It feels like we are in the "New Kitty Hawk" era, just starting with fly machines and where flytime is measured in minutes. A new beginning once again :-)
@rangerfontana5913 жыл бұрын
They couldn't put pedals on this. Too many people are out of shape these days.
@shannonstewart47923 жыл бұрын
@@rangerfontana591 lmaooo. Ice way of saying they FAT AS HELL LOL.
@michaelpal76413 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the one I like-But-"New Kitty Hawk"? For 15 minutes? $90,000 Dollars? Well, ok-but at the rate of these so called "personal VTOL" aircraft pop up on my radar? Complete with slick CGI videos and "grand announcements" for "commuting" -They always end up moving around at a bare hover, only to skim some field miles away from any urban setting. Battery Life dependent on heat and as usual, technology. Still would want one-but the very design gives birth to ideas of what this type of aircraft can do, should be doing. Yet the technology (as well as the decibels) make these aircraft "prohibitive" to operate anywhere but in CGI or a deserted field! We need to be thinking of Frequency, Oscillations, Electro-Magnetic pulses etc. The air around us is already charged-we just haven't figured out the frequency needed to develop thrust, lift and forward movement from what is already given to us by nature! All these companies should come together under one single entity with one design and one goal-To make a personal commuter aircraft that could be spun off into Agriculture, Law Enforcement, Search/Rescue, Air Freight and, the occasional jaunt out to the countryside. Until that happens-all these craft will be relegated to Aviation oddities -crafts that are no more than a flying weed wackers, barely moving out of hover.
@rangerfontana5913 жыл бұрын
@@shannonstewart4792 😂
@badboaz72903 жыл бұрын
Yes but we’re like....20-30 years behind schedule 😄 They need to hurry up I’m getting older lol
@gehtdichnixan47043 жыл бұрын
Would buy a Jetson if I had enough spare change. Sounds so much fun!
@jamesdeath34773 жыл бұрын
Seems a similar problem to the rocket equation, regarding fuel v weight. Another fascinating video. Thanks!
@ElectricAviation3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@ianmangham45703 жыл бұрын
Delta V
@sasquatch27533 жыл бұрын
Agreed, ... put 600cc motorcycle engine in and problem solved. No heavy metals or rare materials that are very hard on environment to dig up, and far less c02 of production and recycling when the time comes. These personal vehjcles are cool but they are simply enlarged drones that I can buy at best buys. What is the maintenance on these things? How much will your power bill go up ? And how much more coal will many cities have to dig blm And burn to meet the electricity demands ? Besides, i dont want millions of morons flying above me, when they can barely drive their cars presently. Just imagine the havoc... Yeah, They are cool but just a very very expensive toy.
@neutrino78x2 жыл бұрын
@@sasquatch2753 "put 600cc motorcycle engine in and problem solved. " 600cc motorcycle engine is zero emission? News to me. Citation needed. If it's not then no, problem not solved. "What is the maintenance on these things? " Damn near zero. Only moving part is for each propeller so like four moving parts. "How much will your power bill go up ? " Negligible. Remember a fossil fuel engine is a heat engine so it is limited by the Carnot limit...so it can't be more than 50% efficient or so. Whereas an electric motor is 90% efficient. Also even if the power plant is coal powered, it burns far less fuel to generate enough power for an electric vehicle than a fossil fuel engine burns to do the same thing. "And how much more coal will many cities have to dig blm And burn to meet the electricity demands ?" Part of going green is eliminating fossil fuel as a source of power. Not for power, not for propulsion. Source of plastic only (and even that will go away when plant based plastic becomes more prevalent). So nuclear and renewables. Some time in the next 20 years, the last fossil fuel plant in the western world will be built, replaced by nuclear and renewables.
@ev-ezaye35802 жыл бұрын
@Jan 6 was "Wall Street Putsch" part 2 Thanks for sharing... This could be the intermediary solution, but solid state is still the end game... Unless you're persuaded beyond doubt that DAFCs will be the future... Then I don't know what else....
