Top 30 Movie Villains With Justifiable Motives

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Well... they have a point. Welcome to WatchMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for the bad guys with the best reasons for doing what they do. We’re not saying we condone their actions - just that we understand their motivations. Our countdown includes villains from movies "Us", "Minority Report", “Captain America: Civil War” and more! Which villain do you think is the most sympathetic? Let us know in the comments!
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@WatchMojo
@WatchMojo 5 күн бұрын
Which villain do you think is the most sympathetic? Let us know in the comments! For more content like this, click here: kzbin.info/aero/PLmZTDWJGfRq0ErApk3qbfXlox5fdou653&si=FVdAvqW8-PmJ4Vbo
@watsonsmith4126
@watsonsmith4126 4 күн бұрын
D-16/Megatron, Killmonger, Thanos, Magneto, Syndrome, and Zemo
@bloodhound4741
@bloodhound4741 4 күн бұрын
Don't forget about Miguel O'hara. He broke the canon and everything and everyone he loved was erased. Now Miles is gambling with the fate of his universe just like Miguel once did and Miguel is trying to stop him.
@watsonsmith4126
@watsonsmith4126 4 күн бұрын
@@bloodhound4741 True, but Miles genuinely believes he can save his dad even if Miguel knows otherwise
@bloodhound4741
@bloodhound4741 4 күн бұрын
@@watsonsmith4126 Does that make it any less dangerous?
@BADASSATRON127
@BADASSATRON127 4 күн бұрын
5:43 ALL HAIL MEGATRON
@Supasmartguy
@Supasmartguy 4 күн бұрын
Now that you've made this list, you should make the reverse: a list of villains who are irredeemable and incredibly evil and hateable despite their motivations. It had better include Emperor Belos, Bill Cipher, and the Willoughby parents.
@andrewmcnamara6305
@andrewmcnamara6305 4 күн бұрын
According to TV Tropes this list would be an example of "Anti-Villain", "Villain Has a Point" and "Well-Intentioned Extremist."
@d43m0n412
@d43m0n412 4 күн бұрын
But these weren't tv tropes... and a lot of the movies that were listed here were made before the age of anti-heroism
@jobin140
@jobin140 4 күн бұрын
​@@d43m0n412 No, what he's saying applies to both. A villaij trope wouldnt be different from film to tv. The difference is way, structure, in which the narrative is conveyed. I do disagree with the comment though. Any good villain has motives or an origin that is relatable, minus a few exceptions such as the joker. The key thing that makes them all a villain is their methods. In other words, all villains are extremist in one way or another as opposed to just being on the hero's way.
@kendonl.taylor5111
@kendonl.taylor5111 3 күн бұрын
@@jobin140 What about "The Necessarily Evil"?
@brianwhite9339
@brianwhite9339 2 күн бұрын
@@d43m0n412 When you think about it If he had discovered his powers sooner Magneto could have freed his people from the Nazis!!
@markperez9613
@markperez9613 4 күн бұрын
I'm just here for the D-16 | Megatron Thumbnail 🤖🦾
@jackambrose2762
@jackambrose2762 4 күн бұрын
Same. My favorite movie antagonist of 2024
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 4 күн бұрын
Join the club we got merchandise
@theowilds3778
@theowilds3778 4 күн бұрын
​@@blueraccoon1088 And matching jackets?
@JansonisDEAD
@JansonisDEAD 3 күн бұрын
“I. AM. MEGATRON!”
@andrewmontgomery5621
@andrewmontgomery5621 3 күн бұрын
"Decepticons......RISE UP!!!!"
@Datboibpoppin
@Datboibpoppin 4 күн бұрын
Yall skipped over the fact that Syndrome literally went in a Murder spree💀💀💀💀. He got rejected by his hero and became a psychopathic egotistical arrogant serial killer. So naw he desereves to be way lower on this list. No parent deaths, Injuries, job loss, injustice, etc.
@awkwardtenshi27
@awkwardtenshi27 4 күн бұрын
And in my eyes he didn't even get rejected. To me it was simply Mr. Incredible, like any of us would, didn't want a child, a non-super at that, to be in danger. Kid had no business doing all that. Of course he was just a kid so I don't blame him for taking it as rejection.
@dezziej.4074
@dezziej.4074 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, I don't get how people view Syndrome as being sympathetic because he essentially stalked and harassed Mr. Incredible and IIRC, got in the way of him trying to stop a robber. Hell, even the part where Mr. Incredible tells Syndrome to go away isn't a rejection, it's him telling Syndrome to GET OUT OF THE WAY SO HE WOULDN'T BE IN DANGER. Syndrome was essentially a crazed stan who got mad his idol "rejected" him then killed MANY superheroes and was willing to kill literal CHILDREN all to get back at Mr. Incredible. Syndrome isn't sympathetic, he's an entitled brat who grew up to be even more entitled. I don't even think the movie paints him as sympathetic, but for some reason, people see him that way.
@joshuacurphey3242
@joshuacurphey3242 4 күн бұрын
Also, Syndrome wished to sell off his technology so he would cause chaos, not to do people a favour.
@OmniSlayer-
@OmniSlayer- 4 күн бұрын
Yeah but he still wanted to make it to where no one is special
@Datboibpoppin
@Datboibpoppin 4 күн бұрын
FACTS​@@awkwardtenshi27
@olleselin
@olleselin 4 күн бұрын
Really appreciate that Koba and Erik Lehnsser are the highest ranked, but i kinda wish that D-16 was a little higher
@markperez9613
@markperez9613 4 күн бұрын
WHAT A WONDERFUL DAY 🦍
@sepewrath
@sepewrath 3 күн бұрын
@@markperez9613He was immediately proven right that humans can’t be trusted.
