Top 10 Worst Flip Monsters in YuGiOh

[@SlamTackle]

The real difficulty in running Castle of Dark Illusions is that you have to play around the fact that your opponent might use Catapult Turtle to launch their Dragon Champion towards your castle, shattering its floatation ring, thereby causing it to collapse on top of your monsters.

[@DuraluminBurner]

You only have to worry about that if you trap your monsters inside a huge yellow shield like a dumbass. I personally just let my opponent kill all my monsters first so they won't be crushed and cause me to lose the game.

[@filipvadas7602]

Man, Duelist Kingdom was WILD It was baaically D&D with Yugioh monsters.

[@livingmaulana]

@@filipvadas7602 it kinda make sense considering the last game Yugi played in the manga before going full children card games is D&D with (Yami) Bakura as the GM

[@filipvadas7602]

@@livingmaulana kinda makes you wonder why they never expanded on the idea. Same with Dice Monsters. A few rule changes and you have yourself 2 new card/dice games

[@lightdragoon88]

@@filipvadas7602 That because that is exactly what it was in the Manga. Back then Duel Mosters (or Monster and Magic) was D&D with both players being the "Dungeon Master" and the cards were the 'character sheets' and you had to try to out DM'd the other. That why we had things like "Water increase electricity moves", The "Floating Rings" and of course "ATTACK THE MOON"

[@varkolak7779]

I remember that in the anime Castle of Dark Illusions covered your monsters in the darkness, so your opponent cannot see them, so people in my school used a big book to cover the cards on the field to imitate the effect, that was the early days of Yu-Gi-Oh!

[@johnbakasmoothhotchocolate]

Yep, I remember that too with Panik. I actually thought that was a dope card to use and protect my monsters that are very visible on my field. And the floatation ring thing around it was wonderful.

[@fr05tyx98]

The good days.

[@mpunktderfassoffner6434]

U cant imagine how often my Monsters got rotten from inside by a big ass mammoth wich was shot into my Monster by an arrow

[@HoveringAboveMyself]

Konami really did Castle of Dark Illusions dirty, not only they lowered its stats they gave it a completely different and very bad flip effect, how hard would it have been to make it so your opponent can't attack any of your other monsters (while keeping the 2500DEF) and then have it blow up and your field if you received damage? It wouldn't have been good but it would have kept the spirit of the manga/anime.

[@SlamTackle]

I remember at school when people played Castle of Dark Illusions we would use Catapult Turtle to launch our Dragon Champion towards their castle, shattering its floatation ring, thereby causing it to collapse on top of their monsters.

[@TheDuelLogs]

So I had to re-write the #4 and #9 spots, and then just swap their places, as well as re-did a small segment in the #8 spot which directly refenced something that was no longer in the video after the re-write. In case you were wondering why I reuploaded it.

[@rainbowdragon168]

Ok 👍

[@Seifer911]

Yeah when I saw Jigan that low I was like: "What? No, that card is terrible"

[@arkz-nero9674]

Don't you mean "Flip" thier places? I'll be here all night, folks!

[@Hugelag]

Everyone makes mistakes.

[@Greg501-]

9:30 Duelist Kingdom rules were never in the TCG. Also, Dragon Piper is from Metal Raiders, the second core TCG set.

[@whiplash308]

I’m an old timey Yu Gi Oh dude, who remembers literally every one of these cards. Anything past the original synchro dragons is pretty much new to me. This video hit all the good stuff.

[@rcarfang2]

i stopped playing after XYZ was introduced XD

[@enlongjones2394]

Man, Dragon Piper got nerfed bad in the real game. In the anime, Pegasus was going to use it to take control of the dragons he sealed into Dragon Capture Jar.

[@matteste]

I had an idea for a possible list: "Top Ten modern cards that would have been bad if they released in old YuGiOh." Basically a sort of opposite to "bad old cards that turned good." A list that focuses on cards the rely on the current nature of the meta to be viable.

[@yugimumoto1]

Ash blossom would most definitely be one. I don't think people would have ran it back then just to stop the occasional recruitment monster or draw card, when they were more concerned with getting handlooped

[@matteste]

@@yugimumoto1 Nibiru The Primal Being would be another one as chains would hardly ever get high enough in the old days to make such a card viable.

[@youtube-kit9450]

@@AT-il2ej You can't ash blossom mystic tomato's effect...

