Top 5 ADV Sand Riding Tips| Adventure Motorcycle Training

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SoCal Off-Road School

SoCal Off-Road School

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@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool 7 ай бұрын
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@jMoik
@jMoik Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very instructive video. I’m 75 years old and ride a 750GS. Had a very bad experience in “sugar sand” and thereafter was terrified of sand. Began to practice on a sand road close to home. Your tips were very helpful, particularly using second gear, building and keeping momentum - changed everything. Now I enjoy “defeating” the sand road that previously intimidated me. Thank you
@karlwebb8914
@karlwebb8914 8 ай бұрын
Another great video for a 69 year old newbie off-road rider👍 thanks very much for such clear instruction 👍 cheers Karl in Oz 😊
@Grzybo93
@Grzybo93 7 ай бұрын
My sand riding anxiety kicked in just by watching this vid
@johnwiffen6655
@johnwiffen6655 6 ай бұрын
snap.
@casparwilliams1507
@casparwilliams1507 Ай бұрын
😅
@thomascorcoran9556
@thomascorcoran9556 Жыл бұрын
Great content…I’m “ok” on a dirtbike in the sand but the ADV bike is still very intimidating on deep sand
@MrRickrm
@MrRickrm Жыл бұрын
Great video. Grew up riding sand in the Mojave desert on a 72 susuki TM 400 it was a blast. Now at 70 on a susuki vstrom 650a I'm hating it.
@user-mj6fe5jf9z
@user-mj6fe5jf9z Жыл бұрын
This is all excellent advice as are your other videos and is normal practice for riding off-road in general. What would be a good companion video is to see you riding that sand with a loaded ADV bike with 40-60lbs of gear, and full riding gear. That is a completely different animal compared to a naked bike with just a rider.
@simonomallon9035
@simonomallon9035 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic.. as always. This really belps me understand what went wrong in sand previously. Awesome. Much appreciated. Simon, Australia
@mehGyver
@mehGyver 2 ай бұрын
These tips are soooo appreciated! As a brand new rider living in AZ, sandy washes are just part of the deal, and having tweaked my knee on a first ride crashing in the sane, I see all the things I did wrong. Not keeping my speed up was the biggest failure. It's so counterintuitive to go faster when you think going slow would yield more control.
@harleyrider883
@harleyrider883 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video. Very clear and great explanation of the underlying logics. Couldn't be more helpful!
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool 4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Waaay better than most "adv gurus". Motocross guys need to be teaching ADV, not street riders turned ADV. My .02. People going to get hurt.
@sparraps3476
@sparraps3476 5 ай бұрын
I was just on a steep uphill climb on an FSR, I was in 3rd going about 45-50 kph. I came around a bend where there was a dry sand hill wash out on the road. It was a surprise to start swimming all over the road, but keeping up the speed and staying committed made all the difference. of course it was intimidating when I came back down, but I had no other choice than to commit and maintain. Fear is our own worst enemy.
@4LowRocks
@4LowRocks 11 ай бұрын
I really liked that you described and rode this on a bike equipped with typical ADV tires that many/most of us will have on our bikes - a 50/50 tire. Many other videos on this topic are done with off-road biased (full knobby tires). I realize that those could be of significant help to running in the sand, but the average ADV rider will probably have something more akin to a 50/50 tire if they plan to be anywhere near sand. Thanks!
@mikedenning9356
@mikedenning9356 Жыл бұрын
Best sand riding technique video I’ve seen…great info!
@RamblingRuters
@RamblingRuters Жыл бұрын
Great tips here, living in AZ plenty of sand to contend with, I’d add that its super important to make sure your traction control plays into the throttle control, I had to keep mine at the lowest level, level 1 to keep it from taking the power away which robs your momentum in sand, momentum is key and I’ve had my fair share of dumping the bike but I’ve learned a lot from just getting out there & doing it, great instructions brother.
@iftogo
@iftogo 7 ай бұрын
Just got back from riding some deep sand trails in Borrego - which was exhausting on a 600lb adv bike in 90 degree heat. Looking forward to trying out the techniques described here, especially for the turns. Thanks for posting
@HRAZZI
@HRAZZI Жыл бұрын
I don't drive off road yet, but I definitely enjoy your content to build up the confidence so that I would one day.
@michaelsupple6081
@michaelsupple6081 Жыл бұрын
Excellent advice. Usually all I hear is sit back and gas it!
@californiaclassiccars3944
@californiaclassiccars3944 Жыл бұрын
Like always, easy and effective. Tom
@CurtisBrandt
@CurtisBrandt Жыл бұрын
Great presentation. Sand is truly challenging on these bikes. These are a good set of reminders to maintain rock solid basics and charge it. Thank you.
