Top 5 Most Influential Classic WoW PVP Players

Classic WoW PVP was not exactly balanced, for the World of Warcraft player base PVP was unknown territory and watching the first ever vanilla PVP videos showed us what was capable with certain classes.
Maydie:
• Maydie's 60 Warrior PV...
Vurtne:
• Vurtne Frost Mage 1 - ...
Swifty:
• Swifty Incredible Warr...
Unbreakable:
• Unbreakable Warlord Sh...
World of Roguecraft:
• World of Roguecraft Ep...
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[@corz90]

The trick of Skull wasn't about the movement speed, it was about the damage it dealt to you to prevent CC

[@garrosh9215]

Corossity 2 uses if u ask me

[@GermanBoy00]

it was about both

[@kenitic777]

As a warrior that used this item myself it was all about the self damage to avoid CC. The movement speed was just dam good gravy.

[@FacelessDubstep]

Yo Dude. Tion here! Did they ever fix the hunter pet speed hack aha?

[@androidken5111]

It was brilliant regardless!

[@Switch72nd]

Roguecraft is the best wow video ever. "Rogues are scissors." "Warriors are rock." "Hunters, paladins, priests, druids, mages, and shamans are paper." "Warlocks are mushrooms." "Paper beats rock." "Scissors beat paper." "Scissors also happen to beat rock..." "Until rock hits sixty at which point rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine that also beats paper, and would beat scissors, but it can't find scissors, because scissors are invisible. So scissors beat paper and avoid rock, and that is called balance."

[@GoWithTh3Flow]

haha that is excellent and so true.

[@pierrebridenne8870]

Hi ! And about mushrooms ?

[@Otaku-hv9ft]

the best pvper ever was a mage.

[@810wasaninsidejob9]

I remember watching Unbreakable back when his video first came out. It's what made me roll a shaman actually. Imagine my shock when I realized enhancement wasn't as strong with Arcanite Reaper hahah

[@BBQsaucemix]

Even though he was buffed to no end and didn't show pvp without his arena premade, Pat''s 2nd warrior video is by far the most entertaining vanilla pvp video to me.

[@gofit3522]

where dafug is Pat?

[@Clluthu]

lol too many warriors in the list. Like where is laintime?

[@darthwar]

For real, you really gonna make a classic wow video with pvpers and not include Pat?

[@Warshark73]

It's hard to pick the best warrior video for a top 5 of all PVP videos ever. Laintime was, hands down, the best video when it came to showcasing skill. Pat's first video (world PVP in Valor with an OEB) made us all aware of Scrolling Combat Text and, to a lesser extent, the latest Rob Zombie album. His second video (High Warlord with 52 talent points) showcased why Blizzard never wanted MS warriors to have Deathwish as well as showing how a warrior with pocket heals and 2 rows of buffs can become a raid boss. Maydie's video taught warriors all about Recklessness and, IMO, was the most entertaining.

[@scott917]

Vurtne still to this day is a master class on how to use every thing in your spellbook! Just amazing to watch. DrakeDog is another amazing player to watch.

[@xTera1337]

lol where is drakedog ???????

[@gvvtuhvzfchvfz3584]

a1chera_ wtf an Swifty is good oO? Unbreakable oneshot all Not More

[@gvvtuhvzfchvfz3584]

a1chera_ .....

[@thismusickid141]

Drakedog and Otherguy were so influential to me. They both started making videos around the beginning of vanilla and helped shape the PvP movie scene in 2004.

[@Rich409409]

Missing Laintime in this. Wasn't followed by a pocket healer, didn't show off with insane gear and crits. Showed a lot of skill and creative gameplay in his vids. For me alongside with Vurtne S tier: people that were miles, miles ahead of any other PVP-player.

[@DeusExMachina010101]

Yes Laintime with his dark age of insanity axe !

[@ramik81]

No Pat for Warr, really? The guy defined the bg experience for Warr. Till this day, every Warr still tries to do the Pat thing of rushing into a ton of reds, with topline gear, windfury and pocket heals, and destroy everything in sight (even though the class can't be played like that anymore). Also, Stuck for rogues. A forgotten rogue, but, an important one, also. When Mute made world of rogue craft, he was emulating Stuck's Nerf Dirks (starter rogue weapon). Stuck wasn't the greatest, but he did a lot of firsts never seen before, even NOT keyboard turning, since everyone back then did. Also, stuff like gouge+exit combat+ restealth. Finally, do I even need to mention Faxmonkey for mages?

