Top 10 Ugliest Car Models in NASCAR History

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S1apSh0es

S1apSh0es

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@S1apShoes
@S1apShoes 3 жыл бұрын
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@rus0004
@rus0004 3 жыл бұрын
People have already mentioned them, but you forgot the twisted sisters.
@chriscary4074
@chriscary4074 3 жыл бұрын
come on slap, how ya gonna start off the list with a legend? you can say the Super Bird and Daytona are controversial for sure but to call them one of the "ugliest cars in NASCAR" is just as controversial. i'm on the other side of that fence, ever since i laid eyes on the super bird it's been one of my favorite cars, and if it was so bad why did they revive an entire brand to do a run of superbirds in 2016?
@-sandman4605
@-sandman4605 3 жыл бұрын
Let's bring NASCAR to Bathurst Australia and run a 1000k race in 2022 or 2023. 🤓👍🇦🇺
@jefferyrobertson7520
@jefferyrobertson7520 3 жыл бұрын
The ugliest car in NASCAR history piece of junk boxy Ford Thunderbird from 1980 through 1982 I mean terrible what a fiasco
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Just an thought Saw the latest video that Nascarman History did and would be cool too see a Slap on location at both tracks the road and the oval at the Augusta race way Since I did not know that Grand National now Cup had raced at this track, I just thought that Indy cars and what is now IMSA in the 24 hour stuff raced here. was a set of tracks from 1963 to 1970 with the oval being from 1962.
@JackTheripper911
@JackTheripper911 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The Dodge Charger Daytona was first raced on Talladega, while the Ford Torino Talladega was first raced on Daytona.
@poboy942
@poboy942 3 жыл бұрын
Thats crazy .thanks for the 411 man !!
@cavalierliberty6838
@cavalierliberty6838 3 жыл бұрын
@@poboy942 they also won those races, respectively.
@alphagnYT01
@alphagnYT01 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that's kinda ironic. Though a pretty cool fact!
@JJWilsonVlogs
@JJWilsonVlogs 3 жыл бұрын
And the Ten Bristol was raced at Nashville Superspeedway
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas 3 жыл бұрын
That’s hilarious. You are correct. The ironies..
@rabenracing6093
@rabenracing6093 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact, AMC was the first NASCAR manufacturer to utilize disk brakes on all four wheels. Not Ford, not GM, not Chrysler... AMC
@auburnalum9019
@auburnalum9019 3 жыл бұрын
And no one cares.
@TyqaPlaysHD
@TyqaPlaysHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@auburnalum9019 you cared enough to comment
@petrichor446
@petrichor446 3 жыл бұрын
@@auburnalum9019 ok fetus
@sking2173
@sking2173 3 жыл бұрын
Late 60’s, early 70’s, AMC had some fascinating cars. It was an absolute shame that they didn’t survive ...
@ATEC101
@ATEC101 3 жыл бұрын
@@auburnalum9019 Anyone who has actually raced a car cares, myself included. Drum brakes not only suck, they are dangerous.
@mryamp
@mryamp 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought the Superbird and Daytona looked like hotwheels. For me I never once thought it was a bad design. Always thought it was cool and sleek.
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
I remember the Daytona 500 with the wings and long-nosed Torino Talladegas blasting off into Turn 1 like a squadron of fighter jets after each other. No Ferraris or Lola's or Datsuns here, folks, just pure American muscle.
@IamSnehan
@IamSnehan 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought it looked badass
@schnauzer360
@schnauzer360 Жыл бұрын
Same here, I thought it looked awesome
@FlashoftheBlades
@FlashoftheBlades Жыл бұрын
Same here. I still remember finding 1:64 scale diecasts available in stores and trying to get as many of them as I could. I got at least two or three of the winged cars, and they were my favorites.
@NazriB
@NazriB 8 ай бұрын
Lies again? Big Ass Car Sugar Peanuts
@07_danishwistara29
@07_danishwistara29 3 жыл бұрын
About the "you hated it the first time you saw it" line, I fell in love with the Daytona before I even knew it was called the Daytona when I watched Cars as a 3 year old, the sleek front nose, the large wing in the rear, it made me fall in love with car culture
@scjacket611
@scjacket611 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was just a bullshit comment
@NazriB
@NazriB 8 ай бұрын
Lies again? Grab Car Ugly America
@MIKEY123.
@MIKEY123. 5 ай бұрын
I love Cars as well, but I never watched the third movie, and I hate the second movie, so Cars 1 is my only pick from that whole trilogy.
@FemboySprite101
@FemboySprite101 3 ай бұрын
Omg same I watched cats growing and I was really little and I fell in love with the king the moment I saw him!
@lemmyspeaks
@lemmyspeaks Ай бұрын
You were 3 when cars came out? Damn I feel old I was in second grade
@richardjohnson4238
@richardjohnson4238 3 жыл бұрын
I fell in love with the Dayton/Superbird the first time I saw one. I liked the Charger Daytona better, but not by much. Those things are still what I think a "race car" should look like. I also loved the AMC Matador's mostly because I liked the guys who drove them, but I thought the car was nice looking too. I stil do actually.
@sludge8506
@sludge8506 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t remember what I thought of the Daytona Chargers and Superbirds when I first saw them. I probably didn’t like them. I rooted for the AMC because it was such an underdog.
@ronframe387
@ronframe387 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry S1ap, as a 9 and 10 year old the Daytona and Superbird were the coolest cars ever invented in my eyes. When Chrysler says Go for it, they go all in!
@sking2173
@sking2173 3 жыл бұрын
I was already an adult, and I agreed with you. It was a great time to be a car guy. F1 and Indy cars were adding wings, and Jim Hall (Chaparral) even had a car with a giant fan and side-skirts to suck the car down to the track. The winged MOPARS to me were quite majestic ...
@hunternegron336
@hunternegron336 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@guppy719
@guppy719 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah maybe you didn't like it if you saw it for the first time as an adult but Its so long ago that most people were kids and thought they were cool.
