Top 25 Best-Selling PS2 JRPGS (NO Final Fantasy)

Here's a list of the 25 JRPGs that sold the most copies on the PS2 all around the world. NO Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest or Kingdom Hearts.
Support the channel HERE: / ericklandon
Link to my books HERE: www.amazon.com.mx/s?i=stripbo...
Buy my latest book HERE: www.amazon.com/dp/B0951GDWYT
Subscribe to my second channel HERE:
/ @ericklandonsecondchannel

[@jesuslbl]

Lot of nostalgia from this video, Dark Cloud 2 has to be one of my most enjoyed videogames ever!

[@ThePhoenixReviews]

can I just say, Erick Landon has been a go to youtuber for ages now and I love watching his videos on role playing games, as a fan of rpgs myself I have had to go and buy some of the ones he has reviewed. keep up the great work my friend!

[@royalsfan4784]

Same here!

[@sdlock83]

His accent!

[@fuuma1596]

Same!

[@kristijan738]

Persona 4 was released very late into the ps2 lifespan. sales numbers would be much higher otherwise, for sure.

[@joshualangworthy4794]

So was ff12 and yet it sold 6.4 million

[@yuri_cobaia]

@@joshualangworthy4794 the irony of comparing a game that was on his TWELVE edition, coming from a top scorer franchise from a top scorer developers, with a franchise that almost never traveled the overseas lol

[@nofaceyawl5368]

Huge fan of the Dark Cloud series, glad this series did so well back in the day.

[@Coreisus]

Still praying for a Dark Cloud 3! Imagine how great this type of game would be if built for modern consoles! Solid action combat! Expansive Georama/city building! And the aesthetic of it all in HD video/audio!

[@robotron2720]

Dark Cloud 2 was better because they fixed alot of things that 1 got wrong, including the weapon system (Screw the weapon breaking system that 1 had) with only a draw back of ABS if they do break rather lose it for good.

[@zennabella1676]

I AM TOO. GREAT GRAPHICS FOR THE PS2 CONSOLE. I WISH THEY USED GRAPHICS LIKE THAT NOW INSTEAD OF THE REAL CARTOONY LOOK. I THINK ITS CALLED ANIME. I LIKE HOW DARK CLOUD LOOKED. I FELT DARK CLOUD WAS BETTER THAN THE 2ND ONE. HERE ITS CALLED DARK CHRONICLE THE 2ND ONE. I WAS TOTALY WRAPPED IN DARK CLOUD THE FIRST TIME I PLAYED IT. I ALSO LIKED DRAGON QUEST 8, ROGUES GALAXY AND SUIKODEN 2. I WAS PLAYING THAT ON MY PS2 CONSOLE.

[@zennabella1676]

@@Coreisus I PROBABLY WONT GET A PS5 BUT IF A DARK CLOUD CAME OUT FOR THE PS4 I THINK I WOULD GET IT AS LONG AS THE PRINT WASNT TOO TINY.

[@KevenLC]

I bought Dark Cloud 1 and 2 on launch back in the day and the reason the first game sold so much is because it was the very first ps2 rpg and it was also sold as 'Zelda for Playstation'

[@mikeg5039]

Same, i traded it in a week later. Absolutely hated that game.

[@shhhvcnear]

I owned Dark Cloud and I honestly don't remember why I bought it. I beat a few areas but I put it down. The combat wasn't worth it and to get the good weapon upgrades it required a guide or a stupidly long time

[@duduoson5278]

I rarely comment on videos in general but I love your stuff. Keep it up.

[@ShamanNoodles]

Surprised there hasnt been a 3rd installment of Dark Cloud. Such an underrated series. Music was top notch, too.

