Top 5 Overrated Disc Golf Discs

[@SZbooyaka]

Looks at my stack of 6 Bergs “don’t listen to him babies.”

[@okkouljas5172]

I mean he said you either love it or have never heard about it. So basically it is a perfect disc but people just don't know it exists.

[@jwhite973]

@@okkouljas5172 That statement made me wonder which category HE was in. He's obviously heard of it. So... he loves it? 🤔

[@ematt98]

I only have 3 and this video makes me want to buy more.

[@SZbooyaka]

To be fair… my first reaction to the Berg was “It feels like they recycled a public toilet seat”. After 1 game with the Berg, it became my go-to putter. Now I’m expanding it’s use into other parts of my game: short tees, approaches, forehand flicks, and OMG TRY IT AS A ROLLER HOLY CRAP ITS LIKE A BIG OFF-ROAD TIRE NOTHING STOPS IT.

[@BergNerd]

Lol. This. Same.

[@KP-dp6tp]

I love the Berg more than my girlfriend, and after she threw it, she’s okay with that now.

[@BergNerd]

My girlfriend understands as well my friend.

[@KP-dp6tp]

@@BergNerd You’re the reason I got a Berg in the first place. Huge fan 🙌🏽

[@BergNerd]

@@KP-dp6tp awesome. glad I could assist.

[@drewg3087]

Legend.

[@EKI006]

Berg its just terrible disc i don't just understant why peoples buy that its like innova birdie like why need to get it do not buy any bergs

[@somainevent1]

"It's slow, has no glide, and it's point and shoot!" Sounds like the perfect upshot disc to me... Also, the title should change :) "My gripe with popular discs" I like some of what you said, but it speaks to larger issues.. hype, disc selection, need, etc.

[@TheSpiritOf81]

The Berg is the best upshot disc in the game. Inside 200’, it’s perfect.

[@1isone]

Agree with this, it literally goes exactly how you throw it, wind resistant, stick where it lands. Didn’t like it at first but my friend did, he throws it 99% of the times inside 150ft, even long puts. And when i saw how great he was with it i started to do it too and now it’s my main approach disc, unless i need a flex line or very overstable, then it’s the pig. I also put with it inside 30ft.

[@andrewgautreaux6818]

Cap its the zone

[@bengreen4583]

Nah bro, that's for my zones 😂

[@1isone]

@@bengreen4583 i had an Esp Zone for a while and i never liked it lol, that’s one disc i really don’t understand the hype about, guess it’s more about personal preference

[@lilcha85]

@@1isone same! I got last years Earheart Zone thinking it would be a game changer. Feels weird on the forehand and not as torque resistant (as I expected) on the backhand

[@FoundationPodcasts]

You sir are a brave soul

[@nickmottola]

You guys should collaborate with Swamy and prove them wrong about the Luna!

[@adamharmer5711]

The Berg has a good use.....you can approach with it and it won't run that far past the basket. You can also spin putt with it for the same reasons. The Berg has a very good tactical aspects to it.

[@lilcha85]

“You either love it, or have never heard of it” I think dude needs to understand what overrated means

[@mikelmorrow4681]

Also, how can it be overrated if people haven't heard of it

[@mikegasparac5062]

Same use as a pro pig, less hype?

[@SZbooyaka]

@@mikegasparac5062 Even less glidey. At low speeds its a stable brick. Throw it hard and it’s a slightly stable brick.

[@lilcha85]

@@mikegasparac5062 I bag both. Similar, but the Berg is a bit more stable and less glidey. Seems to be a more accurate forehand upshot disc for me

[@lanepemberton8886]

i love discmania but how much did they pay you to not include the cloudbreaker? or the TILT?!?!

[@Jesse_Johnson]

Amen. But the Destroyer makes the list?

[@slimetime4668]

LOL for real…

[@lilcha85]

This dude rags on Innova in most of his videos. But all Discmania are “underrated” according to him. Has he not seen how they sell out instantly and just as fast are selling on eBay for $150+?

[@lanepemberton8886]

​@@lilcha85 haha and then shows a $40 disc in the video as if that's expensive

[@cannongray1862]

Agreed

[@MaximDrums]

I don't agree with the Berg. I don't see a crazy amount of hype, and they're easy to find. They're also inexpensive to buy. Great disc, and I bag one, but I don't think people are losing their minds over them. I'd replace it on this list for the Cloudbreaker.

[@jillydaqueen2282]

Might be a regional thing then, cuz it's the exact opposite for me. In Portland OR at least the Berg is HUGE

[@MatthewCaldwell]

@@jillydaqueen2282 Middle Tennessee here and I heard multiple crazy Berg people in my first two months of playing. The hype is huge here too. I'm surprised it was so low on the list tbh

[@raidonbay]

@@MatthewCaldwell Yup!!! CHATTANOOGA, TN here. Berg hype is huge here!! Its kind of simmered down this summer and the late bloomers are discovering it ( including myself).