@rickbarrington2 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis. I love the entire experience of the Jetson, someday hopefully it will sell for a fraction of the $92k they want for it today
@Thomas-qw5ci2 жыл бұрын
Thomas Haynes has
@neilharris85932 жыл бұрын
They need to move out of California to the mid west where it really started
@Drone_Out3 жыл бұрын
You can also add that they need to step off the X8 octocopter configuration. The bottom 4 motors run very inefficient due to the top motors prop wash. They would probably get the same amount of lift and more flight time with a hexa configuration as long as the propellers are not overlapping one each other.
@manofsan3 жыл бұрын
But contra-rotating is always more efficient than single rotating.
@Drone_Out3 жыл бұрын
@@manofsan but you always have contra rotating on a drone else you cant maneuver the drone as you have to slow down the one rotation to let opposite rotation move the mass. the only way you can create a better coaxial effect if top motors are always in the same offset as the bottom motors as you never break the stream of air as much. as the perfect example is the K-MAX helicopter
@manofsan3 жыл бұрын
@@Drone_Out - KMAX has the rotors in sync to keep the blades from colliding. Rotors that don't intersect shouldn't automatically have to be in sync with each other. The lower rotor is simply collecting the spin energy imparted by the upper one, and converting it into thrust. Btw, have you heard about Airspeeder? They're trying to do some kind of pod-racing games with these things.
@davidkillens81433 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an intelligent presentation devoid of drama and nonsense.
@2002RM3 жыл бұрын
Very good , concisely made video. It puts into perspective very clearly what is needed to further develop these into viable options. Higher density batteries, improved power to weight and possibly an augmented lift option (fixed wing) or larger blades. I'm sure if we take a peak 10yrs into the future, the biggest change will be battery density.
@rangerfontana5913 жыл бұрын
Increased rotors is the fix... for now.
@thierrysf3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis as always. You are answering the exact questions I asked myself after watching a promotion video for the Jetson.
@ElectricAviation3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear!
@stomptheelites3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the best for me in many ways, the greatest being a sence of 'Spirit' and homegrown passion.🍀
@tyapka3 жыл бұрын
Jetson 1 is obviously much more superior to that other one. I am wondering if it is possible to combine this layout with some kind of lift generating surfaces when there is forward motion (wings, but does not have to be wings).
@benwilms39423 жыл бұрын
Profile the front motor blades like a helicopters, and tilt them slightly back, and you can gyrocopter the whole front end for free at forward speed.
@readhistory20232 жыл бұрын
@@benwilms3942 They could build the airframe out of carbon fiber which would help increase the range, not so much the price.
@ev-ezaye35802 жыл бұрын
@@readhistory2023 Maybe, maybe not... Any time carbon fibre pops up, it's money grab I hear afterwards!!
@KevinATJumpWorks2 жыл бұрын
Yes, then you basically get the Blackfly. Anything else requires tilting surfaces.
@LosZonga2 жыл бұрын
@@KevinATJumpWorks Blackfly is one of the best designs currently at that category. The only things I would add to it is a second seat, better visibility cockpit and a top fixed elaron wing for in flight stability.
@1loanofficer3 жыл бұрын
It seems like adding some lift surfaces (ie) wings and a V tail might increase the flight time. BUT then the weight increaes and I believe you would legally need a Sports Pilot license which is what they were trying to avoid.
@nikotttin3 жыл бұрын
The question is: can it powerloop? 😇 Now on a more serious level, would adding small wings close to the fuselage increase the gliding and thus the flight time?
@MpeshaBrosMD3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the entire shape should be designed to increase lift.
@rangerfontana5913 жыл бұрын
@@MpeshaBrosMD That's what the rotors are for. Anything else ADDS WEIGHT.
@droolguy3 жыл бұрын
Short answer is yes, quite simply. The people designing these things are laser focused on "no lifting surfaces" brute force flight. If one was simply looking for the maximum flight time regardless of package dimensions you could add full size glider wings and 90 degree rotating engines to transition from VTOL to forward flight. Flight time would go from minutes to hours.