[@zaid_alhelu]

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[@DukeSkylocker]

Fun fact about Jigen Bakudan, it's one of the few cards where the anime version is somehow worse. In the anime, not only does it destroy all cards on your side of the field but the owner of whatever monsters destroyed takes damage equal to their attack. In other words, unless you found some way to take control of your opponent's monster(s) (as Pegasus did with Relinquished) you would be the way taking the burn damage. It was also even slower as two full turns had to pass before it would activate. The reason why they did that is because in the anime Pegasus attaches it to Relinquished to prevent Yugi from attacking it (this was season 1 after all) but Yugi countered with Brain Control to steal Relinquished along with it's materials (Dark Magician and Jigen Bakudan). This meant they had to give a reason why Yugi didn't just let the timer go off, instead offering it and Dark Magician as Ritual material for Magician of Black Chaos just seconds before the clock struck 0 (again, this was season 1)

[@arachnofiend2859]

That feel when you haven't played Yugioh since you were a child on the elementary school playground and you remember having several of these cards and knowing they sucked even back then

[@rescuerex7031]

Dark Illusion comboed with Pumpking the King of Ghosts was a Broken Elementary Combo, but yeah the rest of these except maybe Bite Shoes aren't even good in playground Yugioh

[@joshuakim5240]

@@rescuerex7031 It's interesting and kind of funny to think that Castle + Pumpking was sort of the first zombie deck staple in the super early days and still not even a good one in the standards back then.

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@joshuakim5240 tbh idk how that would even be legitimate unless no one had summoned skull or any equip cards lol

[@joshuakim5240]

@@kingofgrim4761 Pretty much the "best" way to set this up was to put down a ton of battle traps to stave off Summoned Skulls...then still lose to Summoned Skulls because 100 attack per turn isn't turning any low level zombies into anything remotely useful enough to beat the things being staved off.

[@Yata-Garasu]

"Hey, i've seen this one! It's a classic" "What do you mean you've seen this? It's brand new" Jokes aside, i'm sad you had to record again

[@jar_knight]

TheDuelLogs activated the Trap Card "I'm fixing some errors made in the old version but will still keep it up to show I admit to my mistakes and worked to correct them.".

[@jamesbrown-fb1gk]

and then showing an example that doesnt work

[@smashlekrakmeme7401]

I absolutely remember seing someone doing things in Duel Links with Fire Sorcerer, Reverse Reuse and probably some Neos/Keeper engine to dump the Sorcerers in the gy. Not quite strong but pure nuts when it resolves

[@yugimumoto1]

I used it in metaphys decks on their but lady assailant ended up just being better overall. It still won me games occasionally if I had gotten rid of the cards I didn't want banished

[@Carlitonsp1]

On Castle's weird stats: They're meant to becomes close an even number if you increase it by 30%. (2509)

[@Carlitonsp1]

@@nmr7203 it's a weird attempt at matching the Duelist Kingdom stats in the Manga, where Castle had 1200 ATK/2500 DEF.

[@HoveringAboveMyself]

@@Carlitonsp1 Yeah, "the night" wasn't a field power bonus in the manga like it was in the anime so they nerfed the stats of all of Panik's monsters and ended up with odd numbers.

[@dosbilliam]

@@Carlitonsp1 It also goes into the older games like Dark Duel Stories where the improvement from field effects was that percentage because the overall rules weren't really decided on at that point. :P

[@aletheia2742]

Bro give your editor a raise, he put rain on the background when Weather Report was on the screen...

[@YamiVT]

Big Eye was actually used in some very fringe decks that topped back in 2006. It helped to dig for important cards

[@Zudo9280]

iirc castle's stat gains only apply to monsters that were on board when it was flipped,making it literal garbage

[@coffeebean2]

Only OGs remember the first upload

[@petar14]

yea it was few hours ago

[@MASTERib]

I have dawnload the first one

[@zeusalternative1270]

@@MASTERib Release it please

[@killwillv2610]

Who cares?

[@petar14]

@@killwillv2610 not you

[@TheCburg10]

Bro, I ABSOLUTELY LOVE how well your backgrounds always match the card artworks color scheme!!! The backgrounds on this channel are awesome to look at!!

[@Mboone1994]

I remember when I was a kid I thought Big Eye was so broken lmao

[@Andrew-ht2br]

Same here

[@leonardoandreoliveiracorre5286]

Well, I think re-arranging your cards can be pretty useful on a Diamond Turbo deck... But, as was said on the video, there's a lot of cards that can do this, but much better.

[@coricos9849]

B-but it can take control of your monsters Wait a second...

[@MrKaiser99]

@King of The Zinger p

[@dosbilliam]

I'm surprised The Immortal of Thunder wasn't on this list, since it does give you 3K LP when it's flipped, but that whole deals 5K on destruction makes it kind of wonky to really use without kneecapping yourself.