[@raidonbay]

I'm debating on a K3 or a K1 Glo. A good friend loves it and I've had a chance to see/feel a reason to own 2.

[@aaronallen7777]

I own over 50... I am moderately obsessed.

[@timothymhoeksema]

The Pros bag the Destroyer, but it's not the driver for most of us.

[@tobi12211]

Finally someone speaking the truth. 90% of the people watching this video does not have the power to throw it properly.

[@bengreen4583]

I'm 15 and I throw it pretty well, I can get it to go dead straight with a little bit of turnover then it hooks up with a skip at the end

[@timothymhoeksema]

@@bengreen4583 that’s awesome, you must have pretty quick arm speed and good timing!

[@bengreen4583]

@@timothymhoeksema I guess so 😁

[@EKI006]

@@tobi12211 but peoples like thinking "destroyer is good disc i throw fairway only 200feet thats better i throw it 230 in super anhyzer 😆

[@AromaticVendor]

"The Berg is a great disc but I dont understand the hype" What????

[@RickGeeMPS]

"Myself thinks this disc is overrated."

[@MegaLaban12345]

I love the Berg! But it does have hype behind it, no doubt. Deserved in my mind, though!

[@jjw6961]

Exactly. I could buy it being overrated if there were functional alternatives to serve the same purpose, but it's genuinely a unique disc that AFAIK doesn't have any other mold claiming to do its job the same or better. I believe the Innova Animal is thought to be in the same vein as a Berg, but I haven't thrown it or talked to anybody who has to confirm.

[@TomasLaine]

As a person who does not throw that far, I usually don't always have a putt for a birdie on the par 3 holes. That's when the berg comes out. I probably throw a berg every fourth throw (not counting putting, or maybe even including haha). 90% of the throws are a sidearm shot. And there's nothing to compare it to when it comes to that. I have a zone if I feel like it's to far for the berg. Otherwise I would say it's the most important disc in my bag if I had to choose one. But that's just what I like :) I would also say that the berg is a unique disc. Yes, there's alot of zones out there or destroyers with other brands. But there's noting like a berg. One of a kind

[@michaelyacobucci7593]

Innova birdie is the closest.

[@edkorczynski8312]

Lune = tricked up Roach/Challenger...not over-rated, but could be overpriced. Destroyer = reference for all distance drivers...not over-rated but not for beginners.

[@slimetime4668]

Agreed the destroyer has gained its name for a reason

[@TheTranquilEye]

Destroyer's a speed 13 for God's sake! So not for beginners. I nearly made the same mistake as a rookie. 'So what's the fastest driver? Oh yeah I'll buy an , that'll improve my distance and therefore, my game.' Luckily, the company I ordered it from had employees that knew me and advised a slower speed disc, knowing I was a newbie. So, hello Essence, which I still bag.

[@tiitusl5061]

@@TheTranquilEye speed 12

[@jeffheyer7783]

Yeah destroyer is probably one of the best distance drivers.

[@Mikenewton4l]

The envy hurt the most for me. I started putting with it about 2 months ago. Nothing has felt better to putting with. As soon as James threw one in I knew it was gonna be hard to find them.

[@rwsqb11]

I'm an MVP thrower and I agree with your Envy take. Before the throw in, it was definitely an underrated disc. Now, it's impossible to find any in stock anywhere. It's a fantastic disc though

[@undeadarmy19]

Remember guys, he's saying that these discs are overrated. That does NOT mean that they are "bad" discs. He's simply saying that the hype around them is too high for what the discs can actually do. Its like walking around and constantly telling people that a movie is SO good, that when they see it it'll blow their minds. You bring the hype up so high that when they actually go to watch it, its just impossible for it to live up to expectations. No matter how good the movie is.

[@reidausband9392]

This guy gets it

[@marshin7237]

So instead of destroyer I should go down a spleen and stability and throw a wraith?

[@reidausband9392]

Be your own man, Marshin72. Throw something new. Throw a putter on a 1200 ft par 5. Use an ESP Nuke as your approach disc. The world is your oyster.

