Top 5 Best Electric VTOL Personal Aircraft, Passenger Drones and Flying Cars

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@Wildicon19
@Wildicon19 3 жыл бұрын
These are some amazing designs, the Airbus is so far my favorite design, with Lilium a close second.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment! Yes! Both great picks!
@yongchoi1711
@yongchoi1711 Жыл бұрын
Lilium was my favourite for its speed, design, capacity & range. Close second is the e-hang for the same reasons. The Airbus was pretty, but the flight time of 15mins made it last for utility
@jebise1126
@jebise1126 3 жыл бұрын
weird math here airbus can travel up to 120km/h can fly 15 minutes and in those 15 minutes can travel up to 241km... must be some very advance tech to curve space or something also in 250kg of cargo it can fit 4 persons... skinny people
@skunkbucket9408
@skunkbucket9408 3 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly.
@baldassarealessi1007
@baldassarealessi1007 Жыл бұрын
Thank you video interesting compliment.
@Aaron.A22
@Aaron.A22 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how they do it no matter how futuristic they look, as long as they keep using propellers they will be inefficient and noisy.
@nickdimatteo8604
@nickdimatteo8604 3 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to know what the decibel level is for each.
@trekkeruss
@trekkeruss 3 жыл бұрын
What in the world would they use other than propellers?!
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! Cyclotech may be on to something as it pertains to noise. We shall see!
@BlueEyed888
@BlueEyed888 Жыл бұрын
JOBY has solved that issue….as proven in NASA testing.
@lalmuanpuiijahau7531
@lalmuanpuiijahau7531 Жыл бұрын
@@trekkeruss 😅😅👍👍
@dorecannon2851
@dorecannon2851 3 жыл бұрын
Freedom of movement, the way of the future.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts!
@BorossAngkor
@BorossAngkor 3 жыл бұрын
EHang all the way.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts!
@alexpastrana5401
@alexpastrana5401 2 жыл бұрын
In 50 years int the future, People will see these videos like we see 1920's first helicópters
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha - probably!
@cloudzonedrone8221
@cloudzonedrone8221 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite is the Hexa since it is available for purchase by the individual public. Rich individual public, but public none-the-less.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Haha - agreed! Thanks for your comment!
@canadarm999gbernier
@canadarm999gbernier 3 жыл бұрын
E Hang is by far the most promising vehicules. Already we can fly it in Hong Kong.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. It’s the furthest along.
@Zetler
@Zetler 3 жыл бұрын
E-hang is Chinese. That’s an automatic disadvantage.
@canadarm999gbernier
@canadarm999gbernier 3 жыл бұрын
@@Zetler Please make difference between E Hang and the fu...g Chinese communist party...
@skunkbucket9408
@skunkbucket9408 3 жыл бұрын
In what way is the Lilium a "jet"? Probably in the same way that my Toyota is a turbine car. Wouldn't mind having one, though. Good video.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I agree. It could be a German interpretation.
@Aaron628318
@Aaron628318 2 жыл бұрын
Technically a 'jet' is a narrow region of fast movement (hence jet stream), so pretty much any powered aircraft could probably qualify...
@khursheed.fateh.786
@khursheed.fateh.786 Жыл бұрын
Lilium is good looking and practicle.
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 3 жыл бұрын
All of them can fly but only one clearly stands above them all, Lilium Jet. Its the only craft that A. a true Vtol that doesn't require a runway, B. Does not have dangerously exposed rotors. C. Due to its design has extreme levels of efficiency such as the lowest coefficient of drag 21:1 . It design generates lift both directly and indirectly by way of its 36 ducted fans a that also produces static lift by sucking moving air across the wings airfoil, as well as the fuselage itself. And unlike some of these other vtol concepts, Lilium still has wings in forward flight that generate a large amount of lift, further increasing range and battery life. If Lilium were to loose all power it still can glide safely to the ground, or deploy its parachute. And thats just the surface of its brilliance.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Well said
@xevious2501
@xevious2501 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology spell checked , now well said LOL
@AndriyDykyy
@AndriyDykyy 3 жыл бұрын
Lilium rocks
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, super cool jet!