[@AT-il2ej]

Immortal of thunder + macro cosmos = all the life points

[@yugimumoto1]

@@AT-il2ej now if we could only give the same effect to the opponent and set up simochi

[@ryhi5]

I know for sure that if we ever get a list of the best Flip Effect Monsters, Subterror Guru will definitely be Number 1 or at least very close!

[@faceless2386]

Fiber jar would be number 1 , but I'm pretty sure guru would be #2

[@ryhi5]

@@faceless2386 Fiber Jar, Cyber Jar, Morphing Jar. Any of those could end up higher than Guru. I'd also expect at least one Shaddoll monster somewhere on the list

[@dracometeors3010]

Deus X should get his spot too.

[@brandenharned7004]

@@ryhi5 Gravekeeper's Spy will probably be somewhere early (10 or 9); it has an amazing effect for Gravekeeper decks and great Defense with Necrovalley, it's just too slow.

[@SproingBoing]

I can imagine Fire Sorcerer getting banned in an alternate universe where some combo consistent enough exists to just dump your opponents cards before they can go. Maybe it involves Shapesnatch or something, idk

[@YataLock98]

technically, Fire sorcerer was banned in Battle city arc , Kaiba mentioned in the Yugi vs Jonouchi duel that cards which inflict directl damage to life points are banned during battle city

[@TheLaGangjShow]

Dragon Piper was released in the second Yu-Gi-Oh TCG set Metal Raiders. I don’t think it saw much competitive play but it would be a good tech card to have for players who use Dragon Capture Jar

[@Kylora2112]

Side decking for the side deck...500 IQ play for Table 500 =D

[@TheLaGangjShow]

@@Kylora2112 lol 😂 there are a few hoops to cross before this card becomes viable lol staple card in every deck lol

[@pietzychannel]

My freind had almost all dragon so he used that card. He won 2 tournaments as well

[@TheLaGangjShow]

@@pietzychannel Wow that’s pretty cool. I remember when Pegasus used it in the anime. I liked playing Dragon Piper in decks in Forbidden Memories and Sacred Cards for its sheer defense lol

[@rossjohnstone4689]

I'm so glad this was uploaded. This is just what I needed during my break at work :3

[@jaren12072]

your voice really calming, and relaxing, after a stressful day I can put one of your videos, and sooth my soul. Keep the great work love you're videos.

[@gawrshurab1035]

Not really Dragon Piper in the anime/manga was more like broken combo piece, they use dragon jar to "trap" dragons and then play Piper to steal those dragons, it was like a masive change of heart for dragons, but konami told us that we suck and give us this trash

[@Rbibaseball57]

Right in the anime didn't Pegasus use this combo against Kaiba to get one of his Blue-Eyes and turn it into a blue-eyes toon dragon?

[@KaoruMzk]

Even if it worked like in the anime, it would still be a 2-card combo that depends on your opponent playing a specific deck, i.e, still bad.

[@xCorvus7x]

@@KaoruMzk Nowadays. Back in the day it was pretty common to play Blue-Eyes, or face one, and since the game was much slower, not using all your cards to the fullest wasn't that bad.

[@angeldeandagomez5603]

You miss the third effect of Castle of Dark Illusions if the circle around it is destroyed it destroyed all the monsters

[@warriormarshal9435]

That is in the anime though, not its irl counterpart unless you are joking.

[@agitpolat1061]

You mean that third Effect it never actually had? Because in the Anime, that only happened because Panik had another Card in play that accidentally prevented his Monsters from, well, not being stuck directly under it :P

[@danielak1666]

I think you means "if the circle around it is destroyed while your monster can't move by the effects of sword of revealing light"

[@biobroly9324]

I've always wondered if Big eye is smiling or glaring

[@KhoiLe-gq5rd]

protip: put jigen bakudan in your deck. your opponent will stop attacking you for 2 turns out of pity.

[@Adan-ke4sx]

I missed the old days where the first upload was still available

[@Yata-Garasu]

It's the first unlisted video i saved in a playlist

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

9:35 that never accured in the TCG tho bc we started that game with the Expert Rules while the OCG had 2 or 3 ruling updates already, so we always had to tribute summon LV5 or higher monster since the very beginning

[@hctaz]

I can’t find anything about the original OCG rules. I know there was an entirely separate Yugioh card game made, but I’m curious what the original rules were for this version.

[@yoman8027]

The OCG had always tribute rules too. You are probably mistaking it with the ill-fated Bandai YuGiOh card game.

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

@@yoman8027 it literally started with Bandai YGO card game in 1996 in Asia (OCG)

[@yoman8027]

@@musiyevonchilla6769 But that game is a completely different game. The Konami OCG has always use tribute rules for high level monsters.