[@kenkelsey433]

I agree, I made a warrior in Vanilla after watching the Pat PvP video on Google Video

[@OldSkoolGeneral]

No Niar?

[@NuckleBebop]

I can't acknowledge this list without Grim in it

[@taylenday]

Maydie had a Paladin and Priest healer. The Paladin is more often the one healing in the BGs, the Priest is more to be seen in the cut scene.

[@igooazoovig4306]

Any druid interested: Ferahgo was the best of us during Classic WOW

[@ACB1898]

During Classic WOW or during vanilla?

[@christianpilch2178]

you forgot laintime best warrior so far in vanilla - yeah you will probably not know him - cheering swifty

[@sickboy747]

Laintime best vanilla warrior ever!

[@Dustomatic]

Is this video about the best players? Or about the most influential class videos?

[@Snorklaren0]

Vurtne was the best player imo in vanilla, no one can compare to hes movement

[@BigabugClips]

gameking vanilla video's is better in therm of skill

[@alondor8157]

To todays standard, his movement isn't impressive at all. Arena'ers now are certainly better than him. He was ahead of the time though. We can give him that.

[@Malusinek]

Vurtne was a MEME on Sylvanas , every single good pvper has destroyed him in actual duels, but why would he put that in a footage right? T. Sylvanas Vanilla player

[@chaosd.emperor7462]

Alondor Thats not the point. Stop contradicting yourself and just admit his skills were beyond a normal level at that time. Is it so hard to do that without throwing in that stupid "in todays standard" argument.

[@sv1skon]

Ye I remember when Gevalia beat him 3 times in a row, without loosing a single hp :)

[@Sinneroth]

LAINTIME. nuff said

[@adamgniewko9347]

The best pvp video was made by Hulksmash, fury warr and his ubeated 3100 bloodthirst crit. He also played on Arthas, like Maydie, but horde side.

[@jasonseymore8642]

No love for Grim...

[@astalavisitor]

yeah WTF

[@onlyole]

Grim is legend

[@jeromesdream132]

He was terrible after all. Good videos tho

[@sickboy747]

Grim , best vanilla rogue ever !

[@pelli1]

@@sickboy747 And Pat

[@doctordemento965]

None of these "streamers" were on anyone's radar back then.... they were just some random player. And any warrior running around with top tier gear, a thunderfury and a healer in random BGs would do this. For the record... good for him. it's what made wow fun back then.

[@sickboy703]

Roguecraf (RTZS) wasn't a showcase of pvp skills, it was a showcase of how little skill it took to dominate as a rogue early on.

[@kmop1081]

love your content dude. It's definitely bringing me back to grade 9. So much nostalgia!

[@chaosd.emperor7462]

Vurtne is easily #1 for me and Drakedog #2. These 2 had an enormous impact on their respective class among the community. When you looked up Drakedog and Vurtne on Armory, you had 90% copycats of each. You didnt give enough justice to Vurtne sadly in the video.

[@messybuttons7525]

Vurtne is the greatest of all time. Watching his videos was like watching a cheat code. He totally elevated the class and PvP as a whole. We were running around like kids in a sandbox, and he was playing 5 years ahead of his time.

[@3dgaah]

No Zalgradis storming Orgrimar in Shadowcraft gear, one shooting players to prove, paladins can do dps? /sad

[@thepenguinmafia]

I still remember the vurtne tears on sylvanas. So many insisting "good pvpers wrecked vurtne" but this was nonsense. He was beatable sure - nearly everybody was - but most of the people beating him had tier 2+ against his magisters armour.

[@jessyember7384]

Drakedog shud have been on this list no doubt about it. He was so influential he was even mentioned in other vanilla movies. Both vurtne and world of roguecraft gave him multiple mentions. Drake was one of the biggest pvp video creators of vanilla.

[@GMane1]

Sorry but saying Drakedog isn't in the top 5 most influencial pvpers is a joke. He was hands down the most influential wow pvper of all time.

[@sickboy703]

Absolutely.

[@TaterChip221]

Laintime was really good to

[@GermanBoy00]

wash your ears. he mentioned him in his video. As I can speak for myself, I never heard of drakedog neither, untill like 3-4 years ago. All other that had me influenced back in the day he mentioned in his video and I'd put them in exactly that order as he did, except that Vurtne is on #1 for me

[@GMane1]

If you had never heard of him then you obviously were living under a rock. Yes all of the others were top pvpers, but the difference is Drakedog was showed the world how Warlocks should really be played and used to maximise their power. His playstyle transformed the class from being seen as a joke to being feared and respected in pvp, and that's why he should be number 1.