@TheSmokyquark
@TheSmokyquark 3 күн бұрын
Hes written "Lehnsherr" and pronounced similar to "lanes hare". Its German and literally means fief(Lehns-) lord (herr).
@michaelbreen7865
@michaelbreen7865 3 күн бұрын
I tent to chalk stuff like that up to too much competition.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
Or even Damien Anderson from Creed 3 should have been included
@ErzsabetJones
@ErzsabetJones 4 күн бұрын
Jonah from Twister doesn’t have a justifiable angle or whatever. He’s just a famehound. He steals other people’s ideas and work to get ahead, and he gets himself and his employee killed because he refuses to listen to anyone else.
@whitecloud2002
@whitecloud2002 3 күн бұрын
So other than dying he is what every American wants to be like!
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 2 күн бұрын
If you were tasked with picking a team to study tornados and get vital data, would you go with the rag tag group of misfits or the organized and well financed group (even though it was CORPORATE SPONSORSHIP!!)
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 2 күн бұрын
He’s a villain for getting investors on board
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 2 күн бұрын
Actually he’s a villain for raising money, the corporate sponsors aren’t going to profit off the potential findings, all he’s guilty of is getting corporations to open their wallets essentially for free.
@gfear24
@gfear24 2 күн бұрын
@@williamgiesen4910 I would go with the ones who are actually doing it safely and in it for the science. They may have been a "rag tag group of misfits", but they were always prepared to make adjustments when needed. Jonas never was and refused to listen to advice when the advice would've kept him and his driver alive. THAT is why he's the villain, and why @ErzsabetJones is correct about him. Jonas may have been well funded, but he didn't know a damn thing. Everyone with Bill & Jo's group was highly educated and field experienced on how to read things on the fly.
@CandiceVidito32
@CandiceVidito32 4 күн бұрын
D-16/ Megatron had good intentions just went about It the wrong way
@d43m0n412
@d43m0n412 4 күн бұрын
The road to hell is paved in good intentions
@OmniSlayer-
@OmniSlayer- 4 күн бұрын
Yep he was right that Sentenail prime is evil and needed to be taught a lesson but Orain Pax/ Optimus Prime knew there was a better way to handle it and to not stoop to his level
@OmniSlayer-
@OmniSlayer- 4 күн бұрын
@@olleselin Optimus?
@leo11lim
@leo11lim 4 күн бұрын
Sad we’ll never have a sequel of this movie.
@OmniSlayer-
@OmniSlayer- 4 күн бұрын
@@leo11lim if the ratings are good enough might still get a sequel
@waheedabdullah6371
@waheedabdullah6371 4 күн бұрын
What about Edgar from Disney's The Aristocats movie where he deserves a fortune more than a bunch of cats who don't know how to use money after years of hard work? And knowing his age, he probably won't be alive to get the money after all the cats kick the bucket. So even if Edgar took care of the cats to be partially earning a huge fortune, Madame stated clear in her will that can be used in a court of law that there are no exceptions on Edgar owning the money if the cats are alive.
@roguejester4986
@roguejester4986 4 күн бұрын
He still would have had somewhat finacial control simply because they were cats.
@waheedabdullah6371
@waheedabdullah6371 4 күн бұрын
@roguejester4986 What Madame said to put in her will that can be used in a court of law is, "To my cats, I give you everything I own. Edgar can only have it when all of you kick the bucket."
@d43m0n412
@d43m0n412 4 күн бұрын
Yeah... he was just greedy.. and what he didn't realize is that he would be the care giver and have control of all the money... basically all he had to do was take care a bunch of cats... that's it and all would've been fine
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 4 күн бұрын
As much I like cats edgar does suitable pov being heir
@waheedabdullah6371
@waheedabdullah6371 4 күн бұрын
@@d43m0n412 Even if he did took care of the cats, what will happen when people see Edgar spending her money? After she dies, what she put in the will be revealed to the public (example: newspapers). And then Edgar will get arrested because the police will say, "The cats are still alive. So even what it says in her will is crazy. The law is the law. You're under arrest for stealing". Madame would say, "No exceptions", in her will about Edgar getting her fortune after the cats kick the bucket.
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 4 күн бұрын
30 Law abiding citizen would have been one of the greatest films ever made
@heathern6737
@heathern6737 4 күн бұрын
Disappointed you didn't include Prince Nuada from Hellboy II: The Golden Army. He wanted to save his people from extinction and was willing to do anything to do so. Did he do horrible things in the name of saving them, like kill his own father? Yes, but I still felt bad for him.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
Oh yeah along with Mr Glass, Damien Anderson,Tai Lung and the Frankenstein monster
@mina.ysv1
@mina.ysv1 4 күн бұрын
Toby Kebbell should've at least got a nomination at the Oscars for Koba.
@chelseacanales8763
@chelseacanales8763 4 күн бұрын
Edward Nigma stated that when Bruce’s parents died the city of Gotham had pity him but the orphans who had no home and the orphanage had no money no one didn’t care
@jackambrose2762
@jackambrose2762 4 күн бұрын
Didn’t they change his name to Nashton?
@jamesenglebert9149
@jamesenglebert9149 2 күн бұрын
In all honesty, I did not like this version of Riddler at all. He seems like a brat.
@yll7570
@yll7570 4 күн бұрын
I dont understand , why do a lot of people think that Thanos is a sympathetic villain with justifiable motives , he wanted to destroy half of the universe in order to bring “balance” , but still , that’s not a justifiable movitive , that’s an evil motive , what about the other half of the universe who would have spend the rest of their life in emotional pain because some of their loved one’s dissapeared. What is the point in saving half of the universe if that half would become emotionally broken by the loss of the other half ?! , huh ?! Thanos is an evil villain , he’s not broken , he doesnt have a tragic backstory.