[@zennabella1676]

MY FAVOURITE OUT OF THE 2 WAS THE FIRST DARK CLOUD ON THE PS2. I WAS WRAPPED IN IT. I STILL HAVE IT AND STILL PLAY IT EVERY NOW AND THEN. I AM ELDERLY NOW AND I WILL PROBABLY PLAY RPG GAMES TILL THE END. I ESPECIALLY LIKED THE MUSIC AT QUEENS. I ENJOYED LEVELING UP THE WEAPONS VERY MUCH, I FOUND IT VERY INTERESTING AND FUN. I DID FINISH OFF THE LAST BOSS BUT WHEN I PLAY THE GAME NOW I DONT BOTHER DOING THE VERY LAST PART, I STOP AT THAT. TOO NERVE RACKING TRYING TO KILL THAT LAST BOSS. THERE WAS ALSO A SIDE QUEST IF MY MEMORY IS CORRECT AFTER YOU BEAT THE LAST BOSS. I REMEMBER YOU HAD TO GO TO THE MINE.

[@David_Alvarez77]

Great video! I loved many of these games so much back in the day. I really liked the original dot Hack series despite it being kind of exploitative of the consumer, and Dark Cloud 1 was really fun especially if you enjoyed Soul Blazer. Radiata Stories is one of my favorite PS2 rpgs as such. Star Ocean 3, Suikoden 3 and 4, as well as Persona 3 and 4 were all games that I played and enjoyed quite a bit.

[@plasticdeity5340]

I really like the content on your channel, been awesome watching your channel grow! PS. nice hat!

[@Bajolzas]

rogue galaxy directors cut wasn't only released in japan; it is the version we got; we simply didn't get the original version so there was no point in calling it directors cut over here. (the same goes for star ocean 3 btw)

[@psicambeiro]

thanks for the vídeo! Happy the Suikoden games got a place in the list. And also P3 + FES surprised me ( and also made me happy ). Did you ever play the Suikoden Tierkeis on NDS?

[@mlopezcol]

You're the Capo of JRPGs. Sos el capo de los JRPG!!!

[@christopherrushing8602]

Dot Hack was too far ahead of its time. Great seller for early western anime fans. Amazing story, sequels, lore, gameplay. Like this was the SAO before SAO (sword art online) Games with hours of play time, story depth, traversals, skills, and giant maps weren’t rare back in the day.

[@talonjansen8926]

I am very, very happy to see Dark Clouds here. An incredibly well made couple of games, to be sure! Surprising list!

[@USCsteveO]

Great Big Lebowski reference! Your Americana is strong, amigo!

[@johnofthewired]

great walk through memory lane, awesome video as always man

[@ci7210]

Looking at Square Enix JRPGs. Damn....played all expect Dragon's Quest and feel they deserve those numbers

[@turdfurgeson4943]

Dang! I rented Unlimited Saga when I was a kid but I forgot what it was called over the years. Seeing footage of it just brought back memories of a game I thought was just in my imagination.

[@BattleSKY8]

Needed recommendations and saw this! Thanks!

[@LustVanGoth]

What are the names of games in intro? specially first two?

[@michaelmorgan7754]

Really enjoy your videos. 😯I hope this question doesn’t offend you, if some of these bosses in Switch or Ps2 or PS4 games are so unbalanced why not use cheats? Between work, family and tv/movies I don’t have more 10 to 15 hours a month to play jrpgs games so I use cheats to reduce grinding and just enjoy the story.

[@ivenstorm]

How sad to see no Shadow Hearts. It only selling 110k copies saddens me.

[@javigomez1697]

I got my copy of the three games on release day, my favourite RPG saga on the PS2.

[@sm3ghe4d22]

Can someone help me out trying to remember a certain Jrpg for ps2 that was tactic style and you collected monster with puppets

[@sveknut]

Interesting list, but I question some of these numbers. For example, Suikoden III was said to have sold 200,000 units in Europe. That game was never released in PAL territories, so how is that possible?

[@arturboy777]

I remember Dark Cloud had huge marketing, with big posters on every store, and on top of that the cover gives you Zelda vibes. Hard to believe .hack sold well but copies have always been rare to find.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Good that wild arms 3 and radiata made it. Radiata was a lot of fun. Funny writing without it becoming parody. Sad WA5 didn't make it unless I missed it. It's one of the best in the series and a good game overall.

[@Pocket_Fox]

Star Ocean, Dark Cloud 1 & 2, and Rogue Galaxy are all on PS4. There's a pretty decent list of PS2 games on PS4, but not many RPGs. These are the 4 games that immediately grabbed my attention on that list. I bought all 4 during the big PSN sale in early May. Also, I'm surprised Grandia III didn't sell enough to make the list. That game was a pretty big deal back then.

