Top 10 Units - Blood Angels (10th Edition)

[@MichaelFallone]

You're killing it, John - thank you! I won my first 10th Edition game last week; your guidance and enthusiasm is very much appreciated.

[@ba_commander]

Congrats man :) Glad I could help out!

[@deandeville13dd]

What was the army set did you used?

[@keithpascoe8348]

I’d like to see you do a review on the BA list that won a gt that had no death company and ran a bunch of assault intercessors!

[@BA_Baldy]

Smart list. That’ll be all we have when the new codex comes out 😂

[@ca11rl77]

@BA_Baldy oh yeah. Dc are gone or made so bad you have to buy the new ones

[@lewiscowface]

You can tell from the smile you display at the start of the video, that you are excited as well for the release of the Blood Angels in summer! The rumours are stirring my inner red thirst!

[@codyott1982]

I haven't heard this rumor, and I can't find anything about it. Just curious because I'd like to check it out.

[@pathartley1430]

​@@codyott1982watch Valrack videos. He is in the know of upcoming gw releases and has been talking about a blood angel release at the end of summer!!! I'm crazy excited myself

[@laughingman4570]

​@@codyott1982 Chapter Master Valrak has heard the whispers in the warp. The foil never lies.

[@codyott1982]

@@laughingman4570 I will check it out

[@xXbillthekillXx]

@@codyott1982 Valrak leaked it and he's rather sure the rumors are true. He has a rather good track record of all of his "whispers in the warp" becoming actual releases so I'd say it's pretty credible.

[@danielpaoli1093]

One blood angels specific character that I never leave home without. Is the Sanguinary priest. This model, whether it be on foot or with a jump pack gives so much survivability and lethality to the units that he can go into. It is stupid. Currently I'm running a priest with jump pack with a captain and a unit of 10 Vanguard veterans all equipped with storm shields. It does suck when I'm in sustain combats because I have no pistols outside of the characters, however having a four-up invulnerable safe along with a five up. Feel no pain is such an annoyance to my opponent. And I can't tell you how many times my opponents have focused fired. Trying to kill down this one unit because of how annoyingly hard they are to kill that. It has left the rest of my army free about to do whatever it is that they need to do. I also personally think the sanctuary priest is also most effective inside a unit of stern guard veterans, but I think this is really just my personal belief because I really like the stern guard veterans models and I really like them as a utility shooting unit because they do have assaults and if they ever make combats, they're not going to be horrible with their close combat weapons because on the charge they're going to have five attacks each at strength 6 and AP- 1.

[@Delta285]

I had my 10 vanguard vests, captain, and Sanguinary priest kill a full strength canis rex

[@codyott1982]

My list is jump intercessors, dc with jump packs, van vets with shields, infiltrators, and 2 gladiators (one lancer and one reaper) then 2 chaplains 2 sang priests, and a Capt, all with jump packs. Its like 59 jump packs, 5 guys for deep strike denial, and two tanks. My list has 29 wins and zero losses

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Nice Gladiator Reaper inclusion...I approve! 😉🌪🔨 (Thoughts on running a Techmarine to combo with it for the +1 to hit...? )

[@jameskillbot2867]

Anything I thought was also great were right in the honorable mentions! Awesome list.

[@danielpaoli1093]

A unit that I am finding that I am loving more and more. Every time I use it is a blade guard lieutenant character that's based Marines can field the fact that he gives the blade guard veterans the ability to fall back shoot and redeclare a charge while also having lethal hits is such a huge buff to the blade guard. And then by proxy, obviously the blade guard veterans are always going to have a little warm fuzzy place in my heart. I personally always have them inside a landrader. That way they are perfectly protected from the elements and when they need to they can come out and strike. Their. Only downfall that I have noticed is whenever I take mortal wounds there's literally nothing they can do. Otherwise, them having a foreign and three wounds with the ability to reroll a fail wound role of one and combat. Are they the greatest unit? No. But they are definitely a unit that I will never leave home without.