@steverunnalls97
@steverunnalls97 Ай бұрын
Excellent video, thanks so much! Given that keeping speed up is the key my only word of caution is all is well on a known trail. But if exploring unknown areas coming over a hill and encountering a large ditch or boulder at that speed…..do some research beforehand. Safe riding!
@istra70
@istra70 7 ай бұрын
Thanks ,great and clear advice .... adding throttle and not chopping off when scared is the best practice...
@TheRadgeOne
@TheRadgeOne Жыл бұрын
Great video. I recently completed the SandRaiders Rally in Morroco and we had very, very long sections of deep sand and fesh fesh. All the people that overtook me were doing what you recommended!
@ttxela
@ttxela Ай бұрын
New subscriber, just bought an F800GS, looking forward to some trail riding!
@virendradr
@virendradr Жыл бұрын
It's great pleasure to hear you explain beautiful ❤️
@jeremycragg750
@jeremycragg750 Жыл бұрын
Very informative. You teach very well. Thank you.
@MisterPrecision13
@MisterPrecision13 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Cheers from Australia...
@BraaapoholicBob
@BraaapoholicBob Жыл бұрын
Very nice overview. I would add one other thing obviously has nothing to do with a rider, but proper tire pressure makes a big difference for me at least on my adventure bike when it comes to sand.
@SmokinZen
@SmokinZen Ай бұрын
I was getting good at riding on sand it helped that I had a KLX as well as a T7. But I lost my concentration on what should’ve been an easy area to get through and I ended up getting hurt pretty bad. I got back on months later but going on the sand again has been really hard for me to get my confidence back.
@Asdfghjkl1234
@Asdfghjkl1234 Жыл бұрын
Amigo - excellent clear useful video!
@JamesOram-qu3ir
@JamesOram-qu3ir 6 ай бұрын
Great content!! Im interested in the side protectors you are running on the T7 have you got a link to them?
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
Good points, you steer with throttle, not with weight.
@odsttrooper08
@odsttrooper08 Жыл бұрын
Good work as always lads!
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
Stay a gear high in the sand. DRAG the back break to slow. Don't let off.
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
ps. don't touch front brake lol
@NZ2STROKE
@NZ2STROKE Жыл бұрын
yea i find people always try and stay in lower gears and that just digs a hole
@Badlander87X
@Badlander87X Жыл бұрын
This is a very good video for sand riding i use to have this natural habit of slowing down on hard pack before accelerating as soon as im coming into softsand and now im re learning these skills for my trip to africa next year. Also you say 50/50 Tires now I know the Africa twin adventure sport in ireland comes with karoo Street but I prefer the karoo 3 now they are karoo 4 .and I don't do offroad on tires unless they are 80/20 offroad/onroad . So when I buy my African adventure bike next year I'm pulled between the tenere world raid or Africa twin adventure sport 1100
@qcab3074
@qcab3074 Жыл бұрын
Great tips. In my area (Barcelona, Spain) we deal with very different terrain conditions that may change suddenly.
@jayhopkins1337
@jayhopkins1337 7 ай бұрын
Well said, and looks like the stock street tires.? Maybe the big knobbies i have dig in to fast idk
@qcab3074
@qcab3074 5 ай бұрын
Awesome explanation.
@onerider808
@onerider808 Жыл бұрын
This is a great channel. If I lived in SoCal, I’d go to your school. I live in CO, so practice your tips here.
@650thumper
@650thumper Жыл бұрын
Lots of helpful advice. Thank you. My last ride had a lot of sand. I wish I'd seen this before. Now I feel like going and finding sand to practice these tips.
@wallieshere
@wallieshere Жыл бұрын
Yeah me too. I went into 200 meters of sand before giving up after wasting so much energy steering with my arms😅
@lostinlamancha
@lostinlamancha Жыл бұрын
Great video! These are all really sound tips for riding in the sand. If you see Chris Birch's "Say No To Slow" series he offers the same advice. Practicing these skills in southern Arizona before heading off to Death Valley, Mojave, Anzo Borrego and Baja helped me ride my Tiger 900 with much more confidence loaded with camping gear...
@李記好
@李記好 Жыл бұрын
excellent advice
@fabienpics
@fabienpics 6 ай бұрын
Very HELPFUL all your video. Thank you
@MotoNiz
@MotoNiz Жыл бұрын
Great tips. Thought that my confidence was improving, so i thought I would practice more sand today, but ended up over bike, broken clavicle, fixed in OR, back home. First video popped up was yours! I'LL be on the bike next week for another go! Thanks for your continued excellent content
@greatfallskam
@greatfallskam 7 ай бұрын
Life saving tips. I am assuming similar 5 tips for fresh deep graded gravel and dirt? Another excellent video. You really should package some of your best Adventure Motorcycle training into a DVD. Your ADV moto training has helped me more than Motorrad / BMW and other training I have experienced.