[@zidaryn]

I like Grandia III to. I love the opening song.

[@zennabella1676]

OH YES STAR OCEAN THE 2ND STORY I THINK IT WAS CALLED, I GOT THAT AS A COPIED GAME. IT WONT WORK NOW. I TRIED TO BUY IT ONLINE BUT SO SO EXPENSIVE AND HARD TO FIND. I DID LIKE STAR OCEAN 2ND STORY BUT I FOUND IT VERY DIFFICULT NEAR THE LATER PART AND HAD TO KEEP GETTING CHEATS TO GET THROUGH SOME OF IT. SUKODEN 2 WAS WORTH BUYING AGAIN, THAT TOO WAS VERY EXPENSIVE.

[@YungYiff]

Anyone got a source to the outro ost

[@crono3339]

Like the Lebowski humor in there haha.

[@Tyrael007]

Suikoden 3 never came to europe sadly, had to import it.

[@MsVinyl666]

Can you do the same list on GBA and SNES?))

[@JetBlack2024]

Yeah everyone who played rpgs I knew in the day had FFX that game was beyond. Surprised ff12 sold so much because I remember people hating that game when it first came out.

[@DSan-kl2yc]

Some people hated it but some people loved the mechanics and it got a lot of praise. A lot of people used a similar map to it afterwards too. I was one of the ones that didn't like the license and a.i system. But I saw discussions and people loved "automating" the tedium that you would do anyway. And I get that. I remember one person describing it as driving a tank, or something like that.

[@zidaryn]

'Fan Squee' Yay!!! Star Ocean: Till The End Of Time is first place!! I love it. It's got a few flaws (crafting system is soooo much RNG) but has good combat, great story and a killer soundtrack. Great to see it here.

[@Mclearmountain]

Dark Cloud for the PlayStation 2 in the number two best-selling spot. My all time favorite. What a joy to see!

[@nancyhoffman4784]

Star ocean is one of my favorite moments thanks for sharing the memories😊

[@nancyhoffman4784]

I still have a blast with the game I think if you wanted to ask around you may still find them again if you're interested🤔🙏

[@ieatcrayons3322]

does around 600,000 copies sold considered big sir?

[@Zakarias89]

I thought it was kinda surprising how low the sales figures for Suikoden V was, but I guess following the reception of Suikoden IV, the series had gotten a worse reputation for a while than it has now.

[@yoshyhimo]

Kind of sad. Suikoden V was a great game and it's surprising to me that have been the only Suikoden not included on the list. That makes sense for the series to die, but it still doesn't fit in my head :'(

[@joset814]

0:15 someone tell me what game is please..

[@maverickhunterzx8582]

Odin sphere being on the list made me happy

[@philwilliamrideout7456]

Thank you so much 🥰

[@KP-hb7yl]

Dot hack, star ocean and Suikoden all the way

[@TheMoviesCult]

Good idea including Japan-only games so that we know what we're missing. May I suggest that you do a Top-25 JRPGs that haven't been translated yet anywhere (officially or unofficially) - "top" in terms of word of mouth or franchise they belong to, as I understand you probably haven't played them either; maybe this way we can push for fan translations!

[@riverswater5688]

Is shadow hearts covenant on here? Because that’s easily my favorite and the most unique RPG on ps2

[@nancyhoffman4784]

Some of these i already have for ps2 but interesting list of ps2 games🤔🙏

[@MattCayen]

Those numbers are insane when you stop to think about it. Its funny as a kid I didnt rly tell people I played RPGs and I should have. I was very surprised when I started mentionning at work that I play RPGs the number of guys I know who plays them.. And we all went to the same schools loll.

[@TrueInvisible]

without megaten persona 3, both persona 4 and persona 5 wouldn't exist. yet megaten persona 3 is always ignored and forgotten while all the love goes strictly to the more recent titles.

[@battlerushiromiya205]

p3 is the best persona imo

[@barongeoffrey75]

i don't know if it's the beat but it's the one through which i started the series. I like 5 as much. 4 less.