[@BenPalm]

There’s one you’re missing: the Innova Pig

[@blakebeaune1357]

I've never thrown a Luna, but I don't think I could ever stop throwing the Judge from Dynamic Discs. Feels great, beats in very nicely and pretty quickly to go dead straight... and you can buy a lot of them for way cheaper than the Luna

[@ChadSolberg]

Judges are amazing throwers and the emac judges are an amazing compliment if you want an understable option for throwing putter

[@lilcha85]

Special Blend Lunas are like $19. I know it’s not as cheap as a base Judge, but that should hardly be a deterrent from trying it (or calling it overrated)

[@bobfreddy4473]

hard to describe an innova staple disc, that people use to describe discs from other brands, as overrated. They are just the foundation of flight paths as we know it. "Yeah, its kinda like a firebird, just more flat top"

[@Bfordandafter]

Yeah.. the Firebird and Destroyer have been copied over and over and over and over for a reason.. they work.. and they still sell.

[@wolfgangweber9359]

What is the Felon.

[@bobfreddy4473]

lol that’s exactly the disc i was describing

[@SZbooyaka]

… you’re literally describing a flattop firebird, which is a thing.

[@haroldrichard8632]

Great, now that I’ve seen the Berg I’m gonna be obsessed with it, cuz I can no longer be in the “never heard of it” camp

[@crabtime2116]

I feel like this isn't exactly a list of overrated discs, but more of discs you think are not for beginners.

[@ChadSolberg]

THIS

[@reidausband9392]

Well, there's a lot of overlap there. You would think that discs that are touted as "The best" of their type would be accessible to all skill levels. So in a sense, when a disc is not beginner friendly, it is more prone to being overrated. IMO, at least

[@marcusdresback]

@@reidausband9392 that’s relative. “You would think”..who is *you* in this. If i’m seeing something as the best, it’s something that when thrown correctly, performs the best…if you want a list for beginners, no disc over a 7 speed would honestly be ranked, anywhere.

[@reidausband9392]

@@marcusdresback I did say at the beginning of the video that it is 100% subjective :)

[@marcusdresback]

@@reidausband9392 fair enough.

[@jordobordo5321]

I would have to agree with the firebird being overrated. Coming from a firebird thrower I would have to say this is a disc more towards your powerful forehand players. Not backhand I don’t nearly have enough power to throw this 350+ but as a 400ft power forehand thrower you couldn’t ask for a better forehand disc

[@nickbryant2318]

You have to have a big arm to throw a firebird. It's definitely made for pro level players, but appeals to everyone

[@FormerAmericanIdol]

Overrated... Couldn't ask for a better disc? 🤦

[@crabtime2116]

Firebirds themselves aren't overrated, but the sexton firebirds might be a tad.

[@chrisblair3081]

Id put rocs on there, far less comfy in hand than a buzzz and very runny. I bag a buzzz but find myself reaching for a meteor most mid shots :)

[@discnukem7774]

Totally agree. I'm always afraid to say it, but rocs feel terrible in my hand. My emac truths do the same thing without the uncomfortable bead and I can buy a truth off the shelf and know how it will fly.

[@TheScottishKayaker]

I would agree with you like five years ago but it feels like the hype train for the roc and really mid discs in general is waning especially with the huge rise in driving putters.

[@chrisblair3081]

@@TheScottishKayaker yeah hype is dieing or innova has flooded their own line up with mids, seems like they drop 3 or 4 new mid molds every year.

[@Jacob-ur4me]

It's preference. I prefer the feel of the roc over a buzz. They feel the same though.

[@Jacob-ur4me]

*do the same

[@mojo2781]

I bag 2 lunas, 3 destroyers, a berg and a firebird...😅

[@reidausband9392]

Dang we just about roasted your whole bag xD

[@Bfordandafter]

You are so overrated!!!!

[@mojo2781]

@@Bfordandafter oh no!

[@paulcarter1522]

Tell me you hate the resale market without telling me you hate the resale market… but props, this man knows how to work the KZbin algorithm.

[@mikebruni9881]

If I can make a Berg reach, I'm throwing a Berg.

[@coryy8792]

Subscribed because I did indeed get offended. Firebird hurt, but I do agree with what you said. The Envy is where you cut deep. The putter I learned to throw putters on and to this day will throw it over any midrange I own. Good video, jimmys thoroughly rustled

[@reidausband9392]

You should have said so, we would have rustled your jimmy’s months ago!

[@ssfctid22]

The Berg's perfect.

[@TitanSmashMTG]

I want to dislike for tarnishing the name of the Destroyer like this, but you're brave enough to make the video so I'll just go about my day. ;)

[@Khomanda]

destroyer is hyped because ricky bags like 10 of them lol

[@martins458]

There's nothing I love more than an old beat up star destroyer

[@ethanminiard6312]

I hate destroyers lol. It’s probably because I don’t have the arm speed/control for it. Butttttt I do have a friend that hasn’t been playing a year and can absolutely crush with em.

[@wakimura303]

It’s a distance driver so people just hate it because they suck, wraiths are too flippy for people with good arm speed

[@Uptempojetro]

@@wakimura303 GG Halo Wraiths are super stable.