@rickintexas1584
@rickintexas1584 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Superbird is one of the coolest NASCAR designs ever.
@lambdalambdalambdaa
@lambdalambdalambdaa 3 жыл бұрын
Your favorite Nascar racer is prob Stephen Rhodes.
@nottobay6768
@nottobay6768 3 жыл бұрын
Cool≠pretty, it's ugly by any reasonable standard but gets away with it through the rule of cool.
@scjacket611
@scjacket611 3 жыл бұрын
@@nottobay6768 You mean ugly by your standards
@captaincumrag42069
@captaincumrag42069 2 жыл бұрын
@@nottobay6768 Exactly, so many things can pass as "cool" but not "pretty"
@jameshuban6515
@jameshuban6515 2 жыл бұрын
You've got to remember wings were coming into vogue back then in every type of car. Some more radical than others. Remember the Chaparrals driven by Jim Hall. The Indy cars etc.
@t.r2603
@t.r2603 3 жыл бұрын
COT is undisputed for #1. Its literally the antithesis of the idea of stock car. It removes the manfactures ability to come up with cool designs that can change the game.
@CHERN0BYLCH1LD
@CHERN0BYLCH1LD 3 жыл бұрын
The split wings on a NASCAR was so unnatural, it's up there with grooved slicks or dick nose in f1
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 3 жыл бұрын
But until the full on stricter horsepower and transmission rules they could tweak those parts for interesting cars in gen 5 until rule changes with the gen 6 sometime during its run when that and the last blow, the dash drivers seat was made more strict to what could be on there. However the 2001 on up gen 4 cars were almost all the same shape too just slightly different fronts so do not forget that, they just allowed more innovation inside the car.
@vanguardRailgun924
@vanguardRailgun924 3 жыл бұрын
The next gen looks pretty ugly too not gonna lie.
@OptimusPrime-lk2zi
@OptimusPrime-lk2zi 3 жыл бұрын
Gen 7 is number 1
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 3 жыл бұрын
@@OptimusPrime-lk2zi The latest one is a maybe, I have to see how it preforms. I do not like the single lug wheel that is wrong as it looks the people in charge of the car are tying to turn NASCAR into an IMSA type race.
@eddierools
@eddierools 3 жыл бұрын
Say what you will about the Matador, I bloody LOVE it! Those earlier models were really just the 1970 Rebel with a different nose and name, which makes sense since AMC really wasn't doing too well financially. Honestly never knew AMC ever took part in NASCAR until now, only knew about them partaking in the Trans Am series. So you've really taught me something new today!
@tnc7399
@tnc7399 4 ай бұрын
Well they didn't reuse the Rebel because they were poor, they thought the Rebel name was bad. Anti-establishment name so they got rid of that
@galil_6863
@galil_6863 3 жыл бұрын
I was hoping you'd put the Superbird on this list. Not because I find it ugly, but because I never get tired of seeing footage of the Superbird 😂
@steeliewheelies
@steeliewheelies 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw a Dodge Charger Daytona I instantly fell in love, honest to god. Sorry man. It’s actually my all time favorite car, and has been since I was about 5 years old. I understand I might be some sort of exception, but I just wanted to let you know at least one of “me” exists.
@uselesspaprclip5057
@uselesspaprclip5057 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you my total dream car
@kinocorner976
@kinocorner976 3 жыл бұрын
You’re not wrong. Slaps is in the minority with the Dodge Daytona. I love the car.
@Loganbeecham
@Loganbeecham 3 жыл бұрын
It is also my favorite car
@JackTheripper911
@JackTheripper911 3 жыл бұрын
@@uselesspaprclip5057 The Dodge Daytona and Plymouth SuperBird are both beautiful looking cars.
@kadenlemon495
@kadenlemon495 3 жыл бұрын
I’m with you. I love those cars
@DallasSeiwert
@DallasSeiwert 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s my video and I’ll do what I want.” - S1apSh0es, July 2021
@BuddWolf
@BuddWolf 3 жыл бұрын
Quote of the year!🤣🤣🤣
@Carlyknarly
@Carlyknarly 3 жыл бұрын
S1apSh0es: puts two Carl Edwards crashes as the examples of how the COT sucks bc he can do what he wants. Me, a Carl Edwards fan: *pain*
@FRONTI3R_yt
@FRONTI3R_yt 3 жыл бұрын
Just like Brian France Also this needs to be a meme lol
@marclucky5210
@marclucky5210 3 жыл бұрын
@@Carlyknarly F
@PolPotsPieHole
@PolPotsPieHole 3 жыл бұрын
@@FRONTI3R_yt lol
@bombshellmedia
@bombshellmedia 3 жыл бұрын
While the AMC Matador wasn't the best, the Javelin in trans am was pretty awesome.
@MrChristopherHaas
@MrChristopherHaas 3 жыл бұрын
First car I ever owned. God I loved it. So did the ladies
@edwardndriskoll
@edwardndriskoll 3 жыл бұрын
Factz
@rap4thahood
@rap4thahood 3 жыл бұрын
And AMC made great Jeeps too
@TiagoAlves-xl2uk
@TiagoAlves-xl2uk 3 жыл бұрын
⁹o9rque bem
@SvenJT
@SvenJT 3 жыл бұрын
I loved my '69 Javelin SST w/343 & performance option
@shackletainment
@shackletainment 3 жыл бұрын
I love the look of the Malibu (so much, I own one). My shorttrack was filled with Montes, only one guy race a MAlibu, so it stood out and looked badass.
@randymarsh-Tegridy420
@randymarsh-Tegridy420 3 жыл бұрын
Aerocars never got banned. They simply put a 305cid on aero bodied cars. Some racers tried running them in the 71 season with the displacement restrictions.
