Agatha DELETED DEATH ENDING SCENE | Young Avenger REMOVED From Show

[@drainvigor]

I think it's also evident when Nicky said "my mother needs me" And death came that night

[@aliciacasborne2414]

And he was wearing green.

[@jemappellemerci]

He was referring to Agatha. She was pretending to be a stranger

[@someoctopus8749]

@@jemappellemerciUnexpected double-entendre

[@jondavwal13]

Evident? lol. Hardly.

[@drainvigor]

@jondavwal13 just remember to breathe and say no to drugs 🫶

[@gillesnotard69]

Obviously Rio is the father, Nicky has the exact same face as Aubrey, and he is always referring to Agatha as Mama or Mom, but he said "Mother needs me at home" which was clearly pointed towards Rio.

[@circular_enigma]

You think Nicholas knew he was a stillborn?? Also didn't Agatha say the "made from scratch" line to Rio/death? Why would she need to remind the person who impregnated her how it happened?

[@gillesnotard69]

I think he knew, being the son of a powerful witch and death, he must be powerful enough to know. And since he isn't the father of the Salem Seven here, I can see Rio bringing him back to catch Agatha's ghost.

[@sgpoet47]

If Rio Vidal was the father as a cosmic being of death of course the child was still-born ... that makes me wanna cry harder about Ep. 9

[@Interdimensionaltravelagent]

Just think of how long Death has been living as a single mother.

[@ParticleZon]

I would be really disappointed if whoever picks up this story goes this route. I really loved the way they characterized Death in Agatha All Along a Green Witch. The force of nature constant growth and decay. She holds a knife in one hand and a bloom in the other. I thought the way she exerted her power to deal with Agatha's body was a beautiful depiction of that. I would hate to think that Rio, who loves Agatha, would give her a child knowing he wouldn't survive his birth. Though maybe even Death can't see the Fates ahead and she has to abide by them - she can only stretch them so far.

[@surfacematter2098]

​@@ParticleZonwow. That was interesting!

[@kanidieme]

@@ParticleZon I just had a revelation just by reading your comment. Rio probably knew that he was not going to make it and die, that’s why she agreed to have one so she could persuade Agatha even more to going with her. So they could be together with their son.

[@aliciacasborne2414]

😢

[@KrysUnplugged]

I think the choice not to name nick's father is just to keep the door open to different options in the future. They could double back to the idea that it is Rio, but by not expressly naming that detail, they leave room to go a different direction if it would better suit a new story in the future. I assume nothing is locked in place yet.

[@ParticleZon]

He narrates this as if Jac is just being coy. What she really said is that anything that didn't happen in their story is really out of her hands. She has no control over what some future show runner, writer or executive may decide to do. There's no point in her saying who she thinks the father is. She can say what they thought about in their process, but since it didn't go into the show, it's up for grabs.

[@ArchusTheWarrior]

Beauty of this story is that it is ambiguous, but self-contained. It opens doors as it builds on the past. Yes and. Great storytelling.

[@ChaosandHavoc]

Rio being the other parent makes sense shes a cosmic entity that canonically can create life. The show shows us she can create life when she blooms the flower from her hand and we know she can heal because she heals Agathas cut. Also they call her Death but they are very clear she is the original Green Witch and her magic relates to the whole circle of life. I don’t think Rio wanted Agatha with her in the next life otherwise she wouldn’t have tears in her eyes and walked away without taking Agatha as promised in their convo at the beginning of the episode. Also pretty sure she was trying to restore balance and since Agatha didn’t deliver Billy as she said she would Rio was going to take Agatha. It was a trading of Billy for Agatha to keep the balance. I don’t think that was a portal at the end either I think it’s just the basement door to the outside as shown in the previous episode. Billy drove away he’s still pretty analog I don’t think he’s making portals yet. As for Death following them that would make sense too she told Agatha that she didn’t want Billy giving Tommy a body, then Agatha did it. It’s clear she cant just find them on her own she found Billy on the road, so following them as they find him makes it easier for her. But I don’t know if setting her up as a villain again is a great idea because even though she was pretty hurt and crazy at the end they made her a very caring and sympathetic character too. She let Nicky live longer than he should, she didn’t take him as death but as Rio so she wasn’t as scary to him, thats the last scene we see of her, being sweet and caring. She patient with Agatha getting her out of the hex, she open and vulnerable in front of the fire and defends Agatha to the Coven and tries to protect her from her mother. If they wanted her to be ‘Bad’ they didn’t do well, because you expect Death to be a little edgy and toxic but she’s actually quite caring and compassionate to.

