Top 7 PLOT TWISTS in Harry Potter

[@Kilthan2050]

There’s a decent “what if” story. What if Snape had been able to set aside his dislike of James to truly mentor Harry.

[@laha9372]

That could have sped up things in the beginning, but made them more difficult when Voldemort is back, because he might not have trusted Snape. Much to unfold there!

[@benvanderberg5321]

@@laha9372 I dont know if it would have necessarily would have had a huge difference in how Voldemort would perceive him. Book 1 Snape was told to watch out for Quirrell so he wouldn't have displayed as much emotion around him to harry. Book 4 He could easily play it off as helping him for the try wizard and book 6 say he could say he was opening his mind to allow him to more easily plant the department memories.

[@Kilthan2050]

@@laha9372 Book 3 could have been wildly different.

[@hobbesnonumbers]

And/or Harry starts to trust Snape earlier especially before the end of OoP

[@daanxbox360]

Yes please!

[@mbanerjee5889]

My favorite was learning that Tom Marvolo Riddle was an anagram; I remember stopping reading to rearrange the letters.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I just feel bad for all the foreign translations that had to change both phrases.

[@sawanna508]

@@coolnerdlll6053 In the German translation they changed the Name Marvolo into Vorlost to make it work. Because of that it get's lost that all the Gaunts have Names with the first letter M.

[@zer0skarI]

@@coolnerdlll6053 In Finnish translation, Voldemort's real name was changed to Tom Lomen Valedro

[@phenixorbitall3917]

❤ true :)

[@matityaloran9157]

In French, his real name is Tom Elvis Jusedor (Je Suis Voldemort)

[@darkkey19]

I always thought the Sirius Black plot twist was the best of the series. Snape's loyalty was debated, with a lot of people going each way on which side he was on, but I always kind of guessed that Lily was the reason Snape and James hated each other. But I admit, the Moody/Barty Crouch Jr. is a really good twist too.

[@grahamdamberger7130]

Snape felt that James took Lily away from him, then Snape called Lily the Wizarding World equivalent to a racial slur which angered both her and James. I bet Snape and James each wished that they faced each other during the first Wizarding War.

[@zbanul10]

Yes the book did a very good job on it. The movie kind of ruins it with the tongue thing

[@zbanul10]

Or it could be interpreted as moody mocking crouch

[@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change]

Barry Crouch was such a masterful twist because the whole time I was thinking it's either Karkaroff (obvious red herring), Bagman (being all shifty) or Snape (because I, like Harry, never trusted him, plus once we saw the dads of Malfoy, Crabbe and Goyle, it was like aha they are death eaters). And then, Moody is Crouch Jnr? What???

[@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change]

The beauty of the book was that the ambiguity around Barty's guilt and given Crouch Snr's reputation, I had genuine doubts about Barty being guilty but then the reveal was such a gut punch. This was totally lost in the movie when David Tennant pulled faces and basically confirmed Barty's guilt by flicking his tongue about.

[@BHuang92]

Seven times Harry Potter didn't know anything: 1st movie: "I'm a wizard?!" 2nd movie: "Tom Riddle is Voldemort?!" 3rd movie: "I have a godfather?!" 4th movie: "I've been tricked to bring back Voldemort?!" 5th movie: "There was a prophecy?!" 6th movie: "Snape is the Half-Blood Prince?!" 7th movie: "Snape was good all along and I have to...what now?!!"

[@lukeroberson2115]

Harry Potter, the Boy Who Asked.

[@Niyaaa2434]

​@@lukeroberson2115lmao🤣

[@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change]

Okay but the biggest twist was finally getting the final book, immediately turning to the last page to get a sneak peek and reading the words "Ginny kissed Albus good-bye" - like what in the fanfiction is this...oh wait...OH!

[@coolnerdlll6053]

How many points does Gryffindor lose for that?

[@Glitchtraptherabbit]

@@coolnerdlll6053 As a slytherin I would say 1000000 BAGILLION TRILLION BILLION POINTS FROM A-GRRRRYFFFFFFFINDORRRRRRR

[@gweniverebrown699]

Honestly I do that all the time. If you’ve read the percy jackson books then you know that feeling and you scream at your self but you still do it with every book you read

[@prabkunvar10]

​@@Glitchtraptherabbit**OOHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO**

[@QUEENOBSCURE]

oh earn? lol @@coolnerdlll6053

[@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change]

Like you, I spent each book completely forgotting how twisty the previous book was. But nothing, nothing could beat "it's not Snape, it's Quirrel" twist of the first book. I remember 11 year old me 'sneak-peeking' to the next page and reading the words Quirrel and it was the best twist I had ever read (up until that point in my life). The Harry Potter books were genre bending in the sense that they were essentially mystery-thriller stories set in a fantasy world (that becomes fantasy dystopia in the latter part of the story).

[@ObscurusBooks]

The obvious plot twists aside, one of the biggest plot twists for me was that when tidying up all the rooms in Grimmauld Place in Order of the Phoenix, they found Slytherin's locket with Voldemort's horcrux without knowing what it really was: "a heavy locket that none of them could open" (p. 108). When I reread the series later, that reeaallly blew my mind!

[@emankcin1701]

Even better was the Ravenclaw Diadem in the Room of Requirement (book 6).

[@LittleMinnow13]

@@emankcin17017*

[@surferdude4487]

One thing that Mad-eye imposter did was teach Harry to throw off the Imperius curse. I think he was fascinated that anyone could resist and just kept on going.

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

It would make sense, since it took him months to really be able to resist it

[@RichardRenes]

I think that Crouch jr actually wanted to imperius Harry through the tournament, but somehow Harry was able to break the curse quickly so Crouch/ Moody now had to get creative...

[@tomcat124us]

He was all excited that he was able to throw it off, which in the end he was able to throw off Riddle's Imperious Curse.

