I agree with those for sure. I'd add: rear ABS resets every time you turn the key on and off, weak factory handguards (your sw-motech look great), windshield adjuster should be one handed.
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Ah yes, the windshield one handed for sure 👍
@UncleWally3Ай бұрын
Each of the five “complaints” is not only warranted, it’s baffling a company like Honda has allowed these issues to fall through the cracks. I’ll add another, more of a quibble than a complaint: Offering a relatively expensive bike in one color/graphic configuration is just wonky marketing. Don’t need a full spectrum of fancy colors but heck . . . at least subtle or not so subtle wouldn’t hurt.
@TheAnnoyingBoss15 күн бұрын
Listen the paint job matters. If the colors are crap the bikes dont sell its that simple. The better a company is at making their bikes not ugly is a big deal. Same with ease of maintinance.
@Roadrash.750Ай бұрын
I personally like that the switchgear isn’t lit. I don’t like any additional light, especially on a night. I mean who looks down at your switchgear when riding anyway? And the heat off the fans, in Britain we like this 90% of the year 😅
@alexandrusavu2100Ай бұрын
18000$ bike...is like 21.5k in europe :)) and still not got a qshifter and stuff :)))
@aleksanderknavs3724Ай бұрын
No center stand as standard🙁
@terrystratford1235Ай бұрын
Keeps the weight down! Yet, it's a must have!!
@georgediakodimitris4805Ай бұрын
@@terrystratford1235 I think that what interests Ηonda is simply the profit ... to charge it extra....
@terrystratford1235Ай бұрын
@georgediakodimitris4805 any company with share holders is all about profit! I bought a 2021 crf1100L dct in 2023 for 12k. I have put another 5k into her! Denali lights, sargent seat, altrider and touratech goodies! All to make her the proper bike I had in my mind! Now if Honda did the same, the quality of the parts may not be the best, like bmw crash bars(they bend)! I'm very happy with my bike, she will last me to retirement!
@anthonytyler476723 күн бұрын
Bike prices are stupid high anymore and I’m too of it without the fee standard options.
@windinthewillows6248Ай бұрын
The lower deflectors I have on my 2024 standard bike are fitted to the rear portion of the radiator tank area. We haven’t had any really hot days in the UK so far, but I also can say I’ve never notice my legs getting hot. Have another look at the Honda lower deflectors, they may make a difference for you. What I wish Honda changed with my bike, the cruise only works 30mph and above, in 4th gear or higher. This is odd compared to many other manufacturers, which work at 20 mph and above, and in lower gears. Here in the UK, our speed limits range from 20, 30, 40, 50, 60 and 70 mph, I use the cruise to keep me legal in the lower speed limits, if road conditions allow. What would be very useful, as fitted to most cars these days, is a changeable speed limiter, so you can set to any specific speed, say as an example, if your in a 20 mph limit, and then concentrate on looking at the road and hazards, and not having to be fixated on the speed. Backlit handle bar buttons definitely. Adaptive cruise please. Centre stand as standard.
@Sasquatch_by_Day-nv3yhАй бұрын
I would take a centre stand as standard over a quick shifter any day of the week.
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
The lower deflectors are behind the vent?
@bmo2756Ай бұрын
@@adventureundone they are behind, not in front of the radiator. I don't have them yet, but I'm 1000% sure of it. Honda's videos show them behind, as. So do the pictures on Honda
@jonathann5508Ай бұрын
Please do a review of the seat concepts when you’ve installed and gotten some use with it - thanks!
@DC-zp2iq25 күн бұрын
i have a 2023 ATAS which is nice, but cannot tolerate the seat, after an 1.5 hour of riding it starts getting uncomfortable to the point of shifting my butt to the back seat, very frustrating this makes the ride not as enjoyable as it should be, i thought about getting a different seat but hesitant to play that game (crap shoot ) finding the right seat. I was looking for an adventure bike that could be pleasurable on long ride and found disappointment instead, i had the chance to try a BMW R1250 GS, and oh my gosh what a bike the comfort was like day and night, my Africa is now for sale.
@Turbulaence14 күн бұрын
Salut de France 😊 J'entends dire parfois que l'africa twin consomme beaucoup d'huile, qu'en penses-tu ? Et d'une manière générale, la fiabilité de cette moto ? Merci !