@01foote012 жыл бұрын
Would adding wings reclassify it? Would a pilot's license then be required?
@droolguy2 жыл бұрын
@@01foote01 Probably, as wings would add weight. The type of lift isn't a factor in whether or not powered aircraft require a license, it is based on weight, amount of fuel carried, and top speed.
@z_actual3 жыл бұрын
ok back again, this is a really hard thing to do.They have wisely made Jetson as light as possible, so increasing range means sacrificing vehicle structure to add range. Because the few ways of increasing flight efficiency would include rotating thrusters, or swash plates or wings, or either of the first two and wings. What you have to bargain with is that moving forward with less thrust saves battery power, which you would have less of because of added structure. 1. In any event if you do this other effects become apparent, that transiting into forward flight requires control manoeuvres which complicates use. Said complications go further when you will find your minimum speed just went up a lot without further control manoeuvres to slow down 2. If the machine is purely for entertainment, like a flying dirt bike, it is quite optimal because it doesnt 'really' matter how far you go. Optimise battery, weight and control synthesis. If however the thought was you could fly around a neighbourhood, even if its rural, you need to have more equipment and more weight to work with, like add wings. That of course takes us out of the unregulated end of the aviation market and the horror that these are multi engine machines and pilot training in that sphere is ever more difficult. GOTO 2. keep inside unregulated space for the time being, Optimise battery, weight and control synthesis. As an aside I would expect a reformation of regulation in this space.
@quantumtechcrypto70802 жыл бұрын
Maybe retracting wings that are made of hang glider or paraglide material. Like a wing suit
@nekononiaow Жыл бұрын
There isn't necessarily a need for control surfaces. Even a small wing, fitted between the forward and rear rotors could provide lift at higher speeds provided it is pitched slightly upward so that it lies almost horizontal when the aircraft pitches down to generate forward thrust. The added lift would not be enormous but it would more than compensate the added weight.
@PankajDoharey3 жыл бұрын
Best channel for this stuff.
@JoeOvercoat3 жыл бұрын
It may, be but I suggest this channel tends to emphasize all the upsides of these technologies, and neglects to address the downsides.
@johnambers2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Great hearing the weight to flight time calculations.
@ElectricAviation2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@BroSomeTV3 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait to see what kind of batteries we develop in the next 5-10 years. This industry is solely dependent on a battery with less weight but a lot more power inside. Cant wait!!😆
@metrowireless33812 жыл бұрын
This young engineer is a genius. I love the Orb. Cheers
@johngrimes31172 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT information! Keep up the GREAT work, sir!
@johnravensbergen33243 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. Very interesting topic. Thanks for your efforts to share this information!
@richardjenkins41823 жыл бұрын
Adding wings would quadruple the flight time. Powered lift is great for TOL, and a bit of loitering. But it's very inefficient compared to the aerodynamic lift of fixed wings.
@CrossWindsPat3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. There is a reason airplanes dominate aerial travel. The first company to make a 2hr+30 min reserve plane thats "affordable" will sell like hotcakes.
@ElectricAviation3 жыл бұрын
Bye Aerospace's EFlyer 2 is the one that has 2hr + 30 min reserves. I dont think its a budget aircraft though. It is a good option for a trainer
@gpaull23 жыл бұрын
Plus wings don’t just fall out of the sky when the fuel runs out.
@daszieher3 жыл бұрын
@@gpaull2 Depending on rotor size (disk loading) autorotation is possible. Helicopters also don't just fall when the engine quits
@daszieher3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Jetson is aware of this, but deliberately chose this configuration to go forward. It does not mean, that future variants might not also have wings for forward flight.
@mikemccall11262 жыл бұрын
Love this! These machine's are straight out of a James Bond film.☺️☺️☺️
@t.d.58043 жыл бұрын
Battery degradation is also a concern. How many cycles will the battery last before it needs to be replaced ? Very high C rating and full cycle use degrade the battery faster. Subtract 20-30% of the flight time after xx or xxx cycles ? Thats the current problem in small electric airplanes
@dzikieswinie2 жыл бұрын
Howcome is SkyDrive so shaky esp. if backed by a huge car company and a tiny startup Jetson flies so well? Are SkyDrive designers so bad?