[@marcusdresback]

are we speaking luna in terms of throwing, or putting? because putting, i’ve tried everything since i’ve started, every brand, every blend..i can’t find a better putting putter.

[@colton28383c]

A p2😉😂

[@marcusdresback]

@@colton28383c absolutely love p2’s as well! not very accessible nowadays tho sadly.

[@colton28383c]

@@marcusdresback lunas are just as hard IMO!

[@marcusdresback]

@@colton28383c Luckily for me, I stay by a relatively large Disc Golf spot, Hazy Shade in Dayton Ohio, who do a pretty good job of keeping that discraft premium plastic on hand, for the most part.

[@madmanotl]

Before watching the video, I thought of five right away and you listed four of them. I had Tilt and not Berg. Most players want to be like the pros, get drivers designed for professional players, struggle with them, then jump on a putter since they can throw them.

[@skarpengland]

Firebird is amazing! Yes, stupidly overstable, but its the only disc in my bag that i can mash on an anhyzer, it turns over a wee bit then just comes back and fades out for that perfect flex line. Also, if i only have a gap in the skies, and the fairway goes to my right, i can mash in on an anhyzer as well over the trees, and it will take me to the fairway again! NO disc in my bag can do that

[@poleshark368]

How dare you say that my Kastaplast Berg is overrated. It's "MY PRECIOUSSSSSSS". You are right about all the others but NOT the Berg; No sir. Love your content guys!!!!

[@NickVacca1]

I agree with you about the Berg. I’ve bagged it on a few different occasions and really tried to make myself like it… but I just didn’t. However, I disagree about the Destroyer. Just because a disc isn’t beginner friendly doesn’t make it overrated 😂

[@mcthompso]

Counterpoint: Everyone should have an Envy, and no matter how hyped it is, it can never be overrated.

[@ChayseGrizzell]

Any 13+ speed disc. 12 speed is as fast as anyone will ever need.

[@vincentvaneck3225]

Nuke ?

[@marcusdresback]

if you can’t pump a disc, just say that.

[@ChayseGrizzell]

@@marcusdresback okay hardass. I’m pretty sure the 5x world champ doesn’t carry anything higher than a 12 speed

[@ChayseGrizzell]

@@vincentvaneck3225 do you really need it tho? A Force or Zeus will basically do the same thing.

[@vincentvaneck3225]

@@ChayseGrizzell do u really need any disc? It’s preference and if u can use the disc well then use it

[@ddownham]

I think this list fits the description of "over-hyped" rather than "overrated". You said almost every disc is good or great. But there are some crazy fans of these specific molds, and I have three Bergs.

[@Bfordandafter]

Yep... overhyped makes more sense....

[@thed1scpl3spodcast]

Just so the record shows... I was an envy fan before the shot. Literally bought a new one 30 minutes before he threw it and I’m glad I did! 😂😂😂

[@paulfickinger4740]

Same i picked up the envy when James first moved to MVP.

[@thed1scpl3spodcast]

@@paulfickinger4740 Wise Choice 👍🏻😂

[@Dewinsta]

Being an MVP guy I would have replaced the envy for the zone on this list, but it’s hard to argue with the logic.

[@alirez426]

As someone who bags both I 100%agree with you there.

[@slimetime4668]

No way neither are overrated it’s the envy and atom have changed my game and I finally have putters I feel good about driving and throwing in general

[@FearTheWeird300]

Idk buzz is way more popular and the zone is better. Or at least more useful

[@Clydio]

@@FearTheWeird300 The zone doesn't match up with the envy. It's a tad bit more overstable. Try comparing the zone to an Entropy.

[@ghillie609]

I agree with the star destroyed to an extent. I have a Gstar destroyer which flys sooo good and I can get it to flip on hyzer and even turn slightly, but when I bought my socki bot star destroyer, it flys so damn over stable, I can't even use it. I just don't have the arm speed for it and it pains me because it's soo freaking beautiful 😭 good review man

[@rdonn7615]

My only destroyer I have played with is a Star Sockibot. I have a decent arm (350-400 max) and I can't get that thing to S at all. No matter how much ani I put on it, it starts hyzering out immediately. Feel like I need to give a different Destroyer a shot, but don't understand the hype with the one I got.

[@Jacob-ur4me]

Just re-title this disc's noobs shouldn't be throwing. Simple as that.

[@Khomanda]

envy is a solid noob choice though. my first favourite disc as a starter because it always did/still does what I want it too with no fuss.