[@fleetstreet11]

@@tomcat124us "Potter fought it!....They'll have trouble controlling *you*!"

[@fishybrickfilms]

Time 2 of asking for “what if Tom Riddle got hired as the defense against the dark arts teacher”

[@megellen5357]

That sounds awesome!

[@tuw-001]

It would be chaos and Dumbledore would probably get overwhelmed- I love it tho

[@Sky16198]

​@@megellen5357yes

[@danoobking901]

Yessss Wait he wouldn’t put the jinx for each next DADA teacher to not make it to next year, which is cool Edit: WHICH IS BAD CAUSE MOLDYMORT MIGHT STAY (quarrel)

[@gothamwarrior]

@@tuw-001It wouldn’t be chaos; it would be order constructed carefully by Voldemort.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Maybe it's because I knew most of the big ones ahead of time, but my favorite twist might be Pettigrew being Scabbers. It's completely out of left field, but it does change a lot about the first two books.

[@alexanderzack3720]

sadly it opens the very questionable and never adressed plot hole that fred and george would´ve seen their brother ron every night in bed with peter

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@alexanderzack3720 The popular theory is that only the Marauders could see each other on the map, and I think Harry seeing Peter on it in the movies can be explained as him being descended from a Marauder.

[@alexanderzack3720]

@@coolnerdlll6053 yeah but that´s just the fans trying to explain it away. point is neither the movie nor the book ever adresses it

[@coolnerdlll6053]

@@alexanderzack3720 As if that's the only plot hole in Harry Potter. I love this series, but you have to admit that it makes no sense.

[@jackstrawful]

It also arguably makes the least sense, even aside from the whole Marauders Map thing - if Scabbers had been in the Weasley family for so long, why didn't anyone notice how abnormally old he was getting? Percy is 4 yrs older than Ron and rats typically only live 2-4 years, so when Ron was starting Hogwarts they should have been expecting him to die at any time - hardly appropriate to be sending him with Ron as his companion. By PoA, Scabbers would have been at least 6 yrs old which is nearly impossible, the oldest ever on record was 7. And the movie's even worse, saying he'd been with the Weasley's for 12 years - when i heard that the first time, it nearly ruined that whole climactic scene for me cuz i was so distracted thinking about it.

[@torreyrg42]

As a teacher myself, the subtext I took from half blood prince is summarized in a phrase I keep framed on my desk: “people do not learn from people they do not like”. (A gift from a mentor teacher) The Snape/Harry relationship is not a positive student teacher relationship. But when the identity and interaction of the teacher is removed, it is shown that Snape could be a good teacher. But even the best teachers are ineffective when they do not create a positive learning environment for their students.

[@eef.4414]

I always thought that Barty Crouch Jrs reasoning for learning the students how to throw off an Imperius Curse is because he's been kept under it for so long. And somewhere something in me wants to believe that he doesn't want anyone to go through that, enemy or ally.

[@boracicplague118]

The thing about BCJ to me is the fact that NO ONE brings up the fact that he did the most demented thing in the books. Remember back to when Harry finds the pensive (don’t think I am spelling that right) and goes into the memory. He learns that BCJ goes to Azkaban for torturing Frank and Alice Longbottom to the point of making them go insane. Ok now go a couple of chapters back and realize that “Moody” uses the same curse in front of their child to torment him.

[@DonDueed]

Alternatively, and more cynically, he could be ensuring that his students can never claim falsely to have been imperiused, since he would know they were capable of overcoming the curse.

[@kaylapounds1359]

I think one of the reasons why Barty Jr took to Voldemort was because his father was never around or seemed to care.

[@Keyboardje]

He rejoiced in the fact his father was put under that same spell he had used on him. So he DID want someone to go through that.

[@spin.chicken]

Nah, that part was just bad writing. You'd be surprised how often authors make stuff up as they go. There wasn't really any reason for BCJ to do any of that, honestly.

[@HairyGhostbear]

19:57 The reason boomslang (Dutch/Afrikaans for 'tree snake') hasn't come up in Fantastic Beasts is because it is a real animal. The ingredient is similar to things like 'the eye of a newt' or 'a frog's leg'.

[@decent_random]

Newt is in fantastic beasts though!!

[@BaalsMistress]

@@decent_randomThat really lends a different feel to "eye of newt" in a potion.

[@mathmt5973]

8:37 when he took the test he got exceeds expectations which means while he wasn't the best, he was still good at potions.

[@13vatra]

If I recall correctly there's even a line somewhere, either during the OWLs or in 6th year, but Harry even mentioned that without Snape potions wasn't that hard. So he had a knack for it.

[@kyellverdonschot9922]

@@13vatraYeah it’s after Harry saw Snape in the Pensieve. Snape starts ignoring him and Harry is actually able to make potions But then Snape breaks it

[@nickphaux]

​@@13vatra100%. If he didn't have the middle aged man bullying him because hes obsessed with him and his dead mother for 2 decades after she told him to leave her alone he wouldve excelled in potions probably.... I figure hed do very well in slughorns class even without the HBP book

[@grahamdamberger7130]

The reveal of the Heir of Slytherin and the reveal of Harry being one of Voldemort's horcruxes were among some of the other major plot twists that were hinted at throughout the series. How else can Harry and Voldemort see through each other's minds?

[@piotrszkudlarek6597]

Magic xd

[@phenixorbitall3917]

True, this connection between "I am Lord Voldemort" and "Tom Marvolo Riddle" killed me... I then wondered "How did a decent looking human being end up so monstrous looking as Voldemort had been described in book one?" Also I was deeply puzzled by the fact, that Harrys ability to speak to snakes was actually a bad baad sign and that Harry and Voldemort were somewhat linked due to what happened the night Lilli sacrified herself.