[@theta1672]

I'm completely new to playing Blood Angels, but I absolutely LOVE their chapter and lore. Just found your channel, and I want to thank you for lending me the wisdom to crush my enemies in glorious combat FOR SANGUINIUS!!!

[@ba_commander]

Welcome to the chapter my friend glad you found us! Check out the discord!

[@codyott1982]

I subscribed a long time ago. Even though our strategies are completely different, i like to hear your takes on it. That said, i think the game is pretty balanced right now. It seems as long as you build your list to fit your tactics, then you can practice and get good. I do believe that necrons need some nerfs, and some armies are a bit weak, but its getting closer.

[@troublemaker9899]

I think that the librarian Dreadnought with wings of sanguinius is often better as an opportunistic ability rather than one that you Center the list around. My favorite use for The Librarian Is as a psychic / mortal wound buff wound protection for a bunch of vehicles, and then he is really good at warping objective controlling intercessors out to an objective that you just took the turn before.

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Interesting take… How do you find its offensive output mixing it in the midfield…?

[@arcturus7940]

What is your opinion on the death company and redemptor dreadnoughts? I found them to work very well for me in the past, and have used the redemptor over the ballistus due to it's capability in both melee (making use of red thirst) and ranged, as well as the -1D making it very durable. I think I should dust off my Baal predator! Excellent video, subscribed :)

[@ba_commander]

I like the desk company dread because of the 7 inch reserve charge. Unfortunately, haven’t really tested the redemption in 10th edition.

[@mjolnert4017]

hello, I was starting bloody angels right now after many years disconnected from the hobby, I am a competitive player and the problem I see with the company of death is that looking at what gw has done with other boxes... it gives me that this 10 fist option is going to end soon, because they are only making what comes in the box count, not to mention that they can become primaris I find it difficult to make lists without them or including only 10... for fear of buying things that will soon be useless.

[@JohnnyCoyote]

Vindicator Siege Shield actually ignores the -1 to hit when shooting while in engagement range. Also very nice video, one can really see your excitement and it's infectious. Now I want to finish two squads of Bladeguard to run them up the board in a Redeemer and slice and torch things.

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Nice video BAC! Definitely need a follow up to discuss the Capt + Assault Int drive by some in current meta...

[@ba_commander]

5 or 10 man?

[@HighlandPhoenix]

@@ba_commander MSU 5s with Capts... a few high placing lists with multiple and Impulsors too!

[@pathartley1430]

I use them playing against the guard. Playing a bunch of toughness 3 and 1 wound opponents don't need the firepower of death company.

[@curtcleancut]

Fairly new BA player here and new to the game itself. Love the channel and I’m learning a lot. Keep up the great work.

[@ba_commander]

Welcome aboard!

[@MadDawgWes]

Hey John! I am new to Warhammer 40k and have been loving all the Blood Angel videos you are making. Thank you for all the information, I am trying to be a fellow Blood Angel Commander too. I have a request of you, if you can? Could you put photos up of the models alongside the names and stats when you go over each unit in your videos? It would help a total new player "me" out in learning what the units look like. If you can't I understand but thank you for all the epic videos! Please keep up the great work!

[@ba_commander]

I hadn't considered this before, I might do in the future, thanks for the suggestion and welcome to the channel :)

[@stuartbeats9925]

Great video and well timed as Im trying to put together a 1500 list. Being new i dont have older kits and somewhat hesitant investing in the DC with the codex imminent.. I have converted 5 PF and Inf Pistol to have fun with. Great stuff as always and the only source of BA info i refer too. Thanks.

[@ba_commander]

There’s been so many rumours about new death company models. Unfortunately, I don’t have any information to share on that. I’m not affiliated in anyway with GW.