@ErdemOzgurbuz
@ErdemOzgurbuz 2 жыл бұрын
You should check the “cezeri” it did prove fist prototype
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Will do! Thanks!!
@muhammadbariakhdan2859
@muhammadbariakhdan2859 2 жыл бұрын
Heyy can u share all the vtol aircraft list that you share in the beginning of the video please
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
They’re in the description below the video😉
@bronz12
@bronz12 2 жыл бұрын
Would it handle gusty wind 25/30 mph.?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your question! I'm not sure, but would imagine there's a minimum requirement needed for the government for safety.
2 жыл бұрын
I dont get it how can Airbus fly 241km and a max time of 15 min?? Am I dumb or I'm missing something?
@antonioprado5928
@antonioprado5928 2 жыл бұрын
Lilium is the most interesting one.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! Agreed!
@mostyle70
@mostyle70 3 жыл бұрын
The other Ehang 216 looks awesome but watch out for your legs.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting where they put their propellers in comparison to the others.
@qizhang4077
@qizhang4077 2 жыл бұрын
Ehang is best for 🚒 safe city to high building 🏢 and night sky show and tourist in beautiful area (city, Manton,river)
@mbeliv3763
@mbeliv3763 3 жыл бұрын
EHANG LLIUM AIRBUS
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts!
@martinezmotunewspleasez9680
@martinezmotunewspleasez9680 2 жыл бұрын
Still Wanting my own trouble bubble🤔 or flying type vehicle from oblivion movie.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! Definitely!
@Black_Cryptocurrency
@Black_Cryptocurrency 3 жыл бұрын
if design.. I like from boeing
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@happygilmore5591
@happygilmore5591 3 жыл бұрын
You would think with our technology we could come up with better looking eVTOL’s😞the city Airbus looks the best though but it’s performance specs aren’t very good compared to the others
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed - visually, it's on point!
@aery2053
@aery2053 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology haha i agree that the airbus has the most beautiful design
@martinwinlow
@martinwinlow 2 жыл бұрын
Why, oh why, oh why do so many of these aircraft insist on having their extraordinarily (potentially) dangerous rotors a kneecap-level (or small errant child neck-level)? What is the issue with putting them safely 2m above the ground? Someone?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
It’s an interesting thought!
@garymccann2960
@garymccann2960 3 жыл бұрын
I am not interested in a taxi, but if I can buy one for a reasonable price then I would. These start up companies are really stupid not marketing to individuals. Many people spend 100K plus for a personal aircraft.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. I think we would all like to have access to one (or more). These companies need to have a plan for consistent income to get their prices down per unit and most of the time that means taking big money from companies who will buy them in bulk and guarantee future business. At least that’s my take on it. Thanks for posting!
@Cosmicice1
@Cosmicice1 2 жыл бұрын
I like the Skyairbus for tourism, however if you take two engines off of it and make it so they pivot for forward reverse, and make a two seater Hellicopter you will sell the hell out of it. At 6:14 Prototype "Eagle" created lift but it's designe was flawed because your housing restricted it. PS my name is Luis not something racist.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts. They are appreciated!
@vazwan
@vazwan 3 жыл бұрын
Ehan
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts!
@tfhhjh3372
@tfhhjh3372 3 жыл бұрын
No no ser shet
@Harry-wo6vn
@Harry-wo6vn 3 жыл бұрын
great idea, crap we will never be allowed to own them.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully! The new Doroni H1 is coming in a few years (just made a video on them) and they want to focus on US purchasing them!
@FerraPizza
@FerraPizza 2 жыл бұрын
15 minutes flight time.... so on a flight from London to Australia we would only need to recharge it 96 times ... lol
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! Hahaha - not made for long flights....yet!
@ndlben7129
@ndlben7129 3 жыл бұрын
Hexa Boeing Ehang216
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts!
@malefitz6886
@malefitz6886 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot Volocopter, which should be in the Top 5.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted my top 5 to not only be the best, but also be closest to production. I agree, the Volocoptor is a solid choice, but was far down the list of being close to production. Thanks for your feedback!