[@harpieahouse6246]

Yeah, the fact that GINNY WEASLEY was the one opening the chamber all this time... that was brilliant.

[@1Mystery10000]

Great list. I would add Tom Riddle being Voldemort in book 2 and Ginny opening the Chamber of Secrets. But book 4 is definitly the best plottwist. Actually it is mentioned that Boomslang skin was for the polyjuice potion but Harry thought that Snape talked about 2 years ago when Hermione stole it. Great way to give a hint (like Dobby mentioning that Mcgonagall and Moody talked about the 2nd task.) Perfect twist

[@hufflepom]

There are SO many hints in HBP that Snape is "The Prince." He is CONSTANTLY saying that he's learned more from The Prince than he did from Snape. In the first potions lesson ever Snape asks Harry three questions. One is about the Draught of Living Death (which is the first potion that Slughorn has the class make and Snape's modifications help Harry make the best potion and win the Liquid Luck). Another question is about the Bezoar and once again a note from Snape in the margins mentions the Bezoar and saves Ron. Also why after FIVE YEARS of Snape writing out instructions (clearly because he has better tricks than the book) but all of the sudden the potion instructions come from the textbook. Less exciting (for me) is the levicorpus spell that we see James use on Snape in OotP and then "invents" in the margins of HBP (connecting Snape to the spell). This one bugs me because James uses it on Snape after their OWL (so fifth year) but Snape seems to have "invented" and did some troubleshooting for the spell in a year six textbook).

[@kinga3731]

Also how didn't Harry recognise Snape's writing 😂

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

@@kinga3731 right?!

[@anastazis7901]

it seems the potion book belonged to Snape's mother, so he could read it and use it way before his sixth year

[@duubiousdisc]

@@kinga3731 your handwriting is definitely different when writing on a chalkboard with chalk then if you're writing as small as you can with quill in the little margins of a textbook. Also to the original comment my personal headcanon is that he wrote it down because james keeps using it on him, so that he could develop a counterjinx which i believe is also written in the margins of the textbook, but i have read it in a while and i heard it from somewhere else

[@AuthorZaraHoffman]

@@anastazis7901 Yes. I was going to say he probably had access to it early.

[@nathans9764]

The potion ingredients thing had a sub misdirect. Harry thought he was talking about the gillyweed Dobby stole and the boomslang skin Hermione stole in their second year. So he didn't put it together that someone ELSE was stealing boomslang skin.

[@marielleadina8448]

It hits me every time!

[@aceofspades9503]

I remember putting that one together when I first read it! "Wait! Its a more recent theft! Someone is not what they seem!"

[@alexanderzack3720]

the deciding difference between snape the bad potion teacher and the half-blood-prince being the good teacher is their attitude towards harry. snape as a person uses every single opportunity to belittle, insult and torment harry which results in harry being unwilling to listen to anything snape says even when snape is telling important information. meanwhile the book is just giving the information and the advice making harry far more willing to listen

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

Yup, and Harry not listening to Snape just makes Snape do it all the more, creating a positive feedback loop

[@chrisconcannon6490]

That was my thinking too. No matter how effective the notes were, if Harry had learned much earlier that Snape was the Half-Blood Prince, I don't think he would have been able to use it again without hearing Snape's voice reading it. That would have put him off it pretty quickly. He'd probably tell Hermione to burn it rather than hiding it in the RoR.

[@aceofspades9503]

Not just Snape's attitude toward Harry, but his attitude in general- the guy was a horrid bully to all his students. I mean, he is literally Neville's greatest fear, and that's really twisted.

[@thedragonwarrior5861]

@@aceofspades9503 one of the biggest reasons that I say he is not a good guy

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

Oooh! That’s so true and such a good point

[@Rykiz_Vidz]

I always loved how at the end of GoF, Dumbledore casually tells Harry "I'm afraid I've put you in great danger this year Harry. I'm sorry." Like ya Dumbledore, this is nothing new. You have literally thrown Harry head first into danger all 3 years prior as well, and continue doing so lol

[@coolnerdlll6053]

He knew Quirrell was never going to get the Stone. All of that was just putting Harry in danger for a laugh.

[@matityaloran9157]

Actually in the first two books, Harry was defying Dumbledore’s rules when he did dangerous things. In the third book, the only time Dumbledore really endangers Harry is when he sends Harry back in time to save Harry

[@Rykiz_Vidz]

@matityaloran9157 Come on be real. Dumbledore knew almost every single thing Harry was doing each year at least in the first like 3 books. He literally set up traps/puzzles specifically for Harry and his friends lol. Not to mention letting a Medusa like SNAKE roam the halls killing students, and he knew Harry was going to end up fighting it that's why Dumbledore's freakin pet Phoenix came with the sword and hat to help him. Onto of that literally hiring THE worst defense against the dark arts teachers every single year (except Lupin, but he was still just as dangerous due to Anamagis). Like, I honestly coukd just keep going with examples on how Dumbledore deliberately threw Harry and Co. Into danger each yeah cause there's just so many examples.

[@Rykiz_Vidz]

@matityaloran9157 The only explanation I will ever accept is why Dumbledore did that to Harry and his friends, was to prepare and test them because he had Harry's whole life planned out up to the fight against he who shall not be named.

[@matityaloran9157]

@@Rykiz_Vidz Dumbledore was outside of Hogwarts when Harry tried to retrieve the Philosopher’s Stone. Dumbledore hadn’t known the Chamber of Secrets had a Basilisk in it and Lucius Malfoy managed to drive Dumbledore out of Hogwarts. He did send Fawkes to help Harry after returning to the school because the Weasleys reached out to him to help Ginny. Dumbledore did send Harry back in time to save Sirius, Buckbeak and himself in Book 3 but I’ll not concede that for the first two books. (Though most of the dangerous things at Hogwarts in Book 3(e.g. Dementors) were because of the Ministry not Dumbledore.)

