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This Old Tony

This Old Tony

Күн бұрын

Where'd my compression go? Let's find out!
Music:
Ersatz Bossa (Sting)-John Deley and the 41 Players

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@Yoshikaable
@Yoshikaable 4 жыл бұрын
"First, I love you" You don't even know how much a lot of us needed that...
@EgoIsFlawed
@EgoIsFlawed 4 жыл бұрын
Heard that and missed his next sentence entirely laughing.
@larslansing5618
@larslansing5618 4 жыл бұрын
Lol it felt so genuine
@mJlReplicanT001
@mJlReplicanT001 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely couldn’t agree more. Even the love part !! 🤣🤣 hahaha. Jokes TOT ! Or is it... Crreeeeppppy maaaan stalking yooou !! Hahahah
@EcoGreensFarm
@EcoGreensFarm 4 жыл бұрын
So fucking true
@EcoGreensFarm
@EcoGreensFarm 4 жыл бұрын
@@mJlReplicanT001 I like to think a little of both. A smidge.
@Kashed
@Kashed 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently regular maintenance on a trials bike is every 25 miles.
@livium2002
@livium2002 4 жыл бұрын
Maintenance on these bikes is expressed usually in hours
@kaptein1247
@kaptein1247 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Alley what?
@loydsa
@loydsa 4 жыл бұрын
Many many years ago I had a Yamaha TY250, that required maintenance pretty much every 25 inches :-)
@thedamnyankee1
@thedamnyankee1 4 жыл бұрын
I had no idea a trials bike was even a thing until Tony started talking about them.
@LifeRunner4000
@LifeRunner4000 4 жыл бұрын
You must mean minutes.
@maruchinu
@maruchinu 4 жыл бұрын
Compression issues? Maybe it's finally time to buy that WinRAR license...
@AlanShortySwanson
@AlanShortySwanson 4 жыл бұрын
😬
@butre.
@butre. 4 жыл бұрын
yall know 7zip exists, right?
@stoutlager6325
@stoutlager6325 4 жыл бұрын
never
@EthanSeville
@EthanSeville 4 жыл бұрын
Tar -xf
@EcoGreensFarm
@EcoGreensFarm 4 жыл бұрын
30 years later, Goonies never say buy a WinRAR license!
@erikig
@erikig 4 жыл бұрын
0:05 As a wise man from the north once said “Tappy Tap Tap...”
@LaLaLand.Germany
@LaLaLand.Germany 3 жыл бұрын
Since i found that guy all the other reviews and stuff seems boring and lame.
@jadeolin8514
@jadeolin8514 3 жыл бұрын
Happy Gilmore?
@n6y6h6
@n6y6h6 3 жыл бұрын
Ave🤣
@blazunlimited
@blazunlimited 2 ай бұрын
Blondihacks? Not a man.
@msmith2961
@msmith2961 4 жыл бұрын
Just chuck the cylinder head in the freezer for a bit and that bore measurement will be proper good :)
@mwilliamshs
@mwilliamshs 4 жыл бұрын
How would cold shrinking the head change the dimension of the cylinder? They're 2 different parts. Even if you're thinking is conduction, the mass of the head is maybe 1/3 that of the cylinder.
@papapetad
@papapetad 4 жыл бұрын
@@mwilliamshs Being a 2 stroke engine, designations change. Intead of block/head, you get head/crankcase.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb 4 жыл бұрын
@@papapetad Wrong. There are some two smokers where the head and cylinder are combined in one piece and cannot be separated, for those it would be most appropriate to call the whole thing a cylinder, not a head. You take the cylinder off from the crankcase and there is no separate head. But most of them have separate head and cylinder just as on a four smoke engine of similar design. The engine in the film is of the latter design.
@skunkjobb
@skunkjobb 4 жыл бұрын
@@mwilliamshs Even if it was a joke, the joke would have been better with the relevant engine part as you point out. To put the cylinder in the freezer would have made more sense, at least for a short while.
@jonharrington4454
@jonharrington4454 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha hold my Beer
@mprecup
@mprecup 4 жыл бұрын
“Just to be sure, I changed both brake rotors.” Classic!
@tcmtech7515
@tcmtech7515 4 жыл бұрын
Rather like how 90% of all carburetor problems are ignition related.
@TomHaroldArt
@TomHaroldArt 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like such an idiot. My minivan has been down on power for about six months now, and it never occurred to me to look at the rotors! I'm so ashamed. Here I was sure it was the wiper blades.