@malefitz6886
@malefitz6886 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology Sure, thanks for the answer. I saw a documentation about a successful test of Volocopter in Singapore, but didn't know how close to production they were.
@Reggy2000
@Reggy2000 3 жыл бұрын
Say it again with me “it is not available for individual sale”
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Would you rather not know if you can/cannot purchase it in the future?
@spredluv1
@spredluv1 2 жыл бұрын
🧐Do police have better equipment? 💲Where are those videos ?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
By police, do you mean military?
@Makedonac007
@Makedonac007 2 жыл бұрын
🗽 waiting on literature Federal ... to see when My car is permissible for recharge at these station's ... continue motion uP thErE 🇺🇸
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! Yes, that'll be interesting. Sharing charging stations.
@tellydianadayondon6534
@tellydianadayondon6534 3 жыл бұрын
All of them are big drones not even a car.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty much. We won’t be seeing any ‘flying cars’. Right now that’s just an old term used to describe what you see here.
@Birdylockso
@Birdylockso 3 жыл бұрын
What about Joby?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
YES! Thanks for mentioning. Joby is in my next top 5 video set to release soon! Be on the look out 👀
@sunaxes
@sunaxes 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology It is just superior to the ones you showed here though.
@sdfft820
@sdfft820 2 жыл бұрын
Why not a tie fighter?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry. Not sure I understand.
@varunsadh3436
@varunsadh3436 2 жыл бұрын
What price
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Most are still trying to come up with a reasonable price.
@cityplanconsultores2188
@cityplanconsultores2188 Жыл бұрын
the best is the Hoversurf company
@DarthDuress
@DarthDuress 2 жыл бұрын
A personal aircraft would be available for individual sale. Remove those that aren’t and replace them with those that are!
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. Agreed, but this is a video with both types of aircraft.
@mpoelsma7561
@mpoelsma7561 2 жыл бұрын
The V tol technoligy can be robosized by 5g much better then electric cars du,ll you can not bump into things in air must less. More space in all dimensions. So you can create a world sized covered network by membership and lower the costeds. So transportion more out of the private sphere into the public sphere is the future I think. Because les roads are needed and less input into the invirement.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
It will definitely be fun to watch this space progress into full autonomous VTOL robotaxis. Thanks for your thoughts!
@jpinto31290
@jpinto31290 3 жыл бұрын
your missing 2 at least, RTP and ACIC
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
They are definitely players in the game and looking forward to seeing what they put out, but I chose the top 5 that were closest to production or already being produced.
@Birdylockso
@Birdylockso 3 жыл бұрын
Maximum flight time of 15 minutes? Are you serious? What's the point?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
They have to start developing the tech somewhere, right?
@Birdylockso
@Birdylockso 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology , I have just heard one of these eVtols went 150 miles in one hour fly time. You know which company did that?
@PistonAvatarGuy
@PistonAvatarGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Birdylockso That was Joby, but it did it without any payload. With 4 people onboard, that range would be significantly reduced.
@Birdylockso
@Birdylockso 2 жыл бұрын
@@PistonAvatarGuy , thank. the reduced range might improve with better battery technologies, by the time, they are ready for roll out, no?
@PistonAvatarGuy
@PistonAvatarGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Birdylockso Doubtful, battery technology has pretty much hit a brick wall.
@enermaxstephens1051
@enermaxstephens1051 3 жыл бұрын
not available for individual sale
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Most aren't, but the new Doroni H1 vehicle I'll be posting about shortly will be 'available for individual sale.' ;)
@noutram1000
@noutram1000 2 жыл бұрын
Where's Joby?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! Joby is in my newer Top 10 Video I did this past fall. Solid aircraft!
@bmw328igearhead
@bmw328igearhead 2 жыл бұрын
Sooooo what you're saying is.... they're not available for individual sale. Edit: That said, the airbus looks the most appealing to me. Take off from the back of your yacht, land in the grocery store parking lot, get your supplies, fly back to the boat. Or land on an island, set up camp for a couple days, then head back to the boat. Edited edit: I know everyone wants electric only, but seriously an internal combustion engine would greatly increase the range of these. Use an engine driven generator to charge the onboard batteries in flight. Also, only one manufacturer listed here had a parachute as standard equipment.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts (and edits - haha)! Love the idea of flying to and from your yacht. I mean, why wouldn't you!?