[@stbw33]

Disagree, Berg was my first disc after a starter pack. As a 'noob' not reaching a lot of par 3's to putting range the Berg was used almost every hole and in my opinion is the best approach disc

[@TyCampbellTX]

So the Destroyer is overrated because you can't throw it correctly? lol I would define "overrated" differently. Half the list is overrated discs and the other half is a couple discs that aren't recommended for beginners.

[@tylerball9600]

I’ve played disc for 25 years…Destroyer is far and away the most overrated disc in my opinion. Destroyers come with an actual turn of -2 all the way to +1…the most inconsistent driver on the market.

[@TyCampbellTX]

@@tylerball9600 And yet I would say that is why so many people like them. You can carry several of them in your bag for the same feel in the hand with different flights

[@tylerball9600]

@@TyCampbellTX I disagree completely. While I understand different plastics should make a difference the runs of destroyers vary so greatly. I’ll never throw them again.

[@jwoellhof]

Basically they are overrated for newer players, but live up to the hype for advanced+ players. Change the name on your video to Top 5 Overrated Discs for Beginners, and you've hit the nail on the head.

[@brianlmoon]

The DD3 (esp cloud breaker) is over rated.

[@neongloom4570]

The Luna changed my whole putting game, it took me a long time to find the right one. I don't really pay attention to the lists and stuff, I just go off feel. When I first picked up a Luna at the local shop I knew it was the one. I was using a Fierce before, it was almost there, but the Luna really made it some together, I've been sinking puts I never would have dreamed about hitting. I have 5 of them now.

[@paytonstephens8936]

I have 10 and I love how putting with them they float so long. I too was in search for my perfect putter and same as you the Luna was it. Everything you said 100%

[@jasonsall5816]

The best part about “overrating” things is that they can still be overrated and be great

[@carlpledger8719]

well put

[@undeadarmy19]

As soon as I saw this title, the first disc that popped into my mind was the Innova Destroyer lol. Yes, it is a great disc, but the hype is ridiculous.

[@Imrightyourewrong1]

When in doubt, go Berg. Love that disc

[@BergNerd]

Used screen shot of this comment in latest vid. Berg on!

[@seangutermuth7515]

The berg is the greatest approach disc ever made. If you dont like it/think its overrated its merely bc you dont know how to throw it

[@brandonmackey2041]

Happy to see another disc golfer reppin the Gospel 💪

[@gingerwolf84]

BERG IS AMAZING!!!! Not even close to being overrated. The disc is for shots like that, approach and getting it close to the basket lol

[@Needled88]

Pretty accurate list, but i think ur very wrong with envy, before conrad victory, probably 90% of the disc golfers were not know about it, but it has been the best throwing putter for many pro players at least in my country. Keeps the line, hyzer, anhyzer, flies straight, doesnt get understable very easily, cheap against many other companies. If u bag envy, u dont nessecery need any other disc.

[@chrisrhome6638]

The Discmania Tilt is the most Overrated disc on the market.

[@navoditc]

LOL. So true. I love Simon and all but yes Tilt is massively overrated.

[@reidausband9392]

Wow not sure how I missed this one xD you're too right

[@marcusdresback]

I play with guys that bag tilts and are always trying to find ways to use them..and i’ve literally never seen them work out 😂 never. I think Casey threw that shot and simon being able to do magic with anything,including this, made people think they’re good utility disc.

[@hotmustardseed]

Of those, the only one I have is a Berg, and I dig it. Good content. Keep it coming.

[@sparedpenny]

I'm not sure you know what the word overrated means. This is the number one driver, this is the best throwing putter I bag 3. I'm very confused about what makes these overrated.

[@raidonbay]

I understand your comment. Although, I feel this vid is looking through the lense of "hype". (Fan crazed induced markup doesn't equal true value)

[@Judge_Jon]

In a nutshell here's what he says about the discs: "it's a good disc but they are rated higher than what it should be because most people bagging them can't get full potential out of them OR there are other options with almost the same flight but at a cheaper price." I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment of overrated...

[@pennxl]

I think the Tilt needs to be on the list, even tho it’s a lot of fun to throw. It’s ok I’ll take my beating and show myself out. lol. But fully agree with the list. Specially for beginners and most intermediate players.

[@Ali_2401]

I feel like the Tilt was pretty much made to be overrated. It’s practically a meme disc, but it has a legitimate purpose in everyone’s bag.

[@pennxl]

@@Ali_2401 oh I fully agree it has a spot, and is fun throw, but for what I’ve seen them selling for you’d think they guarantee an Ace with every throw. lol

[@mrclifton32]

Thank you for this lol. Should’ve put the buzzz on there.