@hollodollo4771
@hollodollo4771 4 жыл бұрын
@@tcmtech7515 I think thats only because ignition is really only 100% or 0% it doesn't have a value like clogged filters slowly decreasing flow
@hollodollo4771
@hollodollo4771 4 жыл бұрын
@@TomHaroldArt I mean the only logical place to look for an engine problem is the brake rotors
@TomHaroldArt
@TomHaroldArt 4 жыл бұрын
@@hollodollo4771 EXACTLY! It's always where you least expect it!
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 4 жыл бұрын
“...kick this thing like it owes me money...”’ I always suspected ToT was a loan shark for the mob.
@bigcheese781
@bigcheese781 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's ToT the mob goes for loans...
@livium2002
@livium2002 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine an italian guy saying This Old Tony
@RustyPetterson
@RustyPetterson 4 жыл бұрын
That was the funniest line out of a video that had so many... I LOL'd at loads of points on this one. Bravo!
@Vaasref
@Vaasref 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty obvious considering his latest mill ...
@thefunkosaurus
@thefunkosaurus 4 жыл бұрын
"all over my bullets, and everything. " 22:13
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 жыл бұрын
For the curious: the reverse audio part was, "The only thing I'm changing are the piston and the rings."
@ratataran
@ratataran 4 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for going thru the trouble of doing that!
@FPanka
@FPanka 4 жыл бұрын
Reverse? I thought it was polish.
@c0nstantin86
@c0nstantin86 4 жыл бұрын
@@FPanka loool
@YG-cf9wt
@YG-cf9wt 4 жыл бұрын
I was sure it will say 'Subscibe'
@bobedwards8896
@bobedwards8896 4 жыл бұрын
how did u reverse it? to find out
@MaximumChips
@MaximumChips 4 жыл бұрын
Watching this totally qualifies me to fix someone else's bike now.
@jasonvossbrink2296
@jasonvossbrink2296 4 жыл бұрын
Not your own?
@MaximumChips
@MaximumChips 4 жыл бұрын
@@jasonvossbrink2296 Fixing someone else's bike and making all the mistakes there then qualifies me to work on my own.
@wojciech_migda
@wojciech_migda 4 жыл бұрын
Never ever start on your own bike should be the motto for everyone. Besides what are good friends for - for having their bikes fixed :-).
@v8snail
@v8snail 4 жыл бұрын
@@wojciech_migda If mates aren't happy with the professional job you do then they should bite the bullet and learn how to wreck their own bike. . .
@matz1011
@matz1011 2 жыл бұрын
Sure dous
@kjfuson92
@kjfuson92 4 жыл бұрын
For future endeavours Tony, A leak down test is arguably more important than a compression test with two stroke engines. Basically you plug the intake on the carb, and the exhaust on the head, and pump it up through the spark plug hole to around 7 psi or so. It should hold for a few minutes. If pressure drops some over a few minutes, or bleeds off entirely, you can use soapy water to find the leak. This checks for seals on the crank, reeds hanging open, case damage, reed block gaskets etc. I havent seen the reveal yet so i dont know if you were right or not, but its a good test to keep in mind. Especially if you find its running lean and cant fifure out why. Also, as im sure you know, every bike has a service life for the top end, X amount of hours.
@ddswitala1829
@ddswitala1829 4 жыл бұрын
yep and a wrist pin bearing always accompanies a top end rebuild
@francisrampen9099
@francisrampen9099 4 жыл бұрын
... and a vacuum test - critical for two strokes. Leak down testing is way more repeatable then compression tests and it tells you where the issue is immediately. Test hot at TDC
@davemcdaniel4856
@davemcdaniel4856 4 жыл бұрын
So, just to mess with you Tony. Pistons are not machined perfectly round when cold. They are machined to grow to circular when at operating temperature. Even el cheapo pistons. Forged race pistons have full 3d machining for growth at temp. The piston bore is also not checked or bored just sitting free air. It should be torqued down with torque plates to simulate the stresses of the head and block in place, which changes the bore shape due to the elastic deformation of the clamping loads. On your trials bike, you found it's a thousandth or less. Hard core race engines are bored at operating temp with torque plates installed to simulate the head, accessory, trans and block deformation and are effectively seized when not clamped together to create the clearances.
@MindBlowerWTF
@MindBlowerWTF 4 жыл бұрын
In most cases they are tapered or diameter below rings is slightly bigger than the diameter above the ring.
@bkperformance6037
@bkperformance6037 4 жыл бұрын
Thats how we do ours, tapered ever so slightly, especially on CI sleeves because of the growth rate of the different metals.