[@musiyevonchilla6769]

@@yoman8027 according to my researches Konami adjusted the rulings of the OCG after they took over it, but I'm not sure if Tribute Summon was a part of that adjustment. Sadly the OCG YGO pre expert rules is poorly documented bc it was really a drag to find anything about the very beginning of the YGO trading card game rules

[@RoryMajule]

Maybe I’m misremembering or maybe I just played wrong as a kid, but I recall that flip effects would activate even if your opponent attacked and destroyed your face down flip effect monster, with the idea being that by attacking and revealing the monster, the effect was activated before the card got destroyed. I remember this being the reason why Man Eater Bug was so feared… because if you accidentally attacked into your opponent’s face down monster, there was a chance it would be a Man Eater Bug and you were guaranteed to lose a monster card.

[@SWAATSFan]

That anime version of Dragon Capture Jar would be great nowadays, since you could just treat it as a Monster card with 200 DEF and then equip it with all Dragons on the field and later use Dragon Piper to summon it on your field. Could really be worth to get a retrained version

[@MainManJaggi]

"If I flipped you over, would you die?" "It would be very painful." "You're a Big Eye" "...For you."

[@BDAShadow1]

Castle Of Dark Illusions has always been my favourite card along with Reaper Of The Cards.

[@zombietaco4829]

Top 10 cards that have been on the most DuelLogs top 10 videos

[@Cameytoe]

I remember reading Bite Shoes when I was much younger and read that it could change the attack or defense of a monster, and did not see it said position which led me to believe I found an extremely broken card. Oops

[@_Vengeance_]

Anime and Manga Dragon Piper: very pro-Dragon Capture Jar "Ah yes, let's make it an anti-Dragon Capture Jar, that will surely embody the spirit of the card the people have seen in the anime and manga!"

[@DukeSkylocker]

To be fair, this was the early days of Yugioh, so they probably thought the combo of Dragon Capture Jar and Dragon Piper to steal all your opponents dragons would be way too powerful. And nowadays it's way too late to errata it to match the anime because even then that combo would be seen as too cumbersome to see competitive play. That's how much power creep the game has seen.

[@_Vengeance_]

@@DukeSkylocker Oh, that I do agree with. But they could've done something like destroying all Dragons instead of switching their battle position and giving your opponent more attacks (still the requirement that a Dragon Capture Jar needs to be destroyed for that, of course). Dragon Piper was released after cards like Warrior Elimination (both in the OCG and TCG) so they were clearly fine with effects like that, and this would be much more convoluted anyway.

[@DemonOfShadows66]

Big Eye? That's one of my favorite Flip monsters. It was always so useful to get everything you need in the order you need them.

[@Goomyx1492]

I kinda get it though. The best effects usually involve shuffling the deck, so you'll probably end up undoing the order anyway. Plus you need 5 full turns to get the maximum benefit of putting the 5 cards in order if you manage to not shuffle the deck by then.

[@samsteronic]

"I'm pretty Dragon Piper released afterward" Man redid the video but couldn't do a google search lol

[@bensell982]

Does it really matter? It sucks regardless. He's kinda right though Dragon Capture Jar was released in March of 2002 while Dragon Piper was in June of 2002 in the TCG. Though the gap between releases was bigger in the OCG with Dragon Capture Jar being in March 1999 while Dragon Piper was November of 1999. So they were not in the same set in either version. Fun fact Dark Magician Girl despite Mentioning Magician of Black Chaos in it's card Text was released in the TCG 4 years before Magician of Black Chaos so part of it's effect was useless.

[@thoseguy531]

Sad part is I remember in some of the earlier days of duel links some people played fire sorcerer in metaphys as a way to ideally banish 2 metaphys monsters from hand while inflicting burn that was actually decent being a fifth of the starting life points

[@door-chan]

You should just use Weather Report to rain poison dart frogs, works very well at stopping priests

[@olerisager1976]

Revisiting this for… ‘fun’ and ‘engaging’ purposes in relation to a new tcg exclusive archetype.

[@Mipo_Tony]

fire sorcerer hand loop lesgoooo

[@frostedflinks]

Fun fact ! Fire sorcerer actually saw a decent amount of competitive play in Duel Link when Metaphys came out in the game. Flip monsters where still slow but mostly only destroyed in battle so it was a great catd for the deck in early dl days :)

[@thejamesonthestreet]

800 burn damage is twice of deal than the normal yugioh in DL, since we only have 4000 LP. But of course what we want in Metaphys is the banishing effect, the burn was a nice extra

[@egalomon]

I remember playing almost all of these... Jigen Bakudan especially was the King of break time duels in school when everyone believed everything.