[@TrueInvisible]

@@barongeoffrey75 i didn't say anything about it being the "best" i merely stated that gamers are ignoring it, and going right for the newer ones. the first 2 SMT persona games followed the normal style of megaten games, and were much more serious. persona 3 / FEStival version. were the first ever to add the softcore dating sim style thus being more friendly to the teens. even though persona games were never meant for teens they are meant for young adults 17+ just like megaten games are meant only for adults. persona 4 and 5 are fine, i played 4 half way, and then got so badly stuck i ended up dropping it, as for 5, never played it before yet.

[@barongeoffrey75]

@@TrueInvisible i responded the wrong comment. It was meant to answer the one above mine

[@TrueInvisible]

@@barongeoffrey75 learn to use @ and the follow it with the name of the user.

[@emeraldcn]

me: 1 million copies sold, wow! ffx: hold my beer!

[@apollonvidalis6299]

Love dark cloud 2 and suikoden 4 (only one i have played and it was great to be honest) but I am here to say the first hack// are in a league of their own. They had a special level of immersion and story even though their gameplay was a bit clunkly. It was what started me on anime as a teenager. I still remember the games had an credits message to the player where they thank you and use your in game name. I had named kite with my own name so it hit me really special back then. On the other hand gu plays way smoother but is more grindy and haseo is the edgy teen that plays a rogue in dnd. Kite and blackrose were much better characters for me than haseo and 2 beginner helpers. Also star ocean is the game i have quited the most times. The are at least 3 different times i gave up towards the end of disk 1 after the vendini attack and Maria appears

[@LuckyAzazel]

Thanks!

[@Westile]

No one's gonna talk about the fact that he changed the intro after like 10 years? Okay.

[@eileenlucynakurosawa7421]

No Shadow Hearts Covenant and no Stella Deus, I've played a rare game called Magna Carta Tears of Blood, pretty weird but worth.

[@dabianchow6227]

FFX is my first PS2 RPG games

[@bigtareec]

Who knows Legeia2 and Grandia2? God them need a sequel so bad

[@Natzawa]

Legaia 1 was really good too. I liked Legaia 2 as well but it got so much unnecessary hate.

[@aerisgainsborough2141]

grandia 3 was only ever on ps2...

[@kallas9318]

Rogue Galaxy was one of the best ps2 games I ever played. Liked it more then DQ 8 and DC 2 but they are very good games too

[@martinde-serres8724]

Weird feeling, but I think Unlimited SaGa inspired the creation of the gacha systems most developers used in their mobile and console games. Yeah, since the game heavily uses RNG for pretty much everything, pretty sure developers, especially the mobile ones, have played or seen the game in action and said ''ah, what if we take that mechanic, and put a price on it? we can nickel and dime every player into getting anything from something useful to something completely crap''. I'm just spitballing here, don't take this seriously lol.

[@astaynax7531]

Sadly the ps2 days I was in college in a town without a game store so I got my games in other ways....

[@chocobobo19]

No. 1 is one of my favorite games and most selling games? COOL! ^-^

[@hideknaze]

Was Final Fantasy excluded because it has a separate video or you just don't want them on the list

[@David_Alvarez77]

He put them at the end of the list since they so utterly crush the other games he discussed, and everyone knows that they did well.

[@OriginalReVozero]

Suikoden 3 never came out in Europe, interested to hear where that 200K came from, might be PS3 digital sales

[@sveknut]

I thought the same thing, but it was explicitly told that the number included physical sales only. So this is indeed a mystery

[@JN-vn4ng]

Maybe misinformation in Vgchartz that Erick used. No way it sold that well as a digital PS3 game.

[@ithydoodles]

I love Star Ocean 3.

[@barongeoffrey75]

I would like a remake of Tales of rebirth. I'm sad Shadow hearts 1 didn't make to the honorable mention.

[@theipc3383]

I take issue with the comment that sales in Europe wouldn't help that much.... :P

[@aerisgainsborough2141]

no grandia 3???