[@archiethomas3911]

i think the mystery around the whole diary, who riddle is and that ginny opened the chamber was a massive twist. the entire time other culprits are set up so you gloss over ginny also, they mentioned that the family left items at home and the hid ginnys diary in the list so you don't pay attention to it plus the reveal that tom riddle and voldemort are the same people is crazy because you don't really think about voldemort being a person. i think it works because it turns what we think are two separate issues and reveals them to be the same.

[@marshaanderson2677]

I just re-read the HP books to my grandkids. When I read the last chapter in the book (not the epilogue), it really made more sense that Harry was the master of the Elder Wand. The wand chooses the wizard. He also was able to use it to repair his own wand. This book was so much better than the movie.

[@phenixorbitall3917]

True 👍

[@aceofspades9503]

Personal theory of mine is that part of the power of the elder wand transferred itself to Harry's repaired wand, and that's what allowed it to actually be repaired at all. The elder wand itself was then weakened in power, becoming less dangerous. So Harry the Auror a few years down the line would be a powerful wizard who was the master of an unusually powerful wand. I was also REALLY hoping that the series would continue following Harry Potter as he and his friends solved magical murder mysteries for the ministry of magic as adults.

[@phenixorbitall3917]

You are right. If the series show them as adults I might like it. 👍 My boggart is to see them try to make a remake of the franchise with Hermione, Ron and Harry as kids... it would be ridiculous :)

[@TheOnlyCatana]

Dude you guys are some of my favorite KZbinrs. Thanks for making more Harry Potter vids! ❤

[@samhollier6929]

My favourite twist was learning Harry was a horcrux the whole time, I thought it was the most painfully obvious thing, which I just did not see coming. Edit: spelling.

[@w4n7iiYaScar]

this is also my personal number one

[@THCthehempcloud]

Me too, as a kid, that blew me away.

[@phenixorbitall3917]

By that time I had already lost any hope for Harry surviving his battle against Voldemort. Then when I read this information, it somewhat gave me confort and I thought "at least he won't die for nothing".

[@aceofspades9503]

My cousin had heard this as a theory from the fan community at the time, before the last book was released. I thought he was nuts and told him so 🤣🤣

[@armedkevin1178]

8:08 In other words, Snape can actually be a good teacher if he doesn't hate his student's guts?

[@mikna5758]

I don't wanna be that guy, but... You forgot the "Ginny opened the chamber of secrets". It's a massive twist within the book and you find it out AFTER she's taken to the Chamber!!!

[@nathans9764]

An interesting twist that never gets addressed is Pettigrew's power. Everyone is scared of Sirius for killing 13 people with one curse. What power! And they talk about how oeter was slow and weak. But Peter actually did the remarkable bit AND was faster than Sirius. He also outsmarted him in the moment so witnesses would blame sirius. You mentioned Barty Jr. As the most successful death eater, but it was really Peter. He handed voldy members of the order for a year, gave him the potters, and even managed to get another order member imprisoned when voldy failed. He set himself up to be able to rejoin if voldy came back. Took down Moody alongside barty, and resurrected voldy. But for some reason everyone thinks hes incompetent.

[@culturedsquid8442]

The craziest thing about Barty Crouch Jr. taking Moody's place is that he actually has everyone fooled, and he plays Moody to perfection, and for some reason he is one of the most effective teachers Harry ever had.

[@ThroughTheLensOfAutism]

If “Harry and Snape put aside their differences they could have been a great team”, something that I thought of in the final chapter of Book One.

[@katholmes7112]

Moody/Crouch using unforgivable curses on students is another black mark against Dumbledore. Even if Dumbledore didn't realize this was an imposter, no way with how the students gossipped that he didn't know this guy was subjecting students to unforgivables. Meaning, he allowed children to be imperiused and allowed Neville to be psychologically tortured with a visual demonstration of what was done to his parents.

[@boracicplague118]

Yes yes yes I love this comment. But I want to take it a step further. Not only was Neville tormented with the same curse that affected his parents BUT ALSO by one of the people that did THAT torturing. 😮😳🤯

[@katholmes7112]

EXACTLY!

[@riluna3695]

You can make the case that, however messed up the demonstrations were, they were still important. Dumbledore moved up the lessons from the normal year 6 to year 4, because with Pettigrew on the loose, there was a genuine threat of Voldemort returning _soon_ (which he does). So showing the kids, particularly Harry, what they're up against is a tragic necessity for them to be prepared to, y'know....Defend themselves Against the Dark Arts. Particularly practicing breaking the Imperius curse. Each one student who can do that might potentially save several lives each. Doesn't mean it was a perfectly wholesome decision, by any means. But when the bad guys are bringing horrors down upon your head no matter what, it's better to teach people self-defense than to just leave them to the (were-)wolves. Just another instance of Dumbledore making a rough decision for the greater good. Guess he never really got over that habit.

[@katholmes7112]

@riluna if you were a parent of a child would you care what his reasoning was or would you demand the loss of his job at the very least? I'd be demanding his head on a platter. But Dumbledore has no problems using kids. Most people don't realize that Fleur's hostage for the second task, her baby sister Gabrielle was actually close to being a baby. She was only eight years old and he stuck her underwater in freezing temps. My mom would've skewered him for that.

[@ThreadBomb]

The students may be gossiping, but would they be gossiping _with the headmaster?_ Seems very unlikely.

[@misterwub1438]

The Moody plot twist is one that always fascinated me. But more on the side of Harry became friends with the fake Moody because of his "help", so how is there not any awkwardness when he is with the real Moody? Especially in the battle of the 7 Potters. Just always thought that was weird how out of all the people there, he was the one who knew Harry the least amount of time and had the same amount of pride as everyone else who knew Harry for many years at that point.

