Top 20 Best WW2 Tank War Strategy Board Games | Best World War 2 Tabletop Games

[@calessel3139]

Some interesting choices, but I'm rather shocked at the lack of many classic tank games such as Squad Leader, Advanced Squad Leader, Panzer Blitz/Panzer Leader, Panzer'44, Arab-Israeli Wars, Tobruk and Patton's Best.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Oh yes, absolutely agree. That's why I plan to make an update about tank board games - where to include those that you mentioned and more. Reason for choice to exclude many was simple - to cut it down to top 20. But as I said update is planned in future videos. And who knows may be - some of those games must be unpacked and reviewed. But that as well - looking bit in future. Thank you for comment - appreciate your opinion!

[@calessel3139]

@@TheDiceTreasures Sounds Good!

[@dphalanx7465]

I would include GMT's recent remake of _Panzer,_ and the revision/rerelease of _Tank Leader_ that happened within this last year. Also, for _Tobruk_ there's the classic by AH (1975ish) and a recent remake by Critical Hit (that incorporated a lot of ideas from ASL, but was endorsed by _Tobruk's_ original creator, Hal Hock).

[@calessel3139]

@@dphalanx7465 Those sound like great games I'll have to look into them. BTW less known is an AH General magazine update for Tobruk, I think in 1976 or 77, that includes new rules and a numer of tanks such as Pz-IV "specials" (Pz4 F2), and updated armor penetration/effects charts. Unfortunately, unless you can get an old copy with the counters still in it, you'll have to print them out yourself. On the plus side, the on-line media archive, Archive-org has all the issues of the General in PDF format for free (I'd put the link in here but KZbin won't allow me to post this comment then).

[@dphalanx7465]

@@calessel3139 I've got that Issue! Vol.13#4. It's a must-have for people who like Classic _Tobruk._ Hal Hock answered a bunch of questions/errata, and dropped some more Designer's Notes. They introduced Armored Cars, armed Halftracks, and a couple of the rarer Tanks/TDs. 👍

[@farpointgamingdirect]

Tank on Tank us easily the best game on this list; I can't believe that Sherman Leader, Tiger Leader, and Patton's Best aren't on this list...

[@wxman5401]

I got the Tank Command game at age 9 back in the 70s for Christmas

[@TheDiceTreasures]

It is the great game. Never had this one myself, but in childhood I had different game made in USSR game similar to Tank Battle... unfortunately I do not remember the title. But... but, during childhood in 1980s we played something resembling Tank Command in sand boxes....We had no Tank Command - so we created our own games. We had metal tank miniature models... as well USSR made, so we created a trail / roads in sand boxes, opponent hide old magnets under the sand, another opponent attached thread to his metal tanks and drag through the route and tried to avoid "magnetic mines" and get to as many tanks as possible to the finish line. Basically you always must chose one of 2 or 3 road forks. Oh my.... that was great time.

[@SuperMaxdragon]

I remember Tank Battle well. Played it for years in Junior/Senior high school.

[@codebasher1]

I cant believe panzerblitz, Panzer Leader and Arab Israeli Wars didn't get a mention.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

😞 I know, sorry, there are so many of them that I must drop many of them. Great comment! 👍 You doing right to announcing missing ones! Thank you! 🙏 Episode is calling for part 2 TANK BOARD GAMES this is already scheduled for future episodes.

[@cwcsquared]

The posting guy is a bozo?

[@QuizmasterLaw]

A&A isn't a tank game. Panzerblitz, Panzerleader, and Arab Israeli wars are. Surprise none of them were in here. AIW is legit playable and fairly realistic.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

:D Yes, its not, but I could not not to include that. However it has mechanized and tank units as well. Sorry if disappointing you with that one (A&A) - probably it was may personal subjective taste. I love that game and its PC cousin Hearts of Iron as well... not the same, but huge similarities. Thank you for comment - actually there are much more tank board games out there and judging by ratings they are quite good... that leaves no choice then make an update in future. 👍

[@gorski1234]

I never got around to playing A&A Pacific. Bucket list.

[@bunnyniyori5209]

Considering how I consider myself a total tread head, I'm shocked by how many of these games were utterly unknown to me.