[@ADD3Rv3rd3]

I agree with you on everything expect Rio/Agatha death scene, I think she was teary eyed because Agatha said once she died, she never wanted to see Rio's face again. So that's why it makes sense that she didn't take her to the afterlife and would be sad in the moment. Agatha is finally dead and able to be with her yet, Agatha wants nothing to do with her. And would make another reason for Rio to be behind them when they walked off to show even more respect to Agatha's request. Also, I think Rio was fine taking Billy to balance the scales, like you said, until Agatha hit her with a uno reverse self-sacrifice.

[@dec23]

Yes to everything you said! Also, I'm on the ship that Agatha loves Rio and vice versa. I think Agatha told Rio she didn't want to see her again is because Agatha deflects and blames Rio for taking Nicky. That's not fair and it isn't Rio's fault - she was just following orders (higher power). Plus the fact that Rio and Agatha have had this love/hate relationship for years tells me it's not ending. I feel their "hate'" relationship is just their foreplay, lol.

[@ChaosandHavoc]

@ Yeah Agatha’s defense mechanism is all walls up push anyone who cares as far away as possible. I think when she basically says to Rio I never want to see you again and Rio clearly hurt actually accepts I feel like what we get from Agatha is shock and a little disbelief and hurt, she is use to Rio fighting for her no matter how hard she pushes her away and this time was the last push. Her hurt and anger clearly comes from blaming Rio for taking Nicky even though Rio didn’t kill him she just takes people when they died and Agatha can’t yet even be thankful for the time Rio did give her which hurts Rio which is why I wish the character arc they dealt with in the show was Agatha coming through her grief and seeing what Rio gave rather then took. It was so close to being that but the fact they didn’t actually argue in our in the fight scene so they could get to that place and Rio could actually hear that Agatha has forgiven her is a little disappointing but hopefully if there’s a Season 2 they can get them too that place because for all the hate there is clearly so much love there too. If there’s wasn’t they wouldn’t be hurting each other so much.

[@dec23]

@@ChaosandHavoc my thoughts exactly. Agatha just deflects and blames Rio for Nicky, it's a defense mechanism. Someone else said that when Rio accepts Agatha's last request to leave her alone, they say Agatha looked upset that Rio agreed. I have to look at that scene again.

[@dec23]

@@ChaosandHavoc So I finally re-watched the scene you are referring to, where Agatha tells Rio she doesn't want to see her face when she dies - I could be wrong but I have a different perspective! When Rio accepts the exchange: Billy's life for Rio never seeing Agatha again, I think it might have been another one of Agatha's 'tricks.' Remember Rio just said earlier in the conversation "You were distracting me." Agatha never intended on giving up Billy, it's too painful for her. Remember when Billy was hurt and she was distraught. I think by Agatha saying those hurtful words to Rio, she was betting Rio would say NO to her offer. But, Rio said yes, and you can see the disbelief on Agatha's face. I think the disbelief on Agatha's face says "I can't believe you AGREE to never seeing me again," AND "this means I have to give up Billy." It cuts back to Rio's face and she has a look like "what?" I don't think Rio fell for it. However, I think Rio just hearing those words "I don't ever want to see your face," did hurt Rio. It's apparent she felt the blow, but Rio called her bluff. I could be TOTALLY wrong but that's what I got from seeing the scene again (and again). When Rio walks away, Agatha's face is like "I can't believe she agreed."

[@TheBLSh0w]

The writing was genius when rio called Billy an “abomination”. Any one who grew up having Leviticus thrown in their face felt that.