[@forbes419123]

every mf had at least one 4x Star Destroyer in their bag at some point lmao

[@bigguyswagman4455]

this man knows algorithms right here

[@reidausband9392]

;)

[@sakucajan1386]

Here in finland pa3 is by far the most overrated disc. Väinö Mäkelä is everyones hero and he is god at using those things but at the end of the day pa3 is just a normal putter

[@Bfordandafter]

It is a great putter, but that makes sense over there.... and I say this being in the USA and owning a glow Pa3 with his name and an archer on the front.

[@kiisseli6759]

I have been putting with same luna over 1,5 years and it hasn't bended

[@NathanPrintz]

But Lunas go in every time? I bag three as well. I think the mystic that they have makes me more confident when putting with them. We all know that when you putt confidently, you putt better. I threw P model US until I was able to buy 5 Lunas at retail. Now, I don’t think I can go back:

[@johnkemp4898]

I love the way you talked about The Destroyer that was exactly me when you're ago I Googled for the most easiest driver to use and boom it's a destroyer I took it out through it for the first time and all I could do is get it to hook left 250 ft I got it stuck up on a roof and right then I knew I was not ready for no 12-speed I packed it down to 7 to a 9-speed and the berg it helped me learn the forehand I was all backhand it's the straightest and slowest disc for beginners so it's really good for a beginner I would suggest that disc to start off with then learn the speed up higher

[@robertberg7360]

I think this list was pretty good I also bag bergs but I think u comment about it was pretty spot on either u know what a berg is or u probably haven’t even heard of it but I just love how berg stays dead on and sits down better then my jaybreaker challengers did

[@connordeal3763]

The berg is a pretty good putting putter for beginners, it’s very easy to know where it will go and feels good in the hand, but there are just as good and better putters for even cheaper. The deputy was my first putter I really felt confident with and it’s amazing for throwing hyzer flips in the woods, and in prime plastic it only costs $10

[@1isone]

Don’t agree with the Berg… it’s a great approach disc and very good for what it’s intended to do, to stick on rocky surfaces. And great for putting in the wind, it just doesn’t care about wind at all. You literally don’t need another putter if you learn how to use it. It’s one of the few discs i truly think everybody should bag, and i’m not even crazy about like some are. My friend uses it for absolutely everything inside 100ft of the basket, even long puts. (Also i don’t agree with the stats either, it’s not as slow and un-glidy as it says, you can throw it pretty far and get good glide on it)

[@FishingWithAlexS]

So basically any disc that blows up the secondary market is overrated? 😂

[@mattmanguy]

Destroyer was my first distance driver, used for a couple years or so, bought 2 times, and almost never threw it well. It always turned over on its side, and I've since had other distance drivers I throw much better, like Firestorm and Majesty.

[@Don1970]

I do love the Berg for holding a line on backhand turnover and forehand anhyzer throws. And it settles pretty nicely when it hits the ground. The K1 plastic feels nice.

[@herculesplayinguitar]

Ive bagged the luna… totally agree. Its a good disc but no putter is alpha omega… no disc is really. I also bag a berg and firebird. Firebird is overrated but it works for me. Berg is a staple in my bag, it helps me in windy approaches and smooth flexlines in the woods!

[@ReluctantAardvark]

Don’t like the smooth feel of the Luna for throwing. Love it for putting. Numbers are whack.

[@dank6129]

If I could buy enough ts Lunas to last for my life, I'd be so happy. It is my favorite throwing putter. I don't care for the rubber blends for throwing much though.

[@chrisblair3081]

@@dank6129 which year TS luna you looking for?

[@dank6129]

@@chrisblair3081 these 2021 ones feel ridiculous. Sadly don't have the money to drop on more. First 4 throws with my purchase were, 150ft throw in, parked 235ft soft hyzer shot, parked 215 slight anny, 133ft throw in. The things are sick and feel better than any disc in my bag.

[@chrisreynolds35]

After 15 years disc golfing I’ve finally graduated into throwing Fire birds & destroyers. Finally able to throw them how I want.

[@MrMudEagle]

When I started, I was given a bunch of broken-in discs as a gift from a friend. Some of them are very flippy and understable. They were so much easier to throw from left to right. Now, I'm developing more power. I'm gravitating toward stable discs. I ended up buying new versions of the discs I already have. I'm taking them through the process of breaking in to find a sweet spot. You're right, disc preference is completely subjective. It's a never-ending process. I got a nice chuckle from this video. I know why you made it! Disc golfers are extremely superstitious creatures! These are my discs right now. 1. Champion Leopard. 2. Leopard3 3. Star Roadrunner 4. Buzz 5. Star Sidewinder 6. Frag by Doomsday Discs (crazy cool disc) 7. AvengerSS

[@jasonhopkins5569]

As a local pro, I can honestly say I do not bag any on the list. I have 2 discs in my bag over 9 speed. I'm no Calvin, Ricky, Paul, or GG. I can't get a high speed much further than my fairways and I sacrafice accuracy when trying. So slow and smooth works for me. Tesla, Thunderbird, Crave, TL3 can carve up most courses.