[@michaelglassockcoaching]

Birthday coming up in two weeks! Glad to see some of the hints I've mentioned are on this list 😂

[@ba_commander]

🎉

[@nathanbeit-aharon7335]

You turned me on to the vindicator tank some time ago. I tried it out at my local tourney and went 3-0, a great improvement! On several occasions the vindicator (and its rhino friends) charged and shut down melee units meant to kill infantry in detachments that didn't have a fall-back-and-act stratagem. A great suggestion! I don't own and haven't tried Lamartes, but I hear he transforms his unit. I was surprised he didn't get a mention.

[@ba_commander]

I was mainly focused on units and not characters! Lemartes is generally great! So glad to hear the Vindicator turned out well for you.

[@asaucedude]

Always great content. Thanks Commander!

[@ba_commander]

My pleasure!

[@zweinfist441]

How do you feel about the Death Company Dreadnought? I was thinking either running him as a "distraction carnifex" or 2x5 Jump Assault as chaff and cheap secondary grabbers.

[@badfrancis2517]

Great video, John. Very helpful!

[@codyott1982]

Run one lancer and one reaper, the reaper gets enough shots that ive managed to take 2 wounds off of a ctan before i fired the onslaughts. Sure, that was lucky, but still. Plus, blood angels melee is good enough to handle high toughness things fairly easy. In the end, its nice when my gladiators kill things, but i really need them to be my enemies focus until i move my jump troops.

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Another BA player, Chris Chance, also did well in a recent tournament with a Repear, but he even ran a Techmarine to combo with it for the +1 to hit to increase Dev Wound chance rolls... You reckon that is worth the additional 55 points (he also repairs, can do actions and fight I suppose)?

[@DMHightower]

I love the videos by the BA Commander!! Keep it up, John!

[@ba_commander]

Thanks, will do!

[@Speargrass2015]

Hi Jon, Here's another list developed to 1500. I had a Calidus and some Eradicators but they didn't work out too well. Changed up for extra Vindicator. Chaplain with 5 man DC, Lemartes with 10 man DC Sanguinor is in reserve to backup either 5 man DC, Bladeguard, Scouts or Intercessors in melee. A sort of fights first upgrade falling from the heavens. DC Dread is in reserve to threaten enemy armour from edges or running into opponents backfield T3 10 Man DC and 2 vindicators deal damage. Intercessors hold backfield objective Scouts score 5 man DC score or bully chaff units Bladeguard plug holes or contest objectives with backup from Sanguinor What's your thoughts on the list and what do you suggest to make up 2000 points please? 1500 Sons (1495 Points) Blood Angels Sons of Sanguinius Strike Force (2000 Points) CHARACTERS Chaplain with Jump Pack Warlord Lemartes The Sanguinor Intercessor Squad Bladeguard Veteran Squad Death Company Dreadnought Twin Fists, Melta, Heavy flamer, Magna-grapple 5 Death Company with Jump Packs Inferno pistols, Power fists 10 Death Company with Jump Packs Inferno pistols, Power fists 5 Scout Squad, shotguns Vindicator Vindicator

[@ba_commander]

On tonight's show!

[@codyott1982]

Blade guard with a captain and red rampage will kill several death guard terminators, and enough will survive the swing back that you should wipe the squad by fallback& charge+ red rampage.

[@prudentparatrooper385]

So, to give you my perspective. I'm not actually a BA player. I'm a BT player, but because the two overlap so much, your videos are helpful. Espically when it comes to durability videos which includes most of the units I have access too. The biggest key is the deep dives you do to actually show tlhiw you came to your conclusions. Not just shield guard are more durable against X cause I said.

[@ba_commander]

Glad my videos have helped you out too my friend :)

[@Artful_Simian]

Great content! Im doing research before I grab my first Warhammer and Im going with BA's even though I know they're not considered in the top percentage armies. I just liked the look and wanted something sort of classic for a first army(like I know what classic is in WH🤣).Anyway I subbed from two accounts and liked the vid on both👍🤟

[@ba_commander]

Welcome to the channel and the game! Glad you found us! Did you join our discord?

