Top 5 Annoyingly Sexist Cinematic Tropes

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[@clamshelljuice]

Also when writers think “strong women” need to be completely devoid of emotions. I hate that

[@CC-hw3et]

YES

[@SoftTangerineDreams]

Yes! They are sometimes portrayed as sociopaths

[@johns8065]

yes thats so weird. when they put it like women have to look like men in order to be strong. that in itself is wrong because women themselves can be strong.

[@kosmik8647]

I hate that even with male characters. Because truth to be told, we all have emotions!

[@johns8065]

@@kosmik8647 yes

[@attractivecrayon7579]

People seem to forget that “Strong women” means “well written women” and not “women who punch people”

[@khylaldana2757]

Hi There Yeh. oh the irony. It’s as if that to earn equality between the sexes, the women has to turn into a man. Which is counterproductive.

[@edricawebb1578]

Why can't it be both? The word, "strong," has different meanings-- all of which are typically applied to men's characters. Why is a woman's character restricted to some non-physical meaning of the word?

[@attractivecrayon7579]

edrica webb it very well could mean both. But you see, I’d rather have a women with an interesting personality who goes through struggles and has her own way of coping with these struggles and makes decisions that can be understood and sympathized with, rather than a woman who’s only character trait is to punch things. You feel me? A female character could very well be physically strong. She could be a goddamn body builder for all I care. But if that’s all she’s known for, then what’s the point? If she’s gonna be a body builder, she should be a body builder with a personality. Write women with personality’s. Don’t let one trait define them as a whole.

[@sugariedreams2707]

@@attractivecrayon7579 facts

[@edricawebb1578]

@@attractivecrayon7579 Yes of course. But I was responding to your definition of "strong women" as being "well written," and *not* "women who punch people" -- as if they could not be both.

[@liep_viol]

Female character punches someone successfully? “i hAve ThRee OLdeR BroTHers”

[@52flyingbicycles]

The female character always needs an excuse whereas for men their ability to be kung fu fighting comes from their established backstory (usually some uncritical fondling of the military/police) 😕

[@janecenufer9097]

Race to Witch Mountain?

[@Alchemy818.]

I saw one of these in a comment on another video by Jenna Moreci, but it was an adorable twist. “So how did you learn how to fight?” “I have brothers.” “Oh, so they taught you-“ “No, Kevin likes to wear dresses and Bob loves theater and traditionally nerdy things. There is no way I was gonna let anyone bully them.”

[@snuffythefloof5448]

Lol Dear Dumb Diary

[@ifeo3429]

“My dad wanted a boy. But he got me.”

[@galaxiegoddess]

How about the tom-boy, or nerd girl who isn't girly, and then gets a makeup montage and she puts on a dress and some makeup and now they're "pretty" and the love interest is like :0

[@meganfallon1790]

Or the makeover consists of taking off her glasses and now she’s a wHoLE nEW pErSOn

[@oikawatooru128]

the girl always has to be as hot as the boy and then when you switch the genders around (for example: the nerd girl becomes the nerd boy and the hot popular boy becomes the hot popular girl) the nerd boy doesnt have to do anything like change his appearance or personality to get the hot girl and it isnt framed as something that will be better off for them

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

I normally wear oversized shirts or oversized print t-shirts. "male", and some jeans. And once in a while I would wear a dress to work and suddenly everyone will be giving me compliments on how good I look! Seriously I get a comment from everyone in the office I talk to or meet on the hallway! Like???? I'm the same me I was yesterday in those baggy pants? But only when my wardrobe fits into what you see as womanly and I fit into a standard, only then I look good? And this is only if I wear some cutesy dress, no one tells me I look good in a skirt, combat boots and iron maiden t-shirt, except the guys who also like iron maiden but they like the shirt they don't say "omg you look so good today!" WHY ARE PEOPLE LIKE THIS??

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@Lex The crackhead omnidroid It is really annoying that people are like that. As if they cannot see your beauty unless you are made up in anconventionalway. Not saying I am pretty or handsome or anything, this is just something I observed in School and work, that unless you are dressed up in a certain way mostpeople don't give you positive feedback on your looks. Somehow the C clothes got confused with looking good? or maybe I just don't know what looking good means

[@Kirsten4260]

Very attractive model material woman but she has a ponytail and glasses smh

[@decentgrocerybag4003]

“Hotness Gap” My brother criticised me and mom for watching a romantic comedy because it “appealed to the female fantasy”. My mom pointed out how in almost all romantic comedies, the stereotypically ugly guy gets together with the hottie so easily that she thinks they appeal the Male fantasy more.

[@iwatchyoutube7311]

Hyped Apple Not to mention, there is nothing wrong with enjoying a "female fantasy"!

[@cai3886]

I mean, I don’t really see anything wrong with either if they weren’t so common. It’s called a “fantasy” for a reason and the tropes being so overly used starts to normalize them.

[@rohantumkur7915]

Daydream Ricecake well a little bit. The stereotypical “female fantasy” puts this idea into to women’s minds that men should be head over heels in love with them at all time and never want to do anything but romanticize the woman of the film. I feel this is just as damaging as the stereotypical “male fantasy” which is an insanely hot woman who cooks and cleans and does everything in their life just for the man. Both I feel are extremely superficial and should not be represented as they are in movies.

[@rohantumkur7915]

CrystalCritter The “male fantasy” you’re referring to is not degrading to women. While there are many examples of when it is, the MCU and porn are not examples. In the MCU their are many female super heroes (not to mention the most powerful one in their universe is female) and although they’re insanely attractive, so are the men of the films. So many of the MCU films include men with their shirt off and amazing bodies. And the porn industry is purely sexual and that’s not appealing to any “male fantasy.” You can tell this because 1 out of every 3 porn watchers is a women. The males in porn are just as sexualized as females. Yes there are films that are degrading to women and they should be called out on that, but films degrading to men shouldn’t get a special pass just because they’re the “female fantasy.”

[@decentgrocerybag4003]

Rohan Tumkur My comment wasn’t intended to shame either gender or for their fantasies. My brother in this scenario meant for it to be degrading, yes, but my mothers reply was only to make him reflect on the things he say and think. Male or female fantasy, either way we enjoyed the movie. And I know for sure my brother enjoys a fair square of romantic comedies himself.

[@rebeccamyatt9484]

Can we talk about makeup too??? I watched a movie last night wear a woman had been stranded on a raft in the middle of the ocean with no food or water for 80+ hours, yet she had perfect mascara and eyeliner on...

[@homelesshannah50]

I watched The Eye with Jessica Alba and she ALWAYS wore makeup and I'm like isn't she *blind*?!! WTF

[@renzocasablancalivros2147]

It is called Fiction...many movies dod not show character taking dumps though in real life shitting is commonplace

[@parkwb32]

@@renzocasablancalivros2147 it is fiction but it should at least try to be realistic. it is also common sense that when you are stranded for 80+ hours on an island, you won't have perfect make up on. Same scenes show the woman's clothing all rugged or kinda dirty because logically, she hasn't had a change of clothes and has probably walked through tough terrain but makeup? No, this is fiction... And when they don't show them taking dumps it's because it doesn't add to the plot

[@renzocasablancalivros2147]

@@parkwb32 "...it should"...according to who? Regular filmgoers or just woke/SJW types like yourself?

[@parkwb32]

@@renzocasablancalivros2147 oh hey let's go back to the era when we watched films and they felt incredibly fake so that we don't get called woke sjws by some Internet joes that have absolutely no idea of what they are talking about shall we? Thank you

[@niamhha9014]

Woman: *does any skilled task that is not stereotypically feminine Man: (flabbergasted) Where did you learn how to do that? Woman: I hAvE a BrOtHeR Because she can’t have possibly learned it from another woman or by herself.

[@irrevenant8724]

I'm still waiting for "What, you don't have KZbin?" as a reply to that question...

[@kian7966]

@@irrevenant8724 actually I saw something like that in a show called brooklyn99 a woman was pretending to learn how to change a tire from another woman to get them to change the tire for them but later in the episode changed a tire by learning off youtube but did it to prove or point or something. I haven't watched that episode for a while but it was very funny :D

[@hoppinggnomethe4154]

Usually it should be the woman's father teaching that her to do such tasks that women don't usually do. It's not stereotypical, it's reality. It's everywhere, even in my country. Or, the woman must have learned from some teachers or masters, and those teachers and masters must have learned from the male ones. It's nothing problematic.

[@Andyatl2002]

@@hoppinggnomethe4154, I simply disagree

[@allib4921]

Yes yes and MORE yes. I can tile and grout better than any dude I've seen try to do it. How? (And honestly WHY? It sucks lol) MY MOM TAUGHT ME.

[@laughingvoids]

No one: Absolutely no one: Hollywood: *If she fat, she can't act*

[@chester9584]

lava lamp yeah true. And whenever she is fat she NEEDS to talk about her weight and not function like a regular human

[@iodine1169]

You can control your weight, at least. There's way more unchangeable and superficial factors that Hollywood judges actors by.

[@nat-it3sq]

@@iodine1169 some people cant actually...

[@WhutADrag]

@@iodine1169 Yeah, tell that to my mom who practically starved herself for Years ontop of going to the gym daily and Still never lost any weight. The doctors wound up straight-up telling her to stop because nothing was working and she was just hurting her body worse. So no, you can't always control your weight. Some people's metabolisms are literally too slow to let them lose weight.

[@EsotErikka]

@@WhutADrag That's true, but most people that have weight like that are lazy and make no effort to better themselves.

[@Dooms-Daisy]

I hate how in horror movies the girl who cries the most always survives, but the badass ethnic best friend dies first.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

dooms daisy ) "Vasquez always dies" - TvTropes, tho weirdly Aliens actually downplayed the trope then other examples.

[@amyz1502]

Really? I've often felt the annoying hysterical one gets ~slain~ pretty fast. Or the 'slutty' onw

[@avab4502]

That literally never happens

[@pcverma3631]

@@avab4502 That did happen in the last movie I watched, M Night Shyamalan' s Split.

[@Saladfork1929]

Paranormal activity, final destination, shit i ran out

[@DoctorUltraviolence]

Let's not forget the trope "Strong female character = badass girl who is superior all other characters in some skill, is emotionally unavailable, doesn't have a funny bone in her body and is also really attractive. She struggles to get respect from the male lead, who is an arsehole of a bloke and mostly wants to bang or make fun of her, until some breaking point when he changes." This shit wouldn't wind me up if it wasn't so bloody common.