[@ToddsDiscGolf]

I’m a total beginner and tried the firebird for the first time while I was doing field work earlier, hated the way it flew for me and my slow arm speed. Just immediately dumped to the left, ended up 246. I don’t see me being able to use that for a long long time. I think I’ll stick to (understable) 8 speeds and below for awhile.

[@ndndiscgolf779]

I say the number one would be the cloud breaker or dd3 .

[@TheNthomas1999]

Booo this comment

[@Cratonymous]

Must have too many viewers subscribing to throw out things like "firebirds are overrated." RIP subscription count.

[@SwankyDiscGolf]

😂

[@krustyrustie]

Love the berg.... and really love the shirt!!

[@josephmcgowan4436]

Jokes on you I don't carry a Bag😂😂

[@discgolfteacher]

Love the shirt! And the content.. I'll subscribe!

[@teukka623]

I’ve never liked lunas as throwing putters but i have never putted with a better feeling putter than luna

[@slimetime4668]

I loved mine and somehow it disappeared must have fell out of my bag, but I putt with a roach now cause lunas are too hard to get

[@Derek_1111]

Lol so many dislikes from the offended haha. I myself use a Luna for putting and for many upshots. The only reason why I'd say it's "overrated" is because of how damn impossible it is to find and how expensive they are if you can find them. If I had known they'd be impossible to buy I would had bought 10 of them when I had the chance. So yeah that's my only gripe is the availability/expense of them. I love the grip/feel in my hand. But it's looking like I'm going to have to switch to a different putter because I can't find them. I was using a Challenger for putting and I have a stack of them for putting practice. I've only managed to find 2 Lunas. So when I practice putting I'm throwing 6 Challengers and 2 Lunas yet I putt with the Luna during rounds and don't even bag the Challengers for rounds. Would love to have a stack of Luna's for putting practice.

[@micahjones8315]

totally agree, also the fact that the destroyer has to be the most inconsistent disc of all time when it comes to stability

[@endebtedone]

No Trilogy discs. I traded some Innova KC Pro Aviar's for Luna's and am kind of regretting it because I either don't throw them correctly or they just aren't a good fit for me. I keep trying to figure them out but keep failing to master them. It sucks because I have a buddy who throws it and is great with it. I bought a used Star Destroyer when I got into the game and can throw it decent along with the rest of my other distant drivers and sadly none of them are in my daily bag. My main drivers are the Anax and Scorch and then Raptors and Heat. I dont have the technique and touch for high speed drivers yet. One day I hope to be able to throw distance drivers but not today. Great video!!!

[@TheBrinkofDiscGolf]

Love the video. I never heard of the berg untill my buddy introduced me to it. Aaaaannnnnddd it went straight into the cart. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 But like you said. There is NO in-between for that disc.

[@davisbrooks2]

Bro you should’ve put the aviar in there. It’s such a bad disc but everyone has one

[@levislens776]

Why is it a bad disc?

[@ChadSolberg]

@@levislens776 because it is bad...

[@levislens776]

@@ChadSolberg So do either of you even have a reason as to why you dislike it?

[@davisbrooks2]

@@levislens776 the standard DX plastic that everyone gets is bad. The hype doesn’t match up to the use. The hand feel is awful. I mean that’s why Juliana Korver has her own mold of the aviar in a different plastic. She specifically said that when Dave handed her the aviar and told her to put with it she said no this won’t do.

[@chrisblair3081]

I hate beads myself

[@zacharyramirez652]

I’m starting to think you guys are secretly discmania sponsored. No way none of those signature series are not on this list.

[@reidausband9392]

SOOO true lol we could have put the entire company in this video xD

[@kolhorton3503]

The berg has a very specific space in my bag, if it’s a down hill or ob long upshot from and I specify 110’ to 60’ it gives you the confidence to run the throw but it will not go long it just sits insane I don’t understand it I’ve tried to replace it but the k3 on the types of courses I play in arizona with hard ground it grips up or goes in half the time, I love it can’t seem to find a reason to take it out of my bag cuz when I need it it’s there, would not recommend switch to it as a circle one putter though it has many issues in the 30’ category

[@austinjordan2]

1- I completely agree with you. I am a finesse forehand player and the amount of times I have heard people tell other people if you want to learn a forehand buy a firebird. Those people are dumb and have trash forehands 10 times out of 10. 2- Never thrown an Envy buy I feel like if I did it would be one of my favorite discs from what I have heard about it. 3- The berg is literally the best approach disc for forehands (without wind) and I will die on this hill!!! 4- The Wraith is better. 5- If I could afford to throw Luna's I would throw them because they fly amazingly.

