Jetson One Vs SkyDrive : Can we Increase Flight Times ?

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@pulentoman2083
@pulentoman2083 3 жыл бұрын
It feels like we are in the "New Kitty Hawk" era, just starting with fly machines and where flytime is measured in minutes. A new beginning once again :-)
@rangerfontana591
@rangerfontana591 3 жыл бұрын
They couldn't put pedals on this. Too many people are out of shape these days.
@shannonstewart4792
@shannonstewart4792 3 жыл бұрын
@@rangerfontana591 lmaooo. Ice way of saying they FAT AS HELL LOL.
@michaelpal7641
@michaelpal7641 3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the one I like-But-"New Kitty Hawk"? For 15 minutes? $90,000 Dollars? Well, ok-but at the rate of these so called "personal VTOL" aircraft pop up on my radar? Complete with slick CGI videos and "grand announcements" for "commuting" -They always end up moving around at a bare hover, only to skim some field miles away from any urban setting. Battery Life dependent on heat and as usual, technology. Still would want one-but the very design gives birth to ideas of what this type of aircraft can do, should be doing. Yet the technology (as well as the decibels) make these aircraft "prohibitive" to operate anywhere but in CGI or a deserted field! We need to be thinking of Frequency, Oscillations, Electro-Magnetic pulses etc. The air around us is already charged-we just haven't figured out the frequency needed to develop thrust, lift and forward movement from what is already given to us by nature! All these companies should come together under one single entity with one design and one goal-To make a personal commuter aircraft that could be spun off into Agriculture, Law Enforcement, Search/Rescue, Air Freight and, the occasional jaunt out to the countryside. Until that happens-all these craft will be relegated to Aviation oddities -crafts that are no more than a flying weed wackers, barely moving out of hover.
@rangerfontana591
@rangerfontana591 3 жыл бұрын
@@shannonstewart4792 😂
@badboaz7290
@badboaz7290 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but we’re like....20-30 years behind schedule 😄 They need to hurry up I’m getting older lol
@gehtdichnixan4704
@gehtdichnixan4704 3 жыл бұрын
Would buy a Jetson if I had enough spare change. Sounds so much fun!
@jamesdeath3477
@jamesdeath3477 3 жыл бұрын
Seems a similar problem to the rocket equation, regarding fuel v weight. Another fascinating video. Thanks!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@ianmangham4570
@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын
Delta V
@sasquatch2753
@sasquatch2753 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, ... put 600cc motorcycle engine in and problem solved. No heavy metals or rare materials that are very hard on environment to dig up, and far less c02 of production and recycling when the time comes. These personal vehjcles are cool but they are simply enlarged drones that I can buy at best buys. What is the maintenance on these things? How much will your power bill go up ? And how much more coal will many cities have to dig blm And burn to meet the electricity demands ? Besides, i dont want millions of morons flying above me, when they can barely drive their cars presently. Just imagine the havoc... Yeah, They are cool but just a very very expensive toy.
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 жыл бұрын
@@sasquatch2753 "put 600cc motorcycle engine in and problem solved. " 600cc motorcycle engine is zero emission? News to me. Citation needed. If it's not then no, problem not solved. "What is the maintenance on these things? " Damn near zero. Only moving part is for each propeller so like four moving parts. "How much will your power bill go up ? " Negligible. Remember a fossil fuel engine is a heat engine so it is limited by the Carnot limit...so it can't be more than 50% efficient or so. Whereas an electric motor is 90% efficient. Also even if the power plant is coal powered, it burns far less fuel to generate enough power for an electric vehicle than a fossil fuel engine burns to do the same thing. "And how much more coal will many cities have to dig blm And burn to meet the electricity demands ?" Part of going green is eliminating fossil fuel as a source of power. Not for power, not for propulsion. Source of plastic only (and even that will go away when plant based plastic becomes more prevalent). So nuclear and renewables. Some time in the next 20 years, the last fossil fuel plant in the western world will be built, replaced by nuclear and renewables.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 2 жыл бұрын
@Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 Thanks for sharing... This could be the intermediary solution, but solid state is still the end game... Unless you're persuaded beyond doubt that DAFCs will be the future... Then I don't know what else....