[@Natendowii]

I love how most of these are from the first 5 booster sets of Yu-Gi-Oh.

[@BabadoeTTV]

Love revisiting this video just to meme around with Mimighoul!

[@Fonzzz002]

I actually used 2 Fire Sorcerers in a videogame when I tried to make a Gren Maju deck with whatever cards I had gathered. Did a passable job getting cards banished, though it didn't take long for better banish cards to appear.

[@thestranger9608]

I remember castle of dark illusions from the anime. Mai loss all her star chips

[@rainbowdragon168]

I remember too.

[@thestranger9608]

@@rainbowdragon168 didn't the giant solider of stone take it down? Yugi screwed the rules there

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@thestranger9608 No he used that card to attack the moon card. He used Catapult Turtle to launch Gaia to the castle which collapsed and destroyed all the monsters his opponent had

[@thestranger9608]

@NullLex00 i love the anime but damn. He screwed the rules. Like with Kaibas blue eyes ultimate at dulest kingdom

[@rainbowdragon168]

@@thestranger9608 Yeah but Duelist Kingdom didn’t have proper rules then

[@alexrivers8163]

Growing up I always thought a monster being attacked while face down triggered its flip effect

[@jaspurr2024]

I'm looking it up rn because I still thought this, and I swear it does work like that tho

[@Aikisbest]

I love it when you actually give examples of how a card can be used regardless of how bad that would be, a la "If you just really want to use it"

[@Venator94]

Top 10 Tuner Monsters (that aren't mainly used as hand traps); Top 10 Synchro Tuner Monsters; Top 10 Ritual Monsters; Top 10 Union Monsters; Top 10 Gemini Monsters; Top 10 Link 4 Monsters; Top 10 "Number" Xyz Monsters; Top 10 Monsters whose ATK/DEF depend on their effects; Top 10 (Worst) Level 4 Monsters with 2000 ATK or more; Top 10 Rock/Reptile/Fish/Sea Serpent (you name it) Type Monsters; Top 10 Cards that have a better version of themselves (BLS>Chaos Sorcerer, Magical Stone Excavation>Spell Reproduction, Gold Sarcophagus>Different Dimension Capsule...) Top 10 Spell/Trap Cards that activate from the GY; Top 10 Best Equip Cards.

[@millainaire3815]

You should do a top 10 of the most powerfull archetypes in the entire Yu-Gi-Oh's competitive story !

[@DarkSymphony777]

It would be burning abyss and friends. But I would like to see it as well

[@angelaziegler6713]

Anyone remember when zodiacs made the meta cry uncle?

[@burnum]

Unless the opponent's monsters have the effect of destroying without flipping the monster, or board wiping cards, then flip monsters do have use still. Apart from maybe Weather Report and Dragon Piper.

[@marsella527]

I'm noticing a theme: flip effect monsters from Metal Raiders suck (with some exceptions)

[@hiimemily]

Big Eye's effect: Look at the top 5 cards of your deck, then surrender.

[@AwesumVloggin]

Yeah we should always respect Big Eye's ability to make sure you know you will lose

[@leonardolim8976]

Top ten worst monsters with 2000 ATK or more 1. Nuvia the wicked 2. Flash assailants 3. Rare metal dragon 4. Insect queen 5. Great moth 6. Infernal incinerator 7. Theinen the great Sphinx, Sphinx teleia, and andros Sphinx 8. Blue eyes shining dragon 9. Blue eyes chaos dragon 10. Red eyes darkness dragon

[@ikyiAlter]

I love Fire Sorcerer. I actually used it when I tried to make a fire burn deck. :D Back when the ban list just started and we didn't play by the ban list and had many Pot of Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeds. :D

[@feedjake9995]

I don’t know how feasible it is; but I for one would listen to this on a podcast feed audio only. I and im sure many others would love that!

[@alphabrother6823]

Top 10 Best Flip Monsters next? I’d love to see all the Jar cards against the Shaddolls or something

[@leojun2]

You always explain the cards in a detailed and understandable way, so great video, I like it! But I feel like it would be more interesting (and more difficult, lol) to do something like "Top 10 worst most recent flip effect monsters", or "Top 10 worst flip effect monsters from playable archetypes", or anything like that. These cards you listed are really old with a really bad activating condition (flip) considering today's fast paced standards, so those were kinda obvious choices.

[@MFMegaZeroX7]

Yeah Dragon Piper wasn't out in the early OCG. The classic no tribute rule really only lasted a few months until early May. Even though "classic" was technically supported throughout series 1, AFAIK people didn't really play it in the card shops in Japan after the Expert Rules came out.

[@varkolak7779]

Some of these cards appeared on Yu-Gi-Oh! Duelist Kingdom season.