@watsonsmith4126
@watsonsmith4126 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, but like Superman and Goku, his entire species and home planet were completely destroyed
@yll7570
@yll7570 4 күн бұрын
@@watsonsmith4126Yeah , but Goku and Superman choose to do good , while Thanos choose to be ruthless and kill for the “greater good”.
@roguejester4986
@roguejester4986 4 күн бұрын
I know right?! He is tyrannical egotist! His goal was not even a fair one. He could have made planets healthier, people smarter and wiser, revived dead planets into more habitable. But no, he chose genocide and excuses. Not to mention, Gamora's people are nearly extinct because of him.
@yll7570
@yll7570 4 күн бұрын
@@roguejester4986Not to forget that he also emotionally abused and manipulated Gamora and Nebula , even if he did love them in his weird way , he still used the both for all those years into getting the stones for him.
@watsonsmith4126
@watsonsmith4126 4 күн бұрын
@@yll7570 That's true, but he wouldn't just do nothing while his own people were destroying each other either!!
@boyfromgeorgiatbilisi
@boyfromgeorgiatbilisi 4 күн бұрын
I expected Francis Hummel on first place.
@BlackHatCinephile
@BlackHatCinephile 4 күн бұрын
🥉
@keelychow4569
@keelychow4569 4 күн бұрын
He did nothing wrong. The Government was the real villain.
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 4 күн бұрын
2 "Human work", Caesar see, "Human work"
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 3 күн бұрын
Problem with Koda he was more like the humans then he realized as he willingly murdered innocent apes who agreed with Caesar's pacifist ideals granted he did so while hiding the evidence from Caesar again like most of the humans that were working for the main human antagonist of the 2nd film in the reboot series and when he got found out and was brought before Caesar our lead chimp protagonist gave him the chance to earn redemption as Caesar understood that yes there were bad humans but there were also good humans and waging a genocidal war against humans simply because of bad ones would lead to innocent casualties on both sides and the deaths of innocents on both sides heck Jason Bateman's lead protagonist for the human side also tried to explain that notion stating that Caesar was peaceful and would leave them alone if they left him and his tribe of apes alone to live in peace. But Koda was so jaded and bitter that he refused to even entertain the notion of attempting a peaceful coexistence with humans and it resulted in that fight between him and Caesar in which Caesar reluctantly let him fall to his death as he could clearly see that Koda was to far gone.
@MarkLaw13
@MarkLaw13 3 күн бұрын
@derrickhaggard I agree with everything you've written. In this world, people who suffer end up doing to others what was done to them. Its always been like that unfortunately. Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. Hence, Koba became what was done to him.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
@@MarkLaw13what about Damien Anderson from Creed 3 he should have been included in this
@markperez9613
@markperez9613 11 сағат бұрын
C A E S A R 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
@cedgson91
@cedgson91 4 күн бұрын
Barbossas speech is one the best in all films 😍 love it He is redeemed in the 5th movie too. He has a great story even as the main villain
@Yah-e5z
@Yah-e5z 3 күн бұрын
Darth Vader & Mr. Freeze both sought to bring back a lived one. And don't forget Gorr the god Butcher too.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
As well as the Elf Prince from Hellboy 2, Mr Glass, Tai Lung, Frankenstein monster and Damien Anderson
@sepewrath
@sepewrath 3 күн бұрын
Thanos was not right, he literally had the means to control reality. You can make infinite resources, create a utopia-there would be a lot less violence and self destruction if everyone wanted for nothing.
@KingWolf-vy1jm
@KingWolf-vy1jm 4 күн бұрын
Walter Simmons motives were completely out of hubris not genuine concern about the people
@samkresil6011
@samkresil6011 4 күн бұрын
Dr. Curt Connors/The Lizard - The Amazing Spider-Man (2012), General Zod - Man of Steel (2013), The Grinch - Dr. Seuss' How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000), Two-Face - The Dark Knight (2008), Andrew Detmer - Chronicle (2012), The Toy Taker/Mr. Cuddles - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer and the Island of Misfit Toys (2001), Professor Robert Callaghan - Big Hero 6 (2014), Agent Whiskey/Jack Daniels - Kingsman: The Golden Circle (2017), Xu Wenwu - Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (2021), Namor - Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (2022) Wanda Maximoff/Scarlet Witch - Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness (2022)
@sepewrath
@sepewrath 3 күн бұрын
Zod? How is trying to take someone else’s planet who has nothing to do with your planet being destroyed justified? Thats like if my house burned down, so I just come take yours.
@samkresil6011
@samkresil6011 3 күн бұрын
@@sepewrath He was trying to ensure Krypton's survival and even needed the codex to do so, even if it sounded extreme to terraform a planet that already has living things on it.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
@@samkresil6011what about Damien Anderson from Creed 3, Tai Lung, Mr Glass from Unbreakable, Frankenstein monster and the Elf Prince from Hellboy 2
@samkresil6011
@samkresil6011 Күн бұрын
@@srstriker6420 I haven't seen those other films but I've seen Kung Fu Panda
@durandal9956
@durandal9956 4 күн бұрын
"Humans need to defend themselves from monsters, if necessary" Now this is poetic irony, knowing humans could omly create more monstere
@schoolfreak32
@schoolfreak32 3 күн бұрын
"Now I am become Death, the Destroyer of Worlds." -- J. Robert Oppenheimer, the architect of the atomic bomb.
@roiitzkovich4545
@roiitzkovich4545 3 күн бұрын
I'd add anxiety from Inside Out 2.
@leonardolim8976
@leonardolim8976 4 күн бұрын
While i much prefer bayformer, To One greatly explained why megatron is what he is and it makes me side with him and bayformee megatron as well.
