Top 5 Worst Moves By Survivor Winners

Counting down and discussing what I believe are the top 5 worst moves by Survivor winners up to this point.
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[@samwells218]

Worst moves that directly lost people the game

[@denistuohy2535]

Sam Wells Tyson not voting for Russell in HvV.

[@NYChica23]

I'm gonna get ready for the pitchforks, because I know she's got a lot of fans here, and this is bound to be a hot take, but I'm ready for it...Parvati not telling Russell about her second immunity idol. Now hear me out here...by Parvati hiding the idol from everyone except Danielle, that gave the already paranoid/impulsive Russell an excellent reason to vote Danielle out so Parvati would lose her number one ally, and Jerri, who was probably the only villain who benefited from that vote, because it moved her one step higher on the pecking order, was all too willing to go along with that plan. Downside for Parvati was that once Danielle was voted out, she'd already run out of people she could beat in the end, because it's a very good bet that either Rupert or Colby win if they manage to get to the end, Jerri was surprisingly UTR enough that she stood a decent chance of winning the jury votes, and by that point, I think Parvati had started to figure out that this was gonna turn into a very pro-Sandra jury if she reached the end

[@elliehughes182]

Woo taking Tony to the end instead of Kass

[@wyattoleff5278]

Lex keeping amber over jerri in all stars, basically something he could NEVER come back from, unlike if he let Jerri stay, tried to sway Big Tom to his side, and likely won the game.

[@NYChica23]

@@wyattoleff5278 It wasn't just Lex's dumb mistake...Kathy was the one who talked him into keeping Amber, so let's also throw some of that blame her way

[@nipiipin5649]

The thing with tyson is that because that was a redemption island season, tyson was fairly confident he would be able too come baclk in the game

[@bigbuffguy9589]

That's true, but I think Peridiam is still right because I wouldn't want to take on Laura Morett in any kind of challenge. Sure, she actually lost to Tina, but Laura is one of the best Redemption Island players ever. Tyson should have just played the idol when he saw what a mess that Monica and especially Gervase were making in that tribal council and how persuasive Hayden was.

[@petermcgill3405]

True, but redemption island ended with four people in the main game so the returner would be the fifth Most likely Monica or Gervase would get voted out after Tyson, so even if Tyson came back, he would be down in numbers 3-2 and an easy vote if Hayden can beat him in either of the last two challenges.

[@dannymusic]

Good list, I never thought about #5 before but it totally makes sense once you explain the situation.

[@IznelW]

I agree... I've always been like "wow he's got balls", but now it's like "wow he didn't need balls"

[@saritand99]

dannymusic is

[@great_expectations202]

tyson thought ciera was with him though and didn't think it was gonna go to rocks, he thought Haydunn was gonna get voted out 4-2. you cant play your idol once you start pulling for rocks. at least i don't think you can.

[@jatinchauhan6702]

I mean it was not totally a bad move. If he had played the idol and assuming Katie still goes to RI and Laura would have given the clue to new idol to Ciera and then she and Hayden would found it and since Ciera wins the next immunity challenge Hayden would have played the idol on himself and ultimately led to Tyson going home

[@zoevanthof3414]

It’s not technically the final six though because either Tina or Laura were basically coming back in the game, maybe Tyson if he picked the rock because of Redemption, so he’s in the game with two more final fives with huge threats or chances it in redemption, i don’t know what happens to idols in redemption

[@D_SQ]

You know, Jeff should have helped Mike finish that move. I truly believe the reason Mike went back on his move, is because it seemed like Jeff in the midst of the chaos (Because he too was caught off guard in light of just how out of left field and awesome that move was) seemed willing to accept items that were already sold back. Because Carolyn seeing Mike had turned back not buying the letter, freaked out and said, I'll take my letter back if Mike is not buying a letter like we have agreed. I honestly had applauded during that shot of Mike turning back to go and sit with his $500 because I thought it was such a mafia 'Boston Rob' type move. I watched it several times, I thought it was that brilliant. Jeff should have stepped in to say 'Goods once sold, will not be accepted back.' and I think Mike would have stuck the move.

[@lilstojda]

At least he shouldn't have said "Mike, you don't want your letter?...". I mean it wasn't his duty to tell everyone Mike didn't buy his letter. If they noticed it good for them and if they didn't notice they should have paid attention. However Jeff acted like a snitch to me.

[@D_SQ]

Or that. Good Point. Although Jeff likes to throw in some commentary on significant moments in the game, like in challenges for dramatic effect. Maybe this was one of those moments where he really wanted to highlight that Mike wasn't going to take his letter.

[@wherethetatosat]

Yup. I don't fully remember the order of everything that happened that season. But I do remember thinking, Mike has the willpower to forego a letter from a loved one. He *earned* that advantage.