[@MomoKunDaYo]

Alot of these cards are from the begining of the game, when yugioh strategy wasnt exactly figured out yet.

[@soukenmarufwt5224]

Caveman Yugioh Where consistent deck building wasnt a marketing concern amd relyed on the amime

[@thevintagevaluesexperience4302]

The Stern Mystic is awesome because he looks like Dumbledore

[@duskdragmatic8198]

well, if we go by that logic, Fire Sorcerer looks like Marisa Kisame

[@RawwkinGrimmie64]

Absolutely heart breaking to see some of my favorite flip monsters on this list. Big Eye, Dragon Piper, Weather Report, Jigen Bakudan, The Stern Mystic...Thank God that Man-Eater Bug and Princess of Tsurugi couldn't have possibly made this list. I've suffered enough.

[@thejamesonthestreet]

MEB was broken in the early Yugioh, and even now the effect was still good.

[@ytmndman]

I I experimented with Weather Report in the old Eternal Duelist Soul game, as pretty much every opponent used at least one copy of Swords of Revealing Light. When it worked, it would often let me OTK, but even in that format it was too inconsistent. Big Eye was also used by the Rare Hunter in that game, and it was kind of nerve-wracking to attack into it and see him rearrange his cards, as you would always worry that he would draw the last piece of Exodia on the next turn, but he rarely did.

[@drakemcdermott5425]

I ran a burn deck that had two fire sorcerer in it, with 3 backfire, 3 solar flare dragon, a ring of destruction, it was brutal. No more than 5 turns before victory

[@HoveringAboveMyself]

Dragon Piper isn't bad because of anime lore reasons, in the manga/anime it wasn't a flip monster and its effect is that it allowed you to take control of dragons sealed inside Dragon Capture Jar. A more faithful translation of its anime effect would be a trigger effect to let you special summon an opponent's banished Dragon if you have Dragon Capture Jar face up in the field (which would be a trap monster that banishes Dragons).

[@_Vengeance_]

Fun thing I've recently discovered: there's actually a format where Castle of Dark Illusions is a really good card. It's a very niche format though, the format being the PC game Kaiba the Revenge without Yugi the Destiny cards. It's a very heavy Crush Card format where 1900+ DEF is actually incredibly sturdy (no Man-Eater Bugs, Fissures, Summoned Skulls, Raigeki, and Dark Hole, and also no Pot of Greed and Graceful Charity to get faster to answers), so having a Crush Card target with that amount of DEF makes for a really flexible card (still though, I would just tech 1 in, no more than that).

[@SuperVoodude]

My bro is gonna be so sad seeing Big Eye on the list. It used to psych me out that he could plan five moves ahead of me (as I would say lol). How about top 10 generic counters cards (cards that don't use named counters like Spell Counters)?

[@snailracer4082]

"Top 10 Worst Cards that Paved the Way for Strong Ones in YuGiOh." Example: The Inexperienced Spy being a precursor to cards like The Forceful Sentry.

[@lisaruhm6681]

Stardust Dragon could be in there too, although is was a good card, it seems like the baseline for a modern bossmonster.

[@isaiasjunior3535]

"There are technically ways to make use of Weather Report" Yes, it's a Great way to stop the World Reseting

[@TheGuyWhoMakesRandomTierLists]

Fire Sorceror was actually really useful to me when I first started to play Duel Links as it was one of the easiest ways to inflict passive burn damage against Level 10 opponents. I stress early on lol

[@ploppman7524]

Weather Report is like those old terrible trap cards that have an effect to answer one specific card. Gryphon Wing is an example of these. Except Weather Report is a monster for some reason.

[@Brawler_1337]

“At number 5, we have Weather Report.” Yugioh4RealMen: YOU DARE QUESTION MY POWER?!

[@VikTimmy]

it was my understanding, that unless otherwise stated (i.e. Jigen) the flip effect happens as soon as it's flipped. so with dark eyes, if for some reason your oppoent only had a single monster on the field and was conducting their battle phase, attacking your face down dark eyes then you could activate dark eyes effect on the attacking monster to stop dark eyes from being destroyed. I'm in no way saying thats a good use for it, just that it was my understanding of the timing of when flip effects activate. to be fair though, my only experience with Yugi-oh anymore is with LotD:LE and it's entirely possible it's not the best source for these things, and I could be wrong and just misremembering, I seem to recall man eater bug still gets destroyed if its effect is used to destroy the monster attacking it after all, but then, it doesn't say anything about stopping attacks. it just straight up destroys its target.

[@0047David]

I feel like this list is just cards I've seen people doing progression style series consider in early episodes of those series versus the higher attack normal monsters they end up playing instead of these 10.