[@odashimidorida5609]

bro iam not going to buy an old game, we crack it boiiiiiiiiii

[@thelowroad216]

Bruh that hat is so hard

[@tama6422]

PS2 and PSP are probably the golden age for RPGs because there's a ton of them

[@HollowRick]

Don't forget the ps1 as well

[@RubenRyb66]

dark cloud was advertised like crazy in the usa. Star ocean 3 outselling dark cloud is supprising. I couldn't ever get into any star ocean game after second story

[@jamesbrincefield9879]

I was always under the impression that FFXII sold pretty poorly so seeing $7 million sales is crazy to me. Is that including the remaster? It came out in Q1 in Japan so it missed the holiday window and then it came out in the US about a month before the PS3 launched. It was also released after FFXIII/Fabula Nova Crystalis was publicly revealed so it already kinda felt outdated by the time it came out a few months later even though we wouldn’t get XIII for like almost three years. From what I remember it wasn’t very positively received at the time mostly because of Vaan and the combat mechanics. It really wasn’t until fairly recently that a majority of people realized it was a good game. Before the remaster got announced it was only appreciated by the relatively small amount of people who stuck with it past the tedious and boring first couple of hours. Most people I knew who actually played it had written it off as a game that’s probably okay, but just not for them. I kind of felt the same way at first but I’m glad I eventually gave it an honest chance. I always thought Vaan was fine. He wasn’t any worse than Locke or Bartz. The combat mechanics were what really divided people though. They looked extremely alienating to me and the rest of my friend group, and a couple of them never bought it strictly because of that. I don’t know about review outlets, but most message boards I frequented judged it pretty harshly for being different from the rest of the series and I was ready to do the same for the first 10 hours or so. The game in general just didn’t instantly click with me like all the previous games in the series did. I probably spent more time looking at the strategy guide than I did playing the game for the first couple months. I would play in ~30 minute chunks and then quit to play something else. Then spring break came around and something made me give it another chance. That was when it clicked. From then until around my birthday in July I put about 220 hours into it and it became my favorite in the series after IX. I still felt the same way so many years later when I played through the remaster. But back then whenever I would say good things about it I had to call it a “guilty pleasure” or make up some other defense for my enjoyment of it the same way I did X-2 (which was absolutely reviled by 90% of fans at the time) because not many people had played it or didn’t like what they did play. I don’t think it was until FFXIII was released that people finally started to appreciate it.

[@galarxa]

Kinda of sad I didn’t see dragon quest 8 here

[@nancyhoffman4784]

I'm sorry 🙏 to say but dragongaurd #1#2 i think they both run over $100.00 at least they became high priced and rare I myself even couldn't get replacement game,s because of the price of them now😔I also found out to replace my wild arm,s 5 game I would have to pay $150.00 to replace it 😔

[@TrueInvisible]

i request this again: can we have a video titled: Top 25 Best-Selling PS1 JRPGs (NO Final Fantasy games, NO suikoden games, NO wild arms games, NO chrono games, NO tales games, NO mana games, NO square enix games, NO star ocean games, NO xeno games, NO dragon quest games, NO pokemon games, NO digimon games)... a shorter title would be ( NO FF, SU, WA, Ch, T, M, SE, SO, X, DQ, P, D, games) you know, so we can give other titles the chance to rise and shine, instead of repeating and regurgitating the same titles nonstop. i'd like to see some uniqueness, something new

[@stodanko]

Dark Cloud 1/2 should BOTH be 1 and 2 respectively on this list.

[@someoneinthesky9784]

Dem rpg with 1 mil copies then they realize that the last big bosses are way ahead of em, my Gosh

[@wolf4640]

When i see lists without Final Fantasy, Persona, Dragon Quest it's auto like.

[@acidwizard6528]

Persona was included on this list, however the PS2 era was well before it was one of the biggest JRPG franchises around. It's crazy that even a shit game like Final Fantasy X-2 sold several times as many copies as everything else in the video. Just goes to show the recognition the Final Fantasy brand had at the time.

[@TheKessi1000]

Geez, the PS2 RPG lineup wasn't anywhere near the lineup that the PS1 had. Not even close.

[@SILENT_BMS]

Never got my hands on the .hack games. Wish I did

[@Westile]

You missed out on nothing except one of the best OSTs ever, so don't feel too bad about it.