[@journey95far49]

sadly this dumb feminist video won't mention this since those characters are considered to be great "feminist" characters

[@theexistentialnihilist2070]

With a few exceptions, this is basically Captain Marvel.

[@bandamani]

@@journey95far49 um did you listen to number 3?

[@maimunamay6198]

@@journey95far49 I felt like you didn't even watch the video at all

[@ana-un7lt]

Black Widow in Iron Man 2 or 3, can't remember :/

[@Azire]

Okay I definitely have a type : socially aware and intelligent men who are secure in their masculinity and do not engage in toxic behaviour. That's my kink. Hope they become more and more frequent.

[@zeusmasterson4117]

Blue Seriously! It is SO hot.

[@52flyingbicycles]

And if they do behave badly (nobody’s perfect) the movie addresses their behavior maturely instead of saying “boys will be boys” or passing it off as “oooo troubled protagonist” then we never see it again.

[@islagreenburg1145]

asking for consent is a MAJOR turn-on

[@islagreenburg1145]

@afootineachworld your comment has nothing to do with mine, but it can work both ways! though I think more girls would like that idea more than guys, since they'd be more likely to have an issue with consent

[@islagreenburg1145]

​@afootineachworld maybe not an issue, but more of a struggle? Girls are more likely to be asking for consent, but then not receiving enough afterwards, whereas guys don't really struggle as much, but some still do.

[@Fiona_Co]

Another one that really ~grinds my gears~ is the whole "she's totally badass, and no one can tell her what to do but then the guy shows up and she's so in love with him that everything she does becomes about him and he's her entire reason for existence" that one or... "she spends the entire movie telling him no, only for the resolution of the movie to be her giving in and saying yes..." framed as a happy ending of course

[@homelesshannah50]

That's because many WHITE FEMALE FEMINIST are like that in real life! It's all I am woman until the man shows up then it's "damsel in distress" or stand by your man at all costs. Case in point Hillary Clinton

[@MrAnthonyIII]

It's the other way around, too. How many badass male characters don't end up in love with a woman, risking his life for her, prioritizing her over everything else, etc.? The man always falls in love with a woman

[@magipup7698]

@@MrAnthonyIII yeah, but it's not like he spends the whole time DENYING HER, often in movies like that it's clear that he's at least interested in a casual relationship. With women they're straight up saying NO.

[@YourCreativeDreamer]

Aka the plot of Annie Get Your Gun

[@Ariel_emerald]

Alita battle angel is a really fun movie but definitely falls into this category lmao

[@danigolightly799]

As a fat woman, thank you for addressing the "fat woman as a spectacle" trope. God forbid we're depicted as normal multi-faceted human beings. Just watching promos for Melissa Mccarthy movies makes me want to hurl. It happens with men too, though. Fat people in general are dehumanized in film. We're either the joke, the villain, or someone to pity.

[@SunnyGirl310796]

If someone puts you down and dehumanizes you, the answer is not to change the victim but to change the attacker

[@andrewsmith74]

A similar thing often happens with fat male characters. Melissa chooses to make a successful career out of such roles. If she didn't do that brand of humour as the crude, obnoxious fat woman, she wouldn't have a career. She could never be a leading lady, even if she lost a load of weight.

[@BabyGianca]

Andrew Smith yeah I would kind of elaborate by saying that the “fat man” trope is equally as prevalent in cinema. Actors like Jonah Hill (who to give credit where credit is due has diversified in later years) capitalized on being that “fat friend” with the perverted taste and just being a very crude human i.e. Superbad. Not to say that the trope is invalid and arguably destructive in what it means to people who have issues with their weight and invalid representation, but i would argue that it’s not really a sexist trope so much as just an overall negative trope both sides deal w/.

[@andrewsmith74]

Indeed - the fat, loud, crude, coarse person is a stock character. It's not sexist - if anything, it's 'shapeist'/'sizeist'/'weightist'. (S)he's often the wacky, fun person who enables his/her friends to have a great time. (S)he is usually either ridiculed or is an extrovert who doesn't care what people think of him/her.

[@cyb11114]

Cause they can't make fun of any race or anything else now they now can only make fun of fat people and fat girls the most it's fucked up

[@JesseDanLee]

If anyone's looking for an example of the hotness gap, watch any Adam Sandler movie.

[@Roberta_Trevino]

Man child like that doesn't deserve Salma Hayek

[@johanmattinson9688]

Jessi L what’s funny is in grown ups 2 Adam Sandlers character even admits its really weird how he’s dating Selma Hayek

[@MJW238]

Jessi L How are you judging ‘hotness’? Does he not meet your conventional social standards of ‘hot’? Next you’ll be complaining about plus sized models appearing in Sports Illustrted.

[@Roberta_Trevino]

@@MJW238 Physique (as in fitness and muscles), eye color (optional), personality (as in, not acting like a man child), Chiseled everything (not literally eveything, but if a guy has chiseled anything, it's good) And I guess some other stuff but that's the basis of it. And Adam sandler is none of that

[@pcverma3631]

@@MJW238 she was referring to the general stereotypical male parameters of hotness and I agree Adam Sandler is far from that. Doesn't necessarily mean that you can't personally find him attractive at all.

[@sarahroddey2937]

I always appreciate when men step up and say this stuff because no one can complain that they’re a “screeching, whiny feminist”, so thank you.

[@RemixedVoice]

There are lots of comments on this video of men calling him a feminazi faggot beta cuck and so on. Men feminists are ridiculed just as much as women feminists by idiots lol.

[@francisthompson3772]

@@RemixedVoice The like/dislike ratio says otherwise.

[@Ninjaananas]

@@francisthompson3772 The anti-feminists are still only a loud minority. The majority is still egalitarian.

[@christopherbrown2706]

@@Ninjaananas egalitarian- not feminist.

[@steamboatwill3.367]

Christopher Brown ) feminism is about EQUALITY, egalitarian is also EQUALITY.

[@xava13x]

One thing I personally hate is how it seems like a lot of times when there's a female character they think she can either just be girly, or just be a badass. Which is already pretty bad, but then when they try to make her a "badass" it's usually just her being super annoyingly sarcastic all the time and acting like everyone else is useless. I don't know, it just bothers me how when there's only one girl character she has to be like sarcastic or even rude in order to be taken seriously.

[@oof-wi7hp]

its their inability to write women well proposed solution: hire female writers and directors

[@albinanderssonwallen3236]

@@oof-wi7hp many of these stick to female writers to yk. Fpr example the New charlies angels movie

[@ed9358]

its ok you can say zombieland

[@rebeccamartinez5886]

Honestly I like How to Train Your Dragon, but I feel like Astrid definitely fits into this category. She either ignores Hiccup or gets mad at him, then gets jealous when he actually DOES become good at handling dragons, then does a complete 180° when she finds out about Toothless. She was never shown to be interested in him before, but suddenly he has a dragon and now she likes him?

[@TedEhioghae]

Then, what do you want "badass" to mean?

[@DanaMarie54]

Mind blown with the 'punishment' trope. The idea that there is sometimes almost a sexual tension created when a woman is portrayed as though she is in pain/danger is some really sick food for thought.

[@jackofsometrades5577]

It's also pretty sick how they portrayed the men not fighting back like they seem physically capable of... Or it's just a horror movie INTENDED to UNNERVE people... Gah much double, such standard.

[@LilyShimizu]

Rodrigo Partida okay but consider the possibility that showing such gruesome treatment of women can have a backfire effect. Seeing it too many times can desensitize viewers and warp their reactions to graphic and detailed violence towards women. Sure it's awful that men are usually killed in greater numbers and far more swiftly, but this is not an example of misandry. I wouldn't like seeing men treated the same way as women in violence scenes either.

[@iSaraSeantae]

Lily Shimizu Also, the deaths and other horrible things in horror movies are unquestionably being portrayed as entertainment. A horror fan watches as a fan of horror. The worse it is, the more entertaining...really, I do think the pendulum swings toward fetishising the punishment of women on this one, not toward disregarding the suffering of men.

[@PrincessNinja007]

I assumed it was a protection thing- like how children in peril are more jarring, the men are culturally expected to die, and biologically driven to protect children, which then extends to women who could potentially be carrying one.

[@KristofskiKabuki]

Rodrigo Partida I actually think it's in part about giving these masculine men a "noble death", if they are given the opportunity to fight back and die anyway then they are emasculated in their final moments, but if they are caught unawares and don't have the opportunity to retaliate then their manhood remains intact after death

[@SilverwingStudios]

I think you're forgetting the Smurfette Principle. One female in an otherwise large male cast? You know, films tendency to treat us like token minority cast members when we're really half the human population? And that one girl on the main cast typically has what we like to call "Personality Female Syndrome", meaning her personality is nothing more than a mix of cliche stereotyped female behaviours?

[@imwithdavid]

WAAAAHHHH

[@bizarrepanic2701]

I think the problem is that there is such a thing as tokenism in media... period. It's something that exists in the world today, but shouldn't.

[@cottoncandy4280]

It's a children's show. Smurfette is there so little girls can relate to her. You are reading too much into it.

[@tomhuijben1073]

Kanapka Love -- Childrens shows can still have ideals/ideas ingrained in them and ingrain that idea in children too. Also, this principle applies to other shows and movies but lends its name from the most obvious and well-known one: the Smurfs.

[@LilyShimizu]

Kanapka Love okay but ask yourself why girls only need one female character in order to relate while boys get a plethora of different characters? Just as is true for boys, girls are not all the same and we won't all relate to a single female character who's usually just the embodiment of feminine stereotypes.

[@jovanaavramovic2485]

its nice to see a man not screeching about how "fEmInIsM iS rUiNiNg SoCiEtY" and actually sees women as people, not as sex toys

[@larsswig912]

Third wave feminism is ruining society. What we need rn is actual feminism that cares about everything, not trivial shіt like a man spreading his legs a little bit when he sits down so that his balls won't be squashed painfully.

[@jovanaavramovic2485]

@@larsswig912 ok? no one is talking about that though

[@larsswig912]

@@jovanaavramovic2485 that doesn't mean I can't talk about it.

[@alexs0s]

Lars's Wig it’s literally so weird that you took a positive comment complimenting the video and creator and turned it into “today’s feminism is ruining society”.... you can talk about it but just write your own comment instead of using someone’s positivity as a springboard for ur complaints lmao

[@larsswig912]

@@alexs0s fair enough. I wrote that down because op was mocking the "feminism is ruining society" statement.