@bmw328igearhead
@bmw328igearhead Жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology If you got the money for the boat....
@daveogarf
@daveogarf Жыл бұрын
*THEY DON'T HAVE 'ENGINES'!* They're ELECTRIC; they use MOTORS for lift/propulsion!
@denniskearns3244
@denniskearns3244 2 жыл бұрын
Safety for 15 minutes
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Without safety, what do you have? And the FAA has a responsibility to make them go the ‘extra mile’ regarding it. Thanks for your thoughts.
@andrewrobertsmith7367
@andrewrobertsmith7367 2 жыл бұрын
Not really cars are they? They're quadcopters or drones. Shall we start calling shuttles space cars?
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. ‘Cars’ was used to represent a vehicle that has the same transportation use as a car.
@andrewrobertsmith7367
@andrewrobertsmith7367 2 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology, It doesn't have the same transportation use as a car as cars don't fly. You mean the same transportation use as a taxi? Taxi is a word to define a service not a vehicle. Taxi drone would be more fitting or something like that. Sorry if I'm being annoying, it just doesn't make any sense to me to call it a flying car.
@yellowdeer7163
@yellowdeer7163 3 жыл бұрын
Rich man's toys.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, new battery tech and economies of scale will bring these down in the future for 'the rest of us"'
@MasterMayhem78
@MasterMayhem78 2 жыл бұрын
The flight time on all of these is a deal breaker. This technology won’t ‘get off the ground’ until battery technology and electric motor technology evolves. Also the design of these are so primitive. Maybe in 10-20 years it will be the time of electric flying vehicles but now is not the time sorry to say.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it’ll need to get better and future iterations and new tech breakthroughs will be game-changers. Thanks!
@sooriamurthyk2019
@sooriamurthyk2019 3 жыл бұрын
Don't like the fact they are not available for individual sale
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@aery2053
@aery2053 2 жыл бұрын
Haha same
@williamiannucci2740
@williamiannucci2740 3 жыл бұрын
What good are they if they only last 15 minutes of airtime hopefully Elon Musk will save the day
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Not great at the moment. Elon will definitely come through. Especially with his new battery tech be just released. We’re getting super close!!
@terryjohnson5176
@terryjohnson5176 2 жыл бұрын
Do these people realize I can buy a plane cheaper and fly further than they can who ever pays them $200,000 for either one of these plane just to fly for 15 minutes that's crazy and a damn shame to ask for that much money for 15 minutes of flying time
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! I think it’s more of a convenience and potentially a taxi business for short commutes.
@BrianTaylor-AlwaysInTao
@BrianTaylor-AlwaysInTao 2 жыл бұрын
Get a sport pilot license and pay $5000 for a used airplane - think of the money you'll save
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. So many options...
@gmartin474
@gmartin474 2 жыл бұрын
When Will Big Tech Learn Battery Driven Crafts SUCK.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
They can only get better with each iteration. Thanks for your thoughts!
@sonorousbelchpipe1021
@sonorousbelchpipe1021 Жыл бұрын
If the Aurora PAV and Airbus are not available for individual sale, why are they on a list of "best personal electric vtol aircraft"? Worthless info. Thanks for piqueing my interest and then wasting my time. Out of 90 potential entries, these are the "best"? Leaves way too much to be desired.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts!! Sorry if you felt I misled you. That's why I put in the title 'passenger drones and flying cars'. And yes, they were the best. I also put out another video of the Top 10 Best Flying Cars after this one. Check that one out!
@steffenwolffe507
@steffenwolffe507 Жыл бұрын
There is NO WAY that a 15 minute flight time at 75 MPH will get you 150 miles. Who checked that math? That Airbus is a fraud. The prices for these eVtols vs. the flight time is outrageous. We actually started with Electric cars, then Big oil and Henry Ford came along and screwed it all up, and here we are. (One was an electric car with a 1000 mile range ON ONE CHARGE!) Just think what we could have accomplished had gasoline powered vehicles never taken the ground as it did. (no pun intended) Until we get those flight times SIGNIFICANTLY longer, buying one would get us nowhere. literally.