[@borisguy1986]

Company of heroes board game is a super great tank game

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Yes and not only boar game - it is available as PC game as well.

[@neild3163]

Great video for a newcomer to the genre. Which would you recommend for solo play?

[@TheDiceTreasures]

:)

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Tiger Leader

[@David-ey9jg]

Advanced Squad Leader is a whole new level. Any modern tank warfare rules have to be totally re written with the evidence coming out of Ukraine.

[@jeremiahclark3084]

It's sad that board and tabletop games are a dying art. Love these.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Are they? Cañnot agry with that... Why do you think so?

[@jeremiahclark3084]

@@TheDiceTreasures just a lot of people doing video games. There are board gamers out there still, but not a lot of tabletop gamers. We have a game shop near by, but everyone is playing card games there.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

@@jeremiahclark3084 well, I guess many of gamers try to get either a new game from Kikstarter campaigns, Amazon, eBay or other platforms or through facebook sell/buy groups. I guess many. I myself, by them online, it is just easier and less time consuming then go to shop and search for the game. Have you tried go online... I mean, maybe if you make online store or start to sell through eBay or Amazon, Etsy etc. or similar way you may find more customers.

[@jeremiahclark3084]

@@TheDiceTreasures Well, I buy items and such. I make games as a hobby. But was just saying. The feel of dice, the suspense of rolling to-hit. Penciling in damage. Not a lot of people do it. But yeah, you're right, there are still many out there. Loved your video, classic games you found are really cool.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

@@jeremiahclark3084 Thank you! Actually I considering to make a couple of videos about classic vintage board games, but there is always some other topics that push them aside... always some new games, and stuff like that, for instance I decided to give priority to video games for this summer period and switch back on more videos about board games during autumn and winter period, so yes, maybe during that time it would be great finally make some videos about vintage board games, cause they are cool as well and many of them are pioneers in some way.

[@CDP1861]

Battletech - it features a lot of absolutely new ways to kill a tank. On top of the old ones.

[@chameleonchameleon538]

You forgot about the best tank game and ww2 board game of them all ( conflict of heroes storms of steel 3rd edition)

[@TheDiceTreasures]

oh... yes, indeed. My bad :) Right it from Conflict of Heroes series, its about battle of the Kursk. Right? In 2023 I will make a new revised episode about tanks board games and so help me God no to forget this one then :D Thank you for your suggestion! Really appreciate that!

[@chameleonchameleon538]

@@TheDiceTreasures Yes, I was just very confused and surprised that you didn't include the conflict of heroes series ( but only the 3rd editions) of games on the list. More specifically awakening the bear 3rd edition and storms of steel 3rd edition. Glad to read that you are intending to do so in the future !!!

[@TheDiceTreasures]

@@chameleonchameleon538 Glad for understanding. Thank you!

[@vicprovost2561]

For me, that is ASL by far. Why no ASL, too complex and all encompassing?

[@mikedearing6352]

I was surprised to see Axis and Allies as a tank game, of course it has tanks but.. not anything complex about how they are used, I'm a Third Reich fan (Avalon hill), they use tanks and the tanks have special tank stuff, zones of control, exploitation attacks, various range and combat strengths, probably still not a great tank game but it's pretty much a classic game anyways and has several other very cool aspects like the air power rules, strategic warfare, interesting naval interception

[@canadianturfsandwich1258]

Should add Company of Heroes to your list. It is going to do another kickstarter this year for the 2.0 edition.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Definitely! Thank you!

[@mikearmstrong8483]