[@austinfletcher6248]

Never even heard of drakedog

[@ratshe46]

Great vid, but u missed grim, probably the best rogue of that time

[@SeanCC]

He wasn't a very good PvPer compared to others, it was all gear. Ganking as combat daggers with sinister strike... And not one of his videos is as good as Caen:Apathy Did someone say Thunderfury: Blessed Blade of the Windseeker?

[@a.b2298]

Glad u had the unbreakable. Brings me back to them old school days

[@i.i8301]

Classic wow windfury had no limits in it early days on how many times it could proc, Theoretically you could 1 shot raid bosses at 1 point if you were lucky enough to get the stack. (this was patched out in the early patches tho, im not sure when the limiter was added)

[@drewjantz9852]

i .i I believe it was around the time when aq40 came out.

[@Tjoggs]

Anyone remember "grim"?

[@mad_lipz5731]

Grim - Path of Blood was the reason I started playing a rogue

[@GermanBoy00]

same for me lol

[@Jammil2477]

There were some amazing rogues out there, he was one. Happyminti too. I actually had a little nostalgic look at some old vids a few days back..damn it looks dated now..but it was some o& the best pvp I ever played.

[@andrewmorgan5541]

Grim was overrated and only grew popular with all the new age wow generations. Ming was light years ahead of Grim and far before him.

[@BroxigarZ]

All these videos were blah compared to Wheeliecool and Champ and only true Vanilla people know them. Their 45 min display of PvP god tier was on worlds different level compared to everyone else in Vanilla. Find the video and you’ll understand.

[@cntrldfision5746]

I wouldn't say these guys were the most influential, they are probably just the best known when it came to recording and publishing their gameplay videos. I played on Gurubashi the first 5 years of WoW, and we had guys on there that were just as good if not better at PVP. Starsky and Hutch were a very well known Alliance duo that whole guilds would try to take down whenever they pop'd up. I'm not dissing your video, just saying I think it needs a different title because there were influential players on the PVP servers that probably never posted their gameplay.

[@Owlbolt]

Something being popular also affects how influential it is.

[@Dustomatic]

Pat’s second video, the one with the extra talent point, was way bigger than anything on this list.

[@arc-sd8sk]

100000000% I still get hyped thinking about the opening.

[@so_qp]

Where is Chipman with his Pally at Law and Infamous Paladin videos , he ispired me to main paladin class

[@deskpunch7809]

the amount of backpeddling makes me lol

[@ivoryretriever1275]

You should do one on top PvP guilds on each server set (battlegroup) I'd love to see mediocacy or dauntless up there ❤ anetheron

[@Moroth187]

My favorite Player back then was NOONE! I love every video he released,when i watch it nowadays it still give me goosebumps and great memories!!!

[@unlimitedpower978]

So a few things: Swifty had a number of vids before Incredible Warrior tricks. Also the naming of the vid is very inconsistent. Is this the most well known players or videos? Because you don’t seem sure yourself. Also it’s not particularly hard to describe in more detail the Vanilla game mechanics at work that made what was going on so important and not even giving details about the gear you mention vaguely. And others made the observation about the skull of impending doom being about the damage it dealt to yourself to break cc and not the movement speed. Nowadays you can get 12 things wrong on a video and still get considerable views.

[@klikks]

6:30 that warrior fights like a bot tho.. why you picked that clip?

[@johnvictorengland7703]

You missed the best one. The gnome warlock who was one-shotting everyone in WSG with shadow bolt.

[@sjoerd3789]

The one so good u forgot his name

[@flyinggoggles1485]

@@sjoerd3789 i laughted my ass off when you said that, true!

[@whiskyrebel9715]

Unknown > Everyone else.

[@CLAUTH]

excuse me? windfury used to have unlimited procs at a point in time.this got hotfixed right before aq patch implemented..

[@chocomonstaar]

It was never unlimited. There was just no cooldown. It had a chance to do 2 extra hits, but if you were lucky it could proc on every swing. As us Shamans favored slow 2-handers, this meant it would proc only every 3 sec or so. Still a lot, but it wasn't like we were hitting 20 times in one swing.

[@nottheonlysinner]

Pretty sure windfury could proc off of itself as well.

[@Calthaza]

For a short amount of time, WF could indeed proc off itself, yes.

[@NjoyMoney]

Chocomonstaar Did u even play vanilla? Windfury could proc from windfury procs. Why talk if u dont know what u talking about?