@raymond7880
@raymond7880 3 жыл бұрын
Where will you park these damn things? The whole ownership life cycle has to be thought through. Tourism? You mean several thousand of these destryoing the peace and quiet? The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
We shall see. Maybe we could use some of the parking spaces we currently have for cars? And great thought - not sure how loud/quiet these are at the moment. A decibel level for each would be worth noting.
@raymond7880
@raymond7880 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology Thanks! I was just being devil's advocate. With the ducted props on each side the 'envelope' or outside dimensions maybe quite generous. Unless they can be parked stacked! Best of luck. Exciting problem solving times ahead...
@aery2053
@aery2053 2 жыл бұрын
@@raymond7880 most of them are a drown dummy u can just park them in a heli pad
@r.michaeldunwiddie2449
@r.michaeldunwiddie2449 2 жыл бұрын
How about a nonelectric hang glider or para sail? Something that doesn't have to be plugged into the power grid to be charged! Under the right conditions you can stay up for hours and at times cover long distances. Plus they cost a LOT less than one of these plug in toys. Use less power and save some fossil fuels for the future generations.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts. Interesting take.
@Gentleman2019
@Gentleman2019 2 жыл бұрын
As long as those vehicles have exposed/noisy rotating blades or super noisy jets, not to mention such short range, they are all impractical and primitive for this day an age. lol the last one is totally ridiculous n embarrassing :(
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts! As most new tech starts out, it needs time to develop, iterate, and improve.
@bettaaquascape4386
@bettaaquascape4386 2 жыл бұрын
Can we stop calling large drones or planes that can drive.. flying cars.. it's not a car
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Agreed. I only said because that’s what people relate to.
@bjarnejensen691
@bjarnejensen691 3 жыл бұрын
Do the math - Lilium is vaporware: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilium_GmbH. I think that Volocopter is among the promising and serious projects - and not that far from a viable product.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Interesting info for sure.
@tgunz2685
@tgunz2685 3 жыл бұрын
I trust Wikipedia like I trust the Russian and Chinese gov’t
@bjarnejensen691
@bjarnejensen691 3 жыл бұрын
@@tgunz2685 Yes - but as I said: Do the math yourself. It's easy to realize that the figures from Lilium are wildly exaggerated.
@___GhostRider___
@___GhostRider___ 3 жыл бұрын
Only fly to 15 to 21 minutes.. SMDH
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
The tech is still in its infancy. It'll improve over time. Hopefully quickly!
@___GhostRider___
@___GhostRider___ 3 жыл бұрын
@@GreenTechnology I agree..
@KevinStrutt1969
@KevinStrutt1969 3 жыл бұрын
Black fly is way better
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 3 жыл бұрын
I like the Black Fly V3. Especially the simplicity and its ability to land on just about any surface. It just didn't have the range (~20mi) and there hasn't been any real updates in the last 2 years. That being said, they're supposed to be delivering 25 this fall (2021), so we'll see. Thanks for the comment!
@islamandscience101
@islamandscience101 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like an ugliness competition 😂 elegance doesn’t seem to be on the agenda! Just electric helicopters, nothing else, none of them can drive. The last one is acceptable in terms of design, at least.
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
I think some are pretty cool looking, especially Lilium. Thanks for your thoughts!
@PersiaAhmad
@PersiaAhmad Жыл бұрын
No I didn't like it at all. Because none of the good ones are available for sale!
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your thoughts! AGREEED!!
@lionelnembhard1016
@lionelnembhard1016 2 жыл бұрын
All garbage 15 mn -20 min flight time makes no sense at all all waste of time don’t invest 😟😫😤
@GreenTechnology
@GreenTechnology 2 жыл бұрын
They have to start somewhere and getting in on the ground floor as an investor in one of these companies is boound to pay off. Thanks for your thoughts!
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