[@travisyeggy4273]

The Wraith is the most consistent disc in my bag. I got a halo version and it's not quite the same but I'm starting to figure it out

[@marks9444]

I thought of the Firebird instantly when I saw the video title.

[@TherealPapaDogP]

This is so spot on. With the Berg, I find that people love to dye them. But the Firebird is definitely over hyped, as a thrower and as a collectible. I have three of them, two are Sextons. I bag one but I use it so little that it’s still practically 9/10. Destroyers are certainly not for most beginners. An Eagle is a better choice. It has the same turn and fade, and will probably go further.

[@bobfreddy4473]

bruh eagles do not go further than destroyers. If you can't handle a destroyer, use a leopard3 or understable distance driver

[@TherealPapaDogP]

@@bobfreddy4473 Yes. In theory. But I’m referring to the average beginner. They would get more benefit and probably more distance with something slower. If we are just talking over-stability, and hook finishes the Eagle will do that. For distance, yeah, a beginner should stick with a leopard.

[@TherealPapaDogP]

@@bobfreddy4473 I don’t like destroyers. I prefer the wraith. And distance isn’t that important to me for the courses that I play on. Everything is 400’ or less, all par 3. Throwing mid ranges and putters.

[@axeslinger44]

Love my Eagle! Can’t throw a Destroyer for the life of me.

[@TherealPapaDogP]

@@axeslinger44 I have a few, and while I can get them out to 330-340’, I don’t like the feel a whole lot.

[@jjw6961]

These are just bad hot takes rather than actual overrated discs. You list the cons for the Berg as "no glide and slow" and those are two of the main reasons why so many people dig it; it's difficult to juice it past the basket on approaches and it won't skip and/or hit the ground and roll. I'd agree that the stock Firebird is overrated, but the Sexton Firebird is an objectively different mold and can't really be grouped in with the stock Firebird as unusable; one big reason why it's so popular is because there really aren't a whole lot of other molds that fill the same spot as a Sexybird (IMO the most similar discs are the Stal and Raptor) while almost every manufacturer has their own stupidly OS disc that's on par with the stock Firebird. In regards to the Destroyer, it's literally the best selling disc year after year and every other manufacturer has imitated it. Sure, tons of players go out and buy them only to realize they can't throw them well, but that doesn't mean they don't fly great for those who actually can throw them. Lastly, the Luna is the same deal as the Destroyer; it's become a stupid popular putter because it has Paul's name on it, but it's not a garbage putter. The special blend rubber plastic feels great and offers something unique compared to other putters; in a game where your putting putter really only needs to feel good in your hand and make you confident, it checks all the boxes for subjective criteria. When I think of overrated discs I think of almost every Paul McBeth disc except the Luna; the Malta, Anax, Hades, Zeus are all tweaked versions of already popular molds and all sell very well because they say McBeth on them. Not terrible molds, but none of them are all that unique compared to offerings from other manufacturers (and some actually within Discraft's lineup itself). I get this type of video is supposed to generate outrage which in turn generates clicks/views, but try harder next time instead of just copying and pasting a handful of discs from the top sellers list of the year and claiming their overrated.

[@benistoneman9737]

I got a ton of envy’s bought a few months ago. Very inconsistent totally willing to get rid of them. This is an awesome video

[@lilcha85]

I would give the Glow model a try. Very beefy and stable, tough to turn over and it just goes!

[@SebM72]

I bag three of these discs and don't see them leaving the bag anytime soon. 😂

[@tobi12211]

I don't get why people are disliking the video. It is a subjective video, how offended do people get xd

[@ccdrummer]

Agree: -Envy -Berg -Luna (I love it and bag it too. But it’s overrated, I agree). Disagree: -Firebird. I’ve had a flat-top champ for 6 yrs and it hasn’t lost an ounce of stability. -Destroyer. I’ve tried the copies (Zeus, DD3, etc) and they aren’t as comfortable, nor do they fly as far. To be fair, your critiques of Firebird and Destroyer are that they aren’t good for beginners/intermediates. But I don’t think that should count as a credible critique.

[@godzilla2721]

When I first saw this video tag, I immediately said Destroyer. Good video as usual

[@godzilla2721]

Btw, when did you guys shoot this? I might of just missed you as I played there twice this past weekend

[@reidausband9392]

@@godzilla2721 filmed last week! Friday, I think!

[@godzilla2721]

@@reidausband9392 I just missed you guys then. Keep doing your thing and having fun

[@grahambaskin]

Are you upset at the collectors market (the reason they're so hype), or at players thinking they're too awesome?