[@1Mystery10000]

He knew him as much as Kingsley or Mundungus I would say, so it's not that weird in my eyes.

[@misterwub1438]

@@1Mystery10000 yeah true, I didn't really think about them

[@kaylapounds1359]

Not to mention he knew James and Lily, so he probably based it off knowing them.

[@NeverKissSomeFrog123]

And he as a great auror with deep knowledge about magic realized Harry was important in the war

[@dannyfandoms1]

I loved how these plot twist always got me! never saw them coming! and learning all the clues that pointed to the twist over time was another thing that made me love the series!

[@dmidkif]

Never caught it that when Harry’s scar started hurting, he was staring at the back of Quirrell’s turban, I.e right at Voldemort

[@sifatshams1113]

Finding out that Snape was in love with Lily has to be one of the most satisfying reveals ever mainly BECAUSE it seems so mind-blowingly obvious in retrospect. It takes a particular kind of genius to be able to pull off something like that.

[@spin.chicken]

Ehhhhhh. Hard disagree on that one. Doesn't take any kind of genius, nor is it really all that clever or sensible.

[@jujunorman4695]

I felt I already knew. Same with Petunias jealousy. Was surprised that it was meant to be a surprise.

[@phenixorbitall3917]

Well I disagree with what you just said. I think she had a very good point. I did not suspect anything like that to happen and it is satisfying, because it shows that love has always been the greatest wappen against evil. Love pushed Snape to repent and love gave Snape the courage to stick to his roles no matter what: The love Snape felt for Lily ultimately was the key to win against the Dark Lord.

[@matteoairaghi790]

I wish I could cancel all my Harry Potter knowledge and experience the story again for the first time 😢

[@susantindall8711]

Lol I have wished that for a long time too

[@humanbeing4321]

I can’t believe Sirius was good!!!

[@coolnerdlll6053]

I wish I didn't know almost all of the spoilers before I was even into Harry Potter. I have a huge problem with that in general.

[@ZeldaGamernumber1]

@@coolnerdlll6053 ooooo, that sucks😬😬😬

[@Dylana987654321]

Seriously though

[@TheDrexLord]

I think we can all agree that a prince's tale is one of the best moments in all of Harry Potter and it's my favorite scene in the movies

[@phenixorbitall3917]

Agreed

[@coolnerdlll6053]

DHP2 has all my favorite scenes from across the movies - the Gringotts heist, Harry yelling at Snape, the bridge explosion, the Prince's Tale, the Forest, King's Cross, Harry dueling Voldemort and of course the epilogue, one of my favorite scenes in movie history.

[@vallentinac9513]

definitely my favorite chapter out of all the books, but i didn't really think they did a great job in the movie

[@hansgrundberg6839]

Agree. However , it would have taken at least 25-30 min to cover it all and you don't have that time in a movie. Though, they should have included "For him!", that would have made it much clearer @@vallentinac9513

[@Leviticus_Prime]

If Harry would actually pay attention in potions class, He wouldn't have needed the book to tell him to use a beezor. That is literally one of the first things snape ever taught him in class.

[@neilfan1016]

i probabaly wouldn’t remember that if i learnt it in the first ever lesson

[@spin.chicken]

Going from a non-magic lifestyle to a magic lifestyle would almost be like learning a new language. Even if it's on the first day, as a kid it's going to be particularly tricky and not everyone is going to be able to do it. However, for me, if I lived a decade without magic and finally discovered magic. I would be THOROUGHLY studying my textbooks because that would be sick.

[@phenixorbitall3917]

I agree on that :) I also would be studying and testing magic all day.

[@brunette3cookie]

Hermione said the same thing in the book

[@The_Worst_Guy_Ever]

Even if he was paying attention, remembering something you learned in your first class 5 years ago is unlikely

[@hey_mickey1981]

I can’t say the same about any of the other twists in the series…but I totally saw the Snape being in love with Lily twist coming after the Snape’s Worst Memory chapter. The fact that it was his “worst” memory made no sense otherwise because presumably he and the Marauders had many similar encounters. It was her inclusion that clearly made it different. Also, it made the fact that he hated the very site of Harry (who looked liked James) make more sense. He didn’t like Lupin but treated him with much less disgust. When it came to Sirius, they both still had a lot of animosity towards each other. But why harbor so much hate for someone that already suffered an untimely death? Well, you would if that someone married the girl you were in love with. He also semi-blames James for him losing Lily’s friendship. Although, deep down he knows his own actions were to blame for that and for her death. Which is why he devotes the remainder of his life to protecting her son and taking down Voldemort.

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

9:31 yeah I remember when I was in grade 6 Half blood prince was quite popular book discussion and I had to wait about six months due tp the public library and my school library all not having copies so i literally had to avoid the conversations and I was still shocked (and vindicated as I didnt like snape) when Snape killed Dumbeldore only to find out in the next book that it was all pre planned. Literally when I read that I yelled "Wait WHAT??" which my sister asked "what's wrong?" not realizing I was reading.

[@Bryan-gy2zu]

I think we need SCB to make a video about Barty Crouch Jr. surviving GoF. They've convinced me how big of a threat he was in the books and I wanna see how much more trouble he could've caused.

[@brickbot2.038]

Yes, my favorite Death Eater! He did some of Voldemort's most important work but didn't get any compensation throughout the rest of the series. People like to talk about how Bellatrix was Voldemort's most loyal, totally disregarding Barty. He literally says himself that Voldemort was almost a father figure to him. Actually, that would be a fun plot point in this What-If scenario: Bellatrix and Barty continuously one-upping eachother for Voldemort's favor.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

Without him, Voldemort wouldn't come back, Cedric wouldn't have died and Harry wouldn't have had the golden flame protection, learned to fight off Unforgivable Curses, learned a bunch of useful spells because of the Tournament, become an Auror or given Voldemort his blood to create the Lovecrux. Barty deserves a lot of credit.