@BiodegradableYTP
@BiodegradableYTP 3 жыл бұрын
Racing logistics aside, while I was editing this video I came to like the design of the AMC Matador. It's probably because I like older car designs but it's a nice looking vehicle in my humble opinion. :^P
@thekornwulf
@thekornwulf 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don't think it's bad looking at all, it's just outdated for it's era
@ramblerdave1339
@ramblerdave1339 3 жыл бұрын
The first gen Matador was a cleaner design in '73 than the Monte Carlo or the Grand Prix, the Torino and Cyclone had slick rooflines, but the grille areas no better than the AMC. The Charger had the best aero , and was probably the best looking, but the Matador was only 366 ci, against the other's big blocks in '72-'73.
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
The original Matador "brick" had a cool red-white-blue paint sceme, and actually looked like a stock car, with the Torinos, Chevelles, Road Runners, and Chargers. But the later Matadors with round headlights were absolutely hideous. However, the ugliest brick was the Chrysler Cordoba -- with "Corinthian leather" 😀 -- even with.King Richard behind the wheel.
@DennyDeliversYT
@DennyDeliversYT 3 жыл бұрын
Gen 4: _ugly twisted sister exists…_ Chevys at Michigan 2007: *_more ugly with cursed headlights_*
@IPooopdogl
@IPooopdogl 3 жыл бұрын
Those things where tragic
@patrickracer43
@patrickracer43 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope whoever at GM who greenlit the 57 Chevy tribute got fired, and I hope Rick Hendrick, Richard Childress and Teresa Earnhardt all complained about it... because I doubt NAPA, Budweiser, Lowe's, Dupont, Kellogg's liked that abomination
@sprinterofblack8186
@sprinterofblack8186 3 жыл бұрын
How that sorry excuse of a tribute got greenlit will forever be a mystery to me. They might as well have fielded actual 1957 Chevys' and no one would've complained.
@hallo_welt_ag
@hallo_welt_ag 3 жыл бұрын
I looked it up on Google and almost puked. Man these things are horrible
@zachpeterson4519
@zachpeterson4519 3 жыл бұрын
I was so confused when I saw those back when they came out lol
@KrazeeClark
@KrazeeClark 2 жыл бұрын
The Taurus literally looks scared: 2:50 😆👍
@ragingrac3ryt894
@ragingrac3ryt894 Жыл бұрын
Lol true
@justsomemincedgarlic
@justsomemincedgarlic 3 жыл бұрын
Its really cool to see the old Nash ambassador at 9:30 with Greenville SC painted on the side. I’m a Greenville native and seeing old pics of my hometown out in the wild like this is really rare.
@neongrey784
@neongrey784 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly you opened my eyes with that last one. Grew up with those cars and had tones of diecast versions of em, but never really realized how strange they looked until now
@evanwilliams6406
@evanwilliams6406 3 жыл бұрын
I feel the same about the Ford Taurus, yeah it looked hideous but Mark Martin won 7 races in 1998 and Dale Jarrett won the 1999 championship. It beat the feathers out of the Ford Thunderbird.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@evanwilliams6406 I thought the Taurus was actually pretty damn good-looking.
@crl_rocco2396
@crl_rocco2396 2 жыл бұрын
haha me too
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 2 жыл бұрын
@Commander OOM-6 Thank you!
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 2 жыл бұрын
@Commander OOM-6 It's certainly top 5 for me. I'd have to think a bit about what I really think the best is.
@jacksonschadt7573
@jacksonschadt7573 3 жыл бұрын
I learned about the Plymouth Superbird through Richard Petty’s character in Cars, Strip Weathers.
@t-bird_guy
@t-bird_guy 3 жыл бұрын
same
@quinnlay2150
@quinnlay2150 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@summers.productions1082
@summers.productions1082 3 жыл бұрын
Bro same
@Ob1tuber
@Ob1tuber 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@RubenHernandez-lx1ej
@RubenHernandez-lx1ej 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not saying this in a mean way but you realized just now?
@fevriertheo1414
@fevriertheo1414 3 жыл бұрын
I discovered the Superbird in my early teens, and was instantly amazed at how outrageous it looked, still love the design to this day
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
What you may.not know is that Chrysler put all its NASCAR dollars into the Daytona. When Plymouth tried to get Petty out of his Torino and back into his traditional Plymouth, they asked what he wanted and he pointed to the Daytona and said "That." Thus the birth of the Superbird which then had to be built for the street in order to be eligible for racing. The street 'Birds all had vinyl roofs to cover up the welds from modifying the rear window but that was cheaper than finishing the sheet metal.
@isalt5
@isalt5 3 жыл бұрын
I find it amusing how Chrysler made ballistic missiles at one point. It reminds me of General Motors and their design and production of the M3 "Grease Gun".
@wolfgang_h3t
@wolfgang_h3t 2 жыл бұрын
1:07 Actually, the first time I saw one I absolutely loved it. That amazing wing, the muscular but also streamlined appearance.. but to be fair, the sidepipes probably helped (points to folks who know what I'm talking about) Edit: actually there was one before thatn, the king from cars, but the loved it in first sight bit is still true
@crazyadam9281
@crazyadam9281 3 жыл бұрын
80's US sedans look like they were designed by someone who tried to design a European sedan for the US from memory also while blindfolded.
@РоманБекиров-с4м
@РоманБекиров-с4м 3 жыл бұрын
While being under drugs and bitten by lenin.
@InverseWeenis
@InverseWeenis 3 жыл бұрын
That is exactly what happened, in the 80s Europe was taking domestic cars' lunch money, so most of what the big 3 made were German car knock offs
@d00dEEE
@d00dEEE 3 жыл бұрын
Take a look at the '80s Ferrari 400. This was the prototype for all those ugly ass cars.
@seventh-hydra
@seventh-hydra 3 жыл бұрын
They look like they were designed by someone who only knows how to use 90 degree angles. They're all boxy as hell.
@SamnissArandeen
@SamnissArandeen 3 жыл бұрын
@@seventh-hydra they look like someone tried to repurpose a washing machine factory to save production costs
@papadragon695
@papadragon695 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Dodge Daytona and Plymouth Superbird. But this content is great so you are forgiven
@Halfstep2024
@Halfstep2024 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not mad at slapshoes.. I think this was just his way of secretly letting us know he has a really tragic vision based disability. He can see but somewhere between his cornea and his brain the view of that car gets distorted into something ugly instead of the masterpiece it truly is.
