Awesome video! I ended up agreeing with a lot of your takes here. I do think you could make a case for Labcoat and Goget4 being here as well though, was surprised not to see them in honorable mentions. Whatever the case, as much as people like to talk smack about the meta right now, it's pretty cool to see how different people's opinions are on which characters are the best. Character diversity feels great :>
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Thanks! And I def agree - but hey, labcoat got the most screen time in that section for a reason 😂 And fr, I love the diversity
@vietnam_flashbacksss8 ай бұрын
came back to dbfz after a year glad to see my glorious main beerus at #1
@NovaZayn8 ай бұрын
Hes come a long way !
@vikings-pistons9 ай бұрын
So glad Fusion meta is over lol
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Fusions can still be very strong - but it do be nice that there are OTHER options
@kaykyrodrigues3679 ай бұрын
True, but i stil think those nerfs were overkill.
@CpTn_QwRk9 ай бұрын
@@kaykyrodrigues367necessary though
@kaykyrodrigues3679 ай бұрын
@@CpTn_QwRk True, it is the end of fusions but it was a very, VERY lazy nerf, they were simply lazy about the frame data and didn't want to change routes, plus, zamasu nerf even though he was very broken, he low-key deserves it, he's mad hard to master.
@thinkofdacontent9 ай бұрын
I’d put 18 there with barrier zoning assist sniping command grabs and level 3 oki
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
I agree with her value in a team, but there’s a reason why you alwaysss see her chill at the back until it’s level 3 time. So besides that and assist (which are def super strong) I don’t see how she’s a better candidate overall than these 5 Def honourable mention tho!
@thinkofdacontent9 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn I meannnn that ex 17 kinda busted and the corner 50/50 solo and all the different 17 calls in a block string but yeah the top 5 this patch are very hard for everyone to conclusively agree on completely so honorable mentions def gotta be a thing lol
@richtercampista60649 ай бұрын
Cell was already perfect, now it's super perfect
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Perfected Perfect Cell Kaio-Perfect times Perfect [Mastered] (post-time skip)
@vikings-pistons9 ай бұрын
Pleasantly surprised to see Gotenks up here
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
He's always sooo undervalued I swear
@theHolyMonarch9 ай бұрын
Blugeta scarier than I thought. Counter play for Cell... Down mash lol
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
FRR that boy cooking - was close to not having him as a top 5 though And yea that part had me dead
@theHolyMonarch9 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn Cell players did not get buy Fighterz to block
@A_Ali1735 ай бұрын
I played the game in season 3 and hardly played season 4 at all. So it’s wild to me that MUI Goku, Z Broly and Kid Buu are basically irrelevant now and it’s wild to see Jiren, Vegeta Blue and Beerus so high. I played a tad bit with Lab Coat 21 and I did learn of a fusion era which sounded rage inducing but right now this looks insane
@NovaZayn5 ай бұрын
Yea it’s completely different! Those characters that use to dominate are at the bottom now lol and yea the fusion era was a bit rough, but now they made it so everyone is good - I think it’s the most balanced the games ever been
@pbz75729 ай бұрын
This video informed me on a lot, it was great! I’m new to DBFZ and I’m trying to play a Gohan. What are some viable F2P teams for either Gohan?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Teen Gohan works great on point as first char, Adult Gohan works great on mid (2nd char). Good anchors for both in F2P: Tien, Beerus, 21, Trunks. Good mid chars with teen Gohan: Blue Vegeta, Krillin, Piccolo, Hit, 18, Frieza, etc Good Points for Adult Gohan: Blue goku, blue Vegeta, Buu, Gotenks, Yamcha, Ssj Vegeta etc But at the end of the day, it doesn’t matter as much - a lot of characters and orders work great especially if ur just starting so pick characters you like from the show and learn them (they’re all strong!)
@attackingtitans71199 ай бұрын
Aside from teams look at tinytorgues video of a gohan guide, its an expert breakdown of the character and he also has many more.