[@TheBBallEnthusiast]

I absolutely agree. I thought it was unfair that Carolyn was able to give back her letter. How come Trish couldn't give back her rice and water that she got at the auction, or Brenda and the cow brain, or Shambo and the sea slug guts? But to play Devil's advocate, Jeff did say that he was extremely shocked that Mike didn't take the letters. Honestly it was a very good move and clearly no one held it against him that he considered it.

[@jaredmitchener9175]

Mike is the greatest one time player, one time winner ever. I also applauded the move. Survivor isn’t real life. Everyone in Worlds Apart that played with emotions lost. Kudos to Mike

[@Arkaine197]

I agree wholeheartedly with the number one choice, even though I really liked Mike, however that being said I really don't know if he still wins without making that fuckup. His votes at final tribal were mostly picked up through people's respect for the mega hard game he had to play to get there and he was still able to pick up Dan's vote with a heartfelt apology. A lot of the really cool moves he made like threatening to save Shireen with his idol and forcing the main alliance to fracture wouldn't happened if he'd not torpedoed himself at that auction, his game would have been a lot safer sure, but a lot more boring and a lot less impressive, I really think that despite being as dumb as it was, that move is the defining moment that put him down the path to claiming his winners seat.

[@nongcik5835]

what about Tony yelling f5!!! in survivor caygayan

[@xgfhsdssgfhs7576]

That's what I'm looking for!

[@deathfire12]

God that was such a dumb move.

[@kevneedbev]

Desufire how? He still won

[@deathfire12]

​@@kevneedbev Is that relevant? This is worst moves made by winners, of course they all still won. Still makes it a dumb move

[@kevneedbev]

Desufire yea I didnt watch the full video when he explained that it was from their winning seasons. I see how it was pretty stupid

[@eagerturtle4791]

Also with Tyson, I think he slayed king Aras a few rounds too early. At the final 7, Tyson allowed there to be 4 loved one players vs the 3 returnees. If the loved ones got together one round earlier, they could have easily taken Gervase or Monica out (considering Tyson played an idol at final 7). Obviously it didn't end up mattering, but that was another huge and unnecessary risk that Tyson took.

[@central1354]

Eager Turtle Ciera should’ve told Tyson she’ll vote his way if he plays an idol on her, Tyson plays the idol on her, she flips, Then Tyson and Katie draw rocks and Tyson had a 50:50 chance of going home

[@loganroy3381]

@@central1354 He would never fall for that.

[@marycheck6584]

I love ur channel Eager Turtle

[@stormcrow1685]

Eager Turtle *when a survivor KZbinr comments on another survivor youtuber’s video*

[@bigbuffguy9589]

True. Tyson got lucky that Ciera didn't realize she was fourth until the next round (also, I think Tyson gets blindsided at that vote if Ciera is on board--the only reason he played his idol was because Ciera tipped him off that Hayden/Caleb were coming for him).

[@lucasmarinho1096]

Top 5 most underrated winners

[@samthesnowman666]

Agreed Adam had a flawless end game he talked about it all the time and he is right

[@brennaoconnor1615]

Natalie White Danni Chris Earl Vecepia

[@aidancharde2056]

Or top 5 most overrated winners (mine would be cochrane, hatch, sandra #2, tony, and tyson)

[@JuliaTheTransPeacock]

1. Chris (Vanuatu) 2. Danni (Guatemala) 3. Earl (Fiji) 4. Vecepia (Marquesas) 5. Ethan (Africa)

[@200mccsa]

Natalie White Sophie Clarke Michele Fitzgerald Danni Boatwright And maybe Sandra #2, though Game Changers has perhaps already led to a re-evaluation. So possibly Chris Daugherty instead.

[@mikeifrun6231]

Had Mike successfully gotten the advantage, he would've lost. It was more of an accidental winning move

[@ranker_83]

“…I don’t expect there to be a move worse than this for the remainder of the show” Survivor 38 enters chat

[@justinbrinson7108]

I forgot that a old version of Bill Nye the science guy won survivor!

[@youngkiller3618]

My young apprentice it's an not a

[@camgrivas2262]

You make some of the best Survivor vids on KZbin, keep it up :)

[@Peridiam]

Thanks!

[@KaramjanTriangle]

Who else makes videos these good on survivor? I love watching these :D

[@MrSonicspeed59]

Are we just gonna ignore the fact that Adam also had an idol during his rock draw and didn’t play it

[@redturtle234xd5]

Avi Scheinberg that would expand the already large target he had on his back

[@bigbuffguy9589]

That's true, but I think the circumstances that led up to that were harder to predict than in Blood v Water. With the way that tribal council was going, Tyson should have been able to figure out that the risk of Ciera flipping was very high. Hell, he had just played an idol at the previous vote because he was worried about a small chance that Hayden and Caleb might have the numbers on him.