@richardthefox3412
@richardthefox3412 3 жыл бұрын
@PapaDragon 69 He really should have put the Dodge Magnum or the Dodge Miranda on the list instead of the Superbird/Daytona. Magnum and Miranda (Along with there Chrysler counterparts) basically squashed all the success Chrysler Corporation had in NASCAR.
@Fitch93
@Fitch93 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardthefox3412 Kyle Petty told the story of what led Petty Enterprises to dump their Magnum's for Pontiac's. Typically when you did a Qualifying run or a Mock Run, you'd cut the engine as soon as you crossed the Finish Line and at Daytona, you would coast the rest of the way around. During testing Richard cut the engine at Daytona and the car rolled to a dead stop in the middle of the backstretch, they loaded up and came back to Speedweeks with Pontiac.
@mikesmith3969
@mikesmith3969 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when the Dayton and super bird came out the first one I saw was on the street I love them
@bobroberts2371
@bobroberts2371 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it ( like from the 80's ) that many wing cars sat in new car dealer show rooms for years and some had the nose and wing removed in order to make them more sellable. The only reason these cars sell for big $ today is because they were low production.
@dasborke
@dasborke 3 жыл бұрын
Awwww the Chevy Celebrity looks like it wants to be a real racecar when it grows up! (its fucking adorable...)
@kramnull8962
@kramnull8962 3 жыл бұрын
And you don't need a trailer to haul it. A shoe box will get it to the track easily...
@SamnissArandeen
@SamnissArandeen 3 жыл бұрын
I was about to say, it looked like a Chibi. They were real ahead of the game making Funko Pops of the car
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
A racecar for the Ewoks!
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious
@LotsOfToubleUsuallySerious 9 ай бұрын
1:10 lies. Like, yeah i got to see it way after its retirement, but since i saw it for the first time, i loved the looks. The Charger specifically, i don't like the black parts in the Superbird's nose cone
@davesnothereman7250
@davesnothereman7250 3 жыл бұрын
I was never a fan of the later model Nascar cars that were not real cars that you could buy at a dealer. Started with the Taurus and up to the Toyota Camry.......Me at Toyota dealer, "Um, i'll have the two door, rear wheel drive V8 Camry with the 4 speed please...".... Dealer, "get outta here son, ya bother me!" This was the point I started not caring about Nascar.
@patrickracer43
@patrickracer43 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the Xfinity series Supra didn't make this list, since it looks nothing like the GR Supra that is on the street
@Maribellopez32147
@Maribellopez32147 3 жыл бұрын
Yes its not like the one on the streets but the car is not that bad
@pauldoodnath
@pauldoodnath 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but with these current gen cars and regulations their isn't really much you can do to make it look more the road going supra
@oliviersavard8676
@oliviersavard8676 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I think the design looks like shit on the Xfinity car
@ashfreman4098
@ashfreman4098 2 жыл бұрын
They are ugly ass hell i don't no how they can call it a supra but the ugliest car has to be the new srx cars i don't no what tony was thinking there is nothing of any brand of car in them they look like homer Simpson built them
@TheNewChevyRoll48
@TheNewChevyRoll48 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw the COT I was excited because to me it looked like a GT car or something out of Need For Speed. But looking back, that car was even further from stock than the Gen 4 car and the 07-10 bumper looked awful.
@AAA310
@AAA310 3 жыл бұрын
But the wing looked sick
@plug2788
@plug2788 3 жыл бұрын
@@AAA310 facts
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet
@Waddle_Dee_With_Internet 2 жыл бұрын
I really liked it a lot as a kid back then when it was introduced.
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
It was a generamobile which evened out the field and killed any manufacturer's efforts for a competitive advantage. It isn't about the car or even the racing -- no one thinks the Camry is hot. It's all about marketing the drivers -- I wouldn't be surprised if NASCAR eliminated the roof number and replaced it with a 5 foot decal of the driver's face.
@kevinfuller8991
@kevinfuller8991 2 жыл бұрын
Thought that Wing was banned. That's right NASCAR wing.
@SamuelH
@SamuelH 3 жыл бұрын
I actually don’t mind any of these cars. Of course they probably weren’t great for drivers but looks weren’t terrible
@smittywjmj
@smittywjmj 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to race cars, it's a higher standard to meet. Putting something like an '86 LeSabre next to an '86 Monte Carlo is like putting the best-looking girl at the county fair in the Miss World competition, good on her own but just outclassed by the competition. There were definitely some cars that were ugly on the street too - like the Taurus and Thunderbird - but at the same time, nobody was entering a Country Squire into a Winston Cup race.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@smittywjmj I think the Taurus and Thunderbird were actually both quite good-looking.
@Payayaso
@Payayaso 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffshepnetwork7067 yeah they look amazing
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@Payayaso I agree. I am questioning a couple of S1apsh0es's choices.
@chetparker8251
@chetparker8251 3 жыл бұрын
What, even the Chevrolet Celebrity?
@Suzukibob69
@Suzukibob69 3 жыл бұрын
I just realized I have a model of Mark Martin’s Ford Taurus. My grand dad is a huge Mark Martin fan and gave it to me when I was a kid. I never noticed how goofy it looked lmao
@brooksrownd2275
@brooksrownd2275 3 жыл бұрын
That first matador was cool - looks like a proper muscle car. Also, the curvy coupe that replaced it a couple years later looks a lot better if you get rid of those nasty bulbous mid-1970s bumpers that ruined so many car designs of the time.