[@alanvillafana7524]

An Agatha Season 2 should be a prequel about how Agatha and Rio met.

[@Thiccems69]

and then we can do another season on Agatha being a guide for Billy.

[@anthonysolis3795]

Aubrey did such an incredible performance in this show hope to see her back in the screen, would have liked a post credit showing death visually frustrated after the fight because of ghost Agatha, Tommy now reincarnated. Not having him in the show I'm ok with it just cause it would've added to the list of characters we haven't seen since they were introduced

[@SlightyLessEvolved]

Marvel probably didn't include Hulkling because Skrulls aren't super popular right now (thanks for nothing, Secret Invasion).

[@willjohnson8446]

… and they might worry about confusing fans with Hulkling and Skaar, who they just introduced in She-Hulk.

[@srayj]

So true, if it weren’t for the amazing Olivia Coleman, I’d rather just forget that series exists. I do hope that we get a Hulkling though and maybe, because he’s only 16, they just didn’t want Billy to already be in a relationship with his future hubby. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@mydoggylives]

2:30.... Agatha specifically said that he wasn't created with magic.

[@hawkwardart]

agatha said she did no spell or incantation. that he was made from scratch. rio still could’ve knocked her up

[@vickymccreadie1935]

How??????

[@princessmyhand]

@@vickymccreadie1935Remember death can come in any form and use any body parts. Death is not human. How a Godlike being and a human procreate can be unexplainable. Not through Magic nor incantations procreate. The Nicky was meant to be stillborn a perfect example of a child made from death. He is Death’s creation so he was deathly sick. And then he died to be with his Mother Death forever and be reunited with his mother Agatha when she dies. Just a theory.

[@Lexiph]

I always interpreted Nicki being made from scratch as in she carried him full term, since he was a cell, instead of magicking a born baby, you know? Which leaves space for the question of how he was conceived. That could have been Rio's work, or not. But I don't think it would detract from him being made from scratch inside of Agatha for 9 months

[@madamplatypus313]

@@princessmyhand On a similar note, I have a feeling some folks are gonna be in for a shock if/when we get to certain mutants… 😅

[@bartonbagnes4605]

I think I would prefer to see Rio/Death as a character that pesters them, and someone else as the main villain.

[@calamitybrain5012]

I think it's good for them to cut the scene of death following Agatha and Billy only because if nothing ever develops further then the last thing we see of them is death looming behind them. And it Will feel more like a bad Omen than an Easter egg for the future.

[@ronnieclark3673]

I really hope Young Avengers comes along before some of these kids age out. I don’t want to see 35 year-olds playing 16-year-olds

[@grizzadams5490]

I'm glad they cut it. Rio's last shoot telling Billy to go was creepy and sad. I like having that as her last moment on camera. It's like she wanted privacy to morn Agatha.

[@TimDaco]

Awesome Video Warren!!! I assumed Rio was the other "parent" anyway it just makes it hit harder and makes more sense narratively. Woof Woof!

[@ViciousAmbitious911]

I don't think it’s a huge reveal. Rio creates life. We see Wanda creating her sons ( well, creating the souls) without a man. Plus Nicholas looks an awful lot like Aubrey. My question is, does Death have zero consequences? She gave Agatha special treatment and time with Nicholas. She was extremely lenient with taking William’s soul ( gave her a choise between Agatha’s soul or Billy’s) and now I'm pretty sure Tommy’s soul wont be going to the Underworld/ great beyond. does she receive punishment after doing this? I did enjoy Audrey Plaza as Rio/Death and her performance as a crazy bruja was great. No clunkiness at all.

[@Msasha2727]

I’m pretty sure that her and the cosmic entities don’t actually have consequences because they basically are the laws of nature.

[@nicodiangelo6788]

the consequence is most likely the sacred balance being uneven which maybjust bug her or may become like a domino effect where countless consequences from it

[@daikaizouku1468]

I would be interested in seeing Death's siblings (Eternity, Infinity, and Oblivion) rib her on these mishaps. I imagine those family meetings can't be fun for Lady Death XD.