[@Raven09s]

Harry learned what a bezoar was the first day in potions in first year. When he uses a bezoar to save Ron, that's the connection I always made to how he remembered it. Because it was his first actual interaction with Snape that set the tone for their entire relationship in Harry's eyes.

[@adamrabe3105]

We got the "Troll in the Dungeon Clip" - classic. Was hoping J would play "Thought you Outta Know" with the reveal of Quirrel. If only. Three cheers for J sliding from side to side with long winded phrases. Does anyone else think that J and Ben should record a HP theory song in the same vane as The Pixar Theory. Ethan could compose the music of course.

[@DabzWaz33]

I honestly feel so robbed that I didn't read the books until recently. The movies came out when I was younger so I just watched them, but reading the books this past year has been amazing I can only imagine what it would have been like reading them as they came out

[@jenniedarling3710]

It was great, no spoilers and there were a lot of stories about the last chapter being kept in safe somewhere.

[@timothyhammer6154]

Yeah, I believe there was even a case where someone stole a book, I forget which one, before it was published, and tried to sell it. Maybe it was Order or Half Blood Prince.

[@zackatk77]

Prisoner Of Azkaban was a genius book for misdirects and major reveals that really wowed readers. It's earned its place as my favourite in the series for good reason.

[@roburban7434]

There's actually an unused take of Draco throwing Harry his wand at the final battle, almost exactly like you described [7:05]

[@Umamahh-iq1qp]

obv he knows

[@tasmiatahia_write_dream_change]

Side note, if I was J's "mortal enemy from high school". I would be cringing so hard because imagine this: "You went to school with J from SCB? How cool!" "Yeah, that, umm...he was kindamymortalenemy".

[@stanivincke7889]

SCB, you should make a short about Snape being Harry's worst and best teacher, starting at 8:11 to 8:50. Just a hilarious part of the video, well done!

[@Ben-jk4fy]

Question: in goblet of fire, Harry and Moody (BCJr) really seemed to bond well, why in the following book/movies did Harry and the real Moody seem to maintain that bond?

[@DonDueed]

I noticed that too. I can see how Harry would feel as if he knew Moody well (even though he didn't), but there was no reason for Moody to feel any connection to any of the students.

[@auroramichael1110]

It may have been because he knew Harry’s parents. Even though he didn’t know Harry personally, he may have felt at ease with him knowing his role in the prophecy and have fought along side his parents

[@StarryEyed0590]

@@auroramichael1110 And Harry acts more at ease with him than most people he meets because Harry has the illusion of already knowing him, which then prompts Moody, who already is disposed to like and respect him, to treat him as if they do have a bond.

[@PostMaToast]

My favorite twist is in Goblet of Fire when we learn the tri-wizard cup is a port-key. Also everything that happens after like the return of Voldemort and Cedric’s death rip

[@RuyLopezTheSicilian]

Here's a what if: what if Lockhart got incapacitated after the pixie incident (yes, his first day), and Dumbledore brought in a disguised and magically monitored Grindelwald as DADA professor?

[@ambiverter]

Nah, that would be too much lol

[@HistoryBluff137]

I read the books as a kid so a lot of the twists got me. But I loved listening to Potterless. Loved hearing him predict what happens in the first 2 books, gets excited he predicted it, and then depressed when he remembered they were books for 11-year-olds and he was an adult with a degree in engineering lol

[@laha9372]

Nonono, don't start asking, if Snape cared more about Harry than Dumbledore. It was killing Dumbledore, that Harry had to die, because he honestly cared for him, but when he asked Snape, if he stared to care for Harry and Snape asked: "him??!?!?" and sent the patronus in answer. He does not care for Harry, it's all about Lily. That's also why I don't like the importance of "Always" in the fandom, because it's in context to this...

[@GummyBear556677]

Hey SCB, please don’t use AI “art” for anything but obviously your thumbnail’s. It is widely known that AI takes “influence” from actual artists and already made works making it plagiarism. Love what y’all do

[@catapultato1733]

everyone takes influence from actual artists, including human artists. the problem comes when people use ai art as a way to replace actual artists. if they'd been using human artists to do their thumbnails previously (and especially if they'd been paid) then using ai art would be a problem, but I don't think they do

[@matthewmatthew981]

​@@catapultato1733 Influence and Derivitation without citation is plagiarism, no matter if you're taking someone's work directly as a human or as an AI training program. Their description should have a citation for where they got the artwork regardless of whether it's real or AI generated.

[@matthewmatthew981]

​@@catapultato1733Though rereading your responses I'm guessing you could have told me that yourself.

[@catapultato1733]

@@matthewmatthew981 yeah, i understand what you're saying. to be honest I'm kind of unsure

[@eshedyson6458]

That Moody plot twist was insane! Barty was sooo convincing and you just didn't even think that he was something to worry about until after the reveal 😮

[@jordanpoole3006]

Best ending: the only things that actually happened were Harry’s mother’s screams. Harry wakes up in the hammock in his parents back yard. She’s hollared for him to come inside a few times now. He yells “coming mom” To PETUNIA! He sits at the set table where his dad (Vernon) gives him an admiring grin. “Nodded off in the garden again, son?” Harry grins back. Dudley laughs and gives His brother a friendly elbow to the side.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Love your HP videos guys! Its what made me a fan of yours🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤

[@christen9847]

13:39 I think J is turtle enough for the turtle club 😂🐢🙃

[@JackAttack7]

My favorite is Snapes memories revealing he is infact a good guy. The movies did well at making his memories emotional and making you feel sympathy for him.