@jackarmstrong7285
@jackarmstrong7285 3 жыл бұрын
I think the current xfinity Supra is missing. I can’t stand a Sportscar being on a sedan body with no attempt on the rear ended to make it look like a Supra beyond decals
@whattheeggstr
@whattheeggstr 3 жыл бұрын
No i don't agree with You
@simoneburini4036
@simoneburini4036 3 жыл бұрын
I see what you mean. But... With the Mustang and the Camaro, it makes more sense to have the Supra instead of the Camry
@jackarmstrong7285
@jackarmstrong7285 3 жыл бұрын
@@simoneburini4036 it makes sense to have the Supra it just looks awful lol
@phoenixrising4573
@phoenixrising4573 3 жыл бұрын
The superbird? Damn...no I never thought it was ugly. Dang man...harsh, my favorite car of all time in Nascar
@frankiehumphreyiv5972
@frankiehumphreyiv5972 2 жыл бұрын
Only This Guy !
@afoxwithahat7846
@afoxwithahat7846 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankiehumphreyiv5972 one more guy
@auburnltl7452
@auburnltl7452 3 жыл бұрын
Bobby Allison’s 1987 Le Sabre actually looked better after it hit the fence at Talladega.
@BSfromCS
@BSfromCS 3 жыл бұрын
Too soon
@olgreengarageracing
@olgreengarageracing 3 жыл бұрын
yep
@BrandonA1
@BrandonA1 3 жыл бұрын
@@BSfromCS fym is 34 years "too soon"?
@BSfromCS
@BSfromCS 3 жыл бұрын
@@BrandonA1lol it's a joke
@MilesModelWorks
@MilesModelWorks 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@johnjennings8085
@johnjennings8085 2 жыл бұрын
You are so wrong the super-bird and the Daytona were the greatest cars nascar ever ran. That wing is awesome!
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 2 жыл бұрын
At least the older ones pre 90's actually looked like and used the car bodies they were built from. Where as now you have things like the fwd 4 door taurus as a 2 door rwd nascar where the bodies are near identical with simply a wrap or stickers to look like parts of a car body.
@Ziggy_Moonglow
@Ziggy_Moonglow Жыл бұрын
Yep. 1987 was the last year of "stock cars" in NASCAR. The 1988 Pontiac Grand Prix was the beginning of the end.
@gabrieldasilva3604
@gabrieldasilva3604 3 жыл бұрын
Alternate video title: S1ap roasts 10 (or 11) cars that ever competed in Nascar
@ghost-facedhindu4275
@ghost-facedhindu4275 3 жыл бұрын
0:55 *Glances at hand assembled plum crazy purple 1/24 scale Superbird* *Glances at Unsubscribe button* (Edit) Being waist deep in "Heartbeat of the South" territory, I'd need to be in protective custody after what he said about the 80s Malibu.
@kukko83
@kukko83 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not fond of the Matador in street trim, but as a race car it looks cool in my opinion.
@waynecornwell3998
@waynecornwell3998 2 жыл бұрын
I can remember in the late '70s that the Peoria Police department here in Arizona at 4:00 or 5 of those celebrities as police cars and that's the total number of cars they had and they weren't even like police specials they were all different colors and look like they just grabbed them off of the the lot and just put lights and decals on them
@Lesposito25
@Lesposito25 11 ай бұрын
The Daytona and superbird are amazing not only is it sleek it was DOMINANT. It describes nascars power and aerodynamic
@chuckiefinster544
@chuckiefinster544 3 жыл бұрын
The 98 taurus made me a fan, i liked that one enough to buy one. love these videos man keep it up! Not enough people talk about the cars as well as drivers
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
Controversial because of 4 doors? The race cars have been NO DOORS since the '70s -- the bodies are hand-fabricated.
@chuckiefinster544
@chuckiefinster544 2 жыл бұрын
@@randytaylor1258 well the car on which the race cars are based. And to be fair, the old galaxies and fairlanes and novas and luminas and regals and gran prix and torinos all had 4 door options so it wasnt a new concept
@JReaLBiz86
@JReaLBiz86 3 жыл бұрын
I have to respectfully disagree about the Daytona/Superbird. It's definitely not the prettiest car from that era, but there were loads of innovations in that car, it looks fast sitting still, and it's one of the most iconic American cars ever made. My only gripe with it is that it seemed to be 40 ft long... the thing goes on forever I never did like the style of those Tauruses. God, those bubble lights are gross smh the next design for them looked WAY better. Those ugly little Fords were fast, though The 89-94 Pontiac is one that had to grow on me, but now it's one of my favorite car designs in stock car racing. That 95 variant is an abomination. Yeesh. But the COT definitely deserves this #1 spot. As great as it was for the sport in terms of safety, it's just... God-awful. It looks like it belongs on that "NASCAR Racers" cartoon from the 2000s. Or in someone's Hot Wheels collection. Then there was that stupid spoiler that was flipping cars over if they got a little sideways. What a stupid race car.
@Audiojack_
@Audiojack_ 3 жыл бұрын
I like pretty much all of them. Except maybe the COT. The bugeyed Taurus is actually the most iconic design for me personally, because that's when I was introduced to NASCAR and it was a weird looking machine (we didn't have the Taurus here in Europe) that really caught the attention, whether good or bad.
@bkam9794
@bkam9794 2 жыл бұрын
If there's one car that I'm surprised wasn't mentioned, it would have to be the '06-'07 Dodge Charger, because the thing honestly looks like some kind of vacuum on wheels.
@terrylessmann2274
@terrylessmann2274 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. You rank the '72-'73 Matador but the majority of the track film is of the redesigned '74 that was much more rounded. Look at 4:25. I imagine it was hard to find video of 'the brick'.
@lukebreadstick56
@lukebreadstick56 3 жыл бұрын
Slap I know what’s coming with the Plymouth and I’m already upset.
@lukebreadstick56
@lukebreadstick56 3 жыл бұрын
GOD DAMN IT I KNEW IT.
@Halfstep2024
@Halfstep2024 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@sulphurous2656
@sulphurous2656 3 жыл бұрын
I immediately expected to see the winged warriors on the list because of the quote by Rathgeb
@therealfanmaster
@therealfanmaster 3 жыл бұрын
1:07 Wrong Sir, you're wrong! I happened to love the look of these cars ever since I saw them for the first time.