@rickbarrington
@rickbarrington 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. I love the entire experience of the Jetson, someday hopefully it will sell for a fraction of the $92k they want for it today
@Thomas-qw5ci
@Thomas-qw5ci 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Haynes has
@neilharris8593
@neilharris8593 2 жыл бұрын
They need to move out of California to the mid west where it really started
@Drone_Out
@Drone_Out 3 жыл бұрын
You can also add that they need to step off the X8 octocopter configuration. The bottom 4 motors run very inefficient due to the top motors prop wash. They would probably get the same amount of lift and more flight time with a hexa configuration as long as the propellers are not overlapping one each other.
@manofsan
@manofsan 3 жыл бұрын
But contra-rotating is always more efficient than single rotating.
@Drone_Out
@Drone_Out 3 жыл бұрын
​@@manofsan but you always have contra rotating on a drone else you cant maneuver the drone as you have to slow down the one rotation to let opposite rotation move the mass. the only way you can create a better coaxial effect if top motors are always in the same offset as the bottom motors as you never break the stream of air as much. as the perfect example is the K-MAX helicopter
@manofsan
@manofsan 3 жыл бұрын
​@@Drone_Out - KMAX has the rotors in sync to keep the blades from colliding. Rotors that don't intersect shouldn't automatically have to be in sync with each other. The lower rotor is simply collecting the spin energy imparted by the upper one, and converting it into thrust. Btw, have you heard about Airspeeder? They're trying to do some kind of pod-racing games with these things.
@davidkillens8143
@davidkillens8143 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an intelligent presentation devoid of drama and nonsense.
@2002RM
@2002RM 3 жыл бұрын
Very good , concisely made video. It puts into perspective very clearly what is needed to further develop these into viable options. Higher density batteries, improved power to weight and possibly an augmented lift option (fixed wing) or larger blades. I'm sure if we take a peak 10yrs into the future, the biggest change will be battery density.
@rangerfontana591
@rangerfontana591 3 жыл бұрын
Increased rotors is the fix... for now.
@thierrysf
@thierrysf 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis as always. You are answering the exact questions I asked myself after watching a promotion video for the Jetson.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@stomptheelites
@stomptheelites 3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the best for me in many ways, the greatest being a sence of 'Spirit' and homegrown passion.🍀
@tyapka
@tyapka 3 жыл бұрын
Jetson 1 is obviously much more superior to that other one. I am wondering if it is possible to combine this layout with some kind of lift generating surfaces when there is forward motion (wings, but does not have to be wings).
@benwilms3942
@benwilms3942 3 жыл бұрын
Profile the front motor blades like a helicopters, and tilt them slightly back, and you can gyrocopter the whole front end for free at forward speed.
@readhistory2023
@readhistory2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@benwilms3942 They could build the airframe out of carbon fiber which would help increase the range, not so much the price.
@ev-ezaye3580
@ev-ezaye3580 2 жыл бұрын
@@readhistory2023 Maybe, maybe not... Any time carbon fibre pops up, it's money grab I hear afterwards!!
@KevinATJumpWorks
@KevinATJumpWorks 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, then you basically get the Blackfly. Anything else requires tilting surfaces.
@LosZonga
@LosZonga 2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinATJumpWorks Blackfly is one of the best designs currently at that category. The only things I would add to it is a second seat, better visibility cockpit and a top fixed elaron wing for in flight stability.
@1loanofficer
@1loanofficer 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like adding some lift surfaces (ie) wings and a V tail might increase the flight time. BUT then the weight increaes and I believe you would legally need a Sports Pilot license which is what they were trying to avoid.
@nikotttin
@nikotttin 3 жыл бұрын
The question is: can it powerloop? 😇 Now on a more serious level, would adding small wings close to the fuselage increase the gliding and thus the flight time?
@MpeshaBrosMD
@MpeshaBrosMD 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the entire shape should be designed to increase lift.
@rangerfontana591
@rangerfontana591 3 жыл бұрын
@@MpeshaBrosMD That's what the rotors are for. Anything else ADDS WEIGHT.
@droolguy
@droolguy 3 жыл бұрын
Short answer is yes, quite simply. The people designing these things are laser focused on "no lifting surfaces" brute force flight. If one was simply looking for the maximum flight time regardless of package dimensions you could add full size glider wings and 90 degree rotating engines to transition from VTOL to forward flight. Flight time would go from minutes to hours.
@01foote01
@01foote01 2 жыл бұрын
Would adding wings reclassify it? Would a pilot's license then be required?