[@sirswagabadha4896]

The last few cards made me think about what a top 5/10 list of the best cards to give your opponent would look like

[@thaddeusgenhelm8979]

Fire Sorcerer's best friend with Reverse Reuse is probably Hiro's Shadow Scout =P

[@ScrambledAndBenedict]

True story, when we played this game at school when I was a lad, we had a house rule where we considered Castle Of Dark Illusions to be 950/1950 instead, just to make the math easier lmao

[@TheRetroReplay]

A lot of these "worst" cards aren't really the worst, but have been power crept by better cards over the years, you're comparing them to the current and rapid competitive meta of the game today, rather than the very slow, war of attrition the game was back then. When the game came out it very much consisted of setting up a line of defense bigger that would allow you to tribute summon bigger monsters. Granted cards like Jigen Bakudan were bad even back then and no one played Dragon Capture Jar so Dragon Piper was useless. Castle of Dark Illusions was used more for it's high defense rather than it's effect as there were no good Zombie monsters back then, because the highest attacking level 4 monster at time of it's release was La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp and even Gemini Elf, Vorse Raider and Spear Dragon couldn't get over it, it was an alternative to Mystical Elf and Aqua Madoor Big Eye is kind of getting an unfair comparison to newer cards, that card came out back in Metal Raiders when the game was still much slower, back then it was a boon to see the top five cards and arrange them in any order as there were only 2 searchers at the time Witch of the Black Forrest and Sangan. Same with Weather Report as back then, Swords of Revealing Light was a really powerful card at the time as back row removal was practically non existent as at the time the only card that could remove Swords was De-Spell and MST would get limited to 1 for a very long time. Bite Shoes was also way before Enemy Controller as well.

[@RinaShinomiyaVal]

These cards sucked even back then.

[@noukan42]

@@RinaShinomiyaVal define sucked. If you mean "anything that was not played in Chaos decks" then it is like saying that anything that is not Tier 1 or 2 currently suck, wich is just untrue. In the age where most monsters where vanilla whit terrible stats or monsters whit incredibly convoluted effects whose utility was questionable even after pulling them of, anything whit a remotely useful effect did not suck. I played back then, i know how the cards of the era that actually suck looks like.

[@ehfoxvocs5840]

Castle of Dark Illusions in the old Duel Monsters games, like Dark Duel Stories, has 2500 Defense and boosted your Shadow Attribute monsters every turn, plus your opponent couldn't see your field. It was a baller card back then.

[@MasterArchfiend]

I used to run Big Eye as a kid. I would normally use it plan my turns in advance. Knowing what I was going to draw made it easier to make decisions during my turn. I also used it and Convulsion of Nature to make sure Archfiend's Oath never failed me so I could get to key cards just a little bit faster. My friend back in grade school used Dragon Piper as he ran a dragon deck so we all included Dragon Capture Jar as a counter to him. Didn't matter as he always won.

[@TheJazzMan333]

*Me who hasn't played since 2011:* omg I know all of these

[@sugondiesthephilosopher]

A video on tech cards would be excellent. I wasn't aware of reverse reuse. Janky combos like barrel behind the door and pre-erata ring of destruction won me a tournament

[@NapoleonBonaparteIV]

Pegasus really likes bad flip monsters.

[@goodguycwyzz4768]

I loved playing castle back in the day because it made it harder to track life points for my opponent

[@d-_-b8558]

Dragon Piper was released in Metal Raiders in 2002, one of the earliest sets in the game.

[@jackjohnson6044]

6:20 The wording of "weather report" does not say that swords of revealing lights need to be destroyed by its effect, for the double battlephase. So couldn't you get weather report on the field, activate swords of revealing light, destroy the swords by yourself and have a double battlephase?

[@SinNombre-_-]

So you are saying it's like a 2nd effect unrelated to the flip effect?

[@blizzard2508-k7n]

@@SinNombre-_- yeah. The condition on the battle phase effect is not related to the flip effect.

[@Kawaiisikkusu]

Huh that's so interesting. Has anyone ever try that card on some simulators/games to prove it?

[@triggerken1793]

I done a little research and the latest print of Weather Report was in 2009, Problem Solving card text only came into the TCG in 2011, so to avoid having to re-print cards no one actually uses, Konami just decided that a bunch of older cards with nonspecific costs and effects like WR here need to have their first effects or the conditions met before they can activate the actual helpful effect,

[@Cruzin249]

It actually doesnt destroy SORL if its on your side. A video from Yugioh4realmen made an otk with weather report and at one point of the video, he too had swords on his side after forcing his opponent to use swords and activate weather report. It only destroyed the opponent's swords and not his own.