[@Izombiestunz]

“When the Carlin Brothers upload do you get a notification and check out the vid straight away? Especially if it’s about Potter??” Me: “Always…”

[@zb7608]

J, you asked why boomslangs didn’t come up in “Fantastic Beasts”. I think it is because they are not fantasy, they are very real venomous snakes in Southern Africa. The word boomslang is “tree snake” in Afrikaans.

[@EdwardSegalLegend]

It's amazing how many of these the movies managed to screw up (revealing Barty Crouch Jr. way too early, making the reveal of the Half-Blood Prince seem unimportant, etc.)

[@FifthPromise]

What about the fact that the obviously brilliant young charming wizard Lockheart was... a fraud?!

[@ambiverter]

Nah, that one was _Pretty Obvious_ from the beginning

[@wyattstevens8574]

He has a video about how 2 potential Obliviate victims would work: Seamus's mom for banshees (the form the boggart takes in front of him) and Quirrell for vampires/hags/trolls (the latter would make more sense if it wasn't right before Lockhart started teaching there- maybe Obliviate was sort of why he acted weird)

[@steveashlearnerturner]

A better and simpler explanation of why Harry is master of the Elder Wand is...... Harry was always from the start it's master, because he is the last of the Peverells . 1st brother owner of the wand was murdered end of his bloodline. 2nd brother suicide end of his bloodline, and Harry is the last blood relative of the brothers as a direct descendant of the 3rd brother. Which means after his fathers death Harry was the only possible hereditary inheritor of the Deathly Hallows. Of course I'm probably wrong but worth a shot

[@RodrigoMAOEE]

Try to not use AI for your thumbnails in the future! Love your content

[@roseszymanski]

You guys need merch that says "Hagrid is not a pirate!" 🤣 15:14

[@DavidRay_40]

Prediction for #1: Snape is a good guy.

[@Chikararyoku]

the plot twist for me; Draco, arrogant, self absorbed, blood purist, pain in the tucus, Malfoy, the guy you love to hate; seeing him cry in book six, actually afraid, I surprised myself feeling sympathy for him

[@aceofspades9503]

And when MOANING MURTLE winds up being his sympathetic ear- its like the most unlikely pair ever.

[@Chikararyoku]

@@aceofspades9503 true. I believe even Harry describes it as such

[@Ryno_the_Dyno]

I do t k ow if it counts as a plot twist or not, but I remember on my second read through of the series, in OofP, the kids are helping to clean out a room and there’s a locket that no one can open. I’m pretty sure they THROW IT IN THE TRASH and later they suspect Kreacher of swiping it with other things to keep them from removing his mistress’s things. I may have the details wrong. Point is, when I ready that my brain freaked out. “It’s the horcrux! It’s right there!” I loved that moment

[@Fribee83]

Why does the thumbnail look like it was made with AI?

[@matthewmatthew981]

There's no artists credited in the description, so it definitely was. That and its details are unusually inconsistent, like the highlights in his eyes.

[@lilbrownbear]

james being a bully is an underrated plot twist if you can call it that.

[@ArniesTech]

As a kid, in HP1 Snape NOT being the evil guy had my mind blown 😅

[@sawanna508]

It was a surprise for me too but what struck me even more was the fakt, that Quirrel shared his body with Voldemort in that way.

[@bsperoz]

6:24 It makes Sense though BECAUSE if the elder wand KNOWS about that, it won't trust Draco to hold on to IT.

[@crunchysalmons]

is that AI art?? i mean i don’t expect much from disney adults but cmon u know you’re not supposed to use AI “art”

[@HunterX05]

Draco disarmed Dumbledore, Draco is now master of the Elder Wand. Harry disarmed Draco, Harry is now master of the Elder wand. Voldemort kills Harry, Harry is still master of the Elder Wand? Yeah, Resurrection Stone, but Tom Riddle factually killed the previous master of the Elder Wand and didn't garner it's allegiance.

[@bklothis5502]

Please stop using ai in your thumbnail or anywhere. I would rather you do anything else. I'm gonna dislike videos with ai images until this trend stops

[@christiandouglass2225]

I think the Barty Crouch Jr explanation scene in Goblet of Fire is my favorite

[@favour911]

Really disappointing you guys are using AI for your thumbnails :( that program took work from real artists that would've appreciated the commission

[@brownie7885]

I was just listening to the first few chapters of goblet of fire while on a walk and a what if popped into my head...in harrys dream he hears bertha jorkens was killed but when he wakes up can't remember her name but then while at dinner with the weasleys before the world cup percy starts talking about her being missing to arthur....What if that jogged harry's brain and he told Mr. Weasley what his dream was about. My thought of him doing this would be a bit out of character because he liked his secrets but the sudden realization of the name could be enough to say something that would make Mr. Weasley or ron or hermonie question him...maybe Hermonie and Ron would push him to tell someone like sirius or dumbledore IDK just a thought

[@jacobnavarro3675]

Please reconsider your use of AI software in making your thumbnails. Your channel has a decent integrity about it and I know you guys are sensitive to divisive issues mucking up your good vibes. If you do decide to continue to use AI for the channel, maybe you could put out a short (or not so short) video about the topic and explain your decision? And if you're not up to date on the issue, use this as an opportunity to look into it because it's a potential cause for fans to unsub. There's at least one person in the comments here that's claiming to do just that. Also, since most of your subs are younger people, letting them hear about the issue through your unique style would be a really positive way to spread awareness about it.

[@matthewmatthew981]

I would agree with everything you said except for an idea of them making a video explaining their stance, ALL it does is turn their entire channel into a battleground for the loudest voices in the debate. And we don't need another video about the justifications of AI art anymore, viewers have way more of it to watch elsewhere.