@stelinium5723 жыл бұрын
What would increase flight time by adding just some minimum weight is if a small removable air foil wing design that could snap on, or slide and lock on the bottom of the aircraft that would increase flight time by removing the weight constraints on the motors when in forward flight and if the motors could then tilt forward would even then increase the speed of the aircraft of that of the many small fixed wing aircraft. Forward control still could then be accomplished by slowing down the right, or left motors to then turn left, or right and to descend while in forward motions would then still be in just decreasing all of the motors at the same time some, or by the tilting of all of the motors at the same time vertically. Adding the design to tilt the motors horizontally will add a bit more weight that would be imposed on the wings more while flying horizontally and only on the motors while just in vertical flight mode.
@emsman593 жыл бұрын
This may sound foolish but... could Helium be of assistance with lift/weight?
@assassinlexx19933 жыл бұрын
Rotor increases great but is there a way to remove blade protection?
@badboymowersofnorman60113 жыл бұрын
Some forget that flight at low levels increases drag. There is not enough updraft to effectively counteract the drag from the same forces. The propellers are actually forcing air downward, cutting though levels of air propelling it upward. Not forcing against the ground to create lift. Otherwise flight would be limited to a few feet, or yards above the surface. It is not like taking off from a aircraft carrier in a jet engine, with the engine placed against a wall for thrust. Vertical props work by pushing air, not pushing against the ground.
@charlesroberson37613 жыл бұрын
jetson should add those larger props and possibly small lift surfaces and a forward prop. They have the weight disposition to do it .
@steveschmoller54892 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have chargers on the aircraft to keep the batteries charged just like we do with an automobile? I'm sure you need one for each motor but if you could brainstorm and come up with a small alternator or generator that would put off enough juice to keep it at maximum capacity, or even take on the responsibility of flight with the power generators as to allow the battery just to be used for the initial take off or startup. I don't see why you couldn't fly unlimited, as well as the possibility of some streamlined solar panels adapted to the frame to ensure that your batteries don't diminish in flighAs an emergency backup.
@paulgroth33453 жыл бұрын
They're just not ready yet. I need to go 35 miles across water to get to the nearest grocery store what you have won't work. I look forward to further updates thank you
@ElectricAviation3 жыл бұрын
Pipistrel Velis Electro would do the task. It needs a landing strip though
@ozzylogano67322 жыл бұрын
Jetson one goes 63mph
@mencobagear58743 жыл бұрын
1. increase aerodynamic efficiency, add clear very thin plexiglass windshield on the jetson 2. add fabric wing, or make the underside of the jetson a lifting body design using fabric material 3. add 1 large pusher prop 4. use hybrid gas engine.
@WorivpuqloDMogh2 жыл бұрын
Having a gas engine with an alternatot to charge rhe battery will greatly improve its range
@stellieford61832 жыл бұрын
I like what you're thinking. I'm sure somewhere someone is crunching the numbers on that
@FredPauling2 жыл бұрын
35 minutes flight time would be amazing! Keen to know how well it recovers from a motor failure.
@DivergentDroid2 жыл бұрын
I do believe by law it must have a parachute.
@bennospijker97372 жыл бұрын
Parachute is onboard alreddy
@johnarnold8932 жыл бұрын
these are both playthings of the mega rich. It would be chaos if everybody had one.
@presise16202 жыл бұрын
How about giving it attachable wings? That will allow it to coast in the air saving battery life.
@ScienceNotFaith2 жыл бұрын
It seems that the SD03 could shed a lot of excess weight by removing all that cowling. Strip it down to just the cockpit, frame, battery compartment, and rotors. Wonder how much weight that would save and how much flight time would improve?
@brandonfranklin45333 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea of the Jetson One, but $92k is way too much for 5 min of flight time. Personally, I think if we are going to get good use out of these kinds of airframes we need a lightweight hybrid gas/electric power system. A sort of auxiliary power unit to help keep batteries up while flying. Larger installations could use a turbo shaft generator while smaller ones could use two or four stroke engines for their APU. Just my 2¢, especially for the ultralight crowd.