@droolguy
@droolguy 2 жыл бұрын
@@01foote01 Probably, as wings would add weight. The type of lift isn't a factor in whether or not powered aircraft require a license, it is based on weight, amount of fuel carried, and top speed.
@z_actual
@z_actual 3 жыл бұрын
ok back again, this is a really hard thing to do.They have wisely made Jetson as light as possible, so increasing range means sacrificing vehicle structure to add range. Because the few ways of increasing flight efficiency would include rotating thrusters, or swash plates or wings, or either of the first two and wings. What you have to bargain with is that moving forward with less thrust saves battery power, which you would have less of because of added structure. 1. In any event if you do this other effects become apparent, that transiting into forward flight requires control manoeuvres which complicates use. Said complications go further when you will find your minimum speed just went up a lot without further control manoeuvres to slow down 2. If the machine is purely for entertainment, like a flying dirt bike, it is quite optimal because it doesnt 'really' matter how far you go. Optimise battery, weight and control synthesis. If however the thought was you could fly around a neighbourhood, even if its rural, you need to have more equipment and more weight to work with, like add wings. That of course takes us out of the unregulated end of the aviation market and the horror that these are multi engine machines and pilot training in that sphere is ever more difficult. GOTO 2. keep inside unregulated space for the time being, Optimise battery, weight and control synthesis. As an aside I would expect a reformation of regulation in this space.
@quantumtechcrypto7080
@quantumtechcrypto7080 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe retracting wings that are made of hang glider or paraglide material. Like a wing suit
@nekononiaow
@nekononiaow Жыл бұрын
There isn't necessarily a need for control surfaces. Even a small wing, fitted between the forward and rear rotors could provide lift at higher speeds provided it is pitched slightly upward so that it lies almost horizontal when the aircraft pitches down to generate forward thrust. The added lift would not be enormous but it would more than compensate the added weight.
@PankajDoharey
@PankajDoharey 3 жыл бұрын
Best channel for this stuff.
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 3 жыл бұрын
It may, be but I suggest this channel tends to emphasize all the upsides of these technologies, and neglects to address the downsides.
@johnambers
@johnambers 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great hearing the weight to flight time calculations.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BroSomeTV
@BroSomeTV 3 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait to see what kind of batteries we develop in the next 5-10 years. This industry is solely dependent on a battery with less weight but a lot more power inside. Cant wait!!😆
@metrowireless3381
@metrowireless3381 2 жыл бұрын
This young engineer is a genius. I love the Orb. Cheers
@johngrimes3117
@johngrimes3117 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT information! Keep up the GREAT work, sir!
@johnravensbergen3324
@johnravensbergen3324 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Very interesting topic. Thanks for your efforts to share this information!
@richardjenkins4182
@richardjenkins4182 3 жыл бұрын
Adding wings would quadruple the flight time. Powered lift is great for TOL, and a bit of loitering. But it's very inefficient compared to the aerodynamic lift of fixed wings.
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There is a reason airplanes dominate aerial travel. The first company to make a 2hr+30 min reserve plane thats "affordable" will sell like hotcakes.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Bye Aerospace's EFlyer 2 is the one that has 2hr + 30 min reserves. I dont think its a budget aircraft though. It is a good option for a trainer
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 3 жыл бұрын
Plus wings don’t just fall out of the sky when the fuel runs out.
@daszieher
@daszieher 3 жыл бұрын
@@gpaull2 Depending on rotor size (disk loading) autorotation is possible. Helicopters also don't just fall when the engine quits
@daszieher
@daszieher 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Jetson is aware of this, but deliberately chose this configuration to go forward. It does not mean, that future variants might not also have wings for forward flight.
@mikemccall1126
@mikemccall1126 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! These machine's are straight out of a James Bond film.☺️☺️☺️
@t.d.5804
@t.d.5804 3 жыл бұрын
Battery degradation is also a concern. How many cycles will the battery last before it needs to be replaced ? Very high C rating and full cycle use degrade the battery faster. Subtract 20-30% of the flight time after xx or xxx cycles ? Thats the current problem in small electric airplanes
@dzikieswinie
@dzikieswinie 2 жыл бұрын
Howcome is SkyDrive so shaky esp. if backed by a huge car company and a tiny startup Jetson flies so well? Are SkyDrive designers so bad?