[@pearlywearly271]

one that irks me the most occurs in almost every action movie. i noticed it in pirates of the caribbean when almost every male pirate was ugly, rough-looking and shabby. the two main female pirates were conventionally gorgeous and had flawless makeup. it was infuriatingly unrealistic and kind of ruined the cool shabbiness of the movies, because, as a woman, i couldn’t insert myself into a similar narrative and enjoy it. they were also incredibly young, had amazing bodies and were not funny unlike every other male character. give me ugly, shabby and funny women pirates too!

[@sunnytimez1177]

yeah! thats like the whole point of pirates right? to be charming rascals and riff raff! i toats agree with that

[@therockingvolbeat3630]

The two male leads, Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom are both sex appeal too tho, so it's not just a problem with female actors

[@therockingvolbeat3630]

Also wasn't there a voodoo woman that wasn't stereotypically attractive?

[@waychelb9439]

@@therockingvolbeat3630 the voodoo woman was a witch, though. Witches are allowed to be ugly in movies

[@waychelb9439]

@@therockingvolbeat3630 the voodoo woman was a witch, though. Witches are allowed to be ugly in movies

[@tree3545]

Yall his mother raised a MAN 😩😩👌👌

[@kittyem63]

Sarah Khan What about his father?

[@kittyem63]

nihilinaut Ew. You’re toxic. Bye.

[@sarahbergmann1162]

His parents probably raised him together unless one of them was gone tho, right?

[@tree3545]

Sarah Bergmann damn yall always got sum to complain about.

[@sarahbergmann1162]

Sarah Khan sorry

[@parislondon163]

SOMEONE DRINKS HIS RESPECTING WOMEN JUICE AND IM SUBSCRIBED

[@LeWildSister]

Respecting WHAMEN** juice

[@terrencedayton2788]

@Dani riddle Did you have to drink your "respect men juice", or was respect for men some how inherent in your DNA because you're female and inherently good? I sadly suspect that you have no idea what respect truly means. And that's respect towards men *or* women.

[@ashley-jv5bp]

Terrence Dayton chill its a joke

[@terrencedayton2788]

@@ashley-jv5bp Is it though? Because I would laugh if it really was. And maybe we could even joke about women drinking their respecting men juice as well (even add a double entendre or two). But I gather that would change the mood of the conversation and be no joking matter for most females here.

[@ashley-jv5bp]

Terrence Dayton something tells me you have a very dry sense of humor, so I doubt you’d laugh. Obviously you’ve never been on social media if you don’t know about the “respecting women” meme. Finally, women consider respect as treating them like a human being, whereas many (not all, but enough) men consider respect as to be regarded as a authority figure. So don’t start debates in a KZbin comment section because you can’t take a joke :)

[@sc-wq2tu]

and the saddest thing is how good and well-written female characters are commonly hated (especially amongst men) and never forgiven for any mistake they might make

[@blahkabelison2234]

**cough cough** sansa stark **cough cough**

[@sem4039]

*cough cough* captain marvel *cough cough*

[@itsme7336]

sc I wonder if that happens with Judy Hopps

[@Maniachook4099]

Blahkabelison Sansa was really poorly written in the last season she literally says to the hound in episode 4 that being raped and tortured made her stronger and more powerful as if it was a good thing

[@SE_Lin]

@@blahkabelison2234 *cough cough* She hid battle plans from Jon and let thousands of men die brutally including her own brother just so she could have her yaas queen I saved the day it was ME moment which wasn't even hers it was Littlefinger who really saved the day *cough cough* she's a badly written character *cough cough* D&D are hacks *cough*

[@magpie7938]

This guy is so attractive. Like, being a feminist and caring about how women are portrayed and whatnot is hot.

[@hopedean6424]

And like genuinely caring, not a White Knight Nice Guy kinda creep

[@hopedean6424]

@Maleficent Yeah and now there's even a reddit for Nice Guys because that many people have those experiences aha

[@sugariedreams2707]

@@hopedean6424 There's also nice girls too, it's debatable which is worse but imo i think the nice guys are desperate and the nice girls are entitled.

[@hopedean6424]

@@sugariedreams2707 Yeah ik. In my opinion, Nice Guys are generally worse as they physically threaten more often than Nice Girls do and I think can do more harm in that sense? I guess it doesn't really matter which is worse - both aren't great

[@sugariedreams2707]

@@hopedean6424 I didn't know that. Wow. I just looked at Reddit posts of them but wow. And here I was thinking the nice girl was worse lol. But yea, in the end they both need to collect their shit together.

[@CuleChick11]

I once told a boyfriend while discussing rape in media "If a horror for me, is a power fantasy for you, we're going to have a problem." He just stopped and after a full three minutes of awkward silence admitted that he'd never thought if it that way, but that he understood my disgust with certain films/books better from that perspective.

[@ladymaiden2308]

Cule Chick you got this girl. that's awesome. You did that right. Hi Five.

[@SmartAlec1]

tHeN eVeRyOnE cLaPpEd Sorry just being a prick carry on

[@ladymaiden2308]

Smartass... I mean Smart Alec... actually that was pretty funny. LOL. Carry on.

[@SmartAlec1]

Both names are correct

[@ladymaiden2308]

Smart Alec well done.

[@charlottecassidy9770]

The sad thing is is that if this video was made by a woman, it's probable that multiple men would be in the comment section complaining that she's a 'radical feminist' or just being 'moany'. Anyhow, great to see a man showing the world that misogyny clearly isn't just a 'woman's problem'!! Also come for the comment but stay for the incel sausage fest in the comments :))))

[@tetsuoatehimbread1234]

Americans don't suffer from misogyny. You want to see REAL sexism? Look at Muslim women having acid thrown on their faces.

[@markant9534]

This man`s a radical feminist the fact that what he`s saying is true doesn`t matter, nope not at all, there.

[@YourMajesty143]

@@tetsuoatehimbread1234 - So what you're saying is "As long as somewhere out there in the world, someone suffers *more* than you, it invalidates your suffering". Basically, we don't have a homelessness problem, bc there are refugees living in tents without access to shelters. We don't have a school shooting problem, bc there are children being mustard gassed in wars. We don't have a corrupt establishment, bc North Korea. This argument is so cheap and stupid. Of course, we have a sexism problem. We objectify woman and treat them as things to be manipulated, abused, and use for our entertainment. As a former Muslim (now Atheist) who has lived as a war civilian during the Second Intifada, and has been shot at by soldiers and tasted tear gas on a continual basis, I do not deny that the suffering in the Middle East is worse. I just don't deny that this means that suffering here doesn't also exist. As someone who has been sexually assaulted both here AND in the Middle East, I do not deny that the sexism over in the Middle East sucks. But I'm not so naive or indignant to undermine the suffering of women here in America, just bc it happens to be to a lesser degree.

[@meliflores2350]

@@YourMajesty143 I agree with you. Plenty of people get discriminated and hurt, I am not denying that it is not as bad here as it is in other places but that does not mean that the problem doesn't exist

[@josefineslot7937]

@@tetsuoatehimbread1234 That happens to everyone. In London it's actually a really big problem

[@amyluke8892]

When he got actually upset by the end. We stan a man who can show emotion. You go dude!

[@caseycantrell3836]

Concerning women being punished in horror scenes: it seems to me less of "punishing women for having vaginas" and more "refusing to show a man be truly scared at any cost". Or maybe it's both.

[@HAL-vm3wn]

It's a psychological trick. Audiences simply have a bigger reaction when a woman suffers than if it were a man

[@BCS-IIITK]

Yes I agree, But I will say that Movies are sexist towards women and men BOTH. Many movies also depicts "women beating men" as cute and funny and Jutified. You can easily see Tons of such examples in many movies.Though It is my personal experience so It many be different from yours. But yes harrasement against women is a much bigger problem that I agree.

[@natalieroy4849]

Don't forget the female character whose only role is to support and prop up the male character. She's his constant cheerleader, seemingly without any issues of her own or an actual life.

[@bakago4746]

Girl next door

[@tatumchewning7205]

seriously though, just because there's a strong female role doesn't mean the movie is super feminist and forward thinking and you should praise them

[@silverchords1277]

I fully agree; we shouldn't even feel the need to do so. But, since there are so very few of them, I think it's good to give positive reinforcement to those finally doing things right! :)

[@kyle857]

So what does make a "feminist movie" then?

[@aprilbennett4161]

@@kyle857 When the people behind the screen are intentionally and explicitly inserting Feminism, that's when a movie is Feminist. Feminism isn't "equality and all that it encompasses," or anything else along those lines. It is a political movement. Feminists and Feminist products must express blatant political advocacy, because Feminism does NOT get to monopolize the concept of equality and/or strong female leads.

[@kdog3334]

Silver Chords I hope when you say “strong female character” you mean physically strong. As in we don’t need physically strong women in movies. But strong female characters as in well rounded and well written character MUST be written. It’s a failure of the entire story if it’s characters are lackluster. So many movies are made with women only to be eye candy or the prize to be won at the end, with no characterization beyond hotness. This is even true if a female is one of the main characters, which is a huge disservice

[@MrBitz-om9vo]

God i hate the "strong female character" who's only there to fill in the female role. The "hey guys I can do it too" girl is so very annoying, just give her an actual personality outside of she's a badass. ( I'm talking to you Marvel)

[@annf1801]

I don’t know if it’s a sexist trope per se, but what really annoys me in movies is when both the male and female lead get into some kind of tussle with the bad guy or something, and the man walks out practically beaten to a pulp, but the woman barely has a mark on her. Like the dude will have black eyes, a split lip, bruises, deep cuts, whatever. And the woman might have a couple little scratches but is relatively unscathed because wE cAnT gO lOsInG oUr SeX aPpEaL!!!!!¡¡¡¡!!!! #letwomengetbeatuptoo2k19

[@justadolphin8932]

YES

[@sarahturner4148]

Absolutely. It bugged me in stranger things 3 (SPOILER ALERT) When Steve gets beat to a pulp by the Russians, they only hit Robin ONCE. Robin and Steve are friends and EQUALS. Really, Stranger Things? I love you but come on.

[@fabtrash]

the reason for it is because : women are pretty and they are ALWAYS pretty. If they aren't then they will become and if they don't then they are the bad guys. It's an old trope that we still have and it's one of the reason why,in video games,women wear sexy armors.

