TOP 5 Color Grading Mistakes for 8 Bit Footage! | Davinci Resolve Tutorial

TOP 5 Dos and Don'ts when working with 8 bit footage!
1.) DON'T use the eyedropper to pull keys.
2.) DON'T use a qualifier to fix skin tones.
3.) DON'T bring your footage directly into your editor.
4.) DON'T go into your grade without a plan.
5.) DON'T get discouraged if you aren't seeing the results you want right away.
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[@MasatsuguFUJINAKA]

This is probably one of the most practical Davinci Resolve tutorials for newbies like me shooting in 8-bit. There are tons of Davinci Resolve tutorials out there, but they are working on 10bit-12bit/Raw footages that are not applicable to what I shoot in. I'm quite sure I'm not the only one used eyedropper to correct skin tone, then everything else fell apart.

[@jvke.p]

Thank you! And no you are NOT the only one 😂I was only able to compile this list because I’ve been there myself, making those mistakes

[@flyfishinglondoner]

I'm here precisely because footage fell apart yesterday after deploying the eye dropper!

[@terrymirande]

Your videos are somehow always helping me with a current problem on a current project. Stay on the grind, I'm loving these videos.

[@jvke.p]

Thanks man! Got lots more on the way!

[@KCIsMe]

This is the best video I've seen on the topic, thanks so much!

[@Spook_1994]

Your color looks excellent coming from 8-bit footage, while I am discouraged by the difficulties presented by not having access to 10 bit myself I am confident it will force me to be more intentional with my shots to achieve my desired look, which will hopefully snowball if I ever get to upgrade to 10 bit! 👍Cheers!

[@dots560]

First seeing one of your videos. Direct and very informative. Thank you. Subscribed!

[@jvke.p]

Thank you!

[@edikristo3227]

Simple video with concrete informations. Great! And ofc, thanks!

[@jvke.p]

glad you liked it! thank you!

[@janikscheuing3164]

first video i've seen and i know you master this stuff. now i feel the energy to restart changing skintones since I learned how to avoid the blotchy look - thank you

[@jvke.p]

Glad it was helpful!

[@dubstepzsi]

Thank you for this I would never have thought of this for the 8 bit footage and i do encounter the arti-fact problem a lot with the clients i get that more often or not record in 8bit footage. Also the way you explain things comes across as very much understandable and not overloaded like most tutorials i have come across.

[@jvke.p]

Hey Simon! Thanks so much for the kind words! I appreciate the feedback 🤙🏼

[@flyfishinglondoner]

Given how many of us beginner/intermediates shoot with 8bit footage it's a shame that there aren't more tutorials specifically geared for us. I've been working through tutorials that clearly are meant for 10bit and whilst I can apply most of what is being demonstrated it fell apart for me with skin tones. Thanks for this video, I'll be working on my current video later today using the methods you've shown.

[@jvke.p]

Beautiful fly fishing videos man! I also fly fish and tie some flies from time to time.

[@flyfishinglondoner]

@@jvke.p Ha, small world. I watched a lot of DPReview videos on cameras and one day was checking out some vids of flyfishing kit and say DP's very own Chris Niccolls reviewing fly kit!

[@hippopictures]

Thanks man. Very helpful.

[@redstoneranger1404]

Extremely helpful for people (like me) that cannot afford professional equipment. Added yo to my list of trusted gatekeepers. Subscribed.

[@jvke.p]

Thanks a lot man! I think that’s an improper use of the term “gatekeeper” but I appreciate the sentiment still😂

[@redstoneranger1404]

@@jvke.p Hm... I am not a native English speaker but to my understanding a gatekeepers job is to decide what is allowed to pass a gate. I use the term "trusted gatekeeper" for people on the internet whom I trust to not tell me any bulls*@t... Simply a trustworthy person.

[@spacejesusadventure]

Great tutorial, did you ever release a vid on how to convert mp4 files to prores?

[@jvke.p]

I have not done so on KZbin, but check my IG and I’ll answer that there. It’s super quick!

[@SbolenseMedia]

I have been using Da Vinci Resolve for 3 years on 8 Bit and this is the most useful video I have ever come across. THANK YOU

[@jvke.p]

Glad it helped!