@stelinium572
@stelinium572 3 жыл бұрын
What would increase flight time by adding just some minimum weight is if a small removable air foil wing design that could snap on, or slide and lock on the bottom of the aircraft that would increase flight time by removing the weight constraints on the motors when in forward flight and if the motors could then tilt forward would even then increase the speed of the aircraft of that of the many small fixed wing aircraft. Forward control still could then be accomplished by slowing down the right, or left motors to then turn left, or right and to descend while in forward motions would then still be in just decreasing all of the motors at the same time some, or by the tilting of all of the motors at the same time vertically. Adding the design to tilt the motors horizontally will add a bit more weight that would be imposed on the wings more while flying horizontally and only on the motors while just in vertical flight mode.
@emsman59
@emsman59 3 жыл бұрын
This may sound foolish but... could Helium be of assistance with lift/weight?
@assassinlexx1993
@assassinlexx1993 3 жыл бұрын
Rotor increases great but is there a way to remove blade protection?
@badboymowersofnorman6011
@badboymowersofnorman6011 3 жыл бұрын
Some forget that flight at low levels increases drag. There is not enough updraft to effectively counteract the drag from the same forces. The propellers are actually forcing air downward, cutting though levels of air propelling it upward. Not forcing against the ground to create lift. Otherwise flight would be limited to a few feet, or yards above the surface. It is not like taking off from a aircraft carrier in a jet engine, with the engine placed against a wall for thrust. Vertical props work by pushing air, not pushing against the ground.
@charlesroberson3761
@charlesroberson3761 3 жыл бұрын
jetson should add those larger props and possibly small lift surfaces and a forward prop. They have the weight disposition to do it .
@steveschmoller5489
@steveschmoller5489 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have chargers on the aircraft to keep the batteries charged just like we do with an automobile? I'm sure you need one for each motor but if you could brainstorm and come up with a small alternator or generator that would put off enough juice to keep it at maximum capacity, or even take on the responsibility of flight with the power generators as to allow the battery just to be used for the initial take off or startup. I don't see why you couldn't fly unlimited, as well as the possibility of some streamlined solar panels adapted to the frame to ensure that your batteries don't diminish in flighAs an emergency backup.
@paulgroth3345
@paulgroth3345 3 жыл бұрын
They're just not ready yet. I need to go 35 miles across water to get to the nearest grocery store what you have won't work. I look forward to further updates thank you
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Pipistrel Velis Electro would do the task. It needs a landing strip though
@ozzylogano6732
@ozzylogano6732 2 жыл бұрын
Jetson one goes 63mph
@mencobagear5874
@mencobagear5874 3 жыл бұрын
1. increase aerodynamic efficiency, add clear very thin plexiglass windshield on the jetson 2. add fabric wing, or make the underside of the jetson a lifting body design using fabric material 3. add 1 large pusher prop 4. use hybrid gas engine.
@WorivpuqloDMogh
@WorivpuqloDMogh 2 жыл бұрын
Having a gas engine with an alternatot to charge rhe battery will greatly improve its range
@stellieford6183
@stellieford6183 2 жыл бұрын
I like what you're thinking. I'm sure somewhere someone is crunching the numbers on that
@FredPauling
@FredPauling 2 жыл бұрын
35 minutes flight time would be amazing! Keen to know how well it recovers from a motor failure.
@DivergentDroid
@DivergentDroid 2 жыл бұрын
I do believe by law it must have a parachute.
@bennospijker9737
@bennospijker9737 2 жыл бұрын
Parachute is onboard alreddy
@johnarnold893
@johnarnold893 2 жыл бұрын
these are both playthings of the mega rich. It would be chaos if everybody had one.
@presise1620
@presise1620 2 жыл бұрын
How about giving it attachable wings? That will allow it to coast in the air saving battery life.
@ScienceNotFaith
@ScienceNotFaith 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that the SD03 could shed a lot of excess weight by removing all that cowling. Strip it down to just the cockpit, frame, battery compartment, and rotors. Wonder how much weight that would save and how much flight time would improve?
@brandonfranklin4533
@brandonfranklin4533 3 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of the Jetson One, but $92k is way too much for 5 min of flight time. Personally, I think if we are going to get good use out of these kinds of airframes we need a lightweight hybrid gas/electric power system. A sort of auxiliary power unit to help keep batteries up while flying. Larger installations could use a turbo shaft generator while smaller ones could use two or four stroke engines for their APU. Just my 2¢, especially for the ultralight crowd.