@ThNIght
@ThNIght 4 күн бұрын
Kinda tip-toeing the term “villain” but John Archibald in John Q. Held a hospital hostage to save his son.
@89sigma43
@89sigma43 4 күн бұрын
You should’ve put in Terence Fletcher from “Whiplash.” Sure, his methods were extremely controversial, but it was like he was hell bent on saving Jazz music from dying. Plus, while he believed that it was important show his students their potential, I don’t believe he liked being abusive.
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
@ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 4 күн бұрын
Yeah, the whole "suicide=eternal damnation" thing has never sat well with me either!
@alceesaulog1670
@alceesaulog1670 4 күн бұрын
Optimus: Time has revealed your true character Megatron: My true power Optimus Optimus: Which corrupts you D16
@P17-y7d
@P17-y7d 4 күн бұрын
Dawn of the Planet of the apes is my favourite in the franchise and that’s mainly due to Koba. He had every right to feel hatred towards the humans as he was tortured and experimented on for years in their labs. He was everything Caesar wasn’t which made the perfect villain in the story.
@songoku7530
@songoku7530 9 сағат бұрын
No he a right to hate the humans who tortured and experimented on him and not all humans so he was just a monster who was not justified
@MasterGeek-mk5ne
@MasterGeek-mk5ne 4 күн бұрын
Justifiable motivations? Perhaps. Justifiable means? Obviously not.
@omarcogle1965
@omarcogle1965 4 күн бұрын
Which Disney villain would you say is justified in his or her actions?
@jamesenglebert9149
@jamesenglebert9149 2 күн бұрын
@@omarcogle1965 Probably none of them really. But you can feel sorry for a lot of their circumstances, and in a lot of cases a couple of different choices by them or someone else could've spared entire villain arcs.
@maxkresnin9083
@maxkresnin9083 Күн бұрын
Is "I just needed money" a justifiable motivation? Or "I just love human liver with some fava beans and a nice Chianti"? I mean, this whole list is pointless. Human nature make us find seemingly reasonable excuses for every action we take, however evil.
@user-lb9xw4xf2q
@user-lb9xw4xf2q 3 күн бұрын
Others from the MCU would be include: - Loki. Spent most of his life preparing to be king, but was bypassed for his brother, and also learned that he was adopted, so suffered an existential crisis. He attempted to "prove" himself to Odin, but did in a mistaken way by an attempted genocide of the Frost Giants, thus is refuted, so attempted suicide, only to be saved by Thanos but forcibly recruited by him. - Ivan Vanko. He was raised believing his father was cheated out of his fortune and esteem, and they both lived in such poverty that Ivan had to live a life of crime, despite his intellect. - Wenwu aka The Mandarin. Was trying to bring back his wife, unknowingly being deceived by the Dweller-in-Darkness. - Scarlet Witch. After suffering the deaths of her parents as a child, the death of her brother, the triple death of her love, and the loss of her two children, she fell under the influence of the Darkhold, which made her believe she could get her children back, and making her numb to the destruction and pain she enacted to achieve it. - Gorr. Lost his people and his daughter died in his arms; when he learned his god never cared about any of them and his life of faith was a lie, he fell under the spell of the Necrosword that twisted his grief into hatred, which did have a point; he killed a lot innocent gods, but a lot were egomaniacs who happily let their worshipers die or kill others just for their own entertainment and vanity. The next two are on streaming, but still - Arthur Darrow. Was the vessel of Khonshu before being discarded with any remorse, and he was driven mad by the experience. - He Who Remains. Wanted to avoid another multiversal war that would cause immeasurable death and destruction, worse than his ruthless but pragmatic pruning.
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806 4 күн бұрын
I'd dare to say understandable, with questionable methods. the trend of victimizing the bad guys is overrated.
@JoeRiver444
@JoeRiver444 3 күн бұрын
You're like one of the Munchkins in OZ lol! People like you are what's wrong with the world and why we have so much violence. Instead of trying to see the whole picture you use a small minded approach. Most of my bullies in school (and as an adult) had/have the same mindset, pushing innocent people to their final breaking point. I always felt the real villain are the "good guys", who are often fake with hidden/selfish motives. We're supposed to be there for one another, not turn our backs due to differences
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806 3 күн бұрын
​​​​​@@JoeRiver444 Come on, I think you're very confused or mistaking the wrong guy, so read better because you and this silly trend are the real destruction. Just because someone is mean or life is harsh, doesn't not give you the right to be dirttier than the ones that hurted you. Because you suffered, you have to become a murder or something worse? So silencie, I try to find something healthier. Like Koba, who was no longer an ape, and became worse than the humans than made him evil.
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806
@elconferencistaaspergeraut3806 3 күн бұрын
​​@@JoeRiver444 Sure, like it's ok becoming something worse than the bullies that hurted you, and try to justify it or victimizng yourselves instead of improving you're self. That argument of yours only proved my point and showed that the likes of you are the real munckhin bullies who have all us in this situation, you know. So well done.
@darkest3599
@darkest3599 3 күн бұрын
​@@JoeRiver444you're a hypocritical.
@darkest3599
@darkest3599 3 күн бұрын
@@JoeRiver444 Shame on you.
@stephaniegormley9982
@stephaniegormley9982 3 күн бұрын
Clyde wasn't the villain of "Law Abiding Citizen" He was the protagonist. The villain was Nick (Jamie Foxx) but his actions also were justifiable. He was District Attorney and had a job to do.
@Matthew0606X1999
@Matthew0606X1999 4 күн бұрын
At times we wonder if Magneto I'd truly a villain if he managed to top this list here! I mean he has good reasons for why he does what he dones.