[@V0r4xiz]

It didn't have "unlimited procs". It was a PPM like almost every proc in the game in classic. The appeal to use a two hander with WF is the fact that if a PPM is used with something that only hits every 3.6 seconds, it meant that it has a statistical 60% chance of proccing off a regular white swing. Yes, it could proc off itself for like half a content patch (!!!) but that's it. Only one moment in time. Not all 2 years of vanilla. That's simply wrong. So much fore "why talk if you don't know what you're talking about?" Arrogant shithead know nothing bitch. WF always was a proc that gave you 2 additional white swings (in one patch, those were ability hits: yellow) with 300 extra attackpower period.

[@radry100]

Did you just forget Kitaro the melee hunter?

[@pirateadventures174]

Im kind of Sad that Donax (Human Priest) from Durotan Server wasnt on here, but then again, he didnt really make videos, but he was the scourge of the horde and they hated him.

[@WhiskyHangover]

Where is Drakedog, no Laintime? lol

[@mrwhang76]

You forgot about Zalgradis human paladin from Al'Akir back in the vanilla days and on. He was one of the first to use Engineering too in PVP. He made a lot of PVP videos and movies too based on WoW roleplaying. Check here on YT some of his videos !!!

[@doompally]

Drakedog, Meandro, Otherguy, Xantim, Cromer, Korlic, Thakshar, etc. Where are they?

[@Andrewf5251]

playing wow since 2006 and in ur list i only know drakedog . who are other guys ?

[@Raffalius]

played since tbc, only heard of Drakedog aswell :)

[@akhsdenlew1861]

played since vanila, i only know drakedog.

[@projektnine]

Look up "Kill Alliance" the druid playing was amazing. The video quality was epic. And watching Druid vs Shaman duel was LEGENDARY!

[@gishathosaurus6828]

Great pics, although I would have loved to see Grim as an honorary mention. He basically is Mute but with steroids lol

[@hitchblade3074]

daamn I still remember when world of roguecraft came out, it was insane to watch (still is)

[@waduhek8931]

That warrior whas a noob feel bad that he could’nt defend himself

[@dirtbikerswe1979]

0:51 what video was that? I remember that rogue tutorial video.

[@GameGuruOkamotoGGO]

Thank you for mentioning deakedog

[@whobadwebad9094]

Pat???

[@animusora]

whobadwebad thats exactly what i was thinking

[@Nintendopilot]

Laintime > All other warriors...

[@Dingomad30]

Laintime and or Pat for sure...like 100%

[@JB-yh6zu]

I work with Pat irl :)

[@Pod-Z]

Pat was horrible though He jus had a shammy and Priest with him at all times.

[@Raptormeatx]

What about Hulksmash or Alonzo?

[@MrBonger88]

My favourite will always be Big Blue Dress by Cranius

[@Nikitos253]

MrBonger88 yeah good ol' times

[@eigenvector0015]

- Maydie + Drakedog. What the hell are you thinking?

[@SeanCC]

Besides World of Roguecraft, easily my favorite rogues were Happyminti and Unsouled. Grim was entertaining but it was only his gear that allowed him to do stuff like stand face to face with players in a Combat-Dagger spec and Sinister Strike, lol. Actually, I almost forgot the the best produced rogue video in all of Vanilla WoW...Caen:Apathy

[@teratokomi8731]

If only my epic pvpness was captured on video back in those days. Alas.

[@zekay_]

Nice video as always

[@matgoat7689]

the keyboard turning XD. reminds me of when i first started

[@golvellius6855]

the music omg ! amazing video!

[@sponkmyers7478]

Well if it wasn't for world of roguecraft. I wouldn't of know all the tricks to play a rogue in pvp. Mute was very good info on how to play a rogue in pvp or world pvp. One of my favorite videos on wow

[@loadnlock357]

Skull of impending doom could be used to break sheep blind and gouge too

[@jim4gow]

who still plays and who doesnt? Maydie - Sold his acc way back Swifty - Still plays as we know Mute/Kishkumen - nobody knows what happend to him Unbreakable - Died in a car crash from what i Heard Vurtne - Still plays, or he atleast from last time i talked to him back in september.

[@banhammer7243]

Swifty is a gimmick merchant.

[@basedsouljah]

defxace Where'd you hear Unbreakable died? O:

[@jim4gow]

i cant say for certain if it was true or not, but it was a rumor that was "confirmed" by one of his Guild mate back in tbc.

[@chouleo]

thats sad. rip.