[@QueenViolet8]

Wish they would release them in a collection for modern consoles 😎

[@minatoEd]

.hack//GU is a great game

[@sammythehamster9093]

Back in day I did see dot Hack infection on the shelves. I regret for not getting the game. I'm aware there is dot Hack// Gu last recode on the Switch but digital only in Europe I would prefer physical version.

[@Westile]

@@sammythehamster9093 I don't like the games but you've no idea how much I regret not grabbing Quarantine from my local game store before it was $90 used.

[@1Godslayer1]

I would literally buy a ps5 if there was a dark cloud 3, but soyny only care about the normal market now

[@chinogambino9375]

Number 1 is a big surprise. I own it, beat it but didn't really like it. No Disgaea made it either.

[@ifrit1937]

Let's be honest...SO3 was running off of both SE's name (or Square or Enix whichever owned the SO IP before the merger) and the goodwill of fans of SO1 and 2 (better games imo)...the story of 3 while decent isn't particularly great and almost 2/3rds of the games from the 25th to 2nd slot was better than SO3 when considering almost all aspects of gaming from story to combat to side content. Biggest advantage the game has going for it is SE's name, graphics (for the time (which honestly look kinda bad nowadays tbh)), and most importantly: marketing budget (it's the only game in this list of 25 games that i can remember actually seeing TV commercials for when i was a kid in the early 2000s before the game released...none of the other games had any TV commercials that i can remember outside the FF, DQ, and KH games mentioned after the top 25 list was done...for example if Namco actually tried it with the Tales games I'm pretty sure Abyss would've made over 1 Mil and Destiny DC/Rebirth/Destiny 2 would've definitely made it well over 1 Mil if they released WW and they put money into marketing the games properly...same with almost every other Namco game ever made btw (Namco has always been bad with marketing their own original IPs and spend too much time marketing their Shonen Jump anime collab IPs such as DBZ/Naruto/etc...ya they've done better once the internet became a thing and they started putting more ads on gaming news sites (first Tales ad i can remember seeing is a Vesperia ad on some gaming news sites for example) and using their KZbin channel/social media channel to market their games but even that has limits in attracting attention to anyone outside their usual fan base/the game's genre's fan base. And only in the last few years when they started putting stuff like Scarlet Nexus, Tales of Zestiria/Berseria/Arise, etc into events like E3 was there an obvious uptick in western sales in franchises like this and as far as successful marketing goes their best would obviously be Elden Ring (granted not Namco developed as it's a Fromsoftware developed game, Namco published game so i don't really count it as a Namco game tbh)...if they gave stuff like Tales, Scarlet Nexus, etc that much marketing support and more frequent updates and not spend a year or two silent (or only announce the game 6 months or so before release to reduce long term marketing budget as much as possible) their games likely would sell far better as games like Tales easily have some, if not the best feeling fast action/combo centric combat systems in jrpg history (Abyss's combat for example, hell all Tales combat systems tbh, are far better than SE's Star Ocean combat systems imo in terms of how much you can do with the system and how many special attacks Tales allow you to slot in for a single character (usually around 8 or more while SO was 2 for the first few games until reaching about 6 with an artes tree like feature in 4 if I'm right...maybe 3?(can't remember, granted will find out soon as I'm playing all SO games again in preparation of SO6))). The series defining twist in SO3 in particular though is something i really disliked tbh as it makes the past games/series as a whole feel a bit hollow when you learn the nature of the game's world.

[@chinogambino9375]

@@ifrit1937 Definitely, I think the twist robbed me of most of my investment in the game. Its the same deal as employing the multiverse to justify narrative choices, if its just one reality out of an infinite set where are the stakes? Most of the time writers are just too careless to pull it off. SO3 had great graphics for the time, gameplay was ok to me but none of the characters are memorable. Maybe its surprising to me because our region definitely didn't get any ads, it was very niche as far as I knew at the time. Abyss was great, even the 3ds port holds up well. I'm surprised they didn't push Tales hard after Symphonia did well.