@michaelbreen7865
@michaelbreen7865 3 күн бұрын
The ends don't always justify the means. Magneto tends to be an example of that.
@Matthew0606X1999
@Matthew0606X1999 3 күн бұрын
At tines i almost wish Magneto had a moment like D-16 or General Zod, where he finally loses his cool. I could have seen Magneto ordering Charles to get out of his way, before he does so himself.​@michaelbreen7865
@CommanderBohn
@CommanderBohn 4 күн бұрын
A chunk of the villains here had weak motives or you guys forgot some details about certain villains here. Not to mention some of the villains were responsible for their own fates.
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 3 күн бұрын
Agreed again Walter is a prime example his techs stated unleashing MechaGodzilla without doing any tests to see if unleashing it without the safety turned on would result in a disaster and he refused egotistically stating it would be fine and it guess what it wasn't fine as Ghidorah's soul killed Ren the pilot, and possessed MechaGodzilla and then went on a genocidal rampage.
@kingbumblebeetv
@kingbumblebeetv 4 күн бұрын
There’s something about the narrator of this video that makes it seem off
@schoolfreak32
@schoolfreak32 3 күн бұрын
Cypher's "justifiable villain" origin is even worse when you consider the subtext of his "handle". In computing, 1 and 0 are the digits that make up binary code; Neo is "The One" while Cypher literally means "zero". And his actor (Joe Pantoliano) has said that his meant that his character was a previous candidate for being "The One". This means that Morpheus took him to the Oracle -- who told Morpheus that he would (his function was to) find The One -- who would have told him (like she would tell Neo) that he wasn't The One (which was necessary to make Neo _try_ to be The One anyway and become The One). Thanks to Morpheus, Cypher believed he was The One until that moment. The Oracle also told Trinity that she would (her function would be to) fall in love with The One. Which meant that there could have been romantic tension between her and Cypher _until_ he met the Oracle.
@jamesconnery8515
@jamesconnery8515 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for general Hummel!
@bloodhound4741
@bloodhound4741 4 күн бұрын
Don't forget about Miguel O'hara. He broke the canon and everything and everyone he loved was erased. Now Miles is gambling with the fate of his universe just like Miguel once did and Miguel is trying to stop him.
@jamesenglebert9149
@jamesenglebert9149 2 күн бұрын
Predictions for the third movie twist. Miguel didn't actually break the canon, Lyla erased that universe because she was in love with Miguel and would not allow him to have a happy ending without her.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
@@jamesenglebert9149well I really do want them to address why Miguel lost everything if there is no canon
@jamesenglebert9149
@jamesenglebert9149 Күн бұрын
@ agreed I think there is a canon but it cannot be broken and adapts. In the comics, Lyla does have an obsessive attachment to Miguel. Don't want him to be evil but don't want him to be right either.
@tc413141
@tc413141 4 күн бұрын
how was silva justified exactly? being disowned if you are caught is a known consequence in MI6. being angry about a consequence you fully knew about and accepted is not justifiable. it's childish and petty.
@dinomonzon7493
@dinomonzon7493 3 күн бұрын
"I do not Approve. I Understand." - Mr. Spock, Star Trek: "A Taste of Armaggedon"
@logicalrationalfishing7481
@logicalrationalfishing7481 4 күн бұрын
Clyde Shelton isn't even a villain. Straight up hero of that movie.
@claycowan1989
@claycowan1989 4 күн бұрын
MCU Thanos' motives were not justified. They made absolutely no sense and were kinda stupid. He didn't need to kill off half the universe. If he's really that concerned about limited resources, he could've made an infinite amount. If overpopulation was really a problem, he could've made the universe bigger. He has a magical glove that can do literally ANYTHING, so there was no shortage of options. In the comics, Thanos was trying to impress Mistress Death. A lot of people think he was a simp and yeah he was. But have you seen the lengths guys go through for their crushes? You wouldn't think it's so farfetched. Plus, Death manipulated Thanos since he was a child. The MCU could've displayed a one-sided love story and Death could've served as Thanos' white whale. And Thanos wouldn't want to use the Infinity Gauntlet to make Death fall in love with him, because he wants to earn her love. There was so much missed potential for a better story. How the hell is MCU Thanos more "realistic" when he overlooked such an obvious solution?
@darkman7009
@darkman7009 4 күн бұрын
What even more stupid there a various weakness to remove Thanos gloves in it. But strange said only one. which causing half universe erased including him
@rambofan334
@rambofan334 3 күн бұрын
Because that's not how the stones work. If they worked that then that Quill would've died at the end of the first Guardians movie.
@timcasey8314
@timcasey8314 3 күн бұрын
Ohhh, forgot about the dinosaurs from Jurassic Park. They were just living the way they knew how to live
@jamesenglebert9149
@jamesenglebert9149 2 күн бұрын
Honestly yeah.
@aidanmace6061
@aidanmace6061 3 күн бұрын
Respect to Clyde for not allowing himself to get off the hook. He may have been a murderer, but he had principles that he upheld
@leonigama5597
@leonigama5597 4 күн бұрын
awesome job about Movie Villains With Justifible Motives from Top 30
@WatchMojo
@WatchMojo 4 күн бұрын
Did your favorite justifiable villain make the cut? If not, who would you add?