[@DavidPierceMedia]

Needed this, I’m still shooting on a GH4 and take (way too many) qualifiers, explains why my image quality sucks half the time, definitely changing my habits now TY

[@jvke.p]

yes! I tell people all the time to try and stay away from qualifiers entirely. they should be a last resort in most cases. especially if you're more of a beginner.

[@Mechrank]

Great bro, i really wanted someone to cover 8 bit + color grading and you did it 👍🏻 many are using 10 bit, 4.2.2.

[@jvke.p]

It doesn’t always make a big difference in the way you grade though.

[@Mechrank]

@@jvke.p when i grade i always see weird images. I think they call it banding. I have just started out color grading

[@ChrisMichaelFilms]

Bro thank you for the info you gave. It gave me some great input. i have been deling with tones of skin and been learning more about nodes. been doing videos but i am focusing more on color grading now. Thank You

[@jvke.p]

Glad I could help!

[@justanselm]

Dude you are Amazing! Thanks for the great tricks again!!

[@jvke.p]

Glad you like them!

[@traffikpictures9848]

Hey brother thank you for sharing love and appreciate your content from Africa

[@ToutPourLaMusique]

great video bro !!!

[@jvke.p]

appreciate it G!

[@BlackBoyconcept]

Thanks a lot for this video, really understood a lot. 😊

[@jvke.p]

Glad it was helpful!

[@DanielKovacs]

Thanks ❤

[@yundaz]

Thank you !

[@bo_menslik]

Very good video learned alot hehehe

[@sagedelaney2813]

Here from Emmit Sparling’s DJI video, would love to see a breakdown of that grade!

[@jvke.p]

thanks man! I'll see what I can do!

[@agnibdas7582]

Can u pls make a video emphasising on how to make a node tree. The order and the reason why we should follow that order.

[@DonClassico]

Last tip was extremely vital as I got frustrated with resolve I almost gave up on editing my first music video lol

[@jvke.p]

happy to hear it helped. you really just have to take it one day at a time. the best way to learn the whole thing it to study it consistently. you have tons of little breakthroughs along the way. thanks for watching!

[@danielgoncalves3143]

Really good

[@jvke.p]

Thank you!

[@immanex]

okay man, thats gonna save me alot in the near future

[@jvke.p]

Love to hear it!

[@TANZANIAFILMMAKINGTV]

Your the man bro thanks

[@jvke.p]

appreciate you

[@RealMehedi]

The eye dropper substitution is on point. Always get frustrated while using eye dropper..

[@norgerichard]

Thank u

[@thebrothers5871]

Of course you very is very important for the Beginner's and some pros because it gonna help people

[@_avi]

Thanks for the tutorial, but why is there so much noise during the talking head scenes while your explaining your process? Is that 8-bit footage that you pushed too far in the shadows? Or is it entirely youtube compression? Just curious

[@jvke.p]

KZbin compression won’t add noise. The reason you see noise there is for 2 main reasons; 1) I grade in a fairly dark room, so I cranked the iso up a bit, which introduced noise. 2) I didn’t denoise that footage.

[@VozMadridista]

What software do you recommend to transcode the footage from camera to prores or other codec?

[@jvke.p]

Adobe Media Encoder

[@watzmaaname]

Is there another good alternative to AME for Mac? If I use the footage from the camera as is, would it affect the grading process? (because I'm grading 1080p footage and it's not CPU-intensive) Thank you. Your videos are extremely helpful and informative.

[@v65706]

great

[@thmallik]

Great information, you advised to transcode the 8 bit footage to Pro Res or other version, can you please tell how to do so. Thanks

[@jvke.p]

Drop it in Adobe media encoder 👍🏼 butt resolve also has an option for this. I’ll potentially make another video including this topic soon!

[@shresthasahni]

How to change the Primary wheel style.I like this version of primary wheels

[@thomas_weinreich]

5:55 no idea what all of this part means, can someone explain?

[@flapdance]

Now this explains why I couldn't get a clean teal look. THX

[@jvke.p]

Glad it could help!

[@darklensemedia1641]

when you talked about dont just drop your 8 bit footage into your edit, how exactly are you transcoding it? is there a video or example i can do?

[@jvke.p]

You can do this in resolve or in Adobe media encoder.

[@ADNZ5442]

I filmed footage with the S5 LUMIX in 4K vlog 25p MP4 8bit. But when I put the Panasonic vlog on, and then do some corrections, then put a lut on it, there’s parts of the footage that have red patches/artefacts. I haven’t been able to make a solid video, it all looks very bad. Any advise or help please?