@pbz75729 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn thx a ton for the advice! I'm gonna make a team in this game like I'd make a team in DBZ Dokkan, so full of characters that can do the kamehameha. I noticed u didn't mention Ssj Goku on anchor, is he a worse anchor than Trunks? If so, why is he worse & how much worse is he?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
@@pbz7572 oh no SSJku is amazing. And don’t focus on beams - a lot more in this game haha
@pbz75729 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn thx a ton for the advice! I figured out what my first team is gonna be, and I’m glad this team with Adult Gohan has some flexibility.
@kurokaen12349 ай бұрын
Blue vegeta i agree, as a blue vegeta main
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Love to see Blue vegeta eating goooooodd
@Tinny_Pot9 ай бұрын
Nice top 5 but side question, what’s the best team for F2P and a DLC team because I’m planning for my birthday to get some characters for DBZF and I want to know the best F2P team before I get them and the Best DLC team after I get them.
@Tinny_Pot9 ай бұрын
Also I should mention I just came back to the game after a few months so I could use some tips💀
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Literally everyone is good- the best F2P team for you will just be the characters you like the most! Put them together, try them out, have a couple u want to see - thats the fun part
@Lolman91819 ай бұрын
Are there any like movement or combo extension guides for this game cuz I came back after a while and just now I’m starting to experiment with assists
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
I have a bunch on my channel:)
@JamesZCarter9 ай бұрын
Just got into this game with some friends and been having fun. But is UI Goku not that good? I never see anyone talking about him
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Welcome ! He used to be one of the best - but got nerfed a bit and everyone else got buffed immensely. He’s still strong - especially at lower levels where they don’t know the UI counterplay, but that’s a lot of characters !
@JamesZCarter9 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn Thank you! Just wanted to know if I should buy him because I love the UI form and wanted to add him to the team. Thank you!
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
@@JamesZCarter personally he’s one of my faves to play:) check out my satisfying smovement UI edition vid
@l37324 ай бұрын
My team is: dbs broly, goku, yamcha I like to use broly as my lead because he can get you into a light combo really easily, but im thinking of switching my lineup around a bit
@NovaZayn4 ай бұрын
I think Yamcha on point so Broly comes in with extra meter to go crazy could be even better👀
@ovairebete95489 ай бұрын
pretty agree with 5 4 3 2 , and agree cell is maybe the strongest . But i think Beerus is overated . I dont know either where are fusions now in the tl , high of course but.. this game is now really balanced !! Even with nerfs i think my boy Vegito is still super high . On the paper he has not so much things ... but when you play it he is so dominant !!!! Kefla is crazy good too, 18 too , 18 could seem really strong , but tbh i think she is not "no brain enough" , her neutral is ok but not more , and still some stubby normals.. but yeah 50/50 lvl3 oki 236hh better than any hellzone etc she is top tier. Labcoat is kinda perfect too , perfect .. but without the perfect attack without the metergain and the lvl3 oki of Cell , who is consequently better..
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Yes I agree the game is balanced! I have Beerus with the slight edge over cell because of the way they use meter (Beerus has better meterless mix) and the Oki situations Beerus has is better overall. Regardless, everyone can be amazing with the right teams and play styles!