[@Artful_Simian]

@@ba_commander Just joined! Thanks for the invite!

[@xxSandt21xx]

I’m super new to the game and this channel has been a godsend in helping my understand the game. The one criticism I have with this list is that you didn’t include which box’s and sets these units come in. For example, where do I get scouts?

[@ba_commander]

Hi my friend and welcome to the channel. The scouts are currently in a Kill Team box. elementgames.co.uk/games-workshop/warhammer-40k/space-marines/kill-team-space-marine-scout-squad?d=10504

[@thetrueteebs1338]

I love the list! Was wondering why you don't have thr DC Dread on the list. Its special rule superceding the "only attack once" rule feels pretty powerful

[@ba_commander]

You know it is pretty good tbh

[@GunumGH]

You have been running a normal Land Raider as well, I had seen that was not put into the honorable mentions. Has it fallen out of favor?

[@liepsan]

That's what I would like to know. Space for 14 Infantry vs 12 and 12 Movement vs 10. In return the normal Landraider is cheaper and gives you 2 juicy Godhammer Lascannons. Is the Redeemer really so much better?

[@ba_commander]

I have one of each on my list, I like them both. Honestly surprising, not many people rate the regular one I think it’s legitimately useful!

[@dyvimtvar9289]

I cant shake the feeling that theres something to assault centurians in SoS, especially paired with the libby dread. Obviously the meme version of that is to just run 17 assault centurions (you run one squad a man short so they can fit in the land raider crusader for applying mid board pressure obviously) and then whatever actually good units you can fit around that, but who would be stupid enough to try something like that 👀

[@ba_commander]

I only own three assault centurions, but I am running them in my 2k list! I like them, but they’re Hella slow

[@MrGunman999]

Question. With the lib dread in sons of sanguinius detachment. If a charge is made with him does he get the +1 attack on all his melee weapons?

[@ba_commander]

No his extra attack weapon is limited to one attack. He can get the bonus attack with his fist.

[@keithpascoe8348]

Glory by the blood

[@LordAchaeron]

I haven't subscribed tbh although i watch your videos , because i didn't need to.. my youtube algorithm pops up your new videos on my mobile every time along with other channels i watch, like auspex, luetin etc.. but i did anyway. I subscribed 😊

[@ba_commander]

Thanks for your support :) I do appreciate it!

[@keithpascoe8348]

Never liked the looks of inceptors. Never used them as the rule of cool overrides their meta op

[@adamcharman8726]

Basing making such a difference with those guys. Just hanging there on a flight stand, they look terrible, but interacting with some scenery? Way better

[@colbybastian17]

Inceptors are one of the coolest looking units in the game for me. Absolutely love them.

[@StanwiseGamgee]

Inceptors just make the cut for me. Suppressors look stupid as hell. They're still on the sprue from the Shadowspear box I bought like 5-6 years ago

[@laughingman4570]

Their armor looks too round and chunky I'll give it to ya. But i do like the look of plasma guns and jump packs.

[@colbybastian17]

@laughingman4570 They look like actual traditional Astronaut suits, which makes sense for the meteoric decent style

[@GunumGH]

All right dangit, I'll subscribe.

[@ba_commander]

Thanks bro!

[@HighlandPhoenix]

💪

[@stephenleggett4243]

Handy vid and nicely done.

[@Elmarto14]

Emperor give me power to not be meta chaser and not buy any landrider.

[@MikelTulp]

Does a 10 count death company kit come with ten power fists?

[@ba_commander]

It does not :(

[@josephperry3700]

Maybe feature a subscribers paint job per video? That way people will want to subscribe and they'll tune in to see if they're featured???

[@mattcharles3514]

@ba_commander you are definitely missing assault intercessors and my favourite assault intercessors with jump packs

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Yeah I thought they'd be both in instead of something like the Inceptors in the vid...