@Metrofarquhar3 жыл бұрын
Then again, auxiliary power from a hybrid system would add considerably to the weight AND cost, especially if a turbine engine were to be employed with respect to cost. Added to that, the Jetson seems to be particularly sensitive to any additions in weight.
@stardustblue36253 жыл бұрын
the jetson has a 20 min air time
@arthurgimba13103 жыл бұрын
I wonder if an alternator system would aid in battery life and flight time... Simply recharging the battery as the rotors spin and flight continues and maybe compromise a little bit of the altitude for the Jetson
@euroclyde3 жыл бұрын
Do these type of rotor systems become more efficient with increased inflow (associated with gaining airspeed) like a helicopter as it transitions from hovering and gains airspeed? Also, could power required decrease itch increased if the craft was a lifting body &/ had other lifting surfaces like wings?
@ianglennie17552 жыл бұрын
What about the powerful downdraft and its impact on other users, people below, wildlife, soil etc?
@leef78552 жыл бұрын
Why can't you add mini alternators under every blade charging the battery as you go?
@headcrab40903 жыл бұрын
Reduce the drag of the design. But that would add weight and cost. This is a dead end without a new powersource that not yet exists. I believe you are right that bigger rotors could benefit.
@onetruekeeper4182 жыл бұрын
What about installing free energy electric generators using car alternators shown on YT ? If it works the flying vehicle could have unlimited range.
@Silverbugle20053 жыл бұрын
What's the possibility of adding a small jet turbine with a generator like a commercial aircraft's APU system to provide electricity for extended flights? Yes, I know we are working toward all electric aircraft, but we just don't have the same power density in batteries as we do from chemical fuels.
@fineshooter502 жыл бұрын
I love this whole concept! Definitely the way of the future.
@abvmoose872 жыл бұрын
I like co-axial design, could there be any benefit of adding 2 more co-axial rotors giving it a total of 6 coax rotors?
@hccarder2 жыл бұрын
What about using solar and or wind to recharge batteries during flight?
@zasanafesenov3 жыл бұрын
Jetson is the way to go, but, I think i will wait for the Jetson 2!
@myuncle23 жыл бұрын
Solution is a 4 winged "plane", acting like a flying wind turbine, to recharge the batteries during flight. An electric aircraft could use roll maneuvers, so the plane wings can spin on the opposite direction, with full 360° revolutions on its longitudinal axis. First pair of wings spin on one side, second pair of wings spin faster on the opposite side, this way the pilot or passengers will never be upside-down.
@freemarketjoe9869 Жыл бұрын
Just interested what would happen if you had one or two of the rotors fail in flight? What is the height ceiling on these things? If you were several thousand feet up and had rotor failure, would you coast down or drop like a rock? Helicopters are very un aerodynamic when the rotors fail. Has anyone ever tried doing a loop in one of these things? They will.
@xaverpan61312 жыл бұрын
Easy solution for longer flight times: Kerosine - with 50 times higher energy density than Li-Batteries. This could be combined with a generator and buffer battery if one wants to keep the electric motors by all means.
@NeedsContent2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and concise video, thank you!
@ElectricAviation2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@spawn10863 жыл бұрын
Would adding multiple generators cause too much drag on the rotors and cause too much rotor reduction SPEED? Or how about adding a film solar panel to it ? How many watts are these rotors pulling?
@chrisliddiard7253 жыл бұрын
what about a combination of drone control and helium to make it lighter? What would such a single person vehicle look like? How much Helium would you need to help offset the weight of a passensger with this tech?
@noalear3 жыл бұрын
About 80 cubic meters (14x14x14' cube) would lift it and an 85kg occupant.