@Metrofarquhar
@Metrofarquhar 3 жыл бұрын
Then again, auxiliary power from a hybrid system would add considerably to the weight AND cost, especially if a turbine engine were to be employed with respect to cost. Added to that, the Jetson seems to be particularly sensitive to any additions in weight.
@stardustblue3625
@stardustblue3625 3 жыл бұрын
the jetson has a 20 min air time
@arthurgimba1310
@arthurgimba1310 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if an alternator system would aid in battery life and flight time... Simply recharging the battery as the rotors spin and flight continues and maybe compromise a little bit of the altitude for the Jetson
@euroclyde
@euroclyde 3 жыл бұрын
Do these type of rotor systems become more efficient with increased inflow (associated with gaining airspeed) like a helicopter as it transitions from hovering and gains airspeed? Also, could power required decrease itch increased if the craft was a lifting body &/ had other lifting surfaces like wings?
@ianglennie1755
@ianglennie1755 2 жыл бұрын
What about the powerful downdraft and its impact on other users, people below, wildlife, soil etc?
@leef7855
@leef7855 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't you add mini alternators under every blade charging the battery as you go?
@headcrab4090
@headcrab4090 3 жыл бұрын
Reduce the drag of the design. But that would add weight and cost. This is a dead end without a new powersource that not yet exists. I believe you are right that bigger rotors could benefit.
@onetruekeeper418
@onetruekeeper418 2 жыл бұрын
What about installing free energy electric generators using car alternators shown on YT ? If it works the flying vehicle could have unlimited range.
@Silverbugle2005
@Silverbugle2005 3 жыл бұрын
What's the possibility of adding a small jet turbine with a generator like a commercial aircraft's APU system to provide electricity for extended flights? Yes, I know we are working toward all electric aircraft, but we just don't have the same power density in batteries as we do from chemical fuels.
@fineshooter50
@fineshooter50 2 жыл бұрын
I love this whole concept! Definitely the way of the future.
@abvmoose87
@abvmoose87 2 жыл бұрын
I like co-axial design, could there be any benefit of adding 2 more co-axial rotors giving it a total of 6 coax rotors?
@hccarder
@hccarder 2 жыл бұрын
What about using solar and or wind to recharge batteries during flight?
@zasanafesenov
@zasanafesenov 3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the way to go, but, I think i will wait for the Jetson 2!
@myuncle2
@myuncle2 3 жыл бұрын
Solution is a 4 winged "plane", acting like a flying wind turbine, to recharge the batteries during flight. An electric aircraft could use roll maneuvers, so the plane wings can spin on the opposite direction, with full 360° revolutions on its longitudinal axis. First pair of wings spin on one side, second pair of wings spin faster on the opposite side, this way the pilot or passengers will never be upside-down.
@freemarketjoe9869
@freemarketjoe9869 Жыл бұрын
Just interested what would happen if you had one or two of the rotors fail in flight? What is the height ceiling on these things? If you were several thousand feet up and had rotor failure, would you coast down or drop like a rock? Helicopters are very un aerodynamic when the rotors fail. Has anyone ever tried doing a loop in one of these things? They will.
@xaverpan6131
@xaverpan6131 2 жыл бұрын
Easy solution for longer flight times: Kerosine - with 50 times higher energy density than Li-Batteries. This could be combined with a generator and buffer battery if one wants to keep the electric motors by all means.
@NeedsContent
@NeedsContent 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and concise video, thank you!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@spawn1086
@spawn1086 3 жыл бұрын
Would adding multiple generators cause too much drag on the rotors and cause too much rotor reduction SPEED? Or how about adding a film solar panel to it ? How many watts are these rotors pulling?
@chrisliddiard725
@chrisliddiard725 3 жыл бұрын
what about a combination of drone control and helium to make it lighter? What would such a single person vehicle look like? How much Helium would you need to help offset the weight of a passensger with this tech?
@noalear
@noalear 3 жыл бұрын
About 80 cubic meters (14x14x14' cube) would lift it and an 85kg occupant.
@chrisliddiard725
@chrisliddiard725 3 жыл бұрын
@@noalear OK, that's one possible direction to offset some if not all of the weight. I also wonder about the motors / propellers. It seems to be the center of those propellers motors is a high source of drag. So what about a different configuration of motor propeller. Imagine if the propeller or 'rotor' had no central core, but instead had its baring on its outer edge with the outer edge as a kind of inside out motor. It might work a bit like the maglev trains where the idea of the motor is turned inside out. You would have many more of these motor within the frame of the plane. There might even be benefits in having higher speed 'rotors'.