[@spicypeach8828]

And that's exactly why, among other reason, I really didn't like Fargo's last season. Loved the two first seasons but they clearly failed with the last one putting a beautiful actress and not wanting to make her look bad. There is a gap between her and the partner, both age and appeal, and at some point she gets beat up really bad. The focus of the camera is not on her while she's being beaten up but we hear noises and it seems really bad, she can't even walk after. Next episode? She barely had bruises on her body, same perfect face..

[@majeedmamah7457]

Isn't women getting beat up the number 5 complaint? Makeup your minds!

[@lawriem7747]

“Treating women as spectacles” I thought he meant glasses for a second😭

[@merel4518]

huh what else does he mean?

[@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous]

Why, hast thou never read The Society of the Spectacle?

[@megand1609]

also what really makes me uncomfortable is when sexual assault is seen as "funny". a good example is the movie spy with melissa mccarthy. there's a character that continuously touches and talks about having sex with melissa's character, and it's considered comedy despite the character clearly not being interested in him and pushing him away multiple times. like it's just...gross? and not funny? besides that, i do think the movie is alright, but whenever those scenes happen i feel super uncomfortable and just want to turn it off.

[@clary3020]

Movies like Revenge Of The Nerds do that very thing and it is so harmful! I've already had to explain to male friends of mine why it's not okay to stare at a girl all morning or continue pursuit of a relationship after the girl declined

[@ithildins]

It's been a while since I watched that movie, but i didn't see too much of statham's character antagonising mccarthy's - at least not sexually; i just thought it was because he was trying to take over the mission and was getting in her way, that's the reason she kept pushing him away and telling him off - i think those two characters did end up sleeping together at the end credits, though

[@Luster21]

Didn’t she sleep with Statham at the end of that movie.

[@bebecranney8740]

ithildins I think she was talking about Serafinowiz's character not Statham's

[@ithildins]

@@bebecranney8740 he had like 5 minutes of screentime and i thought he was some sort of "man of mystery" - like when he was talking about the MI6 thing and invited her for dinner, she accepted, but with the exaggerated public flair of his Italian disguise, she was put off by that - so it was more about the refinement, than being repulsed by him.

[@SharkPalace]

I've always hated this in romantic movies,like the girls are all sexy and everything and the guys are just meh !

[@soda1850]

I think they often make both the guy and girl sexy in romantic movies, even if the guy is supposed to be somewhat of a loser. It sets up for too high expectations in real life. Another thing is they often make the good girl in movies/tv shows fall for a bad guy and then she magically changes him with her love - something that doesn't work in real life and so many women try and end up abused and disappointed. Very few realistic romantic movies out there.

[@byMidnyt]

@soda Most of the time, both the man and the woman in romantic movies are horrible people. At least the overly sexualized women in the comic book movie gets to kick some ass.

[@logicn.reasoning9744]

Every Adam Sandler movie.

[@kyle857]

@@logicn.reasoning9744 He is a hack in general.

[@parker25489]

Because women are EXPECTED to be sexy or we’re not worth anything

[@izunahosaki6133]

that's one of the reasons i really liked The Umbrella Academy. I really liked the couple of Hazel and Agnes. it's not potrayed for laughs, it's not potrayed as weird or kinky, even though Agnes is older then Hazel. it's just... a love relationship between two people that are tired of their daily life and want more of it. loved it

[@hciapetus1251]

Late reply... If I remember correctly, the showrunner fought hard for that. There were a lot of people telling him couldn’t do it cause of the age gap, but he stuck to his guns. I think even the Netflix suits were fine with it.

[@awesomegaymer5786]

That's also the reason I thought the biggest flaw in the show was how Cha Cha turned into a psychopathic incel because her co-worker who she didn't even seem to like got a girlfriend and started screaming about how Agnes is an ugly whore, and then try to shoot him, and she didn't even see them kissing just hugging

[@soprecious5864]

bekah saxon maybe she wasnt mad about the fact he got a girlfriend maybe she was upset he was leaving her

[@vilwarin5635]

However (spoiler alert) they promptly killed her in the second season, and Hazel too. Shame, I liked them and I hoped to see more.

[@elenaruth47]

Very much agree. “Strong female character” doesn’t mean women who can fight but woman who’s well written. Some people don’t get that

[@eeva6081]

When you mentioned the Hills have eyes rape scene I immediately thought of how Laura Mulvey talked about the male gaze in cinema. Spectators always see the movie through male eyes. And this is what the men behind the movie thought we wanted to see

[@magipup7698]

As a lesbian I can say that it gets very infuriating at times and makes everything 100% uncomfy to see a movie through a male lens then a straight af sex scene comes up. I cannot enjoy a movie unless it's for kids anymore because of stuff like this.

[@cleodavatus1099]

Magenta Dragon as a fellow lesbian I could not agree more

[@KevinFromTheOffice]

It really is disturbing watching shots taken from the perspective of the perpetrator, just disgusting and wrong, not at all necessary for the story telling

[@shadowboxing7029]

I noticed this in Kids, I couldn't even watch all of it it disturbed me to no end.

[@nuberiffic]

Maybe that's the whole point though. The filmmaker could be making a statement about the nature of violence, after all You are the one that chose to watch this violent movie - forcing you to see that violence through of the attacker can make it seem much more real than if were to watch it from a 3rd person perspective. As the dude said, the effect can be quite horrifying; seems like a perfect goal for a horror movie. Also, I imagine that these feeling could lead to a much greater resentment of the attacking character, creating more drive and tension ion the film.

[@ileolai]

''You are the one that chose to watch this violent movie '' ... movies generally don't tell you when there's going to be a graphic rape scene shot from the perspective of the attacker with lingering, quasi-pornographic detail. ''As the dude said, the effect can be quite horrifying; seems like a perfect goal for a horror movie.'' it's the wrong kind of horror. You're not supposed to be sympathizing with the monster committing rape. ''creating more drive and tension ion the film.'' ok, you're missing the point completely then. Because that's exactly the problem - using female characters and violence committed against them as a plot device.

[@nuberiffic]

"movies generally don't tell you when there's going to be a graphic rape scene shot from the perspective of the attacker with lingering, quasi-pornographic detail." True - but no one is going into the hills have eyes 2 thinking it's going to be a thought provoking character study. Those movies are explicitly about shocking violence. I can't think of many things more shocking and violent than watching a rape through the attackers eyes. "You're not supposed to be sympathizing with the monster committing rape." I never said that. In fact, I explicitly said the opposite - that this could lead to a greater hatred of that character. "ok, you're missing the point completely then. Because that's exactly the problem - using female characters and violence committed against them as a plot device." No, that's you missing my point. As I said, it could be a comment on the type of people who watch these movies.

[@autumnramble]

Well, if they really wanted to make it shocking they should make you watch it from the victim perspective. She's there too, not only the attacker and the watcher.

[@sashal1493]

I would just like to congratulate whoever raised this gentleman, they did an OUTSTANDING job.

[@dorothyallspice1862]

Don't forget the father! He had a role to play in all this too!

[@sashal1493]

Josie Teeling oh of course, sorry, I didn’t mean to make assumptions. You are right, I am all for inclusivity, let me just make a quick tweak to my comment....there

[@sashal1493]

Josie Teeling no problem, thank YOU for pointing it out😊

[@kiah9085]

I’m a lesbian but gotta say there is nothing more attractive than a feminist man who treats it like common sense instead of a “EVERYONE LOOK HOW GOOD I AM NOW DATE ME” and you sir deserve the world Edit: Update, I am NOT lesbian I'm aromantic. Point still stands tho

[@froggdoggs8551]

"bUt I wAS NiCe"

[@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous]

Was that a change or a realization?

[@kiah9085]

@@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous ​ realization. All I really knew before was that I didn't like guys and then finally got the chance to date a girl who I cared for a lot and realized I was not in love with her like I suspected which made things very awkward. (It's difficult to tell if you're in love or just feeling friendship when you hadn't had either up to that point lmao)

[@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous]

Thanks for sharing in this safest of all spaces. :) How much are you able to enjoy romance plots?

[@kiah9085]

@@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous It depends on how it's written. IDK if this will make any sense but I enjoy plots about people BEING in love and hate ones about people who are in love. Like romcoms where they argue the whole time and theres miscommunication, love triangles, the big romantic gestures of a few kisses and sex but little else, I hate that. People meeting, slowly starting to build a relationship and pine, small gestures of love like getting milk on the way home or notes in lunches, I eat that stuff up, it brings me so much joy. I guess it's cause since I don't know what romantic love feels like I can't lean on those old tropes and shortcuts, but the other kinds I can relate to even if it's in a non romantic way, so seeing people love each other instead of seeing people have a conflict over something I don't care about is a lot more appealing.

[@Lacie_Holly]

I really liked this video. It's nice seeing a guy admit the problems with female roles in cinema. You don't hear it a lot.

[@coldcrashpictures]

Thank you!

[@Lacie_Holly]

+woooudo I wasn't going to reply to this, but your comment has been bothering me since you posted it. Girls start feeling self conscious as young as age nine. There are some instances where even four year olds are caught up in being "pretty" and "ugly." We are given Barbies and Monster High Dolls that have one inch waists and three inch chests and hips. These dolls are also wearing heavy makeup. Everywhere we look, we see photoshopped models and celebrities looking "flawless," not knowing that having no flaws is a flaw in itself. All of this-you guessed it- is a form of "fantasy." Fantasy does not appear out of nowhere, though. It comes from the mind of the movie director, doll designer, model photographer, etc. When we are young, we see these tropes in TV and cinema and are shaped by it. I realize men have issues as well, which is something that should stop, but it is more damaging to girls and women with how prevalent it is in our society. Fantasy is dangerous if not considered properly. For thousands of years, women's bodies and viewpoints were affected by men. Little girls in China had their feet broken and bound, stunting their growth and ability to walk, all so they could appeal to a man. You men do not even realize just how much power you had and currently hold. We make up half this world but you outnumber us in every high dollar and high power position. You are the ones angling the cameras to accentuate the butts of a female character, you are the ones telling models they're too fat, you are the ones who do the casting so these above mentioned cinema tropes can happen. There are women that can be just as bad as men, I know, but we are a part of a brainwashed culture afraid to love our own bodies. We are afraid to consider a life without a boyfriend or husband. We are afraid that everyone around us is judging us each time we step outside. Sexism exists, because it has destroyed the mentality of thousands of women who struggle each day to find one thing they like about themselves. I don't know if I will actually get through to you, but I hope you learned something of value. Have a nice day.