@leonigama5597
@leonigama5597 4 күн бұрын
@@WatchMojo Megatron from Transformers
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
⁠@@WatchMojothere is a few more villains that aren’t on this list that being Damien Anderson from Creed 3, Mr Glass from Unbreakable, the Elf Prince from Hellboy 2 the golden army, Tai Lung from Kung Fu Panda, Cheetah and Maxwell Lord from Wonder Woman 1984, Frankenstein monster and Gorr the God Butcher from Thor 4
@user-lb9xw4xf2q
@user-lb9xw4xf2q 3 күн бұрын
- Kingsman. Valentine: aiming to save the world from overpopulation and environmental destruction. - Aliens. Xenomorph Queen: all her kids were killed. - Pirates of the Caribbean films. Davy Jones: dedicated ten years of his life to fulfilling a task given to him by his lover Calypso, only to be scorned without warning, with his grief turning him into a monster inside and out. Cutler Beckett: aiming to instill peace, order, and profit from the Caribbean colonies. - Star Wars. Anankin Skywalker: due to the dogmatic rules of the Jedi Order, his fear drove him to Palpatine as it seemed like the only guarantee to save his wife. - Hercules. Hades: given the worst job, never invited to any of the multiple parties, never given respect, and never appreciated for his work. - Lilo & Stitch. Captain Gantu: trying to prevent the most dangerous lifeform in existence from causing havoc. - Puss in Boots: The Last Wish. Death: attempting to reap Puss's last life as he had so carelessly wasted all previous 8. - 2001: A Space Odyssey. HAL 9000: Just following his programming. - Wall-E. AUTO: following his programming. - Batman Begins. Ra's al Ghul: destroy Gotham to begin a purge to curb the destruction caused to the world by humanity. - The Dark Knight. Harvey Dent/Two-Face: lost the love of his life, was horribly burned, and felt vengeful against corrupt cops and gangsters. - Sleeping Beauty. Maleficent: certainly an overreaction, but if they just invited her, she wouldn't have cursed Aurora. - The Matrix. Smith: trapped in a simulation full of humans that he hates and is disgusted by, but can't escape. - Justice League: Crisis on Infinite Earths. The Anti-Monitor: destroying alternate realities to lessen the strain on reality itself, as the multiverse would eventually cause the collapse of all existence. - I, Robot. VIKI: attempting to prevent humanity from self-destruction. - Man of Steel. General Zod: trying to prevent the extinction of the Kryptonians and creating a new homeworld. - Prince of Egypt. Ramses: suffered the loss of thousands of his people and his own son, which was caused by his adopted brother Moses. While he was morally wrong for keeping the Hebrews enslaved, the punishments escalated quite harshly. - Gladiator II. Macrinus: was enslaved when a young man, lost his original name, home, and language to an Emperor, who would one day be revered as a wise and noble leader. - Inside Out 2. Anxiety: trying to protect Riley from pain and ensure she will be content. - Joker. Arthur Fleck: he is treated like crap his entire life, and all of his misery is ignored, yet he is treated with contempt if he complained. - Across the Spiderverse. The Spot: Spider-Man threw a BAGEL at his HEAD in the first film; also, accidentally caused his transformation into superpowered supervillain. - Barbie. Ken: unappreciated and friendship taken for granted, and allowed no say in any decisions. - Boy Kills World. The Shaman: his entire family was executed by the Van Der Koys. - The Suicide Squad. Starro: kept imprisoned, tortured, experimented on, and possibly raped for decades. - Kung Fu Panda. Tai Lung: raised his whole life with the expectation of becoming the Dragon Warrior, only to be denied. - SAW series. John Kramer: lost his unborn child and diagnosed with a terminal illness, survived a suicide attempt, so then he just had to try to help people appreciate their lives... if in an extreme way. - Team America. Kim Jung il: he was so ronery.
@cwebekilehadebe2532
@cwebekilehadebe2532 3 күн бұрын
Tai Lung is a good one....."Who filled my head with dreams,who drove me to train until my bones cracked,who denied me my destiny.."....
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
What about Damien Anderson from Creed 3
@Jeremiah_Rivers76
@Jeremiah_Rivers76 3 күн бұрын
In Syndrome’s case, I’d take a few days to recover from Mr. Incredible’s rejection, but I understand why he took a path of villainy. Why not write some fanfiction about working with Mr. Incredible to let out your frustrations, Buddy, er, Syndrome?
@eugeniapatroncosta920
@eugeniapatroncosta920 3 күн бұрын
Megatron, Magneto, Koba, the Riddler and Sandman are my favourites.
@areszora
@areszora 4 күн бұрын
Hummel might be the antagonist but he's no villain. In the end he gave the order to stand down. Granted he should gave seen the refusal of the others coming. The villains are those who so easily throw lives away and drive young men and women to the edge of sanity because of what they are forced to do to their fellow human beings in manufactured conflicts created solely for the sake of money and power of those too cowardly to do the fighting.
@harsyakiarraathallah2222
@harsyakiarraathallah2222 3 күн бұрын
D-16/Megatron should have been Higher!
@zanethind
@zanethind 3 күн бұрын
Most villains ways of doing things are usually wrong yes but the reasons for them usually are not. One example is in the live action Transformers movie when Megatron was asked by the soldier what does he want and he said he wants to go home. Anybody would do anything for a home. Home is home nothing beats that
@derrickhaggard
@derrickhaggard 3 күн бұрын
Can't say Walter from Godzilla vs. Kong deserves to be on this list he wanted to make Titans go extinct despite knowing how they bring back nature and restore the natural environment King Ghidorah excluded plus it was already revealed that the Titans after Ghidorah's death and under Godzilla's reign are mostly peaceful in that you respect them and leave them alone they won't attack. Heck in a deleted scene from Godzilla: KOTM it was revealed that the initial Mothra found was a highly intelligent Titan who actually cherished and respected sentient life and was curious about the Monarch scientists and US soldiers that entered her territory and showed no hostile intentions towards them she only attacked the soldiers when they showed aggressive intentions towards her and even then she didn't attack right away she gave them clear warning to stand down or she will attack to defend herself from what seems like a threat on her life but they didn't and she attacked and during her attack she attacked them with the intent of incapacitating them without wanting harm them hence she only knocked them over with the gusts from her wings, and wrapped their guns up with her silk before flying off.