@thomasmiller2293
@thomasmiller2293 2 жыл бұрын
What about adding a generator to keep batteries charged?
@procatprocat9647
@procatprocat9647 3 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the video focus heavily on wings ? It seeems like such ab obvious design improvement, but maybe there is a legal catagorisation issue for a plane vs a quadcopter
@hansvantonder3369
@hansvantonder3369 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Jetson 1 is heading in the right direction, unfortunate about flight time and weight restriction, room for improvement, as I am sure will happen in the near future. Jetson 1 out Performs any rival complications, they are surely in a field of their own.
@robertperry437
@robertperry437 2 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you added an alternator to keep the battery charged if that would help with the a longer flight time?
@bremnersghost948
@bremnersghost948 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until Machines like these can fly for 2 hours and Recharge quickly, Be a Dream come True!!
@wordcarr8750
@wordcarr8750 2 жыл бұрын
Would like to know what the HP of each (fan) motor is on these aircraft.
@bigfootdarrell13
@bigfootdarrell13 2 жыл бұрын
So if you do a half roll, to invert, does it have enough thrust to fly inverted?...
@misterghee1
@misterghee1 2 жыл бұрын
Circular tube wing around the whole thing that is my idea for these machines like to hear your thoughts Gman
@jasonochs8369
@jasonochs8369 2 жыл бұрын
Why couldnt a small fixed wing, or 2 or even 3 be mounted to help with lift while cruising? same speed, less energy used while forward movement is being achieved
@rasheedwint7096
@rasheedwint7096 3 жыл бұрын
I will love to buy one but waiting untill they're in better development...I need more flight time...but they both are awesome...
@FLYBOY123456789
@FLYBOY123456789 Жыл бұрын
if the jetson one has been around for 2+ years, how come there are NO videos from owners/pilots regarding their unboxing, flying, pros/cons, etc?
@blackwater7183
@blackwater7183 2 жыл бұрын
We just need to wait for better battery technology. Just waiting for that solid state battery with graphine. I also don't understand why they can't make a hybrid for now, gas and electric.
@glennturner4807
@glennturner4807 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried Toroidal props yet? They increase efficiency by 105%. I know they're expensive but in time they will get cheaper. Maybe adding inflated skids like helicopters have but with Helium just to take a few kilograms of weight out of the equation? Also makes a for nice landing on land and water. Can they use the Lifting Body principle to add some lift when in forward flight?
@williamarnett9064
@williamarnett9064 3 жыл бұрын
Why not add generators to the motors like hybrid cars have in their brake systems.
@fabreezo
@fabreezo 3 жыл бұрын
I love the innovation of these and the idea of flying finally. But, only thing that scares me is air traffic control and safety. This could be difficult considering people will have the ability to go just about anywhere in any direction they desire versus when in a land vehicle your somewhat limited because of landscape so it was a little easier to traffic control people. It would be pretty scary just witnessing someone fall out of the sky randomly and land on your sidewalk table at a restaurant because they clipped a rotor or crashed into someone else, not to mention more chance of death cause you didn’t just crash you also now have to plummet to the earth. At least in a car you have a chance to survive after impact if you crash. I’m sure this is one of the many reasons its taken us so long to adopt flying as an option in our everyday travel even though we’ve had the technology to do so
@RobertWilke
@RobertWilke 3 жыл бұрын
If anything in metro areas these vehicles would be tied into an automated flight system. Where there would be strict zoning as to where to fly. There would be flight corridors as to not interfere with buildings and people. Let's say there was a medical emergency and the pilot jerked the the craft to the right. It might respond to that input but at a certain point the system would meet the boundary and stop going in that direction no matter how hard the stick is being forced.
@jaguillermol
@jaguillermol 2 жыл бұрын
Cars had exactly the same problem in the beginning. It worked out well.
@fabreezo
@fabreezo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaguillermol yeah but that was different cause cars can’t go everywhere. When your in the sky there’s literally no limits or terrain to stop you. How do you control that?