Panzer General I have both Allied Assault and Russian Assault. The rules and unit card differences are very minor and it is not difficult to integrate them, providing wondrous variety of German units for a scenario. Axis & Allies I have 1942 (2nd ed), Anniversary (2nd ed), and A&A Europe and A&A Pacific together forming the global game which is GODAWESOME when laid out, but you need a very big table. I play the global game, but also use the convenient paper money provided by the anniversary game. MBT Not mentioned was its companion game IDF. MBT stands for Main Battle Tank and is a US/FRG vs USSR conflict with appropriate terrain boards for central Europe. IDF stands for Israeli Defense Force and is an Arab vs Israeli conflict in 1967 or 1973, with terrain boards for desert combat. The rules and unit data cards are almost identical and intentionally compatible, so you can actually recreate almost any battle from the Korean War to Iraqi Freedom, though the scenarios provided are for the two conflicts that form the basis of the games. As a side note, I had MBT & IDF but they were misplaced during my divorce. I went online and bought MBT from a private seller. Then I bought IDF from a different private seller, but he had both and his wife packed the wrong one, so now I had 2 copies of MBT, so I contacted him again and bought the IDF. Then my ex wife found my original 2 games and gave them to me, so I now have 3 MBT and 2 IDF. It's a company and battalion level game but with all those unit counters I can field entire regiments, though it does make for long play.

[@QuizmasterLaw]

Tank Battle (1975) is a good game, and unlike many table top games includes aspects of supply and hidden information. It's more playable than realistic but with house rules could be expanded... also it uses Panther and Sherman Firefly or are they M4A3E8? Anyway legit tanks. the 2003 game looks a lot like it, is it a remake somehow? Similar rules?

[@bernardtuinenburg8746]

I think you missed Operation Barbarossa by Svezda

[@christophernix8003]

Red Storm Rising

[@johnsorge3034]

Technically flames of war is a miniatures game. You need a 4 x 8 table and a lot more than comes in the starter boxes. Also its a lot like 40k, where battlefront updates/changes the rules every few years meaning you have to buy all new books. Have played it for years, but you need to invest a lot of money.

[@WarlordOfIowa66]

There are far better games out there then FOW. The only thing FOW has going for it is marketing and good miniatures. The rules, themselves, are really bad.

[@johnsorge3034]

@@WarlordOfIowa66 I agree, there are a lot better WW2 games than FoW. However, the best is not always popular. What you forget is in the beginning (90's) FoW spent a huge amount of $$$ on getting their game out at the cons. Once they got that foothold everything else was a 2nd place choice. Sort of how GW took hold with 40k.

[@WarlordOfIowa66]

@@johnsorge3034 - I understand your point. I have come to believe that marketing makes a bigger difference than actually good rules out there. Battleground WWII and Jagdpanzer are far better rules than Bolt Action or FOW/TY and yet here we are.

[@JERRYR708]

Battletech tank battles are good.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

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[@warrenokuma7264]

A good video. But where is the science fiction tank games? Might I suggest Ogre?

[@TheDiceTreasures]

@@warrenokuma7264 Thank you for suggestion 👍

[@OverlordZephyros]

is there a miniature version of mbt?

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Have not found jet.

[@OverlordZephyros]

@@TheDiceTreasures I actually found one a few days ago lol . its called Team yankee world war 3 , you will like it 😃

[@darrenrees3284]

I had the first one.

[@pm71241]

MBT ...or it's WW2 sister "Panzer"

[@TheDiceTreasures]

MBT

[@TheDiceTreasures]

MBT is massive game

[@pm71241]

@@TheDiceTreasures nah... there are bigger games.

[@tonyennis1787]

What? No Panzer Leader??

[@TheDiceTreasures]

And not only - obviously there are more then 20 board games involving tanks. Thank you for comment. Probably there should be an update on this video. Thank you for suggestion!

[@Snippersly]

So many pics of Axis and Allies Minis but you don't even acknowledge the game... despite the success you gloss over it but still mention Tanks and FoW>

[@TheDiceTreasures]

True - A&A has not only armored units - but its immense scale and popularity cannot be overlooked. Its great game. Tank units are present in the game - so I think it qualifies. Besides it strongly reminds me Hearts of Iron - that is absolutely sweet PC strategy game.

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Thank you for comment!

[@desktopgrenadiers4321]

Kind of a bizarre list

[@TheDiceTreasures]

Thanks for a feedback! Why you found it bizarre? :)

[@brucebakken5687]

What an odd list. The presentation makes me think that most of these games were never played by the narrator. I own all of these, by the way, and many are horrible, definitely not tactical and barely even strategic. Mere toys. Others are miniatures games. Not really helpful for someone truly interested in tank combat board games. (The gross omissions have already been mentioned.)

[@vicprovost2561]

No ASL, not a valid list.