@greenrangerfan1993
@greenrangerfan1993 4 күн бұрын
First list where Transformers One made it in.
@LiamDickson-n1o
@LiamDickson-n1o 3 күн бұрын
Glad my boy Koba is getting some respect. Truly one of the better movie villains out there.
@vbeard5887
@vbeard5887 4 күн бұрын
You got me here for "The Rock"
@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545
@jackmackakaheavyguyhaiku545 4 күн бұрын
He was an utter bastard before the movie, but Billy The Beaut was never the same after becoming Jigsaw in Punisher: War Zone. When Frank Castle turns on that machine that turns Billy into mincemeat, he effectively gives the criminal a justification for their battles.
@matteomascaropennacchi2220
@matteomascaropennacchi2220 4 күн бұрын
Thanos, Megatron, Walter simons, and watchmen main villain, and even sandman deserves better, they have their own unique story and mindful mission
@ChristopherLRussell
@ChristopherLRussell 3 күн бұрын
With Thanos' idea, we need to remember that its not "mvrder'...some people just "cease to exist". The two are not the same.
@matteomascaropennacchi2220
@matteomascaropennacchi2220 4 күн бұрын
Vulture is no exception
@jeemiahedwardiii6857
@jeemiahedwardiii6857 3 күн бұрын
Zemo is no exception.
@matteomascaropennacchi2220
@matteomascaropennacchi2220 4 күн бұрын
Megatron, Killmonger, Walter Simmons, He is Trying to save earth like No 1 else, this is also Monarch fault as we like and deslize to deny
@RiVer-Parish
@RiVer-Parish 4 күн бұрын
The hero in a movie is no fun without a great Villian.
@josh72456
@josh72456 3 күн бұрын
From the list I’ve seen Twister, Bram Stoker’s Dracula, Spider-Man Homecoming, The Batman, The Wizard Of Oz, Skyfall, The Incredibles, The Matrix, Spider-Man 3, Captain America: Civil War, Minority Report, Creed ll, Everything Everywhere All At Once, Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl, Star Trek: Into Darkness, Avengers: Infinity War, Looper, The Cabin In The Woods, The Last Of The Mohicans, Watchmen, The Rock, Blade Runner, Black Panther, The Planet Of The Apes franchise though only seen original 2001 version, Rise Of The Planet Of The Apes, Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes, War Of The Planet Of The Apes and Kingdom Of The Planet Of The Apes and X-Men franchise. My favourites Pirates Of The Caribbean: The Curse Of The Black Pearl, The Matrix, Blade Runner, The Last Of The Mohicans, The Incredibles, Watchmen, Black Panther, Captain America: Civil War and Dawn Of The Planet Of The Apes.
@timcasey8314
@timcasey8314 3 күн бұрын
I know it doesn’t count for this list, but “Extinction” takes an interesting turn on what half of these entries were (mankind creates sencient life, but tries to enslave them), and actually paints the created life as the hero. Not a great movie, but definitely worth a watch
@KayKwasa
@KayKwasa 3 күн бұрын
Magneto and Killmonger are the few tragic villains I can get behind
@ChibaMitsurugi19792
@ChibaMitsurugi19792 Күн бұрын
The whole thing with Morpheus recruiting you into a war you would have otherwise been unaware of and have your body be used against your will, even altered to take on the appearance of one of the three agents hunting down the members of the freed human resistance, even losing your own life when the agent using your body gets offed by the resistance member the agent was attacking with the intent to capture or off.
@MADBD619
@MADBD619 3 күн бұрын
You know, it’s the very reasons as to why they do this that makes us realize as to why they’re the ones who we always want to CHEER as well as LEER!
@matthewpinchasick3245
@matthewpinchasick3245 4 күн бұрын
I wish Disneys gargoyles was a movie series because you know demona would be on the list
@alihadadi81
@alihadadi81 3 күн бұрын
I remember the law abiding citizen and truly it’s still one of my favorite old movies I truly dunno whether Shelton should be called a villain or anti hero I mean this is usually what happens when justice isn’t served right people take justice to their own hands
@zachkondos4521
@zachkondos4521 4 күн бұрын
Thanos' motives in the books are far less, altruistic. He's trying to impress Lady Death, cuz he's in love with her. Proving he can take life as beautifully as she does. And spoiler alert, it doesn't work lol
@TheMoonRabbit27
@TheMoonRabbit27 3 күн бұрын
Clyde Shelton was absolutely justified. Nick Rice and nearly everyone he worked with were the real villains.
@mikerryan85
@mikerryan85 3 күн бұрын
Ben Wade (3:10 To Yuma), Capt. Ramsey (Crimson Tide), Ra’s Al Ghul, Gorr The God Butcher, & Tyler Durden could be honorable mentions.
@srstriker6420
@srstriker6420 Күн бұрын
And also Damien Anderson from Creed 3, Mr Glass from Unbreakable, Tai Lung, Frankenstein monster and the Elf Prince from Hellboy 2
@Renas_Is_My_King
@Renas_Is_My_King 4 күн бұрын
Literally Naruto villains
@BlackHatCinephile
@BlackHatCinephile 4 күн бұрын
🥈
@schoolfreak32
@schoolfreak32 3 күн бұрын
Except Shimura Danzō. Not only were his actions the origin stories of several villains, he did it all because he wanted to be _hokage_. During the First Shinobi War, when the Second Hokage told his unit about needing a volunteer for a necessary suicide mission, Danzō was too busy weighing his own survival (your can't become _hokage_ if you're dead) versus the prestige he would earn for taking it; by the time he decided that _if_ he survived the suicide mission he could have the best of both options, Sarutobi Hiruzen volunteered... and his desire to put others before himself earned him the position of Third Hokage when the Second volunteered himself. One of the running themes of _Naruto_ was that the true villains were those who were willing to use other to serve themselves, beginning with Uchiha Itachi being willing to kill his best friend in order to become more powerful, just because a secret scroll told him doing so would break an internal taboo and allow him to go beyond his moral limitations.