[@danijay6410]

Tbf Agatha and Rio promised abt Billy’s not Tommy. It was Billy or Agatha. So I think Rio might just go and try to find Tommy anyway

[@booington]

agatha all along was such a surprise hit to me. i didn't expect to like it at all

[@Jayydubss]

Samson’s…started off kinda slow but the build up and the way it connected things and had a great story line and heart was a great surprise

[@dec23]

me too! I was telling my friends that this show on Disney+ was actually REALL GOOD. I binged it.

[@pierreder1368]

Kit Connor fits perfectly for Hulkling. Seriously, just like on previous films they cast actors that actually look like the character, Connor looks like Hulkling. Blonde, squared jaw, built, and has worked with Joe before so.. Just make it happen Marvel!

[@maxi_vt]

No. No. No. No. No. Even the actors themselves have said Kit doesn't want to be Hulkling.

[@TipeneThorner]

Kit has said he doesnt want to be Hulkling, or constantly paired alongside Joe

[@nanalove3819]

@@TipeneThorner yeah and I think it's a good thing. I love Hearstopper (I called Teen "Charlie" in my head during all the first part of the season lol), but let's them have separate projects.

[@FabianTilleman]

Kit Connor is a perfect Captain Britain I think 😍

[@ChiTownMade]

Perhaps an agatha season 2 is where we follow Billy & Ghost agatha looking for Tommy. I believe that agatha and rio could be the parents of nick. They had him ethier thru magic or using one of them and man perhaps Mephisto. Favorite Hero: Batman

[@Samuel_Benes]

*OMG, thank you so much.*

[@cosmictruthtortoise]

I really want Nicolas to be a product of a deal with Mephisto. Being stillborn is exactly the kind of thing you would expect from making a deal with the proverbial devil. Why would Rio create a child out of love just to kill it before it was even born?

[@cosmictruthtortoise]

Can't forget the "agent of Mephisto" line.

[@j.j.herrick6871]

I don’t read it as death does the killing. Dying happens and Rio as Death takes them to the next realm.

[@jondavwal13]

@@cosmictruthtortoiseRed herring.

[@regirantanen]

Nicholas IS Mephisto. Rio raised him out of love for Agatha.

[@vvglxy]

Monica Rambeau/Photon needs and deserves her own Disney + series

[@ivanborsuk1110]

"black girl magic"

[@meaguy3216]

Aubrey played the part SO well.

[@PhoenixWitch1]

I hope that Death is getting her own show as i would love to see both Thanos and Deadpool's interaction with her.

[@Domihork]

I would really like to see her reaction to the Blip. From the POV of Elena that we got in Hawkeye, it seems that death didn't take the snapped people but that they kind of "teleported 5 years to the future" (from their POV). But maybe Death did take them. And then had to give them back... Can you imagine? :D

[@jondavwal13]

@@DomihorkThanos did that for death in the comics. They intentionally removed that storyline. Not happening.

[@DrkPacific]

The idea that anyone wouldn’t adore Rio and Agatha is mad?! The chemistry, the writing, the kiss….❤

[@anubusx]

Imagine we saw a scene with Death and Thanos.

[@jarrettwilfred5453]

Imagine it as the ending of a montage of Aubrey Plaza courting genocidal maniacs through the years and instilling their bloodthirsty tendencies

[@jimmysimms2152]

@@jarrettwilfred5453 that sounds awesome

[@randomclod385]

idc it was crap in the comics

[@cosmictruthtortoise]

And just negate the ENTIRE infinity saga? No thanks.

[@xdraconicgaming5204]

I would prefer to see death and deadpool.