[@pilarowen3095]

“Talking about only the seasons they won, sorry jt” lol 😂

[@KrowFPS]

I thought Tony's attempt to have a secret Final 3 deal with Cass deserves to be on here. It felt obvious from the start that there was no way Cass would seriously consider it and she was going to tell whoever would listen. If Woo wasn't...well Woo, this could have seriously damaged his game. Tony's blowup (though iconic) didn't look good for him either.

[@aidancharde2056]

I want to see an episode where you pitch a season of survivor (where it's all returning players), describe the theme, the players and why you chose them, the twists, etc. For instance, I'd love to see a season of returning players where one tribe is players who were voted off first versus players who won. I won't go into it all here because that would be too long, but something like that would be cool.

[@Peridiam]

Survivor: Blood vs. Water, except it's only loved ones competing, no returning players. But no really, one day I'll draft up some theme ideas.

[@Aplusmaster22]

The second I saw JT in the thumbnail I knew this would be good.

[@kylemccartney4843]

Mike did make a bad move but literally was such a badass that it didn't matter lol

[@chancewatkins5597]

Personally I have a place in my heart for Bob cause this was my first season but I agree with this. Bob was a very big underdog tho. I’m glad he won. Personally I love Gabon

[@GeoGuy388]

Bob's fake idol to Randy wasn't a bad move at all. Sugar held all the cards at that point and she basically held a gun to his head and made him do it. It served its intended purpose because Sugar was the sole reason he made the finals instead of Matty. Randy voted for him to win anyway, so the calculated risk was definitely worth it. Otherwise, can't argue with your list. Really enjoyed the breakdown of Tyson's non-play of the idol. I feel like an honorable mention should go to one of my favorite winners and best players ever: Sandra. During the Rupert vote in Pearl Islands, she completely misreads the vote that night and throws a vote away. If Lill had voted with the Drake alliance at that Tribal, then Sandra unwittingly knocked out her ally in a 4-3-1 vote.

[@elisabethutami6651]

aand Adam did it again in season 40 lol

[@juniper665]

To be fair in Tyson's defense. I think he really believed in Ciera not going to flip. Probably still going through the talks of tribal, Ciera wasnt really giving anything to correlate that she would flip so Tyson probably felt unknowingly comfortable. Theres always the thing of "yeah but he could have calculated ahead of time" but really when your at tribal its hard to analyze what will ultimately happen since this is pre game changers and no one is running around the tribal set getting answers.

[@willbrock1962]

bob absolutely could have gone home had he not struck a deal with sugar to give his fake idol to Randy. He did it to save himself. He was also able to manipulate Sugar into voting his way at the final four. Are you entirely sure his game was so unstrategic?

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

Sugar was an emotional player it was easy to manipulate her let’s be real here

[@matthewplotnick750]

7:21 Who sees that creepy face in the left part of the screen?

[@LeonardoOliveira-sq4ie]

Me wtf

[@bobgray6498]

Tbh, Mike's whole game was deserving of spots on this list. His game play was pretty bad for a winner lol

[@ShadeXH]

In Tyson's defense, not playing his idol there allowed him to save it and ensure his ideal final 3.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

The idol is no good if he gets rocked out. Peridiam is right. It's just way too risky.

[@ZackieLovesSalad]

0:58 Are you talking about the time when J.T gave the idol to Russell in Heroes Vs. Villains?

[@juti9512]

Not just that. He did a lot more to. This was the worst though

[@ZackieLovesSalad]

@@juti9512 I'm not the biggest Survivor fan, so if u could tell me what he did, that'll be cool

[@juti9512]

There were three other mistakes JT made. 1. In heroes vs villains he got rid of Cirie. Big mistake. Cirie was the strategic person the Heroes needed. 2. In survivor Game Changers he told Tai to play his idol. However Tai didn't play it for himself. Tai played it for the person that he and the majority voted for. This sent one of his biggest allies home Malcolm. If JT didn't tell Tai to play his idol than it would be all good. 3. Not all hope was gone for JT, JT had an idol. But right after the tribal council that Malcolm went home JT screwed up again. JT was dumb enough to think he had enough votes to send Michaela home. That was not the case. He should have played his idol instead he went home with an idol in his pocket.

[@ZackieLovesSalad]

@@juti9512 Cirie WAS good when it came to plans, but that was kinda it. Along with Sugar, she was trash at challenges

[@reginamachamer821]

Man I always forget how close that gross food challenge was between Cochran and Malcolm. I am the pickiest eater ever like I swear I have some kind of weird food phobia.. but there is something very attractive to me about a person being able to scarf down gross food like it's nothing 😂 men or women.. it's attractive to me.