@shannons1886
@shannons1886 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome insight!
@makinwaves8147
@makinwaves8147 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow. That’s interesting to know for sure!
@Shaun.Stephens
@Shaun.Stephens 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if anyone would mention this. The reasons they change from oval to round at operating temp is that there's more meat where the wrist pin goes so more expansion in that direction than the thinner front and back. Also with a 2-stroke there's more heat at the exhaust port so more expansion at the front of the piston.
@austinplummer6549
@austinplummer6549 4 жыл бұрын
3:35 “and the kill switch is on” don’t forget that, don’t want it starting with that compression tester in the spark plug hole
@4n2earth22
@4n2earth22 4 жыл бұрын
Or getting the snot knocked out of you by being the best conductor around for that great coil......
@lynspyre
@lynspyre 4 жыл бұрын
So he had the *killswitch engaged* lml
@magicoddeffect
@magicoddeffect 4 жыл бұрын
How would it start without a spark plug? Can a 2-stroke ignite on compression alone? I thought that was a diesel thing
@JukeboxJake
@JukeboxJake 4 жыл бұрын
@@magicoddeffect are you being serious?
@sneaky3685
@sneaky3685 4 жыл бұрын
@@lynspyre i see what you did there
@rogergoulder3821
@rogergoulder3821 4 жыл бұрын
This Old Tony existentially essential in these here difficult times.
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn
@Hopeless_and_Forlorn 4 жыл бұрын
After watching my European heroes contest an Inter-Am motocross meet, I went out and bought a 1970 CZ 250 MX. I had never ridden a dirt bike but assumed I would be an instant Joel Robert on such a mount. The owner's manual did not expand on the terms of the factory warranty (Both Halves Are Yours), but rather gave instruction on how to win races. Before each contest, it suggested, I should fit a new piston and ride the bike hard to see if it seized, repeating the process until satisfied that the piston would last the race. It also recommended a new chain for each race. CZ chains had individual bronze sleeves between each roller and pin, and were priced accordingly. Being used to torquey street bikes, I stalled the CZ several times before getting it moving for my first ride. Broke my collarbone twice the first year I had it, and never had so much fun in my life. Every once in a while I watch a VHS copy of On Any Sunday to relive the thrills.
@bbumpy4523
@bbumpy4523 4 жыл бұрын
Excuse me TOT, there are at least 3 of us who wanted to see the inside of that cylinder bore.....thanks for sharing.
@sp10sn
@sp10sn 4 жыл бұрын
809k subscribers 15 years from now: "There's no way I'm paying someone else to do what I'm fully qualified to do myself since I watched that video fifteen years ago."
@straightpipestudio6026
@straightpipestudio6026 4 жыл бұрын
fingers crossed in 15 years we'll still have 2-strokes to rebuild!
@joshdrexler8773
@joshdrexler8773 4 жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed, in 15 years ... we ...
@immortalsofar5314
@immortalsofar5314 4 жыл бұрын
You do realise that we now think we're qualified because we watched you on _this_ video?
@joesosnowski2568
@joesosnowski2568 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the old this old Tony was hardcore enough to have made that piston.
@MasterArrow
@MasterArrow 4 жыл бұрын
I don't remember a time when he would make anything that would interact with explosions you sit on lmao
@petittoto7433
@petittoto7433 4 жыл бұрын
I tried once to make one for a 50cc but failed so I made the skirt and used the middle of the old piston to fix the axe. It did about 3 km. I came home using the pedals and passed in front of policeman who lough at me. A part of their job was to catch young going more than 30km/h. He didn't know that before I was at 70...
@Garbaz
@Garbaz 4 жыл бұрын
You mean The Older Tony
@electrofly23
@electrofly23 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hey! Who are you, and what did you do with That real Old Tony?
@brianluck84
@brianluck84 4 жыл бұрын
Abom would have made one
@dk-bw4gk
@dk-bw4gk 4 жыл бұрын
Nothing's out of spec here, you just happen to have a B cylinder now.
@kilrahvp
@kilrahvp 4 жыл бұрын
And if you notice he got a B piston too!
@svampebob007
@svampebob007 4 жыл бұрын
@@kilrahvp yeah I don't know why he didn't mention it! for somebody that doesn't know anything about engines and all the numbers he talked about, that kinda worried me.
@liebherr11602
@liebherr11602 4 жыл бұрын
@@svampebob007 he's illiterate, that's why he missed the B ..he would have caught the 8
@svampebob007
@svampebob007 4 жыл бұрын
@@liebherr11602 and went with 9 anyway, because that's close enough.