[@TwinRiver100]

For the Death following them shot, that was a little disappointing to cut that. The way u framed that sounds fun, making her a reoccurring figure with them. I love the idea of this show getting a season 2. If that's actually in the cards. The Hulkling cut stinks. This place seemed like a good spot to intro him. But not have him do the Skrull thing. Like maybe save that for season 2, that way you get Hulking and Speed taken care of all at once. I originally assumed Hulkling would show up as one of the skrulls at the Skrull safe haven places in Secret Invasion. But I'm kind of glad they didn't do that. That show was very disappointing, I really wanted more from that and didn't like how Marvel handled that storyline. I'm curious to see how they make a Death mini series. I don't think I see them bringing RDJ or Scarjo in this. They sound a little expensive. And I don't know if Disney wants to pay them the high price tag. I could almost see RDJ in this if that contract they got for him to play Doom and do a few things like ride stuff. Not sure if they included stuff like mini series. Would love it if they had him in it, but don't think they'll do it. I'd love to see Death reject Thanos, but not do the full thing from the comics. I love Rio's relationship with Agatha. But I also hope she has some form of affection for Deadpool as well and they have some weird fun relationship. I just don't want to Smash the other ship. I kind of want both ships if possible. But not sure if that works.

[@randomclod385]

She's death, she can have both.

[@JosefinaQB]

i hope its just a small reference for thanos and rios relationship, like they have all these slight nods to her and agatha relationship an nods to agathas sexuality- so i hope if we see rio again theres some slight nod about her sexuality and maybe could be like thanos is an example of her being bisexual or smthn ykno lol idk

[@PopsAlley]

The Young Avengers will be in their 40's by the time Disney gets to them... Just get the MVS over with, reboot and then do everything properly and with a PLAN. And I Adore Rio and Aubrey Plaza, but no. We do Not need another fluff show for Death, a character that just does not make sense at this point to give a show to and honestly, would be better served used in Movies and cameos. Death is NOT a character that needs their own show or movie. Just like so many others since phase 4, Just like Echo. We did Not need that. We did not need a Half baked Secret Invasion for the sake of Secret Invasion. Just my 2 cents, but really, think about it and the Big Picture of things.

[@anotherhealingjourneybegins]

Idk, me personally, I would LOVE a Death show. She could literally interact with any character that's died before. Captain America, Black Widow, Thanos, etc. That would be fun to see and also to get more info on her and Agatha. I also very much enjoyed Echo. Besides it being an interesting story about her, we got more story about Kingpin, some Daredevil also. I do agree Secret Invasion sucked, though. I liked the action of the last half, but it just felt so boring to get through, as much as I like Nick Fury. Everyone sees it differently, but I do love having so many options of shows and films to watch. It mirrors the comics. You go to a comic shop on new release Wednesday and it's FULL of character solo stories, team stories, etc. And like the comics, you don't have to read/watch them all. Each product will resonate with a different audience anyways. However, I do think when Young Avengers hits, it's gonna be cool! Think Endgame, it took us a long string of films to get to that. The buildup is part of what makes it fun, for me anyway.

[@anotherhealingjourneybegins]

@PopsAlley is she not coming back for Young Avengers? I heard rumors she was going to be coming back for a team project in the future

[@madamplatypus313]

Buddy, it’s been nearly 20 years, most people are plenty aware there are more than five Marvel characters now. Also, the weirdly still persistant idea in this century that 20-somes aren’t young aside, LBR, literally all that would mean is we get to the wedding quicker. 😊

[@loutzenheiser6081]

Give me more Rio please. A solo show for her would be awesome

[@danielphillipsterling4830]

I don’t think so, Agatha said she made him without any spells, from “scratch”

[@LucashhLima]

Death could shape shift (or partially shape shift) and make Nich from scratch with Agatha, if you know what I mean.

[@oliviafrancis-g7y]

@@LucashhLimadang 💀

[@burkhartlaw1]

Eddie looks just like the kid from My So Called Life, a show from way back in the day that introduced a teenaged Jared Leto and Claire Danes.