@brisprott2451Ай бұрын
I was looking at swapping in my GSA for one of these. As you say, QS extra/Centre stand extra/ dongle needed for wireless carplay/ no hill hold assist/ heated seat option. It just seemed to me it wasnt quite there with the current competitors. I know they have just updated it but I get the feeling there may be major changes ahead. I think the display needs updating too. Still the best looking ADV in my opinion though
@Corey-pd3miАй бұрын
Complaining about something being standard is non-sensical, if they made it standard they would simply have to increase the price, then people who don’t want it are paying extra
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Stacked up to competition some should be standard
@Corey-pd3miАй бұрын
@@adventureundone it would just increase the base price, it’s available as an option for those that want it. You seem to think that included as standard means getting something for free, it doesn’t work that way
@BP-id4cqАй бұрын
Good points to be brought to the surface. On a different note, I would like to know what type of crash bars, hand guards, protection in other words you are going to add to the bike. I just bought the Base model and so far I love the bike but I'm use to all of the Tech gadgets yet. Thanks for the video.
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Video coming on that topic very soon 👍
@GlowBright33318 күн бұрын
I like the bronze forks. It's a color transition from the wheel to the frame. If they were the gold color, then the whole front wheel assembly would look like it was stuck on. And, they would need to pick up that gold color on the frame somewhere to integrate. There are already 5 colors on the frame. If you want to change something, then the wheels could be black or dark blue. But really, it's a smart color scheme overall. I would keep it as is.
@toltodАй бұрын
Suzuki has the quickshifter on both 800/1050
@TheAnnoyingBoss15 күн бұрын
If only they werent ugly lookin like when the graphics glitch in a videogame
@robj.m.straathof934113 күн бұрын
Slope forwards. Thats because you have it on the low mode. Put it in the high mode and that feeling is gone. Simple. Worked with me.
@adventureundone12 күн бұрын
still had the forward slope in high position for me.
@miglecina22 күн бұрын
The main issue is Honda doesn´t offer the 19-inch in the standard model. I do not need extra kilograms or extra $$$ for some tech is not a must. Come on HOnda listen to your buyers
@JuNe-uk6iv26 күн бұрын
i been riding transalp for this summer now and that bike does not have the heat issue. weird that the more expencive has it.
@TheAnnoyingBoss15 күн бұрын
The airfilter location on an offroad bike doesnt make sense to me. Id like a transalp if if also had the air filters in the sides so i can replace with new and not have to take the tank off. The indiam scout i figure its nit as bad because its a road bike if im in a dirt road for miles and miles and miles behind people it sucks to have to take the tank off to pop new air filters in.
@StofftiereLindner15 күн бұрын
I agree, but I love the blue fender 😊
@moomoodeadcow24 күн бұрын
The stock header is titanium?
@user-mz5pp7zf3b6 күн бұрын
Have to agree poor colour options where's a nice shiny black or metallic silver also wind protection on BMW 900 GSA far better.
@jeffbanfieldsflwr3537Ай бұрын
I would have to agree with all of these. I have the DCT version, so the quick shifter doesn't apply to me. I wish they sold a set of crash bars.
@billking8736Ай бұрын
In the low position what is the seat height fully laden? I have a 30 inch inseam and was wondering if I could flat foot the 2024.
@1jodlar26 күн бұрын
I agree with quick shifter...should be on every manual Africa. The second thing is Tft. There is no bike,that you have to wait so long to turn on. Even Transalp turns right away. I hope they fix that. Also wheelie off an traction control,should stay in mode you select after you turn off and on. Damn Honda!!!😉
@rafalinski555Ай бұрын
Im just checking config of ATAS 2024 and it looks like here in Europe this bike in manual comes with quickshifter
@user-dv7hb2sc9mАй бұрын
Proof that the manufacturer's do more than read our comments, they have huge amounts of data about all bikes built, how many, and of what type. They know way more than we can fathom & the proof is in all the different offerings for bikes. INTENT is one of the biggest questions we must make to buy the right bike for us but the great thing is that no matter what bike you pick, you can get all the aftermarket parts you could need to meet the intent for your bike. Once you define the intent for any bike, you're ready to get the right parts to accomplish the type of riding you envisioned. I'm learning that any old bike can be your unicorn. Any Bike! And I've just realized this here -n- now....... thanks man, once you have the intent for the bike, the parts can make her work out. Use a little common sense but any bike can do it for you, within reason. peace man
@MrGolden28473Ай бұрын
Could you do a your thoughs shootout of the 2024 twin vs trans?