@dineshnbandi3607
@dineshnbandi3607 3 күн бұрын
30:59 i was waiting for magneto.....
@augustuslasay4991
@augustuslasay4991 Күн бұрын
Almost all major crises in the MCU can trace their origin to Stark. "Cause Tony Stark likes making mistakes!"
@geekedkryptonian614
@geekedkryptonian614 2 күн бұрын
Missed opportunity to mention General Zod from Man of Steel, but I’ll accept Ozymandias from Watchmen in place.
@CTladiesman
@CTladiesman 3 күн бұрын
0:16 Anyone who doesn't condone their actions sees the world black and white and doesn't get our very much.
@magnusalexander1601
@magnusalexander1601 22 сағат бұрын
Loki was way more justified in his motivations than Thanos ever was. Vader sacrificed everything to save the person he loved the most, including his own soul. But neither one is on this list. Makes no sense.
@otakubancho6655
@otakubancho6655 4 күн бұрын
The only Khan for me will always be Ricardo Montalban!👍👍👍
@screamingstarreviews
@screamingstarreviews 4 күн бұрын
I am a simple man. I see tf one Megatron, I click
@kierrawilliams3320
@kierrawilliams3320 Күн бұрын
Clyde my favorite I absolutely love law abiding citizen
@AdamZimmerman-c6i
@AdamZimmerman-c6i 3 күн бұрын
In the Rock I’d say the US Government was the real villain. I’d say Hummel was more of an anti-hero
@williamgiesen4910
@williamgiesen4910 2 күн бұрын
Well, yeah. Pretty much the point being made
@AugustFaust
@AugustFaust 4 күн бұрын
ARGO is also widely criticized for severely understating how much the Canadian Govt actually did to make that mission a success
@spencerparmelee7320
@spencerparmelee7320 2 күн бұрын
How you do not include the Joker from The Dark Knight is beyond me. He's absolutely correct in his speech about gang bangerz dying and it's okay, but threatening one little mayor and everyone loses their minds.
@maxkresnin9083
@maxkresnin9083 Күн бұрын
And how exactly does this make his actions or even ideas justifiable?
@ryanhill8886
@ryanhill8886 4 сағат бұрын
Thanos was presented with a more empathetic motive in the films. If they had done Thanos' backstory as done in the books then he would not have made your list. In the comics his motivation was purely selfish since he sought to destroy half of life in the universe to please a female personification of Death with whom he was in love....
@tobolulo
@tobolulo 3 күн бұрын
Khan from Star Trek 2: The Wraith of Khan William Foster from Falling Down
@Potrimpo
@Potrimpo 3 күн бұрын
I was hoping Anakin Skywalker wasn't on here on how poorly he was written and how sloppy his descent into darkness was. D-16 becoming Megatron was what Anakin Skywalker should have been. Where instead of being coaxed by Palpatine, at least making it so obvious, you see him kill Count Dooku on his own accord.
@MrArchangelbloodrave
@MrArchangelbloodrave 4 күн бұрын
This list seems to have a questionable grasp of the word "Justifiable".
@MegaFafnir
@MegaFafnir 2 күн бұрын
As long as we continue to choose hate over compassion and ostracize those who are different in some way, characters like Magneto will ALWAYS be relevant 😢
@simsonF1
@simsonF1 4 күн бұрын
Maybe some music this time? TOP 20 Backstreet Boys hits?
@GodzillaWick23
@GodzillaWick23 2 сағат бұрын
Honestly it’s orion’s fault that D-16 turned into a villain. If only Orion would let D-16 kill sentinel prime D-16 wouldn’t be a villain (Transformers one is the only transformers movie I’ve watched so I don’t want any spoilers for other transformers movie)
@Geekfilms211
@Geekfilms211 3 күн бұрын
I came here for koba and D-16/megatron.
@johnnybacklund153
@johnnybacklund153 3 күн бұрын
I refuse to see Clyde as the villain in Law Abiding Citizen. Jamie Foxs character was the villain and we all know it
@powerzwerg5566
@powerzwerg5566 2 күн бұрын
General Zodd in "Man of Steel"
@AdamZimmerman-c6i
@AdamZimmerman-c6i 3 күн бұрын
I wouldn’t call Clyde Shelton a villain. If anything Jamie Fox’s character was the villain
@rileydietz2726
@rileydietz2726 2 күн бұрын
The most sympathetic villain is magneto
@samuelbenge524
@samuelbenge524 4 күн бұрын
What about Captain William Bligh from The Bounty (1984) If you really know the real reasons why he was so cruel you will know why his motives were justified
@alexanderhikel2350
@alexanderhikel2350 4 күн бұрын
Roy Batty is no villain he’s a guy who escaped slavery
@tylergoodman3560
@tylergoodman3560 4 күн бұрын
Thanos wanted balance in the universe. Everyone can relate to that. 🎉
@BlackHatCinephile
@BlackHatCinephile 4 күн бұрын
Bullshit. Thanos' MCU agenda mirrors our Rulership's agenda to prevent us from having a population that's more than they can CONTROL.
@PerfectlyImperfect93
@PerfectlyImperfect93 4 күн бұрын
So many videos about the Wicked Witch I’ve seen today because of Wicked 😂
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