[@calamitybrain5012]

Aubry is great as death, But a huge point of her character is her her ability to be fairly neutral about almost anything. The only time in the comics she isn't seems to be regarding when she falls in love. So death is a character in a show like Agatha where she has scenes with someone she used to be in love with works very well. But outside of that she doesn't have a major character and she's way too powerful. She's ultimate. You can't Nerf her. She's death. Her weakness is occasionally being in love with things and people. Other than that, the show would just be her collecting bodies. Escorting them through a door. I would certainly love to see her in a bunch of marvel things where she shows up and is just death in the marvel universe constantly in different shows. That would be awesome. But I don't think she needs to be in her own show

[@musicron2740]

It was a portal to the outside....from the basement.

[@travis5141]

I have a feeling we will see more of Speed in the Vision show

[@TipeneThorner]

The hunt for Speed is apparently going to be its own AAA spinoff

[@nickzwieg706]

Awesome video

[@earlfrancart5687]

the other ending would have been perfect, dropping hulkling sucks, hopefully they dont take long to bring him in

[@luziel3071]

If they do make a Death series I would much rather find out more about her history with Agatha there’s still so many unanswered questions about their relationship. We know why Agatha ended up hating Rio but we know next to nothing about what happened before that. Like how did they meet, how is Rio as Death tolerating Agathas mass murders (I personally think there is two options here either Rio doesn’t judge the morality of it and just does her job or the murders are part of why she wants Agatha dead because they helped Agatha extend her life and she was actually supposed to die a long time ago) and also what did their adventure that are mentioned in Ep 4 entail? There’s so much potential material there to build both of these characters backgrounds more I would really love to see it

[@AnthonySmith-bj9mo]

hi The Cosmic Wonder

[@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO]

By the time they set up the young Avengers they are all gonna be in their mid to late 20s 💀

[@Hi.-.art1233]

Fr💀

[@madamplatypus313]

Ignoring the obvious fact most of these actors are already in their 20s aside, it’s the 21st century, pal, we don’t die in our 30s anymore. 😂 Besides, the older they are, the less time we have to wait for the wedding. 😊

[@NYCangel69]

Agatha says right after she gives birth " Nicolas made from scratch."

[@cosmictruthtortoise]

🤞I hope it's Mephisto.

[@StrangeStartrackerArt]

@@cosmictruthtortoise Isn't he Agatha's father in the comics? I think I saw that somewhere.

[@nicholasdemonte3617]

That would have been a cool scene or even used as a post credit scene that she is following them and we will see her again

[@kattheartist978]

I would love a series of just death collecting all the souls of the people that died in the MCU. But on the other hand we already had scenes of characters that just "woke up" after death, like Jane Foster in Thor Love and Thunder and Steven Grant in Moonknight. But just Death chatting with all the MCU characters would be grat!

[@averagegamer9975]

Agatha hates death (Rio) to the point that she said when I die I don't wanna see your face. Going forward there won't be any interaction between the two unless it's flash backs

[@joeyngo6909]

I do think we're gonna get a Thanos & death scene because in the comics he does the snap just to impress her but it would be cool to see Thanos make Deadpool immortal to keep him from dying and away from flirting with Death (his crush)☺

[@johnnymanize]

If Death would be pissed off with anyone, you’d think it’d be the Avengers. When Thanos collected all 6 Infinity Stones in Infinity War, he used them to kill half of all life throughout the universe. Then 5 years later in Endgame, the surviving heroes travel back in time to get the stones in the past after Thanos destroyed them in the present, and used them to resurrect everyone who was taken. Trillions of dead people being brought back to life is definitely something you wouldn’t think Death would ignore

[@Truck-kuns]

2:45 She said he was created from scratch without a spell. I assumed no magic was used. My theory is because of that Death has to take him assuming that was against the rules

[@mariomendoza3422]

We don’t need a death series. She should def be a pop up character though

[@williamholsey]

They need to do a backstory going back to the infinity wars where she’s courting Thanos but not giving him the time of day like in the comics

[@anthonylagreca7449]

It’s okay they didn’t add hulkling but I would love to see death visit stark and thanos before they had passed

[@LovetoallLivingCreatures]

Bring Hunkling!! Such a cute couple!!!

[@bmluc92]

death also has had a relationship with deadpool.....a cat and mouse chase kind of thing because he can't die.