@chrisliddiard7253 жыл бұрын
@@noalear OK, that's one possible direction to offset some if not all of the weight. I also wonder about the motors / propellers. It seems to be the center of those propellers motors is a high source of drag. So what about a different configuration of motor propeller. Imagine if the propeller or 'rotor' had no central core, but instead had its baring on its outer edge with the outer edge as a kind of inside out motor. It might work a bit like the maglev trains where the idea of the motor is turned inside out. You would have many more of these motor within the frame of the plane. There might even be benefits in having higher speed 'rotors'.
@thomasmiller22932 жыл бұрын
What about adding a generator to keep batteries charged?
@procatprocat96473 жыл бұрын
Why didn't the video focus heavily on wings ? It seeems like such ab obvious design improvement, but maybe there is a legal catagorisation issue for a plane vs a quadcopter
@hansvantonder33692 жыл бұрын
I think that Jetson 1 is heading in the right direction, unfortunate about flight time and weight restriction, room for improvement, as I am sure will happen in the near future. Jetson 1 out Performs any rival complications, they are surely in a field of their own.
@robertperry4372 жыл бұрын
Just wondering if you added an alternator to keep the battery charged if that would help with the a longer flight time?
@bremnersghost9482 жыл бұрын
Can't wait until Machines like these can fly for 2 hours and Recharge quickly, Be a Dream come True!!
@wordcarr87502 жыл бұрын
Would like to know what the HP of each (fan) motor is on these aircraft.
@bigfootdarrell132 жыл бұрын
So if you do a half roll, to invert, does it have enough thrust to fly inverted?...
@misterghee12 жыл бұрын
Circular tube wing around the whole thing that is my idea for these machines like to hear your thoughts Gman
@jasonochs83692 жыл бұрын
Why couldnt a small fixed wing, or 2 or even 3 be mounted to help with lift while cruising? same speed, less energy used while forward movement is being achieved
@rasheedwint70963 жыл бұрын
I will love to buy one but waiting untill they're in better development...I need more flight time...but they both are awesome...
@FLYBOY123456789 Жыл бұрын
if the jetson one has been around for 2+ years, how come there are NO videos from owners/pilots regarding their unboxing, flying, pros/cons, etc?
@blackwater71832 жыл бұрын
We just need to wait for better battery technology. Just waiting for that solid state battery with graphine. I also don't understand why they can't make a hybrid for now, gas and electric.
@glennturner4807 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone tried Toroidal props yet? They increase efficiency by 105%. I know they're expensive but in time they will get cheaper. Maybe adding inflated skids like helicopters have but with Helium just to take a few kilograms of weight out of the equation? Also makes a for nice landing on land and water. Can they use the Lifting Body principle to add some lift when in forward flight?
@williamarnett90643 жыл бұрын
Why not add generators to the motors like hybrid cars have in their brake systems.
@fabreezo3 жыл бұрын
I love the innovation of these and the idea of flying finally. But, only thing that scares me is air traffic control and safety. This could be difficult considering people will have the ability to go just about anywhere in any direction they desire versus when in a land vehicle your somewhat limited because of landscape so it was a little easier to traffic control people. It would be pretty scary just witnessing someone fall out of the sky randomly and land on your sidewalk table at a restaurant because they clipped a rotor or crashed into someone else, not to mention more chance of death cause you didn’t just crash you also now have to plummet to the earth. At least in a car you have a chance to survive after impact if you crash. I’m sure this is one of the many reasons its taken us so long to adopt flying as an option in our everyday travel even though we’ve had the technology to do so
@RobertWilke3 жыл бұрын
If anything in metro areas these vehicles would be tied into an automated flight system. Where there would be strict zoning as to where to fly. There would be flight corridors as to not interfere with buildings and people. Let's say there was a medical emergency and the pilot jerked the the craft to the right. It might respond to that input but at a certain point the system would meet the boundary and stop going in that direction no matter how hard the stick is being forced.
@jaguillermol2 жыл бұрын
Cars had exactly the same problem in the beginning. It worked out well.
@fabreezo2 жыл бұрын
@@jaguillermol yeah but that was different cause cars can’t go everywhere. When your in the sky there’s literally no limits or terrain to stop you. How do you control that?