[@coldcrashpictures]

+woooudo I wasn't thanking you, I was thanking Ophelia

[@DiehardJack]

+Ophelia Hall You are absolutely right about how early girls become self-conscious of their body image, and how that image is affected by films, television, and magazines. What constitute a “woman’s beauty” is constructed out of men’s fantasy, which no woman could ever achieve, but such images of fantasy are reinforced through many forms of media that it difficult for women to have a strong love for their bodies in the male-dominated entertainment industry. In such an hostile environment, women have to develop their own self of sense and self-worth through almost impossible set of beauty standards created by and for men. Good work.

[@raquelestelag]

+Ophelia Hall Ignore people with hatred. Just keep being awesome ^_^

[@jmkand]

Someone's probably made this point already, but I feel like the first trope about the hot/young girl with the old/below-average man stems from (and perpetuated) the idea that 1. women need to be attractive to find love 2. men are entitled to women simply because of their gender and their gender's social superiority. Like you said about the "ugly girls" always getting a makeover; they're not worthy of a guy until they're conventionally attractive (but for male characters, the opposite it true.) And if they're a lot older, THAT'S the plot focus because then it's a story about how she "defied all odds." It's sooo annoying. It keeps telling girls that guys don't need to worry about their appearance, but girls do, and that it's unnegotiable.

[@kyle857]

Women are the sexual selectors of our species though. They did a study and men rated 50 percent of woman as above average looking and women rated 20 percent of men as above average looking.

[@Sigart]

I think it's something else than this. With exceptions, it's that women a valued for their looks (and only their looks in some movies) while men are valued for their... Well, not looks. Capabilities, I guess. Which is why you can have a female ugly rocket scientist who won't ever find love, because she's all about work and not about looks and no matter how good she is at sciencing, it won't matter, because that's not what's worth anything in women. Well, the trend is shifting. A bit.

[@Huntersthomphson]

Okay so much of this confused me . 1. No people do that because when you make a movie, at least in today world of ruined cinema, your goal is to make money. When you have an attractive character that brings in more money plan a simple. They aren't going to lose millions of dollars because people like you are insecure about their looks. The only reason I would have problem with them casting attractive actress is if the storyline of the character revolves around their physical appearance like Beauty and the Beast. Besides that people have a right to cast whomever they like. 2.No sane man thinks he is entitled to shit that is a blatant lie. If they did why are men's the ones that ask the girl out why do men usually have to propose, if anything women feel entitled to a men's attention simply for being a women. You are spinning everything into sexist when it simply isn't.

[@XxBlackWarri0rxX]

@yes ikr Exactly that, people mostly seem the "Problem" with the expectation on women´s appearance and body care, while bashing men, but the same happens the other way around, try to go to any school, workplace, or activity and see all the women picking up men older than them, if you are a guy and want to pick a girl your age, you are out of luck, as women will try to search for someone "older, wiser, richer". The only men i´ve seen or heard that where able to bypass this stereotype are those that are straight 9-10 in every way, looks/smarts/charisma/etc.

[@bialynia]

@@XxBlackWarri0rxX The problem is that young people of similar age are often a very bad match. From sex drive to emotional sensitivity to intellectual needs they're very often in entirely different places. Young girls get the easy way out by being able to openly date older guys while young guys are left to be frustrated. But then they get the privilege to 'stay in the market' practically indefinitely and go for women of any age while older chics have it harder and harder every year. Conclusion: everybody would be happier if older women dating young guys were seen as equally normal. It's more common than the movies show but in reality, both parties may be ridiculed. Because men are thought that older women are inferior goods and women are taught the same of men who are not yet set in life.

[@amauryvazquez8073]

The last trope about punishing women I think is particularly interesting as it pertains to horror films. You mentioned that the men in these films die in less gruesome and invasive ways. I think the point of these deaths in horror films is less so to illustrate another victim in the horror film so much as it is about shedding another layer of protection away from the real victims in these films, of which tend to be women and the disabled. When those that are considered the most able bodied and capable of defending themselves, i.e. the men are unceremoniously being picked off one at a time, it’s to raise the stakes and the danger level for those that are still left in the film to deal with the murderer. This type of writing I think depends heavily on 2 presuppositions by the audience, that men are disposable, and that women are vulnerable.

[@vtheory7531]

I agree with this as well, and while the stereotype that all women in film cannot defend themselves as well as men is still kind of sexist, I think that horror films try to draw out scenes with 'vulnerable' victims like women, children and the disabled because the audience does not expect them to fight off the attacker and it gives more horror feels.

[@turtlesama9476]

This video is 6 years old but it’s still relevant

[@Hieronymus-Pseudonymous]

Hollywood be Hollywoodin'.

[@DrNanite]

Totally right. Even a thing in animation where the man is really fat and his wife is a much more active weight . Like the anime Paprika or family guys. Never seen it the other way around. Another version of this i have seen is older women in movies being played by young women with their hair dyed gray, but the men are actually played by.... old men.

[@etta5487]

And the second there is a fat female in the media, everyone is quick to yell "They're promoting obesity!" Because fat men are just fat men, but fat women are promoting an agenda just by existing.

[@ash.613]

Etta this is so true woah nobody ever complains about fat guys

[@etta5487]

@@ash.613 watch any news report too. The men can be old, unattractive, and they still get on TV. But the women always have to be attractive. You never see unattractive women reporting the news.

[@jtoland2333]

@CrystalCritter What we need is for a larger sized actress to play a confident, successful, popular woman who is in a good relationship, and the conflict of the movie has nothing to do with her figure or her looks. You know, like real life.

[@samehoney9569]

Omg... yes Nicole Kidman in aquaman

[@whynot4318]

I never realised about the punishing thing and making women spectacles. It made me sad.

[@diekeark8200]

A "strong woman" isn't the most toxic masculin woman but a well written woman.

[@irrevenant8724]

Annoyingly it's both. It's a really poorly nailed down term.

[@emiliana1767]

The sad thing is, i have never noticed any of these tropes, even as a woman - i just always took them as part of our normal life as and reality. Thats really REALLY sad

[@jordanbrundidgekitchen4393]

This is the first man I have heard talk about feminism and not annoyed the crap out of me. Thanks for the video.

[@bookmilla8616]

If you’re annoyed by equality, you’re a sexist swine. End of story

[@neoir8514]

BookMilla It’s not equality that people are annoyed by (at least OP). It’s the way in which ideas of equality are presented.

[@konway17]

Firebird Don she didn’t assume anything tho, she said is your annoyed by equality then you’re sexist, which is true

[@andrear4445]

@200 subs with no video challenge no, i thought they were agreeing with op? what BookMilla said is technically true too. regardless of wether you find the buzzfeed type of performative feminism annoying or not, if youre annoyed by just equality, you are sexist

[@lee-ci8mj]

We gonna talk about the double standard that women are punished for not being innocent virgins while men are celebrated because of it?

[@sarahsunsmashable]

I don't know which planet you've come from, but virgin males are the regular butt of jibes and jokes from their contemporaries, as it's seen as emasculating.

[@glassgoblin9448]

No, they meant men are rewarded for NOT being virgins.

[@abigmood3389]

Most of the time if a guy has sex he's treated as "manly/ experienced" but the women is treated as a "used tissue, valueless object, discusting, or crumpled up paper." I think a lot of this stems from some beliefs in different religions. (And this is coming from a religious person myself)

[@robbsnow1353]

Uhhh, have you been living under a rock? A women that is sexually active is not seen as a bad thing but as a phase or finding themselves. We're living in a new degenerate era. Were any women can get away with anything. While males have to be careful in what they say or do.

[@GamerGirlLom]

Robb snow ummm no? Men still get away with a lot of shit and women are still treated poorly for their sexuality. Brock turner got off *relatively* Scott free for rape because it might ruin his future, while a girl might wear a low cut top to a bar and get shit or harassed or even worse for it. So don’t give me the “men have it so hard because we have to be more conscious of our actions” bullshit

[@paperfox8794]

It's so nice to hear this critique from a man for a change.

[@batmanlikespizza2541]

Agreed

[@antarchi80]

I think the first one also emphasises that men are viewed as attractive for most of their lives where as women are only seen as pretty under the age of 40 and if there is an older woman, she is either seen as ugly or only for her mind rather than even being potentially attractive which is a concept that is heavily pushed by the media. Also, it also panders to the male gaze as well as the writer’s fantasies as, although it’s changing now, most scripts are written by men and thus want to make their female characters pretty in young in order to fulfill the writer’s desires especially when said writer is single or not conventionally attractive and thus putting their male protagonist, no matter how old or “ugly” they are, with a younger and more desirable partner so that they can feel better about themselves and play out their cravings for pretty girls on screen.

[@leethegaygeek]

You never normally hear this stuff from a guy, it makes me so happy

[@coldcrashpictures]

Thank you!

[@maddie-fz7tk]

Lee QueenOfGeeks look up the video about misogyny and the big bang theory, i can't remember the name of the video but he goes into depth about more things like this

[@leethegaygeek]

Juliette Oh, yeah, I saw that one! It was really good.

[@ameliaheydon]

Lee QueenOfGeeks d

[@maschaorsomething]

woooudo You sound like a religious nutcase rambling about unintelligible nonsense, all while drawing boobs on animals. What exactly are you trying to argue against? In English, please.

[@jliller]

Hollywood turns lots of fat people into sideshow attractions and comic relief, but I agree it's worse with women. Especially bad in recent years with the two actresses you named, which is the #1 reason I am skeptical about the Ghostbusters remake.

[@hopetherespudding]

It especially sucks bc her character on Gilmore girls had insecurities (for completely different reasons than you would expect), was girly, was in a healthy(ish) relationship but her weight was never an issue or something to be laughed at...

[@hopetherespudding]

Also Space Jam was on TV the other day and wow... That and Seinfeld did not give Wayne Knight much more character depth than 'let's laugh at the chubby man'

[@ursulamunoz5861]

As someone who actually went out and saw Ghostbusers when it came out, trust me when I say that the movie makes absolutely zero references towards her weight. And no, she wasn't the nasty, crass lady, either.

[@francescacourtin7870]

I always felt McCarthy was a model of female liberation because she manages to play hugely likable characters using none of the gendered female tactics, ie, she's crass, fat AND adorable.

[@DAEsaster]

Ghostbusters was actually really good for not doing that. She was more the scatterbrained mom of the group. (In the original, they didn't poke fun at Ray's weight either, and that' who they were trying to emulate.)