@torankusu34459 ай бұрын
Ngl i agree with this one although I'd prolly switch sum stuff here and there but i think 18 should be here instead of blue vegeta
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
You'd put solo 18 as a top 5 character?👀
@torankusu34459 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn ofc I would lol
@hikai93018 ай бұрын
Mentioning bodychange shows me u arent playing ginyu :D he cant combo into it anymore unless he is last character and in the corner spending 4 bars. Making it actually a meme move wich is almost unusable :) I like the part with counterplay. Gj on the vid
@NovaZayn8 ай бұрын
Yes, I’m not a Ginyu master but I was just mentioning everyone’s overall kit and that’s something only Ginyu has and is known for! I do enjoy watching you and Gropis dominate with him tho:) thank you for the specifications
@hikai93018 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn thx man :)
@donvay5409 ай бұрын
Can you do a video on countering zoners? How to deal with frieza players
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Movement - I have a ton of movement stuff on the channel
@damazsta7 ай бұрын
I haven’t played since 2018 and I don’t have ANY of the DLC characters (I pre ordered so I have blue goku n vegeta) Im Just Glad the most of these are not DLC. I haven’t played since I beat the story in 2018 but I heard theres a PS5 version and Rollback net code so NOW im trying to play online But I forgot how to play 😭😭😭
@NovaZayn7 ай бұрын
Now that you mention it yea that’s true😂 the game is the most balanced it’s ever been - literally anyone can be paired on a team if you know how to use them to dominate !!
@Exhibitrare9 ай бұрын
i think top 5 for me is 1.Cell 2.Beerus 3.Gotenks 4.Blugeta 5.Trunks I only have cell over beerus because cell is generally easier to be good with
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
You had me until Trunks😵 idk if he even cracks top 10
@jadawngriffis37459 ай бұрын
Ive been maining beerus and i never knew this!!!!!!!!!!! 11:58
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
It’s new from the 1.33 patch!
@lowtaps4219 ай бұрын
Ain’t Cell 214H frame 2 inv. now?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Nooo it used to be JUST F1 air invul, but they added F4 FULL invul
@SaiyanMeditation9 ай бұрын
Interesting.
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
no u
@JEAFlashSword5 ай бұрын
i'm surprised you did not mention Android 21 (Labcoat) even tho she got nerfed but she can still do everything in the game + things nobody else can do xd
@NovaZayn5 ай бұрын
Yea I agree, but I think we all know & have heard enough of the fusions and lab coat 21😅 she had a lot of screen time for a reason tho!
@JEAFlashSword5 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn YEA THE CAMERAS 😎 next time in your futur tierlist you can mention those at your eyes that seems to obviously broken AF before starting the tierlist so you will get less questions about obvious broken characters in the future, have a good day!
@Froakieninja.9 ай бұрын
where would you say tien ranks as of now?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Hmmmm possibly in the upper half but not sure hbu?
@Froakieninja.9 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn ive seen some people rank him very high because of the recent changes to his combo game and i wasnt sure, but yea upper half for sure he is a great anchor
@loloskuu50559 ай бұрын
For me 1 jiren, 2 blue vegeta 3 cell
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Blue Vegeta in the top 3 is very debatable
@crayveonmiller39096 ай бұрын
I never understood the hate on ssb Vegeta, to me he has always been top 5🤷♂️ every team i have he is def one of the three lol
@NovaZayn6 ай бұрын
Currently he’s great but he used to be objectively bad with bugs that messed up his neutral, couldn’t hold on to meter because he couldn’t get SKD to end combos & for his mixups, and not the easiest assists to use But I think it’s nice that they upgraded him!
@crayveonmiller39096 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn ohhhhh ok that makes sense then, if you use him right you will literally go untouched. My main team is ssb vegeta, dbs broly and ssb gogeta
@KANA_VR_9 ай бұрын
He’s Perfect
@StardustBlazer8 ай бұрын
GT Goku & Blue Vegeta having a guard point armor on their specific special inputs is quite annoying to a high degree.
@NovaZayn8 ай бұрын
For real 😭 !!
@antonypistachio54769 ай бұрын
A Gohan > Blue Vegeta
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
In my heart yes
@antonypistachio54769 ай бұрын
in general, Blue Vegeta is mad overrated@@NovaZayn
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
@@antonypistachio5476 never heard that one before lol always heard “underrated”
@kaykyrodrigues3679 ай бұрын
I was expecting gt goku more than gotenks to be honest.
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Time that Gotenks got the recognition he deserves !