[@ba_commander]

Are chainswords really that exciting? My experience has them bouncing of stuff even like T7 after playing LANCE.

[@eod5762]

I thought they got rid of the Death company Dreadnought, the librarian dreadnought and the Furioso dreadnought in 10th edition?

[@ba_commander]

They did we have a new death company dreadnought this is an older video.

[@CERBERASX01]

Jokes on you I already subscribed and because I did I started winning games or maybe it was the +2 to strength 😅

[@ba_commander]

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

[@johnaxios6335]

I honestly think you're sleeping on the basic Assault Intercessors. For only 150 pts you get at least 49 attacks with reroll hits (Oath) and, more importantly, reroll 1s/all wound rolls. The kicker is that you can add a Captain for a free Lance and Lethal Hits, and add a Priest for +1 AP and 5+ FNP. They hit like a Train out of a Land Raider and can surprisingly survive a lot with the priest and a free AoC.

[@ba_commander]

I’ve ran them in the weekly battle report. When you get charged they are only S4 I think that’s their big weakness.

[@adamcharles9936]

I am new to Warhammer and am wanting to make my first Blood Angels Army. Does anyone know of a good Army list that I should build please?

[@ba_commander]

I have a whole playlist on the main page of the channel of tournament winning lists, as well as a few other videos about 1000 and 2000 point lists.

[@Speargrass2015]

Thanks

[@ba_commander]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@thericter]

What about Reivers?

[@ba_commander]

I hope you’re joking… they kinda suck.

[@jamesgibb5762]

Re: subscribing... When I stay away with work and use the hotel's smart TV I never login so I'm afraid you get views without a subscribe in that scenario

[@ba_commander]

I guess that makes sense :) I had never thought of that!

[@NotableEcho]

9:20 Yeah little late but sorry about that lol

[@MariusGage]

Hello, it’s me Garius Mage, I’d subscribe if we get more Ultramarines! 😂

[@ba_commander]

Ok I can try!

[@HighlandPhoenix]

Our BA heavy support have blue helmets, does that count...?! 😅 Go on......! 😃

[@NicC49]

I feel like there isn’t a reason to take bg vets over jump pack intercessors, bg are worse on melee, shooting, movement and total wounds for 5 more points more

[@ba_commander]

Worse on melee? 6 BGV can do 60 damage at AP 2. The max assault Intercessors can do is 52 even if you include 10mw which is highly unlikely, they also have less strength, Less Ap and no invuln save. I think BGV are one of the best melee units we have.

[@NicC49]

@@ba_commander problem with 6 is that's 180 points of investment (plus transport and lieutenant). Then they aren't a low point skirmishing unit like 2 units of Jp intercessors that can match 80-110% melee, imo.

[@NicC49]

Granted significantly worse against custodes and world eaters, but that's what death company are for.

[@ba_commander]

@@NicC49 your call obviously. Personally I much prefer the BGVs and have tried them both in my SoS list.

[@xXbillthekillXx]

Didn't think of the plasma pistol thing, good info appreciate it!

[@DrAculushka]

1 death 2 company 3 with 4 jump 5packs 6 power 7fists 8and 9inferno 10pistol Don’t thank me

[@ba_commander]

lol :)

[@rikhansen4574]

Gabriel Seth......#1

[@croftyprojects]

Pretty sure fights first doesn't activate the SoS detachment bonuses, as the unit hasn't completed a charge move that turn

[@ba_commander]

That’s correct. Why do you think it does?

[@shadowknght22]

Missed the sanguinor? He is like in every winning BA tournament list

[@ba_commander]

He’s a character, not a unit right?

[@shadowknght22]

@@ba_commander oh I see I thought it was just global my apologies

[@Astartesparty]

John you’re upsetting me because you live too far away to play a game of Warhammer with an have a pint with 😂

[@thetyrantofsyracuse]

Firtsborn only. Dont be a red ultramarine. 👍

[@Speargrass2015]

Thanks