[@alexandrudinca3080]

Mute commented on his World of Roguecraft Episode 1 video. Apparently he took up skydiving and he uploaded all the videos he had that were unreleased.

[@David-qf8pr]

Did everyone forget about Pathologist aka Unknwon mage? KZbin Unknown mage 2. He literally revolutionized editing with gaming in general!

[@mis8866]

So you put Maydie in over Laintime????? No Drakedog????? How high were you when you made this? Putting Swifty and Maydie OVER Laintime is an absolute abomination

[@taxesrtheft]

thank you for adding world of rogue craft

[@dahlin1857]

grim, drakedog, doomhandle, pat

[@sleazysid253]

Grim was by far the best.

[@ovechkins8n]

in reality warriors were shit without a pocket healer, if you had one, you were pretty much a god

[@oGhullio]

gaaay

[@jslaughter95]

Thats not at all true, I thrived as a warrior on my own in several bgs and open world

[@drewjantz9852]

Wayne Brady in reality those warriors were never good warriors and anybody was god with a pocket healer...

[@TomJoeSHOW]

Great list! Can’t wait to get back to vanilla, think drakedog would of been nice to of seen just to have some more class variety but great video otherwise

[@ShineRTLni]

"A druids tale" was amazing :D

[@Jglabel262]

I miss being a warrior in pvp in vanilla.

[@ayporos6049]

Vurtne, Drakedog, Laintime ,Swifty, Grim my favorite

[@Noctrl100]

Matthew Chow agreed 💯

[@Fragmentations]

how is laintime not mentioned at all.. maybe because he is korean?

[@jl7487]

you missed Caen (rogue) and cabbarnuke (shaman).

[@markie9934]

How isnt Avatar from Corp hur not here?

[@rileydrummond5355]

Best option to record back then was a PVR. Fraps was for the people with computers that cost way way over £1500 around $2800 back then.

[@kevinhowe543]

Zalgradis was very entertaining.

[@Alyxcz]

No Zalgradis? Incomplete video then.

[@darkstormESP]

Alyx33 ye wtf Zalgradis!

[@mistwrath5957]

How did you go from 708k to 73 subs huh bro?

[@user-xo5zu1lw2w]

saerdna was the most influential mage in vanilla and saerdna 3 will forever be the best vanilla mage pvp video

[@chukky1124]

for me it was Pat the warrior ... seriously destructive

[@Zuroslav]

I liked Heinous the most, especially the part where he split screen duels Maydie and wins dozen of them at the same time

[@GHO21DOG]

Arcane mate BOOM

[@kyleromus6845]

Keyboard turning FTW, baby! And two-handed enhancement shaman, God I miss that.

[@chobotaku]

No Drakedog?

[@Alrekrdwarf]

The naked rogue fighting that blue geared warrior (not epic geared at all) is kinda a bad example. That warrior was just completely terrible. Would love to see if he could do that to an actual epic geared warrior who isn't useless. The outcome would be very different!

[@justinTime077]

retail has absolutely not a god damn fucking thing on classic i don't know what happened to people's brains that don't understand it.

[@i_boole6639]

In world of roguecraft, that warrior is very clearly a and d turning. man, people were shit back in the day.

[@BrayZap]

I love how not a single scrub here has mentioned Lumbermill , tauren warrior (character still frozen on wow armory so u can view his shit) dual wielding might of menethils lmao

[@everythinggamingnow]

man, i really miss that old swifty. When he would spend him time working out ways to utilize otherwise useless items and figure out "clever usage of game mechanics" then edit together with some cool music and effects. These days he just uploads 15 minute clips from his streams :/

[@WintersW0lf]

Thanks for the 5 minute explanation of fraps licensing to stretch out your video to 10 mins, was really informative.

[@oscarivanova485]

Where are Pat (I mean come on, best warrior ever) and grim?

[@dannyallround]

pat, overusage of flasks, potions and scrolls and having 4 private healers = best warrior? nope.

[@moltenphoenix6187]

Gegon were some good videos that had gotten me into wow. I see it had been reuploaded, but he was hitting hard for a 2005 video. Just no fear.

[@staurosnordeste]

here is barrek videos?

[@Potrice1337]

No Drakedog and Otherguy???

[@basedsouljah]

Would you guys shut the hell up about people he left out? No matter what with these kind of videos it wont be perfect for all of you. Drakedogs great, Pats great, Grim is great. Its one video on KZbin its not the goddamn OFFICIAL TOP 5 EVER.

[@Warhorse469]

Everyone used to use Sound System on their videos back in the day.