@crisnicolainflores2252
@crisnicolainflores2252 2 жыл бұрын
Yup I love the daytona and superbird when I was a kid than a adult I just love the big wing and the pointed nose of the car
@NASCARRebirth
@NASCARRebirth 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest, I was the exact opposite as mark martin. The second I saw the '98-'99 taurus, It was just beautiful. I like it a LOT more than the 2000-2005 taurus.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
I do agree about that original Taurus. I also like the later one, though.
@strongereveryday2302
@strongereveryday2302 3 жыл бұрын
If you think the 1998-99 Taurus you clearly have no sense of design. It is categorically and unequivocally one of the ugliest cars ever produced
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@strongereveryday2302 Bullshit. Those dual headlights are a beautiful evocation of an earlier generation of cars. That car is awesome.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
@@E1530-f6b 🧢
@Blitz6804
@Blitz6804 3 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't mention the super asymmetrical cars of the 90s.
@davidspisak8720
@davidspisak8720 3 жыл бұрын
4:54 “It’s my video and I’ll do what I want” 🤣 this is why I love SlapShoes…
@JonnyViper
@JonnyViper 3 жыл бұрын
Man. I remember hating the COT intiially but that wing really grew on me. The splitter I hate and still hate and will always hate. The splitter alone is the reason why newer fans hate grass and demand they change everything to astroturf
@davidhonkstvorisit4811
@davidhonkstvorisit4811 3 жыл бұрын
I’d say the 2013 Toyota Camry should be 10th because that front end with the headlights and Toyota thing looks as dumb as the Ford Taurus in the 90s that was already on this list.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
'90s Taurus was 🔥🔥🔥.
@S1apShoes
@S1apShoes 3 жыл бұрын
I put it at 11th
@ashenwolf98
@ashenwolf98 3 жыл бұрын
I actually didn't mind the 2013-14 Camry that much, but I probably would have considered the 2015-16 Camry for this list. Also, and this is just me personally, I'm not a big fan of the Supra in the Xfinity series, but I can see why people would like the look of it. That all being said, with Toyota specifically, I do really like the looks of the current Cup Camry as well as the 2007 pre-COT Camry.
@fluffshepnetwork7067
@fluffshepnetwork7067 3 жыл бұрын
As far as today's cup cars are concerned, I love the Mustang, I'm O.K. with the Camry and absolutely detest the Camaro. Today's Camaro is one of the worst-looking cars in NASCAR history in my opinion.
@davidhonkstvorisit4811
@davidhonkstvorisit4811 3 жыл бұрын
@@fluffshepnetwork7067 Wow really? Is it because of the pointed front end?
@spiderbhyd3
@spiderbhyd3 3 жыл бұрын
Welp we can all agree that the Chevy SS and the Monte Carlo are some of the best looking cars in nascar history
@Pensfan5919
@Pensfan5919 3 жыл бұрын
In Forza 6, I have 4 Monte Carlos. The Tide Ride, two Dale cars, and one normal car. I love how the 80s MCs looked.
@nascar_vault
@nascar_vault 3 жыл бұрын
Also ‘03 Pontiac and ‘05-‘07 Dodge
@troygroomes104
@troygroomes104 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 1960's era nascar cup cars , back when they had to use the factory engine and body. Today's cars are like the demon love child of Indy/F1 and let mons prototype
@Pensfan5919
@Pensfan5919 3 жыл бұрын
@@nascar_vault Those too. Love using the 03 Trans Am in Forza 7.
@troygroomes104
@troygroomes104 3 жыл бұрын
@A P worst car of all time, ford Toronto cup car and Toyota needs to get out of nascar
@FrankHorigan
@FrankHorigan 3 жыл бұрын
2:22 dude what the Super bird looks amazing y’all probably just don’t like classics
@brianrigsby7900
@brianrigsby7900 Жыл бұрын
0:58 come on! That’s an iconic car!
@TakushiMotors808
@TakushiMotors808 3 жыл бұрын
I’d kill for a Plymouth superbird, personally the only mopar that I’d own.
@randytaylor1258
@randytaylor1258 2 жыл бұрын
Better buy a dozen replacement noses.
@spottdog9349
@spottdog9349 2 жыл бұрын
killing for 1 is probably the only way to get one. I believe they are the most sought after and most expensive muscle cars in existence. After those is probably the '70 Plymouth Barracuda, which is my dream car and hopefully someone will just give one to me so i dont have to kill them and enjoy my dream for a couple hours before going to prison for life.
@jonathanmoothart8038
@jonathanmoothart8038 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe he started off by insulting one of my favorite cars… that’s Mr the King man!
@scarecrowr6
@scarecrowr6 3 жыл бұрын
I love the daytona and superbird they've got such unique features that actually improves the way the cars run on the tracks
@pancudowny
@pancudowny 3 жыл бұрын
4:12 - Once again, somebody can't tell the difference between a goldfish and a Parrot Cichlid! }:(
@JakeFromFarm243jdbalXD0-2gNhsC
@JakeFromFarm243jdbalXD0-2gNhsC 8 ай бұрын
for me it was the Gen 6 era, the cars to me just looked ugly and not great. The fact it lasted as long as it did surprised me as the COT era was what i liked. I thought the racing was good, especially at the super speedways. The gen 6 cars just looked like bubbles. And only got worse when they introduced the 550 package
@MMM-wg2vm
@MMM-wg2vm 3 жыл бұрын
“It’s my video and I’ll do what I want” Chad move, Slap
@olgreengarageracing
@olgreengarageracing 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you on this whole list, especially number 1. I do look back fondly on the first COT cars for the good racing but I remember absolutely hatting the way these cars looked when they were debuted.
@KatyLawson
@KatyLawson 3 жыл бұрын
None of the awful Trucks from that series history? Shocked, genuinely.
@Ob1tuber
@Ob1tuber 3 жыл бұрын
They don’t look as bad as you think
@cpMetis
@cpMetis 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how your #10 and #1 choices are the #3 and #1 best looking cars ever raced. Splitter and wing were damn stupid, but they were damn good looking.