[@jvke.p]

do less adjusting. make sure you've got a proper log>rec709 conversion

[@cubdukat]

How would you handle it if your only method of transcoding is Resolve?

[@jvke.p]

Then you could just transcode in resolve. It has its own version of media manager

[@Houswal]

Which camera was this sample footage shot on?

[@jvke.p]

canon c200!

[@DaniGareta]

Is there anything similar to ''six vector - red'' in adobe premiere?

[@jvke.p]

There is. If you go to your HSL Secondary tab in lumetri, you can click the red dot.

[@DaniGareta]

@@jvke.p Oh okay I know hahaha sorry for that silly question but I didn't get the concept. Thank you very much!

[@jvke.p]

@@DaniGareta no problem at all man!

[@mijis6536]

Can you make a video on 8bit footage conversation to pro res 🙏🙏

[@jvke.p]

i would, but its a super easy process and there's already so many videos out there on this topic! I'm going to try to put out more videos on topics rarely talked about

[@manuellinarezarcos3193]

Thanks for the useful information bro! a query how can I do to transcode from H264 to prores 422 since I use a sony 6500? can I do it directly from Davinci Resolve or do I have to download the Adobe Media encoder? first of all, Thanks !

[@jvke.p]

You can go either route! Just remember, you’re not actually improving the quality of the footage, just it’s performance in your NLE

[@jackdanza2002]

Buy ninja v ... an external recorder for camera... you can record 10bit in it.

[@dark-california]

@@jackdanza2002 Depends on your HDMI output

[@twinkie1773]

Mannn do have a video explaining how to fix dark s-gamunt 3cine footage? I shot a music and last scene is whooping my ass because it's too dark. If I could back in time I would reshoot it differently. Help 😣

[@jvke.p]

It really comes down to balancing and correcting your footage. Correct before you grade and you’ll be fine.

[@Settemsdal]

Can you make a transcode tutorial, since you mentioned a transcoding footage from 8 bit 420 to Proress 422 and show the easiest workflow?

[@jvke.p]

I’ll add it to the list!

[@Settemsdal]

@@jvke.p since i’m on the woundering side, could you also include working with 8 bit iphone footage and gopro footage, to get the most out of it. I think it is a great topic since not everyone has a dslr or red✌️ thank you again for listening. I’l be working my way through your channel and be glad to follow you through your journeys👊

[@dimielkana]

Is that a picture of SCAA's coffee wheel behind you?

[@jvke.p]

😂you’re the first person to mention it. And yes it is.

[@Childrenoflightprod_]

how did you save your node tree for the power bin?

[@jvke.p]

Are you asking how to save a powergrade?

[@Childrenoflightprod_]

@@jvke.p yeah

[@JimRobinson-colors]

Not sure if on this image that using a preset would be better or worse. But telling people by example, by grabbing a bad key and comparing is misleading at best. You might have included the fact that the key can be restrained to confines of what is in a power window - if the key is affecting more than the skin, the first thing most colorists will do is put a power window on her head - track it, then pull the key. personally your vector key had way too much left to seriously do anything with it. Those kind of broad strokes are okay, but not very detailed for secondaries. 8 bit footage and 10 bit footage has more to do with luma than actual color deficiency. In most 8-bit cameras they pull off a decent look because the shadows and highlights that are harder to distinguish detail is recording less data per stop in them. Each color as you raise and lower luma values, have more color shades So in 8 bit there is 0 -255 shades from black to white, spread throughout - in the shadows for instance, can have very little values per stop and when you try to manipulate them - you can easily get artifacts trying to recover values that hasn't been written to it. But in 10-bit you have 0-1023 levels of black to white in each color. So when trying to massage or change the values - the software is not making best guesses as to what is required and gives a more accurate representation of the values. This is why - in 8 -bit exposure and lighting decisions are important to get from the source. The data recorded from the camera can be accurate in 8-bit- trying to change that data is the problem. Should be noted - you didn't imply this, but people should be aware that transcoding your footage does not add the data in or make it better for grading, in most cases transcoding to a less compressed codec like ProRes etc. is a visually lossless codec that runs better on most computers because the computer does not need to decompress every frame for playback, which makes it a better experience while using in an NLE.