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool 7 ай бұрын
Thank You! I’m in the process of launching my ADV Academy. It’s my online training program. It has my entire curriculum of off road training. I’m sure you will enjoy it www.theadvacademy.com
@greatfallskam
@greatfallskam 7 ай бұрын
@@SocalOffroadSchool Awesome !! I assume you can watch it at your own pace; a few video lesson at a time? Thanks. I am in.
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool 7 ай бұрын
@@greatfallskam Yes. Once you set up your account you can watch and rewatch the lessons whenever you want.
@juangarciadeletona8560
@juangarciadeletona8560 Жыл бұрын
Great tips TY!
@discoveror9576
@discoveror9576 6 ай бұрын
S U P E R B ... component elements breakdown. I especially like what you pointed out regarding tall(er) gearing. With all the talk about specialty tires for EACH surface, I notice (with a smile) that most instructors appear on heavy bikes with ~50:50 or 70:30 tires! Maybe that's just 'good' for business? 😋 One topic about which I've seen NO guidance is: when to bail out i.e. when/HOW to get AWAY from a bike going down?
@stevendunbabin1879
@stevendunbabin1879 Жыл бұрын
Great content.
@carlosmurgelcddr.1418
@carlosmurgelcddr.1418 Жыл бұрын
Great video! The hardest part is to do the trainning with my 990. Its is a pig kkk Cheers from Brasil
@BongCajes-BISDAK
@BongCajes-BISDAK Жыл бұрын
thank you for the tips👍
@wallieshere
@wallieshere Жыл бұрын
Thanks heaps for the encouragement. What are the common mistakes we all make?
@easilvas
@easilvas Жыл бұрын
Muchas gracias por tus consejos, espero poder usarlos
@scramjet4610
@scramjet4610 5 ай бұрын
How about a video for a powerful (2 kW or higher) AWD (2 wheel drive) electric bike? With the front-wheel driving too, does it change any of this?
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
I'm kind of on the fence with the putting leg out in corner. Trust, as a MX guy, I want too! But it's probably not safe on a 500lb bike. I still do it.. but maybe I shouldn't. Thoughts?
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool Жыл бұрын
It's tricky. I try to do it as little as possible but find that it helps me turn the bike a little bit easier. Just always making sure that the leg stays forward and doesn't slide back or underneath the bike.
@oosteveo315
@oosteveo315 Жыл бұрын
@@SocalOffroadSchool agreed. I try to keep mine real high when I do.
@Zerotys_ADV
@Zerotys_ADV Жыл бұрын
Great content as usual.
@long_vacation_tour
@long_vacation_tour Жыл бұрын
Amazing content 👍
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool Жыл бұрын
Thank You!
@rodneybutler7939
@rodneybutler7939 8 ай бұрын
THANKS !!!
@sameenakausar1020
@sameenakausar1020 Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot !
@kokkiematematika1931
@kokkiematematika1931 Жыл бұрын
This clarified things much much. Thank you sooo much. Do you have Sedlak certified instructors in South Africa?
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool Жыл бұрын
Thank You! Not yet but I'm looking to do a training event in SA in the coming months (my winter, your summer). I have done trainings in many African countries before but haven't made it to South Africa yet.
@kokkiematematika1931
@kokkiematematika1931 Жыл бұрын
We must find a way of connecting directly. I will be a student and moreover, I can assist with coordinating this side. Especially with riders to enroll. I try to get email contact. 👍👍
@VernonRehel
@VernonRehel 8 ай бұрын
Great tips. Not sure how that works with a bike loaded with gear. I think it's better to have a light weight bike to start with. Not something I want to try with my 500 lb bike. I guess start with less sand and practice a lot.
@RabidWombatz
@RabidWombatz 7 ай бұрын
got a bit of anxiety just watching that fast sand track! what tyre pressure? i have an BMW850 GS. also a KTM450exc.
@ColdWarVeteran-r2j
@ColdWarVeteran-r2j 2 ай бұрын
Its counter intuitive but it works. Stand up always! Grab a handful of throttle, shift your weight back a little and punch it. Let the back tire do what wants to do. Stay on the throttle...Your gonna pucker at first.
@flatgrindrides
@flatgrindrides Жыл бұрын
Working on my sand riding, and I am OK with a 50-50 tire, but can’t seem to make it work with a 90-10. I know the simple answer is to run a tire appropriate to the terrain, but in an unplanned situation where you have basically a street tire in deep sand are there any techniques to help overcome this?