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

6: Referring to women as "girls" (which they do more often than referring to men as "boys")

[@froggdoggs8551]

Yeah, I never understood why we call it "girl power" and not "woman power" it just seems kind of degrading

[@Gracklef1int]

For an example of one of the best female characters check out Eva Green in Penny Dreadful. They subvert every trope with her. Yes she’s beautiful, but she’s complex, smart, caring, intimidating, dangerous, and most of the time her beauty is covered in...let’s just say she’s a mess. She’s multi-faceted and interesting on a level that few characters, male or female, ever reach.

[@GothCookie]

This is what a good feminist looks like. Equality, not women over men or men over women. E Q U A L I T Y

[@justin.7849]

Can you send links to feminists saying men are below women? Or have to watched to many feminist cringe compilation?

[@somethingfierce8859]

justin. Watch literally any BuzzFeed video related to this subject.

[@InternetMameluq]

@@justin.7849 Can you send links to feminists saying women are below men? Or have to watched too many... I don't know of an equivalent anti-feminist phenomenon to say that you're watching too much of, but assume I could.

[@justin.7849]

@@InternetMameluq you really just wasted your time with this pointless reply.

[@InternetMameluq]

@@justin.7849 I'll thank you not to comment on my pointiness, sir.

[@flower5213]

That's so true! They always pair up the pretty young girl with an ugly dude!

[@readhistory2023]

+Flower That's because women can see beyond skin deep. Yeah... I don't believe it either.

[@readhistory2023]

Generally true. Oddly enough the movie that addressed this issue was panned by critics and the public alike. Shallow Hal. The film makers are just giving the public what it wants. They are after all in the business of making money.

[@mouette79]

+Flower lately there has been more uproar on the old guy paired up with a younger actress (Colin Firth/Emma Stone, I refused to watch it to the end it was just so lame) with Maggie Gyllenhaal's openness about some unfair audition process where she was judged too old and plain to play in a movie where her age and grace/talent would have been just fine and more realistic.

[@evacookie913]

+Flower Like Homer and Marge Simpson. Homer is an ugly fat dumbass, and Marge next to him looks like a model with a college degree

[@TheBrightlightlion]

+evacookie913 I think that's an unfair comparison because those characters are based on how Matt Groening viewed his family. Maybe he thought his mum was too good for his dad.

[@wrenpeach6707]

Related to the hotness gap: when every male character in a movie is average looking with average bodies, but every female character is conventionally attractive with a thin, toned body with curves. So, no skinny girls that don't work out or are flat chested or flat assed, and definitely no girls who are even chubby. Yet every single man has a slight belly and none of them even has a conventionally handsome face. I was browsing recently and saw an ensemble sex comedy that sounded funny but the trailer revealed the cast was like this and I just lost interest. It was just too obvious. If they had just varied it a little I wouldn't question it. Just one woman who wasn't swimsuit model hot and one guy who could pass for a leading man would have been enough. But it looked like they put out a casting call for "Beer drinking goofy male best friend" and "beautiful pilates instructor" and then just filled the cast with all the people who showed up instead of looking for different character types. They could have made everyone average or everyone attractive, or more realistically had a few of each in each group.

[@b.d.j.2818]

I'll use the two examples soy boy here used: Vince Vaughn has dated a number of beautiful women including Jennifer Aniston and Joey Lauren Adams, and Kevin James wife is a gorgeous actress (although she's Filipino so she may have lower standards than your average white woman). So you see, even in real life unattractive men get hot chicks, it's just the way the world works sweetheart.

[@wrenpeach6707]

@@b.d.j.2818 f you read my post, I'm not talking about a relationship. I'm talking about the entire cast of the movie I'm talking about. The entire friend group is schlubby guys and model girls. That's not realistic at all. If they were all average, or all hot, or some hot and some average in each group I would have had no issue with it. You're trying to argue a point I didn't even object to. If you're going to try to be condescending to strangers you might want to work on your reading comprehension or attention span first, sweetheart.

[@b.d.j.2818]

@Moist Gnome You can tell who the insecure women are...they're so threatened by more attractive women.

[@b.d.j.2818]

@Shannon Hurley "for obvious reasons" LOL wow! Your problem is you put too much stock into what society deems "beautiful". Skinny ass broads don't appeal to me, just like fat slobs don't seem to appeal to you. And I don't show my face because of privacy reasons not because I'm ashamed of how I look.

[@b.d.j.2818]

@Moist Gnome Dude, this chick is bonkers. Don't even waste your time.

[@SaraH-jn5db]

These tropes get old but this video never does

[@ilya8132]

I grew up thinking that the man had to be older in the relationship; that he had to die first, too. Also, that he had ‘the right’ to get chubby with age while women had to watch their carbs. I loved this video and your articulation on the topic. You seem rad.

[@terrencedayton2788]

What does him "having to die first", have to do with your other points? Do you somehow think that women are oppressed with that "trope", or even that it doesn't somehow reflect a sad reality?

[@sandycheeks3460]

@@terrencedayton2788 her/his first point was that "man had to be older", and the older you are the closer you are to death 💀 Jk ihdk

[@terrencedayton2788]

@@sandycheeks3460 so, I gather that you're unaware that males have a shorter lifespan than females?

[@sugariedreams2707]

@@terrencedayton2788 It's okay to go on a mass genocide because they'll die someday. This trope makes it as if they're expendable and women's lives somehow dominate theirs. It takes two to have a child, so how about it's more common with both genders?

[@terrencedayton2788]

@@sugariedreams2707 who are you feeling bad for, the men or the women? The way "sexism" is used in this video, and by the political Left in general, is something that oppresses women. I know that there's the old "patriarchy hurts men too" canard. But things that negatively impact males are ALWAYS a lower priority. Or it's portrayed as the fault of men themselves. Here's a thought experiment, can you name ONE thing that has a detrimental effect on men's lives where women are to blame? And if you can, how soon do you think it will be before you get some serious push back on this thread?

[@laurabrooks8824]

Yeow! Your parents raised you right. Freshing viewpoint, great insight

[@terrencedayton2788]

His parents aren't responsible for this, a messed up echo chamber of a culture is. And more likely than not, he was exposed to it in the hollowed halls of supposed academia.

[@ericaheap]

@@terrencedayton2788 I think op means that his parents are responsible for teaching him to call out these injustices in this echo chamber, which is a great thing

[@terrencedayton2788]

@@ericaheap well to mix metaphors, the echo chamber is the left wing bubble that he's surrounded by. And like I said before, he was probably initially exposed to this in a liberal College. A perpetual reeducation camp.

[@ericaheap]

@@terrencedayton2788 oh i thought you meant echo chamber as in Hollywood and all the blatant misogyny that still runs toxic and rampant there. correct me if I'm wrong but do you disagree with the video?

[@terrencedayton2788]

@@ericaheap whoa that first sentence is a lot of word soup. Why would there necessarily be an echo chamber because misogyny supposedly "runs rampant and toxic" in Hollywood? Are you trying to imply that producers and writers TELL each other to be misogynistic, and therefore misogyny abounds? Because that's what an echo chamber means; that people are only hearing and therefore *echoing* similar ideas and perspectives. You echo words not actions. And as to whether I agree or disagree with the video, there's not a simple answer to that. He makes many different points. His number 5 trope: the hotness/age gap, is just plain stupid and ironically sexist itself. The next trope, the female in Jeopardy construct, has more weight to it. But that requires a more nuanced discussion, which he doesn't provide. Yes, the rape scene in the horror movie is disturbing, but there's a whole lot of things that's wrong with the horror genre in general . It's not fair to act as though that particular category of films is representative of all of Hollywood. But to answer your question more definitively, no I don't agree with his overall narrative that Hollywood is annoyingly sexist against women. But to be "annoyed" is inherently subjective isn't it? Am I allowed the right to not be annoyed, the same way you have the right to be annoyed? Or does that make me somehow complicit in maintaining the oppressive structures which annoy you, and therefore renders my opinion worthless and irrelevant?

[@brownriceandchicken95]

The third one is so true! I just saw MIB International, the female (i really forgot her name) was not exactly that trope but she just was so predictable and annoying. Saying shit like "all women are queens" and being the love interest , it was really sexist and annoying.

[@renzocasablancalivros2147]

And the movie flopped with audiences what makes me assume that the Woke culture is most of the time made of not enougt poeple to fill an entire movie theatre (thought hey seem to proliferate-sans sex, obviously-in the internet

[@audreyandremington5265]

When you said "spectacle", my mind went to that all-female superhero scene in Endgame. And pretty much all of Captain Marvel.

[@druidriley3163]

That didn't bother me. I don't even blink when all male superhero line up stands against a bad guy, why would an all female one be different?

[@jaguarette1]

@@druidriley3163 cos all the male heroes were friends, knew each other, were working together towards beating the bad guy. The females just happened to stand next to each other, as they couldn t know each other earlie, as there is usually one girl per movie

[@druidriley3163]

@@jaguarette1 - why do their personal relationships matter in whether they stand next to each other or not? They were fighting Thanos. That's enough. The Guardians of the Galaxy had no idea who Black Panther was. Neither I wager did Dr.Strange.

[@peterm.4355]

@Kiss Kitty Really? She destroyed his spaceship and stopped him from doing another snap.

[@Jazperanza]

I like this guy. Seriously poignant - things we don't notice but have well and truly infiltrated our heads and our societies and the way we think. Well done for being smart enough to see what is hardest to see.

[@LilyShimizu]

Eric Borden movies and society influence one another, it is not a one way street. Society influences media, which creates tropes based on shitty societal patterns, which then further perpetuate and normalize those patterns.

[@LilyShimizu]

Eric Borden *of course he calls him a "mangina"*

[@shadowboxing7029]

Societal indoctrination man, wash yourself clean of it if you can.

[@ccburro1]

Recently I found a 2015 article in which it was indicated that Maggie Gyllenhaal (age 37 at that time) was told that she couldn't get the role as the lover of the male lead (age 55 at that time) because she was viewed as "too old". Since then have read several articles--female actor's (for movies) sell-by date is often 40 years old and, depending on the female actor, even younger. These articles also indicated that 25 and 30 year old female actors are playing roles that were envisioned by the script as 40 or 45. One recent film had Angelina Jolie playing Colin Farrel's mother, yet they are both approximately the same age. This stuff is super important--movies reflect the culture but also GREATLY impact the culture. Lastly, the hypocrisy of this--brilliant but socially-inept geeks or other males who are overweight and/or not considered "traditionally" good looking complaining/bemoaning that the "gorgeous" (super good looking according to Hollywood standards) girls/women won't date them. These males in these movies/tv shows show no interest in women who are brilliant, creative, funny, kind but who are also overweight or "just" average-looking. This is BS hypocrisy.