@jaguillermol2 жыл бұрын
@@fabreezo They could before. There were no asfalt roads then. Their wheels were very big
@fabreezo2 жыл бұрын
@@jaguillermol you can’t drive a car over a canyon or a cliff or through the Amazon rainforest or through the ocean and rivers but a flying vehicle? Yes. No limits. Not the same situation
@nighthawk82362 жыл бұрын
Nice. Does it come with financing?
@setaripantheon88013 жыл бұрын
So if you got 500kw batteries and the 1,35m rotors, how long could you fly then?
@tarunsadhu65272 жыл бұрын
what is the material of construction of the dron .
@jimkeating5532 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what brushless motors are being used on the Jetson One? Size and/or manufacturer?
@goaliemojo43102 жыл бұрын
hi, after watching yours, i just watched a video that compared a different eVOTL to the Jetson One. the Black Fly. your video had nice in-depth sexy physics study of the weight to flight time ratios, but watching both the other channel's and yours also made me wonder about head wind. how would flying in windy areas reduce flight time...and how does that orient a buyer with these three products since their aerodynamics are obviously also different in terms of safety, in wind.
@ElectricAviation2 жыл бұрын
These machines are only available under part 103. That means you will only be able to fly them in designated areas and when the weather is clear.
@goaliemojo43102 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation thanks for leading me to Part 103 details. Shows how new I am to dreaming of flying an ultralight. I found limits in flight visibility and clouds (103.23), and "congested areas" (103.15), and I guess the hazardous operations rule (103.9) covers the wind issue. But what is a "designated area" is harder to determine (103.19 & .20). I'll do more research. It seems odd people are buying the Jetson one in my home area, which is on the outskirts of an expansive State park, but won't be able to use it nearby. Thanks again!
@murphymac45642 жыл бұрын
How much do the battery's weigh?
@jerryhoward79103 жыл бұрын
What happened to the E Hang??
@montana51053 жыл бұрын
what about hybrid engines ? could fly 1 hour maybe
@jonny555ive2 жыл бұрын
Great upload buddy. YOU sir, have a new subscriber 👍
@quantumfx26773 жыл бұрын
How about finish the wall and turn on the Tesla Towers in Milford Texas to be used aboveground this will put an end to short flight times and change everything.
@joecater8942 жыл бұрын
could add a fuel cell? Good breakdown. What we could have is some infrastructure... say a microwave beam that the craft can fly into which is intercepted under the craft and used to recharge? They have used microwave to transmit power.
@lonnieo46763 жыл бұрын
i don't know if it will increase flight time but you can increase range by putting wings on them
@Jb-Raja3 жыл бұрын
Realistically speaking it's 10 years too early for these "gadgets". I wouldn't even consider these things other than just toys and execution machines at this point.
@z_actual3 жыл бұрын
Looking at case 2 first, not knowing where they are going for part 'b', What Toyota are doing here is selling you structure, which in this case is ostensibly useless. So how do we make Jetson go further longer, we know there are 2 answers, the better battery we dont have, or add wings to reduce thrust and prolong battery life. So my wing plan is 2 delta wings, the canard is a reverse delta, the mainplane is conventional and sits above the canard as in a tandem wing. The mainplane is a transparent triangle above the pilot and forward of to aid visibility, and a seat tub in the top of the canard for the pilot. The props are situated at the outside apex of each delta, with the inboard 1.47 ft rotating with the motors to facilitate vertical thrust. This keeps the machine to the important 8ft width for transport, although it is arguably longer by 0.9m or 3ft All of the thrust would also be required to maintain the correct attitude of the machine to keep it in effective balance. The sum of both wings is 75 sq ft which when calculated to a Cl max of 1.3 makes a stall speed of 28mph keeping us within the UL specification. What I didnt figure out was the weight of the wing, which cancels some battery power, and the drag, and therefore thrust required to maintain 63mph, and as a consequence the endurance and therefore range. On this case as it was with Blackfly, it seems apparent that a tandem configuration is indeed a useful attribute.