@kokkiematematika1931
@kokkiematematika1931 Жыл бұрын
I struggle much with mud sections. Especially grayish mud sections. I find that sitting, maintaining momentum & paddle walking or dabbling gives best LUCK to get through. Am I correct in thinking that a mud challenge requires a huge dose of luck or is there a true skill?
@pawlack
@pawlack 7 ай бұрын
If only Anakin could see this, so much could be avoided...
@MotoOffroadAdventures
@MotoOffroadAdventures 10 ай бұрын
1 Question for you. I did my first CRAZY sand ride yesterday. Pinkham canyon Joshua Tree. This video helped a lot. My question is - in the deep sand tight corners what is the best practice? I transferred weight to the foot peg and accelerated through the corner to stay up. I found myself having to dubstep to correct a lot. I stayed up, but it was a struggle at times. Is there a better way? It was tough.
@bobt688
@bobt688 Жыл бұрын
Do the same technics apply to lighter Dual sports? I've got a 2020 Yamaha XT250
@SocalOffroadSchool
@SocalOffroadSchool Жыл бұрын
Yes, same techniques apply on the lighter bike. On the 250, leaning back when riding through deep sand will have a bigger impact because the bike is lighter, so riding with your hips a littler further back will be beneficial.
Жыл бұрын
Coming from Trials the only point I don’t agree with is holding/pressing the bike with the legs. I keep them open, let the bike play and steer with foot pressure on the pegs.
@waynejohnstone3685
@waynejohnstone3685 Жыл бұрын
I’m a new rider, half the vids say grip the bike w knees, other half say stay loose. Personally staying loose was much easier for me through rocks and mud, have to try the sand trail near me. Is there a rule about gripping w knees on different terrain? I’m on a wr250 so a bit different.
Жыл бұрын
@@waynejohnstone3685 Not really. The bike will move with obstacles (rocks, sand, mud, steps, whatever) while you are stable. If you try to hold it down with your legs, knees or hands, you will move with the bike and will have to compensate to regain equilibrium and stance. You will be all over the place. If instead, you steer with your feet and stay loose, you will be very stable while the bike leans, jumps, moves downward or upward. Practice leaning the bike in turns while you stay vertical, make figure eights. Then do it in an easy incline with no obstacles, this is harder. Increase the gradient of the slope. You can also practice on obstacles on a straight line, let the bike come up and down while you remain centered and relaxed. Take your time, breathe, enjoy and relax. See how the bike has better traction when you are centered. Push or let your ankles down, this will relax your calves and give you more traction and control. Once you've managed that, concentrate on your eyesight, look ahead, where you want to go. Try it and let us know.
@michaflorczak532
@michaflorczak532 Жыл бұрын
How do a wheely on adv bike ?
@chrisprinsloo2614
@chrisprinsloo2614 Жыл бұрын
In a car, from prolonged sand driving, we would decrease the Tyres pressures. What about a bike???
@apatty06
@apatty06 Ай бұрын
How do you get out of you’re already stuck?
@greenrush4313
@greenrush4313 10 ай бұрын
3rd gear is the best
@saulpena2495
@saulpena2495 6 күн бұрын
Tires , psi?
@JayBe443
@JayBe443 Ай бұрын
To me, alot of these clicked when riding at night.
@kennyb7883
@kennyb7883 14 күн бұрын
I don't think my bike can get nervous... I can get nervous though.😮
@theballminator
@theballminator 9 ай бұрын
Yeaj🎉🎉🎉
@phillippearce9680
@phillippearce9680 Жыл бұрын
👍
@fatpacpac
@fatpacpac Ай бұрын
Tires?
@DailyCTO
@DailyCTO Жыл бұрын
So what you're saying is, go out to Anza Borego or CABDR Section 1, and practice! ha ha
@RoadTraveler
@RoadTraveler 6 ай бұрын
Bump
@RoadTraveler
@RoadTraveler 6 ай бұрын
Algorithm
@whatsupshittafabraans1926
@whatsupshittafabraans1926 11 ай бұрын
Are you mental, steer clear of the sand
@EastboundDwn
@EastboundDwn 2 ай бұрын
Ugh..sand!👎
@kalaharimine
@kalaharimine Жыл бұрын
Impressive Enduro riding, now show us how to do it whilst you're alone, 500km away from anywhere and carrying 100 pounds of baggage.
@The333
@The333 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great demonstration and explanations. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Subscribed.
@sameenakausar1020
@sameenakausar1020 7 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot !
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