[@vitorsalvattore]

I always thought that Tyson no playing his idol was one of the greatest dumbass moves, imagine being voted out by a rock knowing you had an idol that could save you? He won that season by lucky, he did a lot of bad moves that entire season, but somehow he got lucky and won.

[@savaiisurvivor9729]

You just got a new subscriber!

[@NYChica23]

I'd replace #5, because Tyson explained that his choosing to go to rocks had a lot more thought behind it than it appeared on the surface. He knew that Redemption Island was a thing on BvW, and he was confident enough in his challenge abilities that he knew that even if he drew the white rock, he had a pretty good chance of winning enough duels to come back in the game. So this wasn't just him taking a chance on dumb luck, but making a calculated risk

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Tyson's explanation is dumb, though. If he gets rocked out, Gervase or Monica almost certainly get voted out next, and then Tyson can't get to the end with both of them anymore and loses at Final Tribal Council. It's also pretty risky to take your chances on a Redemption Island duel against Laura Morett and maybe Monica. Both of them are very good at challenges, and there's no guarantee that Tyson would have gotten back in. No, he just made a really bad move.

[@FlaggedALot]

I feel that Chris D has a spot on this list. He handed the women the majority at the merge, and although his last man standing run was very impressive, he put himself in the position to need that run when he could have kept a John K and had an easier path to the win. From a TV angle though, his bad choice made for a much more satisfying story.

[@dabumisch4753]

Saying the jury was mostly voting against Sugar/Susie and Bob just happened to be there isn't really true. For Randy it clearly is but Marcus, Charlie, and Corinne all really liked Bob and were happy to vote for him. I think you can also kinda defend Tyson's move - didn't he expect Ciera to vote with him? I forget how open she was or wasn't about flipping before the first votes were read. In any case I see his logic because he's a favorite to win pretty much any RI challenge and even if she does flip the odds are in favor of him surviving, and then he can use it the next round where he might be an even bigger target with no other chance of survival. I think he made the right call but yeah it was definitely a risky one. (Also Jenna giving Immunity to Heidi is maybe the most underrated move in the history of Survivor and def not an honorable mention!)

[@coqui9879]

Dabu Misch Randy said he went to FTC planning to vote for Susie but she pissed him off so he switched to Bob

[@bigbuffguy9589]

If Tyson expected Ciera to still vote with him after how that tribal went, he was a moron. Ciera initially wasn't going to flip, but Hayden (and to some degree Jeff) were very persuasive, and Monica and especially Gervase were incredibly unpersuasive. The other problem for Tyson is that he actually needed both Gervase and Monica at Final Tribal Council to win. He could have protected his entire alliance but chose to take a 1/3 chance to lose the game on the spot.

[@adamlitwin8580]

Great list!

[@adammeyer347128]

This might have actually won Mike the season. I don’t know if he’d have fought as hard or played with the same intensity if he felt like he was still in the majority, and I think Rodney and Dan would have made him feel just comfortable enough down the stretch. He played better with his back completely against the wall than I think he might have otherwise.

[@mikemena3357]

Adams worst move was when he told Hannah that he had an idol at final 5. By doing that, he automatically put Hannah in the position of power and if he didn’t do that, Adam would have been able to idol David out. Could have really costed him a million bucks

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Never really understood what Hannah had to gain by keeping David in the game. It kept the biggest threat left still in the game, and allowed Adam ammo to use against her at FTC.

[@felixvecchiarelli6458]

Hannah should have won too.

[@aperson22222]

Had Tyson played his idol, it would have gone back into circulation, Sierra would have had an excellent chance of sniffing it out, and it would not have been available to save Gervase when Monica started talking about flipping at the last minute. I think there _are_ times when you need to save your best pitcher for tomorrow.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

A fair point, but I still think it's far too risky to take a 1/3 chance of getting voted out over immunity for the entire alliance. Also, I know Tyson is a strong challenge competitor, and Laura lost to Tina, but would you want to take on Laura Morett in a duel? I wouldn't.

[@jaredmitchener9175]

I like Tyson, he’s one of my favorite winners. But man, his winning season isn’t my one of my favorites. I liked him in Tocantis and HvV but was rooting on Hayden hardcore during BvW. Then Tyson delivers a complete asshole adrenaline-driven stateman to Katie and man... I like the guy but he was a villain in BvW for sure.

[@survivorturnover]

cool vid bro, i swear i didnt know jenna gave her immunity necklace to heidi, thought only erik & brandon the only ones in history to do that

[@reginamachamer821]

Mike should never have caved 🤦‍♀️ at that point the damage was already done. Doing that fixed nothing.