[@ifrit1937]

@@chinogambino9375 Ya only Bersy and Arise has gotten even a remotely decent marketing push mainly with the choice to announce both at E3 in their respective announcement years (granted Arise was either announced too early or Covid pushed development back too much)...granted Arise also got more modern levels of graphics likely due to using Unreal 4 rather than an in house engine likely also affected the great sales for the game (reaching 2 Million sales as of the end of April which means it's on track to selling the most copies of any Tales game in a few years...definitely the best 1st year sales no matter how you look at it)...hopefully for the extra million or so new players the combat, skits, story quality (which while not as good as Symphonia, Bersy, Abyss, Xillia is still up there for the series imo with the first half and the overall setting being among the series strongest...second half declined a bit but wasn't the worse in the series either...more mid level imo) encourage them to try older games and stick with the series, spread the series reputation by word of mouth more. I'll also give some credit to it's sales going to the fact it won RPG of 2021 as well as that likely made a few people that never heard of the game/series at least try it out that would've missed the game completely. What the series really needs though is another Symphonia where pretty much every aspect of the game was solid with no aspect actually dragging it down and the story stays strong from start to finish (most games after it have dropped the story a bit...especially from Vesperia onwards with only really Berseria and maybe even Graces F having a strong story/climax to finish the game with...Arise could've done it if they didn't do the whole villain switch thing and kept the main villain group as the main villains even if the story would feel more generic/straightforward as the swapped in main villain was far weaker imo (and I'm not talking about the final fight of the game that's more or less scripted but the enemy before that fight...final fight was also weak/kinda random to introduce there as well though). Best thing about Arise though was the combat system (granted still prefer the side view combat systems a bit more but this is the best the behind the back view/full 3D game in the series (others being Graces, Zesty, and Bersy) as it doesn't use arte trees which limit flexibility in combat too much imo) though (granted the ally AI sucks as they're braindead/suicidal most of the time and the AI customization is the worse in the series for being party based rather than individual character based) and easily has the best boss/large enemy fights in the series to date imo (ya juggling bosses was fun for a time but it made the series too easy imo to the point the series was starting to get boring, not being able to juggle them and them actually hitting hard enough to be an actual threat (maybe not to the point of one shoting you like Monster Hunter or Souls) finally made the combat exciting again imo). I will say that video game ads have always been rare for all but the largest games and in more recent years i don't think i've really seen ads for even the largest games on TV anymore and most of them seem to be put online via KZbin/side bar ads for websites nowadays...which going back to Arise I remember seeing Arise video ads a lot in video game videos I watched in comparison to past Tales games (of course could be Google data mining at work pushing ads I'd pay attention to...same happened with Elden Ring and Scarlet Nexus for videos I watched with barely anything being stuff like EA's dogshit).

[@Sonicisbadazz]

Those numbers at the end...man does that feel just a tad disheartening. Every one of those games destroyed the competition in sales numbers. Lol

[@mikeg5039]

Couldnt get into radiata stories or dark cloud. Just did not dig them at all. Ah well

[@Manic_Panic]

Shadow Hearts deserved better :(

[@ohbegitu5045]

wait what, mana khemia alchemist of al-revis didnt show up ;_; thats the best jrpg i've ever had in ps2

[@joshbessey9647]

OOOOOOOOOOH

[@dahjord]

dip it

[@lullylew9083]

Dark Cloud sucked!! How the hell did it do so well!? EDIT: So did Star Ocean. God dam.

[@pakkyukka6185]

Seriously?? I thought Suikoden V was the best Suikoden game next to Suikoden 2?

[@carlosfer3533]

well, to me xenosaga 1 was the best of the trilogy

[@ffxiikd1426]

:)

[@hepwo91222]

would have preferred Best 25 PS2 RPG's or Best PS2 Sleeper hit RPG's. Who cares about games sales from two decades ago?

[@romeolajh1602]

So how is possible that ff x is not on this list when was sold more then 8.5 mill copies for ps2...better to trust to myself :)

[@breathofthewild1749]

It literally says "No Final Fantasy" in the title you dummy

[@minatoEd]

Didnt it say, not ff games?

[@Natzawa]

He didn’t include it because everyone knows about those games lol