[@randomclod385]

Idc if Thanos and death exist. She used him, had no interest in him. Her and Agatha had a better relationship Deadpool like it wild, but h found a gal.

[@hannaberga7063]

I wanted to know more about Teddy and it's kind of disappointing they'll have to break them up

[@angelicagolindano_art]

This is a New Rockstars thumbnail.

[@ensabahnur827]

Im sure marvel has a specific plan for all young avengers characters maybe an updated plan with hulkling after resukof secret invasion not having death follow them at thecend was probably because of the fear of another unanswered thread marvel has keft in many places but the reception to death has now changed

[@Glowbus-k9k]

I would’ve been a lot less irked with the ending if it had had death following them, but it still would’ve had a lot of shortcomings

[@kat4t]

They needed to tie in the whole Agatha is a mentor to the Scarlet Witch part of the comics too, so Billy is going to be a surrogate in that aspect. Agatha is going to be a mentor to Billy in ghost form, rather than how it I in the comics.

[@QUBIQremixer]

I'd love to see the army Death is building. It would be great to see The Coven come back and battle Agatha and Billy. Agatha could pull them all over and REALLY piss off Death.

[@undisclosed_branding9714]

Is Nicholas not Death and Agathas child? I thought it was implied that becasue he is a child of death this is why he is still-born. Agatha gets more time with him but ultimately he was men't to go with death from birth

[@blackbeltmessiah]

Death gave her wish even though she betrayed her. Unless the writers spoke on this to say otherwise this is how I saw this.

[@MrRobeStern64]

0:48 oooooo dsi? Or is that a 3ds can’t tell because of the camera

[@luziel3071]

I actually don’t think Rio was trying to kill Agatha. Billy had just agreed to go with her so she was ready to take him and then Agatha decided to save Billy and give in to her feelings for Rio (at least momentarily). She distracts Rio and I think she actually tries to take some of Rios power, which I think could have multiple motivations. Rio doesn’t want Agatha dead the way she is right now. She wants her accessible to her, so either alive or fully dead. Rio cries when Agatha dies cause she clearly didn’t get what she wanted to happen.

[@troywhite7858]

I think they should have still introduced him cause now we expect Billy bf to be him and unless they give him another bf it would have made more sense to just introduce him as hawkling. Or some clue

[@falloutgar918]

I mean Agatha literally said Nicholas was made from scratch, so no. 2:31

[@Glowbus-k9k]

There are nonmagical ways to make a baby when two ppl are involved kiddo :)

[@TipeneThorner]

So we have the personification of the Demiurge/Life aka Billy/Wiccan and we have a rumoured spinoff about the hunt for Speed/Tommy aka the personification of Time. Imagine Time/Speed/Tommy and Life/the Demiurge/Billy/Wiccan fighting Rio Vidal aka Lady Death

[@sneakernickel]

Agatha said she made him with no magic or incantations, no spells. She literally said that out loud.

[@Magdalena8008s]

As much as I'd love to see Hulkling. I agree with Marvel. Theres already alot of character introduced that we haven't seen anymore of. We dont need to be adding more and more. Lets flesh out many of what we already have. Feige knows this. Im sure this is the reason. Doesnt mean new characters can't show up. But for now. Let's build some more groundwork with what we have.

[@timjim3534]

Woof woof

[@DemiDemon94]

Now while im not opposed to the idea of rio being the "father" agatha specifically said to nickie "I spoke no spell, i said no incantation, you i made from scratch." When he was born, so the idea they made him together with magic can't b trye but death technically is a genderless being so while rio looks female whats to say she doesn't have male genitalia or can swap if she chooses.

[@heyjude9703]

What unwed father hasn't had this thought at some point? Take him away from a toxic mother.

[@ArchusTheWarrior]

I never understood why Agatha couldn’t face Nicolas Scratch. Because she would have to explain that she was killing witches to keep his life force going? Why was she guilty to face her own son whom she loved and protected at all costs?