[@miaferrari958]

have you watched "Last fuckable day"? your comment reminded me of that video and, coincidentally, the second comment in it mentions the Maggie Gyllenhaal thing...

[@nathanybranco]

Seal Defender bitch beauty knows no age and race but if you are ugly don't hope for a miracle

[@baileypares5349]

There is a reason Men of All Ages Want Women in Their Mid-20s, while women generally want men that are the same age or little bit older. Men want a sexual partner to produce offspring with the more attractive a woman is the more likely she is to be wanted by a man but this decreases as they get older with less men being interested in them. Whereas women want resources from a man which is why the majority of women will only stay with a man that makes equal or more resources then her (generally economic resources). Of course this is even more offset with female hyper-gamy.

[@friendlyghosthost1830]

Seal Defender u

[@alicethemad1613]

+Bailey Pares-Wright Holy shit is this serious. I haven’t laughed this hard in fucking ages go back to LDARing Saint Elliot.

[@amandasnider2644]

This is exactly why I don't have the courage to go into acting as a career because I know I would be cast as the funny sarcastic fat friend. Even in highschool, our drama teacher did admit that I was a significantly better actor and especially singer then the other girls but she told me I can't play the lead (aka love interest) because I don't look the part.

[@renzocasablancalivros2147]

Maybe you act only as a a voice actress, then. Unfortunately, movies are a VISUAL medium

[@MrSirMrSirMr]

When writers/directors aren't sure what women do at home when they're alone, and come to the conclusion that it's probably take a shower/have a bath.

[@thenikkihuff]

The hotness gap annoys me, too. Connected to this is the annoyance I feel when people make a big deal about a man losing a lot of weight to play a certain role: "Wow can you believe it??? So brave!!" Never mind that every single woman in Hollywood has to maintain a weight of 90 lbs for their whole life or they have no career. That's one reason why I enjoyed the British show Miranda, simply for the reason that it pairs a big, awkward woman with the hot man of her dreams, and they have real chemistry.

[@dickottel]

I loved Miranda too 🙂

[@lxlxxl6217]

There’s like tons of famous women way over 90 lbs but I get your point. I think making a big deal just because they dropped a few pounds for a role is idiotic, but sometimes you have to admit it’s cool seeing how dedicated they are for a role (for instance, Chris Pratt or Tom Holland doing hard training for the Marvel movies)

[@caximus2492]

yeah your point is sound but christ 90lb is a giant exaggeration. Anyone over 5 ft weighing at 90lb is anorexic.

[@dupaincheng]

i completely understand your point, but body issues among men are equally valid. there are many cases in hollywood where men are pushed to their absolute physical limits while filming roles because if how jacked they have to be. take hugh jackman in wolverine for example. he went through a 36 hour dehydration period to lose his "water weight" so that he would look more ripped in shirtless scenes (bearing in mind you can only survive 3 days without water). other examples include channing tatum and chris evans who were also forced to go to extreme lengths to maintain "the look". once again, i completely understand, respect and agree with your point about women in hollywood having extremely unrealistic goals, but we also can't overlook the fact that many men also have to go to extreme lengths for roles, which go on to be viewed as the ideal body type for men.

[@Quetzalcoatl-Dragon_97]

@@dupaincheng I completely agree

[@swedishgirl95]

1000 points for Gryffindor.

[@KM-nt9nj]

swedishgirl95 idk this guys pretty smart... Ravenclaw?

[@tyrahagland1900]

K M noooo not all smart people are ravenclaws. I feel like he’s more of a huffelpuff, he just seems very genuine and empathetic

[@keona5560]

@@tyrahagland1900 I want to say Slytherin but I can't back it up other than he did what he needed to do film makers' pride be damned.

[@ruddthree8105]

10 billion points for Gryffinpuff*

[@karosonj1]

ruddthree Fuck you, sNaKE, Gryffinpuff wins!!

[@radisk5973]

When a gonky looking comedian is paired with a sexy lady in a movie he produced I consider it a plot hole

[@plantmommy4693]

Tbh I just wanna see a strong female character who actually does have emotions

[@IsaUrameshi]

Korra, Katara, Utena, Tsunade, and Riza Hawkeye.

[@tiffanypersaud3518]

I talked about the girls punishment trope I see in modern cimema with a friend and got called a feminist. Ha! I think the fact that he didn’t deny it validated my observation. It does unsettle me and it is good to know I’m not the only one who sees this.

[@sandycheeks3460]

But feminism mean equality, at least in my country

[@alpacawithouthat987]

TIFFANY PERSAUD I’ve seen a lot more torture of men in death scenes than women. But maybe I’m just not watching the right movies

[@diablotry5447]

Women and men are equal in western countries now apart from discrimination which both genders suffer from. Everyone seems to be forgetting about the eastern countries, the ones that stone people to death, the ones that give women no rights, etc

[@kittycatrina1861]

Diablotry people dont forget those. They know theyre there, but sense we dont live in those countries, we can’t do much about it. And so we focus on our own countries and try to improve them. It doesnt really matter how much worse another country is, we’ll keep that in the back of our minds, but we’ll still focus on our own

[@diablotry5447]

@@kittycatrina1861 Activism in western countries can help make changes

[@elysemcbeath8013]

I don’t know what I expected when I clicked on this video, but it wasn’t this, a few of your points, when you initially said them left me a little confused however as you explained the trope, you articulated your point really well and I really enjoyed this video a lot more than I thought I would, really interesting and insightful and you know your cinema. Thank you.

[@cicerhoe7983]

HE LOOKS LIKE THE SPITTING IMAGE OF MAT PAT WTF

[@sunnytimez1177]

i love that this is your takeaway from this video 😂 you are clearly a man of culture, your right, i didnt even notice that- and so i commend you sir 👏👏👏

[@cathleenmudong2289]

Or the girls who straight up hate all women bc they're "girly" or like men. Not only is that a specific type of person and not a reason to hate ALL women other than yourself, but there is nothing wrong with liking traditionally "girly" things. And there is nothing wrong with exploring your sexuality. Can we stop hating womenn purely because they like things

[@hoggsrod7864]

IKR. Sometimes, when I expressed my personal opinion of being comfortable doing traditional girly things I got labelled as oppressed, trying to please men, spreading toxic feminity, etc. Society tried to evolve by accepting that some girls just doesn't like being forced to do girly stuff and to me that's perfectly fine, let women do whatever they want. But apparently when some women genuinely wants to embrace femininity suddenly they're the antagonist in the "woke" society. And here I thought we're letting girls do whatever they want. Ngl this whole concept of anti-girly just turned itself into the very thing they aimed to destroy

[@conradd1352]

I heard two girls saying they think girls can never be the older one in the relationship... they have to have a guy that's older than them.. It's "gross" if the girl is older. Made me so annoyed, what a sexist comment. Double standards. Subbed! This video makes good points.

[@colafire4629]

to whoever said that i would personally like to punch them in the face as my great friend is older than the guy in the relationship and they are absolutely adorable together.

[@clariskitty7525]

cola fire I think because those two girls are still young, and naive, and haven't seen the world enough. Besides, young girls tend to adore mature men. I mean, I was brought up in a neighborhood where the male are all older, so what seems usual for me is when the man is older. but now that I'm older, younger male and older female are A-Ok. We need to open their minds, not punch them in the face 😀

[@conradd1352]

One was 18, one was 16. Thanks to you both, I am glad not all women think that way (not trying to be sexist, I just have no idea how the majority of women think and feel about things like that xD)

[@clariskitty7525]

He said two girls, so I assumed they were young. Turned out they were young. And to answer your questions, tho, I don't know man. People can say whatever they want, I guess. I mean, who's to decide what is acceptible or not?

[@Gaburierairuze]

That's my sister right there And she ended up marrying a man 3 years younger than her Life is funny

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

It’s funny because in Kdramas there’s a whole trope of young men dating older women😂

[@SlayerNinaFriki]

Korean dramas doesn't count. Most of the actors are immortals with flawless skin that are 10 or 20 years older than they look XD

[@valeriasamantha7599]

But in every other kdrama theirs the rich boy and poor girl (with this one parent or two who work really shitty jobs). Theirs also the asshole boy who slowly likes the girl and grabs her hand and force-kisses her.

[@icecreamcloud3372]

September Studies IKR??? That’s ehy I can’t stand Kdramas. Too stereotypical and too easy to predict what’s to come.

[@FirstnameLastname-es1ko]

September Studies idk, of course that is a prevalent trope throughout all tv and film, however there is the (less common) reverse also. For example in W- Two worlds, the girl randomly grabs the guy and forcefully kisses him, despite him having no idea who she even is at that point. The resulting confusion and chaos of course ensues, similar to how the more common reverse of the roles often plays out. I think it’s a trope that exists on its own, regardless of gender, but appears more commonly with male characters force-kissing the female due to the separate issue of the showcasing of stereotypical roles of a men and women in a relationship, I.e the man being in control or more dominant and the woman being more passive. Both tropes I’ve mentioned, despite my thinking they are separate issues that have become entwined here, can be extremely problematic. Especially when it reinforces the idea you can randomly grab someone and kiss them with no implication of consent whatsoever. Maybe I’m overthinking this, but that’s my thoughts on the matter😂

[@ash.613]

BNMBOYS BPNWMJ that’s why I like dramas like sky castle or weightlifting fairy that don’t follow those dumb stereotypes/basic plots lol

[@sydneygrace3745]

my LEAST favorite trope is during a fight or kidnapping scene and the woman is just 'prettily screaming' and doing nothin to get away!! For crying out loud, women will kick and scream to get away from that bull, no matter how messed up our mascara would get 🙄💪🏽

[@jillianlafave]

what about the whole manic pixie dream girl always saves dull loser find his way in this crazy, unpredictable world

[@sophienicholson8522]

Just watched this video and I’m extremely impressed and happy to see a man talk about sexism and feminism in a way that doesn’t make me want to punch him. Seriously, thank you for this video, it’s a gem and I loved it❤️❤️

[@Em-fz5uh]

I couldn't agree more with this comment. Well said !

[@renzocasablancalivros2147]

Sophei, I hope you do get to punch a few and ...get your ass sued.

[@sunnytimez1177]

Renzocasablanca livros why do you hate woman? 😳

[@meganclum5366]

Thank you for acknowledging that sexism exists. So many men (and women) won't even agree that it's still a problem.