[@Srcruser]

I think tyson knew he would probably be able to get back into the game if he lost

[@roddorfj]

I feel that Brian had a worse FTC performance than Bob.

[@Peridiam]

He definitely had a terrible close, yeah.

[@roddorfj]

Come to think of it, maybe a Top 5 best FTC performances by runners-up would be a neat idea. Clay is definitely my nomination.

[@zoroark65]

Brian didn't care about FTC. He only won over 4 jurors, the exact amount he knew he needed, and then put in no effort at FTC because he knew he didn't need to. That's the sociopath Mr. Freeze for you.

[@zoroark65]

I really don't think he was that close to losing it; Jake hated Clay for a comment he'd made earlier in the season and was never going to vote for him, and I don't think the other Sook Jais really cared. Helen was never going to vote for Clay either since she didn't respect how he didn't work hard around camp, something that was way worse to her than Brian's betrayal. He also managed to poison the well against Clay by making Ted think he was racist when really he just made that comment up. Not the cleanest or most honorable way to win, but it worked.

[@zoroark65]

@Flamelord325 They were never on the same tribe but because of the fake merge twist both tribes lived together from the final ten on anyway. Not optimal, but still better than Cook Islands where they genuinely never met at least

[@jackspiegel4]

The only thing about number 5 is that he didn’t think Ciera would flip on him so he didn’t think he needed to play his idol.

[@grantsterman2464]

The thing about Tyson is that in the extended tribal council, he chose to pick the 3rd rock. He was smart enough to know that probability says his chances were far less than the expected 1/3. He wasn't being lucky. He was playing the odds that he'd survive and could play his idol later. Nonetheless, if he did draw the rock, he knew he could win back through Redemption Island. It was safer in the long run to save the idol for a more crucial moment.

[@patogenny]

No matter first, second or third, his chances always will be 1/3.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

This makes zero sense. The chances are literally 1/3 every time because they don't reveal them until everyone has drawn.

[@GameShowGumbo]

I think that's the wrong move you made when talking about Jenna. The real worst move by Jenna was her slaps in that match with Sharmell at TNA Victory Road 2009. Worst moves and the Worst Match possibly in wrestling history.

[@jacobadelsheimer9645]

Tyson did not think cierra would flip and after she flipped he could not have played the idol

[@birks2180]

Jacob Adelsheimer That doesn't matter. If she didn't flip, Tyson played the idol and Ciera felt betrayed afterwards, Tyson would still have the numbers in F5.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

I mean, that's just an indictment of Tyson's terrible read on Ciera. It should not have been hard to foresee that the danger of Ciera flipping was very high after seeing how persuasive Hayden was and how unpersuasive Monica and especially Gervase were.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

Not sure about Jenna being on this list. It's not a great move, but it was pre-swap, and the only thing that really went wrong is that Heidi ended up on the other tribe after the swap. Jenna herself wasn't really in much danger because of it. I'd say that Tina blindsiding Jerri when she did was much worse, as Amber could have (and should have) flipped immediately to the Kuchas.

[@cjtrules1]

I'm still dumbfounded on how JT convinced several people in Tocantins to sacrifice their game for him. "JT is so nice" BUT YOU STILL SHOULD VOTE HIM OUT!! The game went up a notch in being cut throat after Tocantins because "nice" never meant "not voting you out" anymore. Every time JT played again no one trusted him blindly like in Tocantins so his strategies got exposed as too trusting.

[@abstort9593]

Now we have a winner that got a pre-merge boot. :P

[@proudtex6078]

I actually think that Bob made one particular terrible move, which was letting his fake idol be used to fool Randy and embarrass him in front of the jury. He was verrrry lucky that Randy didn't react to Bob with an "F U" and vote for Susie instead. Randy has said later that if he had a little more time to think about it, he would have voted for Susie.

[@JMaster9877]

Top 10 Craziest Moves of All Time

[@Peridiam]

I like it! I'll definitely do that at some point.

[@sethtanner1]

Great insight on Tyson

[@reginamachamer821]

I still cannot believe that an entire group of people thought it was a good idea to surround their fire with wooden crates and then just leave for a challenge like that 🤦‍♀️ as soon as I saw what they were doing I was literally yelling out loud at the TV "what are you doing you idiots???!!" lmao

[@scarthen4805]

You deserve more subs

[@mutranslations749]

I love this video except the fact that you bash Susie in Gabon... saying the jury would walk out... even though she received 3 votes to win.

[@Peridiam]

I know, I know, I was being a little mean. ;) Susie wins 3-0!

[@rackc8288]

I liked Sugar.