@michaelhall736
@michaelhall736 3 жыл бұрын
I never really liked the Ford Fusions in neither of the years. I just thought they looked really ugly. I'm glad they switched to Mustangs which actually look pretty cool. I also was not a fan of the design of the Dodge Chargers from 2004. The ones from years after and even the Intrepids before looked so much better. I also didn't like the Impalas from 2010-2012. Again they just look really hideous to me. This was probably the first miss in my opinion because I loved all the designs and models of Chevy stockcars before and after the Impala except for the C.O.T. but that wasn't really Chevy's fault because they had to comply with that rule at the time. I even liked SS from 2013-2017 which everyone I know hated.
@sakshamsharma5429
@sakshamsharma5429 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dodge used Intrepids in 2004
@michaelhall736
@michaelhall736 3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamsharma5429 They used them from 2001-2003.
@sakshamsharma5429
@sakshamsharma5429 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall736 oh, didn't knew that. Thanks for clearing
@lewishw440
@lewishw440 3 жыл бұрын
The Dodge of 2004 is a Dodge Intrepid combined with Dodge Stratus
@lewishw440
@lewishw440 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelhall736 No , the Dodge 2004 is the last Dodge Intrepid ,in 2005 Dodge Introduced the New Dodge Charger with Kasey Kahne.
@Robin190T
@Robin190T 3 жыл бұрын
Getting a slapshoes notification while watching a slaphoes video , today is a great day
@unstable.musician
@unstable.musician 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@joshuastiegman7365
@joshuastiegman7365 3 жыл бұрын
The Daytona and Superbird are my single favorite Nascars of all time. Disagree heavily on that one. The rest is solid.
@gabequinn9796
@gabequinn9796 2 жыл бұрын
1:56 engineers: efficiency over aesthetics
@stephaniebooth6169
@stephaniebooth6169 7 ай бұрын
The only reason I went to a NASCAR race was to see the American Motors Matador ,I absolutely love that little car company
@typicaljarred
@typicaljarred 3 жыл бұрын
Slap, whats the font you used for "Larry Rathgeb" at 1:14 ?
@antiquesinmotion7760
@antiquesinmotion7760 3 жыл бұрын
You were very brave to do this video.
@Tayd0g
@Tayd0g 3 жыл бұрын
When I first saw strip weathers and his proud wing, it was destiny to fall in love with the superbird. Too bad theyre worth over $100k :( Also Im shocked twisted sister didn’t come up here
@oliviersavard8676
@oliviersavard8676 2 жыл бұрын
"worth over 100k" i think you're a little on the low end of how much they're worth lol
@obsidian00
@obsidian00 3 жыл бұрын
I know that beauty is subjective but…RIGHT OUT OF THE GATES!?!? The Superbird is flat out GORGEOUS!!!
@alexojideagu
@alexojideagu 3 жыл бұрын
As a British person these cars all look the same to me in each era apart from the first Plymouth. Especially compared to European Touring and Rally cars. I can't see any real difference in each era to say one is ugly and another isn't. They all just look like Nascars to me.
@thehurricaneupstairs8236
@thehurricaneupstairs8236 3 жыл бұрын
Apart from the Daytona and Superbird, I agree with your list. I feel a better car to take the place of the #10 slot could have been any other design from the 60s to the 80s. Looking at it as a young fan, the Superbird looks sleek and bad fast to me. It looks like the type of car to turn heads for all the right reasons
@RickisRetiered
@RickisRetiered 3 жыл бұрын
1:06 - 1:12 No. I thought they look badass when I first saw pictures of them as a kid, I still think they look badass now. I'm sorry, Slap. There's an opinion, and there's just being incorrect.
@simoneburini4036
@simoneburini4036 3 жыл бұрын
The last few years of the Gen 4 were just trying to prepare us for the CoT, in terms of ugliness
@tuftyterror983
@tuftyterror983 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 2002 Monte Carlo nascar and 2003-2004 one. 2006 and up was kind of ugly. I actually liked the dodge charger nascar version of the gen 4
@kodyhightower1903
@kodyhightower1903 2 жыл бұрын
@@tuftyterror983 Idk that there was ever a Monte Carlo race car model that didn't look sharp.
@tuftyterror983
@tuftyterror983 2 жыл бұрын
@@kodyhightower1903 the monte carlo looked amazing in every form from 90s to 2007
@MrDarcykampe
@MrDarcykampe 3 жыл бұрын
Top 10 ugly is anything from the late '70s on. Not even stock cars anymore, You can hardly tell these cars apart anymore.
@kevaninthe4135
@kevaninthe4135 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Charger Daytona, and the Superbird.
@QueenVoodo0
@QueenVoodo0 3 жыл бұрын
The COT may have been ugly REALLY ugly But god damn I love it, the racing it put on was great
@webby3943
@webby3943 3 жыл бұрын
I laughed way too hard at "The flying brick"
@USN_Ret-
@USN_Ret- 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe someday nascar will race stockcars again and people will start watching again.
@Lukewci
@Lukewci 3 жыл бұрын
NASCAR kinda race stock stock cars now. IMSA belongs to NASCAR now and they race GT3 cars as one of classes. GT3 cars are quite close to stock. There are also TCR races along GT World Challange America (also a GT3 series) made by Stéphane Ratel Organisation in USA. TCRs are also quite stock cars.
@nickrustyson8124
@nickrustyson8124 3 жыл бұрын
@@Lukewci Also a lot of people who complain about NASCAR cars not being stock, didn't mind in the late 80s or 90s when most of the field had cars that are only had V6s
@Lukewci
@Lukewci 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickrustyson8124 this is still valid. Both Camry and Mustang only have DOHC engines now, even 5+ litre V8 in Mustang have camshaft in head, not in block. Only GM is still using OHV in road cars because they have more important things than engines, like eg. new logo. And probably because of GM being GM we still have OHV in NASCAR.
