apple watch. It is not an alternative to my other watches. It is something I use as a smartphone alternative, especially when paired with my airpods. For the convenience and functionality I accept the short lifespan. I cant make phone calls or listen to music with my Alpinist. Having said that I totally agree an Apple watch is a disposable tool. A real watch is a totally different beast. It can’t replace a real watch. A real watch is a thing of beauty.

[@DrgnTmrSirGawain]

Interesting pov! I mean, the very definition of smart watch is not really fitting as a term for TGV's critique. I could say any watch with some additional function other than hour of the day is smart. I assume as I can't recall this instant that TGV meant digital and connected to smart phones.

[@77cjam]

Great video sir, have to agree with all. My only real "watch to avoid" is and has always been the one you think you want/should have. It's fine to be steered/inspired/educated by people (you inspired me to buy my first mechanical watch, a Seiko 5 many years ago and I will always be greatful) but what is right for others doesn't mean it's right for you

[@Kittyland123]

Thank you TGV for another wonderful video with great recommendations! I have recently purchased the Tissot powermatic 80 chronometer certified for an astonishing deal for only $350 on Amazon! I really enjoy having “real watches” with real history and a high quality work horse movement that will last for many years to come! I also held in person and experienced wearing a Yema Air-force 2 watch! My friend only paid $600 and it has an in-house movement I believe if I’m referring to the correct model? Thank you TGV! I strongly agree with you! Stay healthy and well! Nicholas

[@markor.7557]

Hey TGV, first of all i love your videos, keep up the great work! I just wanted to give you some constructive criticism: Since you like to create longer videos with several segments you should look into adding timestamps in your videos - that way if a viewer looks for information on one specific watch/subject he can easily skip to it. Especially in your really long videos (podcasts) that would be a nice addition. Apart from that i absolutely love that you add a lot of history and personal experience to your videos instead of just keeping it short. Have a great day :)

[@eihabhani5941]

Thank you TGV for such an informative video! Agree with all your points, one of the very few genuine horology enthusiasts on KZbin. As usual a masterpiece video. Cheers🥂

[@stevecatalano9856]

Great video as always. You touched on this but I would avoid a watch solely based on brand of it doesn’t speak to you. That is why the grey market is thriving. Too many people caring more about the name or logo on the watch than the piece itself. We are all guilty of not wanting to step down a notch after hitting a certain milestone/level on products. I play guitar and can certain confirm that playing a $2000 guitar doesn’t make you better than when playing a $500 guitar. Same goes with watches. Appreciate the time piece for what it is and you can’t go wrong.

[@giusepperocchi2979]

The guitar comparison doesn’t make sense. The reason for buying a better guitar is not to make you a better guitarist, but to have something that sounds better, feels better and is nicer to play. Same with watches, a good one doesn’t tell time better than a cheap Casio but it’s much more satisfying to look at, to touch, to keep on the wrist.

[@AeternumAngel]

I have to disagree about the second hand reputable watch dealers, as many of them have ridiculous prices, for example I have seen many second hand watches that are not in pristine condition, sold by them at the same price of a new watch (same model) sold by a Grey Market dealer. Paying used at the same price as new, that doesn't make any sense, at least not to me. I have bought from many watches from Grey Market dealers and it's not true at all, that their support is bad, it depends on each shop some are good and some are bad, so sorry but I'm not buying those "avoid" things. Also, now some Grey Market dealers are official AD of some brands, so things are changing fast.

[@mjdm1925]

Who is a grey dealer that is an AD also? Can’t think of one. Thanks

[@AeternumAngel]

@@mjdm1925 for example recently Ashford was a Glycine and Hamilton AD, but not anymore. Another example is Purchasedirect with Edox and so on.

[@joeyhinton8]

I wouldn’t consider myself a serious watch collector, but I wound up (intended) with quite a few by being a junk hunter. Thrift stores, garage sales and pawn shops have allowed me to fuel this habit without costing an arm and a leg. The adrenaline rush of finding a nice piece for pennies on eBay prices is what keeps me looking, and satisfies my need for something different. Winding a $3, 1970s Timex, and seeing the second hand take off always makes me happy.

[@SUPERSPORT_LONDON]

Your first statement is irrelevant. It's great that you have that habit of buying junk watches but that has nothing to do with serious watch collecting.

[@LobsterRavioli]

I agree with your watch hunting idea. I’ve done the same thing, and you are correct. You can sometimes find an amazing watch, that someone thought is either junk or it doesn’t work.

[@joeyhinton8]

@@SUPERSPORT_LONDON you’re irrelevant.

[@PasanJayaweeraYashoda]

That's what I'm doing too!

[@FUNZO1975]

@@SUPERSPORT_LONDON What is "serious watch collecting"?

[@mattys1467]

Hugo was in great form this evening 👌 Fully agree with your assessments, especially the smart watches. I know some have benefited from them acting as a gateway, but they are ultimately disposable once the technology inevitably moves on. Such a waste! I would also caution against the microbrand band wagon. Choose carefully. There are some excellent options, brands like Lorier really trying to do things right. But the are others you know are not likely to be around in a few years.

[@Sbrussaard]

I have so many Steinhart watches in my collection. They bring so much quality and craftsmanship for the money. Not saying the watches are cheap, but you get the maximum amount of watch for every buck you spend on it. And they have wonderful customer service too. This is a brand that many other brands can learn a lot from

[@angelos6817]

I had two Steinharts which I sold to finance higher end purchases. They were top quality for the money and were 39mm versions. I just noticed they have bought out an Explorer 2 style. That might be the Steinhart that I will buy next.

[@mariosiaven2965]

SURE 100% like you said I myself have an ocean one gmt coke since 2 years ago and the quallity and accuracy is second to none at least at that price level

[@earthenjadis8199]

I've had a bad customer service experience with Steinhart, so I can't agree that they are wonderful. However, they do make watches that represent good value.

[@varanid9]

As TGV pointed out, Steinhart also has some interesting original designs. Also, a couple of their Rolex homages I would actually consider buying, one of them a replica of a vintage Rolex that hasn't been produced for several decades, and another a Rolex-style watch in a color that Rolex never made. For those reasons, I think these 2 would be quite acceptable.

[@vianouche1]

Well Steinharr learns a lot from other brands, if you see what I mean... A brand that the respect I have for myself prevents me to ever put on my wirst. Seems that not everybody has the same self-respect and relation to honor.

[@boris7540]

Last year I've bought my first mechanical watch. I really wanted a Navy/gilt Neptune III, but finally I've seen a good discount on Chr. Ward Trident, so I've bought it because of better finishing, sapphire, less loud movement. Now I regret not pulling a trigger for Lorier. I now understand that you have to listen to your heart when buying something stupid as a watch and don't concentrate on specs that much. Plus Lorier has discontinued Navy/gilt Neptune, at least for now.

[@bigmacdaddy1234]

Why is buying a watch stupid?