[@charlestoti2252]

In a Susie/Crystal/Sugar FTC, Corinne said that the onion alliance would have walked away.

[@marleydrewhamblin1849]

Adams move to vote someone out reminds me of Desiree trying to vote out Kellyn but her getting voted out instead in Ghost Island

[@dam419]

I hated Adam that season, I really didn't think he deserved to win from a game play stand point, I honestly think once he started crying about his mom having cancer that it was set in stone that he would win. It's also horrible that she died right when he got back home.

[@stephencarlin6273]

Dami Ikwe he had all 10 votes, maybe 8 or 9 before he mentioned that, he would've won by a landslide anyway

[@avideogamemaster]

he would win regardless

[@BloodDraek]

As these guys said he had the dub regardless. But no one should ever be criticized for trying to garner sympathy in a Jury plea. You do whatever the fuck you think is necessary to get those 10 losers on the bench to give you their vote. If I were in a final 3 I would bring up a fake dying grandmother story if it would mean securing even a single vote (although I would probably have to go with something other than Grandma because Fairplay already used that strategy)

[@miriamberry7053]

I hated Adam - he was so erratic and whiny. Completely ruined the season and I'll never watch it again. If you have to use sympathy to get the juries votes you don't deserve to win. Play hard, play smart and the votes will come.

[@supersonicheroes]

Adam was great. True, he made a few misplays but he made up for them and gained back everyone’s trust. Tyler almost screwed him, but Adam got back at him in the end and proved his loyalty by using an immunity item on Hannah, overshadowing Will’s move. Besides, what happened to his mom was tragic and beyond his control, but he might as well use it to help him win.

[@Agju]

i'm sorry, but i still can't get completely onboard with Adam Klein :/

[@Brakiros]

Adam did exactly the same thing this season as well it's called not learning from your past mistakes

[@johnyisn1]

Beefing with #5: you didn't mention redemption island at all. Tyson is one of the few complete packages as far as individual challenges go, I think he wins his way back in if he draws the rock.

[@WillTaco456]

There'd be a lot less credibility if he got to the end after being voted off. And that would leave Katie, Ciera and Hayden in the game at Final 5 lessening his chance of even making it back.

[@Peridiam]

While that's true, I decided not to talk about RI because I don't think it makes much of a difference even if Tyson comes back from it. Ciera beats him at the F5 immunity and he probably goes right back out the door. :\

[@yaboi912]

You're forgetting there's literally no reason not to play the idol. Regardless of redemption island, Tyson had the ability to ensure that none of his allies would be leaving.

[@ryanpacatte6054]

Tyson said on RHAP without redemption island he would not of drawn a rock, he would've voted monica out. And considering he wins the final 2 immunities anyway, I think he wins either way

[@Peridiam]

I don't know, I'm not sure Tyson can beat anyone at the FTC other than Gervase/Monica at that point. I wouldn't be surprised if he loses to Hayden or Ciera.

[@mellybeans7838]

Lol "sorry j.t"

[@traviscrowell8946]

New number 1. Chris being voted out third.

[@bencalebrod]

Also, you forgot that Bob making the fake idol arguably won him the game, as it made the majority alliance focus on getting rid of Randy instead of him even though he was a bigger challenge threat.

[@Peridiam]

bencalebrod Ehh, I’d argue that didn’t win him the game. Randy was a major pest and was most likely targeted ahead of Bob no matter what. Bob wasn’t a known challenge threat at the time either, so I can’t fault them for taking Randy out before him.

[@MachetesAreFun]

Had this randomly pop up in recommended. I had forgotten you made videos lol. I'm assuming you'll recognize my username ;)

[@Peridiam]

Machetes AreFun Are you the Machete Man???

[@MachetesAreFun]

Well, one of them at least. I remember seeing you post video links in the Survivor/etc. general and thinking "I'll look into that later" but then I always forgot lol

[@ahaanmodi4279]

Sandra gives denise idol which got used for herself just for a fire token

[@slospop1125]

Tyson's move with drawing rocks reminded me when Rich dropped out of the final immunity challenge knowing he had 50/50 chance of making it through to the end back in season 1

[@sethrollins4230]

What about when Sarah gave a Cirie her advantage, and then Cirie exposed the fact Sarah had an advantage by attempting to take Sarah’s vote.

[@vansieber230]

I dont think that was a dumb move on Sarah's part. It was actually Cirie who was kinda dumb in that situation since she didn't read that the advantage couldn't be passed to another player.

[@bigbuffguy9589]

@@vansieber230 Agreed. Also, Sarah played her advantage at the same tribal council and got the threat of it out of the game. Having an advantage that everyone knows about is dangerous, so it's often correct to just get rid of it.