[@timmyreobed5043]

This is the first time I've seen the non-yugipoop version of Big Eye.

[@alisonarizapa343]

Thanks I was wishing for a Flip monster worst or best ones.

[@Darkkefka]

Here’s a fun fact about fire sorcerers. Tea used one in the anime. One of the cards she banished was pot of greed. LOL

[@glacierwolf2155]

That's definitely not what Pot of Greed does.

[@BmanTheChamp]

@@glacierwolf2155 That's probably why she banished it, because she didn't know what it does.

[@KurtHoorah]

A new Worst of Duel Logs on my Birthday. It doesn’t get any better than that

[@kitsunekaze7831]

Top 10 cards that give you an advantage by giving them to your opponent.

[@Nx57ytre]

In fact, I was thinking of an evolution for Fire Sorcerer. I called her Specialized Fire Sorcerer. This is how its effect would be: Each turn, you can send the 3 cards on top of your deck to the Graveyard and activate one of the following effects: -Burn 400 points of damage to your opponent for each monster card sent to the graveyard. Specialized Fire Sorcerer cannot declare an attack the turn it activates that effect. -If one of the cards sent to the Graveyard has an effect that is activated if it is destroyed on the field in battle or by the effect of an opponent's card, you can activate its effect ignoring that requirement.

[@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire]

I just thought of a cool flip monster support card: A spell that not only allows a player to normal set an extra flip monster face done per turn, but it also reduces the amount to tribute needed to set higher level flip monsters face down. BUT ONLY _TRUE_ FLIP EFFECT MONSTERS, not the pseudo ones and the like. So like if you had a two tribute flip monster, you only need one, while one tributes can be set at no cost… And just to make sure level 4 and lower ones stay advantageous, their own flip effects cannot be negated.

[@AECX99]

I think fire sorcerer's intention was (or ended up being) more of a support for some of the D.D. monsters that Special summon when banished (or similar effects) but not purely burn damage

[@shadoweddragonfilms4424]

Had a friend in high school that infuriated people with a Gravity Bind deck. He ran four monsters in it that all had effects that bumped their attack up every turn they were on the field. His big coup de gra was actually Jigen Bakudan. By the time he got it most of the time, he'd locked the field entirely, had his backrow full, and the few monsters easily breaking a few thousand ATK each. Used Jigen, wiped his own field, the burn effect had done enough damage that it was impossible that to survive. Proud to say I was the only one that beat him through trap hole'ing/Fissure'ing all of his monsters until all he had was Jigen and one other, he couldn't quite kill me, and I managed to get a Decoy Dragon out to whittle his LP away until I won.

[@siddhartashakara5240]

This should sprout in a list of Best cards to give to your opponent.

[@k-bobkid6866]

Castle of Dark Illusions was incredibly fun in Metal Raiders. From my experiences: 1. The only Normal Summons that could beat over it facedown were Dark Elf and Jirai Gumo, costing 1000LP and a coin flip of half your LP respectively. 7-Colored Fish, Ryu-Kishin Powered, Bistro Butcher, etc, they weren't destroying CoDI on summon. Combine with Robbin' Goblin and your opponent lost a card for failing to destroy it. 2. It sucked to trade a destruction effect to remove. Unless you pulled full playsets of every staple card, you were definitely counting how many Dark Hole, Raigeki, Fissure and Man Eater Bugs you had left in your deck to deal with your opponent's eventual Summon Skull or BEWD. Trading any of those for a Normal Set monster felt like a horrible opportunity cost. It even sucked up a Fissure to protect high ATK monsters! Although, using Soul Exchange and CoH to tribute your opponent's CoDI was a great trade. 3. CoDI was great Cannon Soldier and Catapult Turtle fodder. Once it was flipped off a failed attack, you just popped it for an easy 500 extra burn. 4. Bringing out Pumpking and CoDI was the hypest shit. The combo would get Dark Hole'd next turn, but it was still hype. Then Mystic Plasma Zone and Malevolent Nuzzler came out in Spell Ruler. Pumpking was still a fairly decent Summon Skull alternative, but the Castle had crumbled. The card text may say "FLIP", but CoDI's real effect is that 1930 DEF actually mattering

[@Sokaras3]

Top 10 cards that can perform a ritual summon This would include traps and monster effects (like the megalith archetype)

[@RurouniHiro]

Heart of clear water I used this card a lot in the old days and as I played. Not really competitive use but does make for a good means of stalling. With the raise of (comparatively to when it came out) nuking options. It won’t see if any use. (Any card would be seen as slow if takes a turn to use, when you can sort and play half your deck in an absurd chain of effects in a single turn)