[@Callimachus33]

Agatha specifically said there was no magic involved in creating Nicky.

[@kmallory100]

I don't want more Rio. I want to continue Jennifer Kale's journey who will probably show up in Midnight Suns.

[@carolineneisha]

I would have loved to see that ending, with Rio following them…

[@FabianTilleman]

I hope Kit Connor is playing Captain Britain in the future 😊

[@terryparsons2078]

It's a shame that thanos never saw death seeing in the comics he uses the infinity gauntlet to impress her and tries to get her love

[@jondavwal13]

That storyline was deleted as being ridiculous for a movie.

[@famousgoldentouch]

WHO needs Hulkling when we have Skaar instead 😂 ?! (Ofc MCU based)

[@MarvelFan-zi9wq]

I wish Kate Bishop or Ms. marvel appeared in the end to recruit Wiccan.

[@Exiled.New.Yorker]

Deadpool/Lady Death is a cannon ship.

[@_millyrock17]

Woof woof

[@59rlmccormack]

Rio’s job may be understandable, but she is still a freaky arse nightmare.

[@darkside5674]

I would love to see a spin off of Death. How Death deal with Thanos snap. She collects billions of souls and then let them alive again? How she would deal with this..

[@Interdimensionaltravelagent]

There has to be a good reason Marvel didn't want to introduce a popular character.

[@jennyzenkner2094]

Agatha said she made him without spells when she was in labor

[@LJupiter89]

Nobody wants any more hulk bullshit. Nobody.

[@Hi.-.art1233]

Fr

[@SlyFoxZack]

I have a feeling that hulkling will be replaced by Skaar in young avengers.

[@tdhdusty]

I think death is the father you heard Agatha say she liked the bad boys she/he is a cosmic entity death can take any form. That’s my guess anyway

[@jillneverumind7229]

Agatha already said she made Nicholas from scratch; without magic. ...So no, not Rio.

[@Glowbus-k9k]

There are nonmagical ways to make a baby when two ppl are involved kiddo :)

[@jillneverumind7229]

@Glowbus-k9k 2 "women" in 1750?! What?! By mixing "snakes and snails and puppy dog tails"?!

[@Glowbus-k9k]

Death is a cosmic being that can appear in any form, she is not human. She could have any genitals for all we know. I’m not arguing anymore kid

[@Capcakesguy]

Im almost positive in the show, Agatha herself says he was made without magic. When she was giving birth to him, so its unlikely that Rio and Agatha created him.

[@jondavwal13]

Thank you.

[@priceben11]

It’s also very psychotic 😂👏🏻

[@tjs114]

Wasn't Agatha All Along promoted as a mini-series in the same way as WandaVision, as in a one-and-done? Now that doesn't mean they might not make another mini-series; but it won't be Agatha...Technically her story is done.

[@Domihork]

Eddie could still be Teddy. Agatha is now at Billy's side and she likes to mispronounce or change people's names. She could simply say "Is that you boyfriend Teddy?" and they would be enough of a confimation that MCU's Eddie is the adaptation of Teddy. Also, nobody seems to have noticed that in the final scene, Agatha said Tommy's name correctly!

[@jondavwal13]

Already confirmed he is not Teddy.

[@PatriceFote]

I don’t think death came for Natasha since she was a soul stone sacrifice hence why there was no bringing her back by any means maybe the stone took her soul straight up as payment hence why her body was lifeless without it just a theory lol

[@mo6live]

Death doesn’t need a whole show

[@NoShowKJ]

🎉

[@lilvietgirl299]

Just because Agatha didn’t use magic to make Nicky doesn’t mean Rio didn’t

[@coffeeshakes86]

I'm Not super into a ton of these side character series. I get that they want a set up and back stories for them but they Always make it too childish. I'd rather see them show up in movies with important scenes and situational impacts on the main MCU storyline. If that makes sense ... Lol 🤙🏻🤙🏻

[@blublazn007]

Vision is the next season. Wanda- s1 Agatha-s2 Vision-s3

[@AderynBach42]

Deadpool used to date Lady Death too.