@jaguillermol
@jaguillermol 2 жыл бұрын
@@fabreezo They could before. There were no asfalt roads then. Their wheels were very big
@fabreezo
@fabreezo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaguillermol you can’t drive a car over a canyon or a cliff or through the Amazon rainforest or through the ocean and rivers but a flying vehicle? Yes. No limits. Not the same situation
@nighthawk8236
@nighthawk8236 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. Does it come with financing?
@setaripantheon8801
@setaripantheon8801 3 жыл бұрын
So if you got 500kw batteries and the 1,35m rotors, how long could you fly then?
@tarunsadhu6527
@tarunsadhu6527 2 жыл бұрын
what is the material of construction of the dron .
@jimkeating553
@jimkeating553 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what brushless motors are being used on the Jetson One? Size and/or manufacturer?
@goaliemojo4310
@goaliemojo4310 2 жыл бұрын
hi, after watching yours, i just watched a video that compared a different eVOTL to the Jetson One. the Black Fly. your video had nice in-depth sexy physics study of the weight to flight time ratios, but watching both the other channel's and yours also made me wonder about head wind. how would flying in windy areas reduce flight time...and how does that orient a buyer with these three products since their aerodynamics are obviously also different in terms of safety, in wind.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
These machines are only available under part 103. That means you will only be able to fly them in designated areas and when the weather is clear.
@goaliemojo4310
@goaliemojo4310 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation thanks for leading me to Part 103 details. Shows how new I am to dreaming of flying an ultralight. I found limits in flight visibility and clouds (103.23), and "congested areas" (103.15), and I guess the hazardous operations rule (103.9) covers the wind issue. But what is a "designated area" is harder to determine (103.19 & .20). I'll do more research. It seems odd people are buying the Jetson one in my home area, which is on the outskirts of an expansive State park, but won't be able to use it nearby. Thanks again!
@murphymac4564
@murphymac4564 2 жыл бұрын
How much do the battery's weigh?
@jerryhoward7910
@jerryhoward7910 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to the E Hang??
@montana5105
@montana5105 3 жыл бұрын
what about hybrid engines ? could fly 1 hour maybe
@jonny555ive
@jonny555ive 2 жыл бұрын
Great upload buddy. YOU sir, have a new subscriber 👍
@quantumfx2677
@quantumfx2677 3 жыл бұрын
How about finish the wall and turn on the Tesla Towers in Milford Texas to be used aboveground this will put an end to short flight times and change everything.
@joecater894
@joecater894 2 жыл бұрын
could add a fuel cell? Good breakdown. What we could have is some infrastructure... say a microwave beam that the craft can fly into which is intercepted under the craft and used to recharge? They have used microwave to transmit power.
@lonnieo4676
@lonnieo4676 3 жыл бұрын
i don't know if it will increase flight time but you can increase range by putting wings on them
@Jb-Raja
@Jb-Raja 3 жыл бұрын
Realistically speaking it's 10 years too early for these "gadgets". I wouldn't even consider these things other than just toys and execution machines at this point.
@z_actual
@z_actual 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at case 2 first, not knowing where they are going for part 'b', What Toyota are doing here is selling you structure, which in this case is ostensibly useless. So how do we make Jetson go further longer, we know there are 2 answers, the better battery we dont have, or add wings to reduce thrust and prolong battery life. So my wing plan is 2 delta wings, the canard is a reverse delta, the mainplane is conventional and sits above the canard as in a tandem wing. The mainplane is a transparent triangle above the pilot and forward of to aid visibility, and a seat tub in the top of the canard for the pilot. The props are situated at the outside apex of each delta, with the inboard 1.47 ft rotating with the motors to facilitate vertical thrust. This keeps the machine to the important 8ft width for transport, although it is arguably longer by 0.9m or 3ft All of the thrust would also be required to maintain the correct attitude of the machine to keep it in effective balance. The sum of both wings is 75 sq ft which when calculated to a Cl max of 1.3 makes a stall speed of 28mph keeping us within the UL specification. What I didnt figure out was the weight of the wing, which cancels some battery power, and the drag, and therefore thrust required to maintain 63mph, and as a consequence the endurance and therefore range. On this case as it was with Blackfly, it seems apparent that a tandem configuration is indeed a useful attribute.
@z_actual
@z_actual 3 жыл бұрын
not sure I went the right way here, what I attempted to do was use pressure shift to automatically adjust the attitude of the machine., and the intention was to limit speed to 62mph. oh well, ...