@z_actual3 жыл бұрын
not sure I went the right way here, what I attempted to do was use pressure shift to automatically adjust the attitude of the machine., and the intention was to limit speed to 62mph. oh well, ...
@renatobarbosa2365 Жыл бұрын
que distância que faz, quantos quilômetros que voa ?
@RichardIresonMusician3 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Thank you.
@davidklimek7999 Жыл бұрын
Maybe some of those lite solar panels to increase flight time?
@tarunsadhu65272 жыл бұрын
what is the total installed power to the dron.
@kingdavidthedogo6639 Жыл бұрын
I swapped mine with a good ol' fashion Briggs & Stratton 5hp. Works fantastic!
@VonSpud2 жыл бұрын
Very good video thanks. If I could afford one if these i would still wait until flight time is over an hour. Curious if Tesla 4860 batteries would be of benefit.
@ElectricAviation2 жыл бұрын
Tesla 4860 arent more energy dense. They just dont heat up as much. These means you dont need a cooling system. The current Jetson 1 also doesnt use a cooling system. You would be able to afford these as there are many similar ones in the works. I would wait for the Chinese one that will be available for 1/3 of the prize.
@VonSpud2 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation if I will be flying one of these at 1000 foot high... I'd want made in Germany, S.Korea or Japan. Just the way the world is. I was not aware these flying cockpits used batteries comparable to Tesla technologies. Where do I find the data on these batteries...seeing as you know more about them than I do.
@guytelfer13532 жыл бұрын
What you should do is tow the weight supported by a tow cable, you don't have to fly so high keep it close to ground
@greatsol24443 жыл бұрын
Has anyone hear of the new solid hydrogen tape fuel tech? Any thoughts Mr. Electric Aviation..?
@fortify11233 жыл бұрын
We've got to come up with some type of hover conversion device. Kinda like what they have in the matrix movies.
@oldmountainmarineandmetals97362 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I would love to fly one!
@vgovger43733 жыл бұрын
Can't the spinning rotors recharge the battery?
@Cee64E3 жыл бұрын
There is a type of drone, pioneered by RC Heli Champion Curtis Youngblood, that uses a single motor to drive all four rotors at a constant speed and varies the pitch of individual rotors for maneuvers. He did this using a custom control board, but the hardware was mostly off-the-shelf model Helicopter parts that were repurposed. The reason I mention this is that if such a thing could be done at man-carrying scales, we could dispense with batteries altogether and use a lightweight, high-performance engine. Think liter-sized motorcycle engines. This would also improve maneuverability of the craft since rotor inertia would no longer restrict thrust changes. There are other benefits to Collective-Pitch rotors on multirotor craft like this, which are mentioned in the linked video, below. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip-qmXh_o7mLj8U
@MonsiorTortoise2 жыл бұрын
Ellon Musks design had a central motor and propellor, this allows him to charge his vehicles while descending altitude! There are a ton of ideas incorporating small solar panels. If the motors can tilt slightly for forward travel, set up a charge circuit for each of the motors and program rear propellors to tilt the same way. Funnel some air creating scoops along the sides front and rear of the craft. Create some contoured vents to direct air to the central fan to allow new controls to blow air down constantly during flight. The motor will provide constant charge during flight. Once you program it properly.
@thomasboll2 жыл бұрын
But what about Cyclorotor flying Cars?
@kmartinez6703 жыл бұрын
Question? Does anyone know how much a Wright electric spirit cost? I can’t find anything on google and i was hoping someone here might know.
@kaox443 жыл бұрын
We aren't even close to these being mainstream. We need 300 miles of range or at least 2 to 3hrs of flight.
@ElectricAviation3 жыл бұрын
The Jetson one is not meant for long distance commuting. Its just like a Dodgem car or a Go kart, that you will be able to fly in certain areas
@kaox443 жыл бұрын
@@ElectricAviation ...that's disappointing at $100K. My dream of personal free flight will have to wait....
@joegolfer93722 жыл бұрын
I'm really looking forward to getting seated immediately in my favorite restaurants.
@sunnyhawkadventures8642 жыл бұрын
I think the video speaks for it self on who is ahead.