[@jvke.p]

well I couldn't disagree with you more on the first paragraph of your comment. for several reasons. but keep in mind this isn't a video targeted to professional colorists. windows and tracking are micro adjustments that have to be refined on every shot. the purpose of this tutorial is to show the broad strokes of color grading techniques, NOT detailed secondaries. especially when the additional information included in the key benefits from the adjustments made to the skin. thank you for defining 8 bit and 10 bit. although there is a reason I left it out and kept things over-simplified, AND noted that I was providing an oversimplification of the terms. Lastly, I SPECIFICALLY stated that transcoding your footage improves your computers ability to handle the footage, and does not improve the quality of the footage. your critique is almost a direct quote of what I said. thanks :)

[@markokeskinen4322]

Why shouldn't I use the eye-dropper tool for 8bit footage? Is it different for 10bit? Eye-opening tutorial, really helped me. Thank you!

[@jvke.p]

Typically the eyedropper will be more restrictive in ways that don't lead to very useful or clean keys on 8 bit footage because the color information just isn't there. You can get by with it as a starting point, but even with 16 bit footage, you should typically do some manual finessing to ensure the cleanest key possible. or just avoid them entirely as I usually do. they're just a last resort 99% of the time.

[@plendil10mg]

qualifier for 8bit footage?hmmmnnn😂

[@jonathanemas7239]

Best colorist on KZbin?

[@StevenWilliamsHome]

You make two pretty obvious mistakes: 1. Not playing the clip to actually check if those compression artefacts were gone. Even if it was a still, explaining the importance of scrubbing frame is pretty 101. 2. Trying to pull skin tones AND simultaneously clip out garbage areas. Power masks [even without tracking] make this easier and more precise essential. Or at least mention them. I wouldn’t normally bother to post, but increasingly annoyed by supposedly ‘pro’ colourists handing out dodgy advice. If you’d called the video ‘things I’ve learnt’, it would have come across a bitter better. Even if the info was a bit duff. Sorry to be harsh!

[@jvke.p]

Well I’m gonna have to disagree with you on almost everything you said. Not to mention that was just really rude😂would you like to hop on a call or maybe IG live to discuss? I’d be happy to explain my point of view and back it up with real world experience, even if you consider it “a bit duff”🤷‍♂️

[@StevenWilliamsHome]

@@jvke.p apologies for my rudeness. I should have just added my points as a suggestion, based on my professional experience . If you get paid for what you do, great. Wanting to share your insights is a noble thing. Rock on.

[@hiabiy]

FIRST!! WOOHOO haha

[@2424rocket]

If you’re shooting 8 bit footage…then resolve is way over your pay grade. With the new Sony a7S3 I’ll be shooting 12 bit, and hopefully in the future it will go to 16 bit. Can’t wait to put 16 bit into resolve. Resolve is an amazing program to be sure.

[@jvke.p]

Absolutely false. 8 bit is sill very common and very useful. I’ve shot lots of projects in 8 bit on the c200. No need to dismiss it. Resolve is built to handle everything from iPhone/GoPro to red/Arri. The a7siii requires an external recorder to shoot 12 bit, which would be prores raw I believe. And the difference between 16bit and 12bit is marginal.

[@ahahahah9629]

asd

[@WarpedTrekker]

Very bad advice from another so-called Resolve "professional" here on KZbin. Ever since the software reduced in price everyone now thinks they are colorists. Advice for all, go seek out a Colorist course by an industry pro that's been in the industry for decades.

[@jvke.p]

The industry has only existed for 2 decades. I’d love to know what credentials you think are required for someone to be considered a colorist. I’d also love to know what you considered to be “very bad advice”, since I only teach processes that have worked for me. I typically delete these comments but sometimes I like to leave them up for the world to see how stuck up some people can be, and to encourage them that even when they inevitably bump in to sad keyboard warriors like yourself who would never dream of confronting someone with this manner in real life, they can have the mental fortitude to just brush it off and keep moving forward. “A man with an experience is not at the mercy of a man with an opinion.”

[@uhuhno6441]

I was kinda hoping this would be a quick one: "Don't." 😂 Glad you're not a goofball like me though.

[@BSMNTTv]

Thanks, for making this video bro. I learned a lot. I’m currently on my colorist journey with a 8bit cam! Thanks

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Nice dude!