[@meganclum5366]

AJ Baumeister Any sexism in our society currently held towards men (such as the belief that men are inherently violent, should shoulder the financial burdens of their families, or ought to hide their emotions even in the face of abuse), are all a result of patriarchy, which is the system feminists are trying to dismantle.

[@MorseCodeStutters]

AJ Baumeister thank you for calling this out. This video is well done and everything but it's very obvious sexism that isn't all that surprising. What isn't talked about is what you've mentioned

[@Sweetumskitty1789]

AJ Baumeister Shut the fuck up.

[@b0ssihabeacancer45]

@@Sweetumskitty1789 we got the close-minded one here

[@shadow14805]

AJ Baumeister not saying that sexism doesn’t exist for men, but i defiantly wouldn’t say the majority. Have you not seen some of the eastern countries and how women are treated? If your point is about the discrimination and feminists (internet’s definition) on hating men, then I still wouldn’t say the majority. Men have feminists and femcels. Women have incels and MGTOW’s. Discrimination is very equal on both sides. I don’t want to make a solid statement on this, so take this with a grain of salt, but I might even say that women would be discriminated more, or at least be more harshly hated by these people. When seeing the incels and MGTOW’s, then comparing them to the femcels and feminists, they seem much more harsher and aggressive towards women. They praise Ted Bundy, take pleasure in seeing women being raped and killed, openly sharing explicit fantasy’s of a future where women are tortured. I don’t see that nearly as much on the femcels and feminists. I’m not entirely sure, since that’s just from my own research. Sexism at least happens to both genders equally in discrimination. But if we are talking legally, then it would defiantly be women who get it towards them more in certain countries.

[@aidantucker8046]

The song in the background is 'When The Levee Breaks' by Led Zeppelin

[@jillm9628]

It’s nice to see a man talking about this.

[@MaryArts]

Makes me appreaciate the character Ripley in Alien so much more. She just does what she has to do against the alien. Badass without having someone to prove that she is badass.

[@Sweetumskitty1789]

frances r. They're both badasses!

[@rat1837]

that's because ripley wasn't initially written as either male or female, rather just a strong charismatic character

[@poodychulak]

It's funny how Sigourney Weaver was in so many of his examples

[@littlewing3018]

ICON.

[@Reninenos]

I really enjoyed this video. It is honest and unapologetic and that is exactly what is needed.

[@ellaczeiner3974]

I like how in the Captain America movies Bucky is the "damsel in distress". He plays the typical female role of needing to be rescued while a woman who doesn't need to be a violent person with no emotion is his intelligent/capable sidekick. (Peggy and Natasha)

[@feralfernweh6091]

Woah! Someone that makes good points and isn't trying to get in anyone's pants or anything! Nice!

[@danielle9339]

This video was made 5 years ago and still accurate.

[@zeusmasterson4117]

danielle griffin It seems we aren’t making a lot of progress.

[@kosmik8647]

Yup and how sad it is.

[@newbooksmell4163]

I always thought the 'hotness gap' was just too true. Whenever I saw the hot, funny, charming women be married to the funny... guy. In my head I would always think "she could do 20* better". But to be fair, I think I just really wanted to be with the girl so I might not be an objective subject XD

[@blueghost4769]

Maybe you'd be a better partner for the girl lol

[@katwolf897]

To be fair, though, in real life women do chose a partner that makes them laugh and is not necessary "hot". Guys notice hot girls, girls notice funny guys. I'm simplifying, there are more reasons for why people choose their partners, but it is a common trend in real life.

[@niggardkikeinghunter6560]

@@katwolf897 bullshit most of the times the guy is Rich and How conveniently you forgot the ROCK ZACK EFFRON RYAN GOSLING TOM CRUISE ETC on whom you rub your clits AMy schumer gets roles too lol

[@marcelalopez9053]

My problem with the hotness gap is that they never really talk about the girl, they are like a magic pixie dream girl to them, only there to fuck and make their like better, and the worst thing is that the girls are fine with it, like yeah he only likes my apperence and is a loser but hey! He is funny

[@MyFictionalChaos]

@@marcelalopez9053 exactly. It's okay that we break the stereotype of "being out of someones league" and that totally hot girls can have an average dude. But how it's portrayed in cinema is the problem and just glorifies the guy as being the one to win her over and never develops her as a character

[@toonman361]

Your comments are so well considered and thoughtful. I also admire your knowledge of obscure films (as in your collection). Thanks.

[@demgphix]

Your last point about women being more punished/tortured in film, I definitely see it, ive wondered about it for a while. My personal theory has been that, maybe the writers/directors use this as a way to elitist a more emotional response from the audience. I mean, for the most part we do not enjoy seeing anyone tortured, but we do get more defensive over women and children. Its just a theory, but yeah, pretty weird how often this happens in film. Great video man!

[@amanda3581]

I thought it wasn't a serious video, like that kind that makes jokes and doesn't take sexism seriously, calling girls who say anything "feminazis" and shit. Then I saw the comments and watched, and I am really so happy to see that you pay attention to these stuff. After that "gilette" commercial I thought it was a lost cause to point things like that. Thanks for these videos :)

[@wiseausrs]

The fact that you were ready to dismiss it and judge it harshly without even watching it to begin with is a little concerning regarding your character. I am glad you reconsidered.

[@amanda3581]

@@munkey9064 i wasnt talking about the commercial itself - also id like to know what you thought was sexist about it - but a bunch of shitty comments being sexist without guilt.

[@amanda3581]

@@wiseausrs i guess its because there are loads of videos that are jokes and trying hard to offend feminists, you know? although, it was kind of judgmental of my part.

[@Vearru]

AJ Baumeister I don’t see how the Gillette commercial was in the least sexist. As far as I can tell it seemed to just point out real valid issues with how society expects men to act, and things that would probably be better changing. Over the past few months though I’ve been noticing more and more the fragile male ego, so my personal theory is that’s why men see it as sexist.

[@esmenouvelle9439]

The wonderful thing about these guys who use the word 'feminazi' is that they've just announced exactly what they are and that you don't have to listen to another word from them. A real timesaver.

[@user-qn2ey6gk4m]

KZbin: 2014-2018 : No June 2019 : *YES* _-also I've kinda fallen in love with this guy woops-_

[@JMarchel]

KZbin metrics can be so awful to content creators. Also, yeah, he's pretty lovely.

[@rachelkayx]

I think we've ALL fallen in love with him.

[@Liz-ph9xv]

Glad I’m not the only one.

[@Miraihi]

KZbin algorithm in 2015: "Now let's add a pinch of white nationalists and alt-rights" KZbin algorithm in 2016: "Whoops" KZbin algorithm in 2018-2019: "I guess I gotta balance it with at least something" *Lefttube gets a bit of traction*

[@lowfatyogurt3706]

Yes, I love censorship of political disagreements aswell as the rampant mistreatment of content creators, truly fucking wonderful

[@sullengf]

Let's make a movie where a large girl is "ugly" and people tell her they can help her look better but she tells them to go to hell and keeps living her life confidently and eventually becomes a successful engineer 😄

[@b.d.j.2818]

then she dies of diabetes in 5 years.

[@bratzsasyqueen]

I've noticed the punishment one so many times, but no one else has seemed to pick it up!!! this video is so well done. you are awesome.

[@nicoleandbreanna]

I love this video and I love that you are speaking out against sexism. The one thing that makes me sad is that a girl like feminist frequency can't say the same thing without receiving soooooooooo much hate.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

+nicolehi It's one thing to point out sexism that is actually there, but it's another to cherry pick scenes in a game so that it suits your view, and add loads of bullshit over the top. Also, men get offended quite alot for the simple reason that we see alot of sexism against men, but for some reason we should only care about sexism against women. Simply put, feminist frequency is full of shit and they get all the hate they deserve. This guy doesn't get hate because he does his job properly, or at least it isn't blatantly bad.

[@AdorabibleKitteh]

+ivanlagrossemoule No one deserves hate, regardless of whether or not you agree with them.

[@ivanlagrossemoule]

Moemulilly Hate is a feeling that you can very well deserve as consequence of your actions. They also deserve all of the criticism they get. What's going too far is actually expressing that hate in harmful ways.

[@smoraptor]

+nicolehi I think the main reason is because FemFreq, and largely Anita Sarkeesian, use their believes to scam people. They engineer problems in order to get attention or money. As for movies and games, if you don't like what is portrayed, then make something yourself and don't force or expect others to change based on your sensibilities.

[@AdorabibleKitteh]

OK, except that it isn't using beliefs to scam people. Sexism is a legitimate and prevalent issue, especially in gaming. Plus it's hard to get away from it when it's in almost every game. Plus, not a lot of people can make their own games? Feminists aren't trying to shut down things, they're simply critiquing the media that they consume as well.

[@nateds7326]

Women in danger. Oh boy. Off the top of my head theres... -Spiderman trilogy -every friday film -every halloween film -die hard -batman begins -the dark knight -3 out of 4 of the indiana jones movies -speed -the mad max anthology -all the saw movies -texas chainsaw -terrorizer -the shining -psycho And of course,robin hood. Edit: ok this is due for an update because I’ve seen a lot more films now -most of bad times at the el royals -literally all of split -fight club -cape fear -baby driver -v for vendetta -drive -looper -Molly’s game(although its based off a real story) -gone girl(this one gets a pass because I hate Amy dun) -a lot of true detective -seven -heat -silence of the lambs - and sicario

[@Damon242]

Nate DS to be fair, not all of those films are exclusively ‘female in danger’ and more importantly not all of those female characters are useless in their specific scenarios A ‘damsel in distress’ is an issue because the woman needs to be rescued rather than is rescued. And the OG Friday 13th film is a personal vendetta by the mother and is in itself a bit of an exception - but we’re only talking about the original film

[@arielpouwer2873]

Indeed, in most of those movies, mens lives are portrayed as wortless in comparison to a womans life.

[@Rage_Harder_Then_Relax]

@@munkey9064 Actually it does say the tropes against women. You need to learn to listen. I bet you rarely do it because you think you're always correct. Am I right?

[@PancakemonsterFO4]

Nate DS >Spider-Man trilogy Don’t you mean MARY JANE in danger?

[@LlamaCourt]

Loved this! And the ending is very appropriate and brought a smile to my face 🧡 Thank you!

[@azjeffs]

After the shots from The Hills Have Eyes and Texas Chainsaw Massacre played in this video I literally felt sick to my stomach but when you ended it off with First Wives Club I absolutely cannot believe how much my mood did a 180!!! Literally the best way to end a video!