[@TheMattHardyFan21]

Also something didnt mentioned in number 5 is that if Tyson uses the idol even incorrectly, we dont go to rocks, because Ciera would see she is screwed because only her or Katie can go home in a rock draw, and why take a 50/50 shot with a rock draw, when she can stay in the game 100% by flipping back and voting hayden in the revote in a 3-1 vote, that way she stays in the game but also can save a little bit of face with her old alliance, given she helped them vote out the biggest threat of the minority, I still think Ciera wouldnt have won, but at least she would have ended 4th

[@tjgetts2605]

Tyson didn't KNOW she was gonna flip

[@jedirevan1582]

How about dumbest moves made by the first person sent home. Usually don't pay that much attention to the beginning of the season but I'm sure there are enough bone headed decisions to make a list.

[@Snailbarf]

Mike's gotta be one of the least likeable winners ever. The go for it gameplay of Vlachos without the personality. Plus his voice sounded like when a doctor checks your tongue with that sandpaper depressor and forgot to take it out. God it was hard to watch him win.

[@dinohall2595]

Snailbarf Kind of shallow to make fun of someone's voice, which is beyond his control. Also, Mike had plenty of personality and an inspirational determined personality that got him through 6 tribals with 5 immunity wins and an idol play. That auction hiccup and the friction between himself and Rodney were his only bad moves.

[@TheBBallEnthusiast]

If you seriously think Mike isn't a likeable winner, then I'm curious about the type of people you hang out with. Hell, outside of the game, he's friends with so many people on his season. I can list more unlikeable winners than Mike; Richard Hatch, Brian Heidik, Jenna Morasca, Todd Herzog, JT Thomas, etc. Actually, the only two people I really despise are Brian Heidik and JT for their shit outside of the game. I can't judge anyone for their gameplay, especially if they win.

[@jarrettcastillo7290]

i dont think tyson thought cierra was going to flip, and even if he thought there was a chance she would, i think he thought he could get back into the game through redemption island without it strongly hurting his chances with the jury. Playing the percentages, in hindsight it looks dumb but i can see where he was coming from.

[@christiancountryboyilovejesus]

There was bad gameplay on both sides leading up to the Rock draw in Blood vs. Water Bob didn't know how to play the game. Mike Hollaway and Adam made pretty big mistakes too. God bless everyone 🙏🙌😇

[@samthesnowman666]

8:12 apparently he was flawless since the merge and bragged about how well he did XD

[@samthesnowman666]

[@MythicalPhoebe]

i really liked david and zeke in millenials versus genx. as well as jay. i really didn't like Adam's win because i feel like he only won because he played the "my mom has cancer" card.

[@dinohall2595]

MythicalPhoenix Not trying to sound insulting or anything, just looking for your reasoning. How do you think Ken or Hannah possibly could have won even if Adam hadn't mentioned his mother having cancer? Adam could take more credit than Hannah for all their shared moves, and Ken's social strategy was naïve.

[@MythicalPhoebe]

@Evita Viitala i really wanted to like adam but i just feel like his gameplay was tainted slightly by his grab for sympathy points. i definitely think he sitll played a good game.

[@avacartagena]

JT's last two seasons :)

[@khimogsonar4934]

ava JT was BAD AT GC... Ok at HvV but was AMAZING at TOCANTINS One of my favourite winners...he's a Physical threat

[@MarioXMan100]

Would you change the stance on his move with consideration of Redemption Island. He explained later that he did this and didn't worry about it because of Redemtion Island and he knew he could return

[@odefeoberabor7597]

Lol. What about Jenna giving up immunity long before Eric.

[@davidmullen00]

Mikes move would not have been quite as bad if he had just committed to the move instead of buying the letters after all. Would have at least given him the advantage

[@MrCarl760]

THANK YOU for making Mikes move #1, I hate when people call him an underdog because really, Mike had piss poor social and strategic game and underdogs find themselves in situations of misfortune when they deserve better. With Mike, he just fucked up and was downright horrible at gameplay, the only reason he won was because of his figure.

[@nallainductions]

I would have included Fabio at final 6 of Nicaragua not getting an obviously pissed Jane over to his and Dan's side and forcing a rock draw when only Dan and whoever of Chase, Holly, and Sash they didn't vote for was going to be drawing. It was a clearly obvious way of possibly getting power for the rest of the game that Fabio was simply not game savvy enough to take advantage of.