@hemihead001
@hemihead001 3 жыл бұрын
@@nickrustyson8124 I don't remember any of the early 80's cars that were run in NASCAR that could only be had with V6's . At that time , V6's were the option not the main engine .
@nickrustyson8124
@nickrustyson8124 3 жыл бұрын
@@hemihead001 I'm talking about the late 80s, not the early 80s you wallnut, I'm talking about stuff like the 88 Buick Regal, 87 Grand Prix, Chevy Lumina, Ford Taurus, 90s Chevy Monte Carlo (Which has more wins than the 80s one)
@cheto2952
@cheto2952 2 жыл бұрын
You're wrong buddy I loved that car Dodge Daytona Since the first time I seen one, and that would be the day my dad brought one home. And thanks to my dad I still love that car today sitting in my garage.
@larryisntmynamebutyoucanca9625
@larryisntmynamebutyoucanca9625 9 ай бұрын
Yeah man, I know quite a few people who think the Plymouth Superbird looks goofy, but it has always been one of my favorite cars ever. I think it is a gorgeous car, and the wing is just an iconic statement piece. If i were filthy rich i would pay any amount of money it took to own one.
@project-japan6945
@project-japan6945 3 жыл бұрын
For someone like myself, who never grew up around NASCAR, those 80s NASCAR boxes are so American, with the huge numbers and simple paint schemes with the hundreds of rectangle sponsors on the front fenders. I truly have to admit that I like them a lot.
@Stephen97Roblox
@Stephen97Roblox 3 жыл бұрын
3:10 LOL
@moondodger5952
@moondodger5952 3 жыл бұрын
I think we all knew what number 1 was gonna be. Every car on the field looked like similar bricks with different manufacturer logos, though I do respect the safety aspects of it (obviously excluding the wing).
@AFinnGundam
@AFinnGundam 9 ай бұрын
this is probably very controversial, but i personally like how the 98-99 Taurus looked, specifically the Nascar version, it just looks good. also, ask any kid who's seen the first cars movie, and there's probably a high chance that one of their favorite cars was king (Dodge Daytona/Plymouth Superbird)
@papawoody9597
@papawoody9597 3 жыл бұрын
"When you first saw these cars, you did not like them". You got that part right. I LOVED them. As a kid, I remember seeing a Superbird on the street. It was the coolest car I had ever seen. It looked like the car a super hero or a spy would drive. Like it should be able to fly, go underwater, and shoot rockets at bad guys. Totally agree on the 1998 Taurus. Take a street car that looks like it was designed by a blind monkey and turn it into a race car (a four door abomination of a race car) and it doesn't get any better. The Delta 88 and Le Sabre looked like ass, but what do you expect from a racecar based on the cars that you saw driving with their blinker on all the way to the bingo parker, where grandma kind of got it into a parking space. Dealers had signs that said "You must be this old to buy this car" on the showroom. If you weren't at least 70, they wouldn't sell you one. The Celebrity looked the same going forward and backwards. The COT had a wing that looked like something a 17 year old Asian kid would order off of ebay and put on his hand me down Accord trying to make it cool, along with 37 stickers on the windows and a "Powered by Honda" windshield banner and fake V-TEC badges.
@simoneburini4036
@simoneburini4036 3 жыл бұрын
About the Taurus: do you know which parts of the race car had to be the same of the road car in the late 90s? I've searched everywhere and I still haven't found any clear answer.
@Chicken_Wing91
@Chicken_Wing91 3 жыл бұрын
I’m probably one of the few people who loved the 98-99 Taurus lol the NASCAR versions were good but my aunt had a 98-99 Taurus and that sum bitch was oooglay
@papercrane747
@papercrane747 3 жыл бұрын
I love the nascar redition but the road going one is shit.
@tuftyterror983
@tuftyterror983 3 жыл бұрын
@@papercrane747 yes. The nascar edition is still a little bit bad, but WAY cooler then the street version
@tuftyterror983
@tuftyterror983 3 жыл бұрын
the 2000-2005 taurus nascar is WAY better than the 98-99 one. But that street version of the tuarus is ugly.
@81casperflip
@81casperflip 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be waiting for the top 10 best looking cars!
@boogernights1
@boogernights1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the COT is an eye sore. I remember seeing it and thinking "I think my grandma has a sedan like that." Lol I get that edges=SLOW but the cars just didn't look tough anymore like they did in the 90s and 2000s. Throw in that they all look the same regardless of make and model and you have quite a corporate look to everything that used to make the sport cool and fundamentally interesting
@KristofferEk
@KristofferEk 3 жыл бұрын
that means the Amc Matador is the bastard grand son of the Hudson hornet.
@johnmanley7859
@johnmanley7859 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid in the seventies' before the race at Riverside International Raceway they had a parade lap of cars on the track. My favorite part was the Daytona Superbird club . I don't remember how many but it was more than a few cars.
@loaf_ve
@loaf_ve 3 жыл бұрын
honestly I disagree with the Dodge Daytona/Plymouth Superbird as well as the COT cars. While yes, the cot is a very dangerous car, it’s pretty good in races (most race leads in them) And the Daytona and superbird, they were good too, What do you think of my opinion (if you see this) s1ap?
@81casperflip
@81casperflip 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of these ugly cars were pretty good in races but... still ugly
@loaf_ve
@loaf_ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@81casperflip that is very true. Such as COT cars as I was talking about.
@smittywjmj
@smittywjmj 3 жыл бұрын
@@loaf_ve But the whole point of the list is cars that are ugly irrespective of how good/bad they were on the track. So you just agreed with everything he said in the video, the CoT and Chrysler aero cars made pretty good racing, they were just ugly.
@pp3k3jamail
@pp3k3jamail 3 жыл бұрын
The car of tomorrow was trash. It's not a coincidence NASCAR started to go down as soon as that car unveiled.
@loaf_ve
@loaf_ve 3 жыл бұрын
@@pp3k3jamail I respect that opinion, but what about the 2010 Aarons 499
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