@renatobarbosa2365
@renatobarbosa2365 Жыл бұрын
que distância que faz, quantos quilômetros que voa ?
@RichardIresonMusician
@RichardIresonMusician 3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Thank you.
@davidklimek7999
@davidklimek7999 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some of those lite solar panels to increase flight time?
@tarunsadhu6527
@tarunsadhu6527 2 жыл бұрын
what is the total installed power to the dron.
@kingdavidthedogo6639
@kingdavidthedogo6639 Жыл бұрын
I swapped mine with a good ol' fashion Briggs & Stratton 5hp. Works fantastic!
@VonSpud
@VonSpud 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video thanks. If I could afford one if these i would still wait until flight time is over an hour. Curious if Tesla 4860 batteries would be of benefit.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Tesla 4860 arent more energy dense. They just dont heat up as much. These means you dont need a cooling system. The current Jetson 1 also doesnt use a cooling system. You would be able to afford these as there are many similar ones in the works. I would wait for the Chinese one that will be available for 1/3 of the prize.
@VonSpud
@VonSpud 2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation if I will be flying one of these at 1000 foot high... I'd want made in Germany, S.Korea or Japan. Just the way the world is. I was not aware these flying cockpits used batteries comparable to Tesla technologies. Where do I find the data on these batteries...seeing as you know more about them than I do.
@guytelfer1353
@guytelfer1353 2 жыл бұрын
What you should do is tow the weight supported by a tow cable, you don't have to fly so high keep it close to ground
@greatsol2444
@greatsol2444 3 жыл бұрын
Has anyone hear of the new solid hydrogen tape fuel tech? Any thoughts Mr. Electric Aviation..?
@fortify1123
@fortify1123 3 жыл бұрын
We've got to come up with some type of hover conversion device. Kinda like what they have in the matrix movies.
@oldmountainmarineandmetals9736
@oldmountainmarineandmetals9736 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I would love to fly one!
@vgovger4373
@vgovger4373 3 жыл бұрын
Can't the spinning rotors recharge the battery?
@Cee64E
@Cee64E 3 жыл бұрын
There is a type of drone, pioneered by RC Heli Champion Curtis Youngblood, that uses a single motor to drive all four rotors at a constant speed and varies the pitch of individual rotors for maneuvers. He did this using a custom control board, but the hardware was mostly off-the-shelf model Helicopter parts that were repurposed. The reason I mention this is that if such a thing could be done at man-carrying scales, we could dispense with batteries altogether and use a lightweight, high-performance engine. Think liter-sized motorcycle engines. This would also improve maneuverability of the craft since rotor inertia would no longer restrict thrust changes. There are other benefits to Collective-Pitch rotors on multirotor craft like this, which are mentioned in the linked video, below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip-qmXh_o7mLj8U
@MonsiorTortoise
@MonsiorTortoise 2 жыл бұрын
Ellon Musks design had a central motor and propellor, this allows him to charge his vehicles while descending altitude! There are a ton of ideas incorporating small solar panels. If the motors can tilt slightly for forward travel, set up a charge circuit for each of the motors and program rear propellors to tilt the same way. Funnel some air creating scoops along the sides front and rear of the craft. Create some contoured vents to direct air to the central fan to allow new controls to blow air down constantly during flight. The motor will provide constant charge during flight. Once you program it properly.
@thomasboll
@thomasboll 2 жыл бұрын
But what about Cyclorotor flying Cars?
@kmartinez670
@kmartinez670 3 жыл бұрын
Question? Does anyone know how much a Wright electric spirit cost? I can’t find anything on google and i was hoping someone here might know.
@kaox44
@kaox44 3 жыл бұрын
We aren't even close to these being mainstream. We need 300 miles of range or at least 2 to 3hrs of flight.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
The Jetson one is not meant for long distance commuting. Its just like a Dodgem car or a Go kart, that you will be able to fly in certain areas
@kaox44
@kaox44 3 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation ...that's disappointing at $100K. My dream of personal free flight will have to wait....
@joegolfer9372
@joegolfer9372 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to getting seated immediately in my favorite restaurants.
@sunnyhawkadventures864
@sunnyhawkadventures864 2 жыл бұрын
I think the video speaks for it self on who is ahead.
@tgag88
@tgag88 3 жыл бұрын
为什么人的位置不放一个稳定器,类似摄像头的那种
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