[@jonathanlee2099]

Chase and Sash both had and played idols though, so it would have been similar to what happened at the final 6 of Cambodia where only one person would be eligible for elimination in the rock draw (which in this case would have been Dan, and clearly between Dan and Jane, it's more beneficial for Fabio to eliminate Jane). Also, Fabio's only hope of making the final three at that point regardless of what happened was an immunity streak, which is contingent on him getting rid of immunity threats such as Jane

[@jaredmitchener9175]

Thank you for the BrBad reference. “No half measures, Walt”

[@christiancountryboyilovejesus]

Best moves made by players who lost list? God bless 🙏🙌😇

[@kawaiiprincess905]

1st:Parvati shallow 2nd:Parvati 3rd:Parv 4th:Shallow 5th:The real queen PARVATI SHALLOW

[@flippieswanpoel1870]

agree with all of them except Bob, i really like Bob and i think being a likeable winner is better then a lucky winner

[@garrettkelley1148]

If I’m a juror with a final two or sugar and Susie, I would vote for Gillian

[@bencalebrod]

How on Earth is Fabio not on this list for pretty much everything he did?

[@Peridiam]

bencalebrod I need specifics!

[@1survivor566]

I don't remember a bad move Fabio made. Honestly he didn't make very many moves at all lol. He won because he won some challenges and he was a good social player.

[@JuliaTheTransPeacock]

Literally any move Ben made.

[@Peridiam]

tru

[@dinohall2595]

PersonalPerson Ben played a great game with a lot of good moves. I can't recall one move he made which worked to his disadvantage.

[@charlestoti2252]

Dino Hall ??????!

[@amandaleebee98]

Tbh people in DRs act like they ass kiss when at a finale on purpose, and I just feel like people have a tendency to do this to someone unknowingly and later says it strategy

[@bigfortnitefan1890]

If you included other seasons JT would be #1-5

[@timolee]

everything the military guy that won this last season did should be on here i already forgot his name omg i can only remember chrissy's name for some reason wow

[@cynthiaadam7558]

BAHAHA PLS I FORGOT ABOUT THIS AT 3:44

[@Land0n]

If you watched the season you would know that he didn’t want to use the idol because he wanted to give it to his girlfriend as a souvenir who got voted off early

[@Peridiam]

Pokebros Top 5 Best Relationship Moves in Survivor. Sadly, still not a good game move.

[@cel.2263]

The Tyson is so true, that really probably the worst move made by a winner. The Jenna move is pretty bad, but to be fair i think the game back then was so different that i can understand a littl bit better. Adam read Taylor really bad, that's whole point his move failed, maybe if it were another player it would've been better. And the Mike one i won't even mention, he was the luckiest winner.

[@ghandiii9500]

Well Tyson or any of his allies didn't go home

[@bigbuffguy9589]

That's results-based thinking. There was no reason for Tyson to take that risk.

[@SirChristopher365]

Before I watch the video........ Todd giving James the 2 idols HAS to at least be on the list, right???

[@bigbuffguy9589]

I think that move might be an honorable mention. The thing is, Todd really had no way to be sure that the idol at the Zhan Hu camp hadn't already been found, and he figured that James definitely needed an idol to avoid getting voted out. So I think it the move is justifiable from Todd's perspective at the time he made it, even if it ultimately turned out to be pretty dangerous.

[@rockstar2013100]

hey, I got one. how about Top 5 Players that deserve a second chance? like players that you thought would do better had they have another shot.Only Players that have played Once and never returned

[@cc-wz6xr]

I have to agree AND disagree with your #1, because Mike's intuition wasn't wrong. He knew Rodney and Will were making an alliance with Tyler and Caroline, and that he, Dan and Sierra would be on the outs come Final 7. The thing I do agree about your reasoning is that Mike should've read the situation more closely. Dan was SO blind to the alliance's true intentions, and Sierra wasn't looking to make any move that was risky. So by doing what he did, Mike alerted Rodney, Will, Tyler and Caroline of his suspicions AND he made it easy for them to turn him into the tribe pariah. He wasn't wrong to be paranoid and actively make moves to shake things up, but he wasn't playing it subtle. Sandra in Pearl Islands did it in true legendary fashion by having the girls eavesdrop on Burton and Fairplay.

[@orangejuice4974]

Have you made any most robbed 4th/3rd place (final voting tribal) if you haven't you should

[@AubreyMichelle09]

Okay but i adore Bob and refuse to listen to any bad talking about him.

[@leeshdee9269]

Mike Holloway is the worst Survivor winner ever. Seriously, his game sucked so bad that when you need to 100% rely on immunity challenge wins to stay in the game you know your strategic and social game sucks ass. That stunt he played at the auction and then doubled-down on it all by creating an unnecessary fight back at camp was horrendously stupid and bad.

[@SmoothCriminal12]

Ben was even worse if we're being honest. Had to rely souly on idols which were probably handed to him by production, blew the F4 immunity challenge and then got bailed out by the edition of firemaking (which I still hate).