[@lex9313]

i love when J lets his chaos out. this video is so fun 😂

[@geminiflame_]

If I could just read these books all over again, like forget I read them at all and start again...I would give anything😭😭

[@thomashernandez6536]

Thanks for the content brothers! I just fell back into the Wizarding world real hard and am loving the enthusiasm!

[@gamerse7en560]

I like ur pitch on the ending with Drako, made sense.

[@wordsmith6154]

While you named a bunch of good ones (especially including the ENTIRE plot of Prisoner of Azkaban, as that's my favorite book and movie of the bunch), you did skip my personal favorite. As a romantic, I personally love seeing the different romantic relationships come together. One of my favorite plot twists, which they left out of the 6th movie, is how Harry and the others suspected Tonks had a crush on Sirius and she was depressed because he died. However, in reality, she was in love with Lupin, who kept on rejecting her feelings.

[@jaldinsicon]

6:40 the elder wand is made of Elder wood, which "scorns to remain with any owner who is not the superior of his or her company".... so yea it may be a post writtign justification but it works

[@biyancuh]

love the nostalgia 😂 was also standing in line at midnight for the book and avoiding the internet to avoid spoilers when i was 15

[@tuw-001]

Brilliant video again! ❤ Some of these plot twists are extremely good :D

[@nathanross8409]

19:56 The reason boomslang isn't in fantastic beasts is because it's the name of an actual, real-life, non-magical snake. I don't know what it did to get such a cool name though :)

[@Elbi93]

Boom = tree, slang = snake. Tree snake. no one calls it a boomslang when speaking english though. we just say tree snake. and when we speak afrikaans, it is boom slang. with an afrikaans pronunciation. Boomslang, not boemslêng XD

[@charleslee8313]

Luke's first day in kindergarten. I'm guessing J was thinking: Where will Luke be sorted?

[@stefanjentoft8107]

I'm currently am reading through Prisoner with my mom who binged all 8 movies 1/night for 8 nights years ago as the total of her experience with Potter till we started reading the books. It's so fun hearing her thoughts and conjectures about what's going on.

[@RodrickMarsMoon]

Let's be honest about the twist in Goblet of Fire: the movie ruined it by showing Barto Jr. alibe and active on the plot since the very first scene. And the tongue tick both him and Alastor had. It was more of a matter of "when the movie will reveal" instead of "WHAAAT?!!" The movie should've taken lessons from the first Saw movie in how to present a great twist on screen: hold every take to show in a series of sequences with additional frames to "ooh 🙀!!!", but, yeah, Newell isn't much of a fan of the book, right?

[@samhollier6929]

We don't talk about the 4th film. Waste of David Tennant.

[@mikelarson7283]

You guys should do a top 15 chapters in harry potter

[@billysmith5409]

The reason boomslangs probably wouldn’t show up in the Fantastic Beast films if they had continued is the boomslang isn’t a magical creature. It’s just an ordinary snake. Its only claim to fame in the real world is it’s one of the most venomous snakes in Africa if not the entire world.

[@ellie.b.e.]

Here's my question: Can occlumency work when the trainee is carrying a piece of soul of the person trying to breach their mind? Put another way, was Harry bad at Occlumency or was Dumbledore mistaken to think it could work or provide protection (/ using Snape's reports on their lessons to confirm the whole unintended horcrux hypothesis)?

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

“Ah! I just love being manipulated! Ha-Wait” That was a beautiful, hilarious J moment

[@markmarkel5120]

Well done enjoyed your l break down of each of the seven. Great series, with the best hidden twist. This why she wrote the ending first. So she could go back and reveal it all over seven books. Fill in each Horcrux

[@lucaskarniss2445]

1:28 😂😂😂 You guys are hilarious, I’m always entertained watching your channel.

[@TP_Rockstar]

One of the things I feel like a lot of people don't realise is that Harry Potter at its core is a mystery series, not fantasy or urban fantasy. The mystery of each story is what drives the plot forward; Harry wouldn't pursue the Philosopher's stone plot if not for him being there when Hagrid picks up the package in Gringotts and the mystery around it, same with the mysteries around the Chamber of secrets, the reverse mystery around Sirius Black, who put his name in the Goblet and why. and so on. (side note, that's why the story falls apart in the GoF movie, since the mystery is never established to the audience, we know Barty jr. works with Voldemort, the he conjured the mark and that he isn't in Azkaban, so the mystery, and subsequently the story, falls apart). But with all these mysteries and twists I think we need to mention one of the biggest twists you left of this list; Harry was right about Draco in Half-Blood Prince. This book is established exactly the same as the previous five books; a mystery is established, a red herring is presented, Harry falls for the red herring, Harry spends the majority of the book chasing the red herring while egging Ron and Hermione on about his suspicions (with various degrees of success), he accidentaly arrives at the real answer towards the end while chasing the red herring, PLOT TWIST REVEAL and closing the story. Its pretty standard throughout the series, which makes it so jarring when the red herring Harry falls for in HBP is actually the real answer; Draco IS working for Voldemort. And because of his five previous fails on reading the clues, this time nobody believes him. It's a reframing of "The boy (who lived) who cried wolf". Which makes the end hurt so much more when everything that happens happens.

[@rubygracemoseley8144]

Oh yeah. Snape killing Dumbledore was SHOCKING!! I remember when I first read that scene I was just like….how? HOW COULD DUMBLEDORE OF ALL PEOPLE GET KILLED? Like I thought Harry would die before Dumbledore would! I was so shocked!!

[@gabrielleanastasia7]

Prisoner of Azkaban has always stood out as the most twisty turny to me! But Snape actually being a good guy was probably the biggest Whhhhaaaaat!

[@kaylapounds1359]

The first half definitely had that imo. But I feel like it's because we the readers were still learning about all the major players and purposes.