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Yea
@terrystratford1235Ай бұрын
For the ££££ you could get a 2020 mint low mileage goldwing tour dct.....with centre stand and backlit buttons!!
@drewhbendАй бұрын
love my 24 ATAS DCT, I really like the colors all around but get it. For sure upgraded to real handguards ( Barkbusters) and real skid plate ( outback ) The controls are intuitive once you ride a bit but backlight???? YES PLEASE!!!!!
@larrylund113827 күн бұрын
Even the much less expensive Transalp has a quick shifter
@adventureundone25 күн бұрын
yeah, weird
@1PercentRealtyVIАй бұрын
How’s the power vs your 890 O tiger ?
@JubellyАй бұрын
I have a 23 ATAS with lower deflectors installed behind the fan. Its an original honda part. Can't you get this on the 24 model? I've never felt any heat
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
@@Jubelly I’m going to look into this
@josephthornton8560Ай бұрын
SMDSR- boosting your algorithm, as usual lol.
@abubakarhussein5197Ай бұрын
How is the front 19" + reduced suspension perform offroad if you compare with 2023 Adventure sport?
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Video coming soon on that
@chrissmalley2084Ай бұрын
@@adventureundoneyes I’d love to see this in addition to the comparison to the Tiger 900 off-road please!!
@trd4dАй бұрын
Worst thing about the bike is the price
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Pricey for sure, but many bikes in this class are
@TheAnnoyingBoss15 күн бұрын
Honda knows thats shy they created a scuffed version the transalp.
@donbraham411Ай бұрын
Like to hear it on the open road
@spriga1410Ай бұрын
OK button on starting screen😢
@agprimeАй бұрын
Give it to me then.
@pedronodog1781Ай бұрын
No problems with hot legs in Scotland.......
@silveriojohanАй бұрын
Hate brakes(not impressive) and seat(damn hard) in my 23 atas adv es manual...
@amilnoodeling964Ай бұрын
Wireless apple CarPlay
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
Ahhh good one 👍
@MotorcycleMayhem595Ай бұрын
It's touring bike for sure. I am not sure I am going to keep my 2021 adventure sports es.
@TheFbiFilesRepeatАй бұрын
What would you buy instead?
@MotorcycleMayhem595Ай бұрын
@@TheFbiFilesRepeat Suzuki GSX-S1000GT
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
@@MotorcycleMayhem595a nice bike for sure, also a Yamaha tracer 9
@Sasquatch_by_Day-nv3yhАй бұрын
How is it nobody has mentioned the fact that if you try to ride with the balls of your feet on the footpegs there simply isn't enough room on the right side due to the exhaust being in the way?? It's not like I have giant feet (11) but it isn't even close, I would need at least 2" more space for my foot to fit. Do all of the other riders of this bike have tiny feet? That's my biggest gripe with the bike so far, that and the brakes are acceptable but not great by any stretch. To me those are far bigger issues than having a quick shifter (don't care) or matching forks & wheels (barely care).
@hovishill2779Ай бұрын
Agree, there’s not a huge amount of space, (I have size 10 and I have enough room). The brakes are lacking in power a bit, I likely try some better pads when they need changing.
@Sasquatch_by_Day-nv3yhАй бұрын
@@hovishill2779 Your size 10 fits? I wouldn't have thought so but I suppose boot choice may play a role in it as well. I like to trail brake a fair bit when in the twisties, I find the back brake particularly weak. Definitely some better pads are in order upon changing.
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
I notice that as well, but it was the same on my 22’ so I think I’m just use to it.
@smokybear456Ай бұрын
It’s morphing into the nt1100
@adventureundoneАй бұрын
I was thinking the same 😂
@steadyeddy-goingnowhereslowlyАй бұрын
All valid points. Mind boggling how those jappers cant see this 🙈
@razorwired13022 күн бұрын
+Shaft Drive
@TheAnnoyingBoss15 күн бұрын
We need to do better with final drives i just hate chain drives so much