@kaykyrodrigues3679 ай бұрын
@@NovaZayn Agreed, and Vegeta is just mad stupid rn, annoying grappler.
@alexevaldez9 ай бұрын
The crazy armor of GT, Blue, and Cell is really too much. Im hoping they would nerf those move if they plan to make another patch. Its really too much too much for those big rewards with little risk. But i'm surprised Beerus is the top. I love beerus for years, but I always drop him because, alot of his stuff can easily be beaten by good superdashes, and his 21 matchup is way too horrible. Its so bad that you can use your oki and assists.
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
FRRR The armour is infuriating but at least it’s not everywhere like the beams + SD change. And even though Beerus is at the top, doesn’t mean he’s easy to use! Even how you mention SD can go through his tools - well you want that so you can get big 2H punishes yanno. But you have to be ready- and he has ways around matchups although not always the easiest
@Fabio-vo2er9 ай бұрын
Blue Goku should be top 3 imo, that character scares me so much to play against
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
He's very strong but still lacks things these characters have!
@jadawngriffis37459 ай бұрын
His qcf heavy is fucking ridiculous to react against sometimes.
@LeaViHuRT9149 ай бұрын
So u really think every character on ur list is better then super baby?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
He's def a honourable mention - contender for top 5, but I don't think he cracks top 3!
@dudeyaybruh30769 ай бұрын
Honestly i think cell should be top 1. Perfect attack alone is enough to make him so. A lot if times even if you win neutral against cell you have to give up pressure and back off just because cell might perfect attack and get 6k damage off you. Even if you block it cell gets free 50/50 mix up. Neutral with cell is pretty much run up perfect attack and you can do nothing about it. Oh right its also barely punishable. You see pros mashing it thrice a row and get away with it. This on top of his high damage and level 3 oki id say he'd easily take first place. Theres no other character like him. Like i have never seen a dp that is barely punishabke, grants mix ups, and leads to high damage, with only half a bar. If you combo off it yiu easily regain it back oh right you can also do it midair. Jesus
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Yea perfect attack is an insaneeee special - that brings him to top 3. The only thing I don’t like as much is that well it costs a bar, which is annoying just to mix (Beerus is meterless), doesn’t really have Oki besides level 3 (Beerus has a ton of options) and the assists are not as good… again, this is just a slight edge tho
@pumpingpriest58938 ай бұрын
@NovaZayn you can true 50/50 with light rolling crush if you have a high blockstun assist with little pushback. Used to do it with prenerf lc21 a assist. I personally would put cell above beerus but ngl really good list. There are a good amount of characters that are interchangeable within a potential top 5 in this game. I wouldn't call you crazy if you'd put 18 in the top 5 for example even though I personally wouldn't even place her in the top 10 tbh just to name an example
@EssentiallyBlack9 ай бұрын
This is genuinely the worst top 5 ive seen during a season where its extremely easy to say whos top 5
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
Haha that’s crazy, most people seem to be on board though - so what’s your top 5?
@damazsta7 ай бұрын
Im new to game and ive been searching for a vid where most of the comments agree to the vid and so far most of the comments DO agree to this vid. 30 days passed since your comment. As someone who is looking to get into this game who is your top 3?
@johnhelmes82619 ай бұрын
no lab coat?
@NovaZayn9 ай бұрын
She's pretty present in the vid lmao
@ivanmata99488 ай бұрын
What happened to to this game jiren was trash on release wasn’t he 😅
@NovaZayn8 ай бұрын
That was years ago ma boy - explained some of what changed in the vid!
@fulltimecommenter8 ай бұрын
Z broly.
@NovaZayn8 ай бұрын
Don’t think he’s even top 10 anymore sadly
@denisn83368 ай бұрын
@@NovaZaynbuff z broly please :(
@gogetaluv9 ай бұрын
Vegeta blue's grab is unblockeable? 😱😱😱😱 a grab unblockeable? NO WAY 1:09