@erikraagaard124
@erikraagaard124 4 жыл бұрын
Saw that to. TOT you scrup
@capnthepeafarmer
@capnthepeafarmer 4 жыл бұрын
I wasn't believing my compression tester one day, it was saying my perfectly running car had 0 psi of compression. Turns out the adapter side had a wasp nest in it and the schrader valve on the other side was rusted. Cleaned those out and it worked perfectly. Even with little use, just checking and spraying with WD40 every so often works wonders.
@reelrebellion7486
@reelrebellion7486 4 жыл бұрын
I've heard that if you use a green marker instead of blue, and go arround the edge of the piston, you get better sound.
@OhShitSeriously
@OhShitSeriously 4 жыл бұрын
Has to be the right green marker. Wood piston rings help more anyway.
@wedreamtogether
@wedreamtogether 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, apply the green marker in a clockwise direction if the engine is north of the equator.
@jimc3688
@jimc3688 4 жыл бұрын
That’s to defeat the DRM license also.
@CitroenDS23
@CitroenDS23 9 ай бұрын
@@OhShitSeriously You jest... I knew a guy at high school that turned a wooden piston to repair his dirt bike. He checked it ran (very well apparently) and promptly sold it. 60 minutes after sale the dude turned up saying "WTF it doesn't go at all now" only to hear "tough shit, your bike". Yeah, the guy I knew wasn't a friend of mine and that is exactly the behaviour I'd have expected from him and his family.
@LordandGodofYouTube
@LordandGodofYouTube 4 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to get that twitch that I get when I'm coming down off of TOT, pretty soon I'll be breaking into my grandmother's house, rifling through her VCR collection to see if there's any TOT on there, hanging out on street corners, offering favors for just a little fresh TOT. I get chills every time I walk past my local machine shop, they won't let me in anymore... I got so excited yesterday when a guy sold me a USB stick for $20, he told me there was some fresh TOT on there, but it was just some Abom79. But in all seriousness, I hope you and your family are safe and well and I hope you're back with a video soon.
@leadgindairy3709
@leadgindairy3709 4 жыл бұрын
I got all the TOT you need man, great price and its high quality stuff too. Lol. I know the feeling though man, i just started TOToholics anonymous, great program.
@chriskaprys
@chriskaprys 4 жыл бұрын
If ToT is an amateur, I’d be terrified to know him in his professional capacity. 😍
@andrewesther4705
@andrewesther4705 4 жыл бұрын
chris kaprys he’s a professional amateur.
@TheHungrySlug
@TheHungrySlug 4 жыл бұрын
4:16 AM wife sleeping Me: watching This Old Tony Life is good. For now!
@fryreartechnology7611
@fryreartechnology7611 4 жыл бұрын
Open Minded Air Head my baby is napping so time to sit and relax got 45 minute left but neighbor just started revving up his demolition derby car with open exhaust that will last until dark tonight like every day since his job was not essential....
@TheHungrySlug
@TheHungrySlug 4 жыл бұрын
@@fryreartechnology7611 That's the sort of thing that makes me happy I live just outside of town. It's harder to annoy neighbors ;)
@DavidKutzler
@DavidKutzler 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheHungrySlug My Uncle Vernon was a professional mechanic and a bit of a philosopher. His take was, "If you can't take a piss in your own back yard without the neighbors getting an eyeful, it's time to move further out of town."
@TheHungrySlug
@TheHungrySlug 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidKutzler That's some sentiment I can get behind!
@ANDYMCNET
@ANDYMCNET 4 жыл бұрын
"Turn around, Turn around she's behind you"
@pitts78
@pitts78 4 жыл бұрын
Tony, I’m baked and this feels like high school shop class. That was 25yrs ago, lol. Thanks so much for the memories. Keep it up.
@HandToolRescue
@HandToolRescue 4 жыл бұрын
What's a magazine article?
@tvsinesperanto7446
@tvsinesperanto7446 3 жыл бұрын
OK Millennial. Disclaimer: I'm 50 and officially already an old fart. My descent into "GET OFF MY LAWN YOU DAMN KIDS!" is going to be an easy one.
@runninggag1077
@runninggag1077 3 жыл бұрын
It's like if someone printed out a blog post. like the Amish do.
@danieltreffenstadt1826
@danieltreffenstadt1826 4 жыл бұрын
Quite enjoy your mechanic videos! On a sidenote: pistons and cylinders aren't necessarily meant to be cylindrical when they're cold, they're often manufactured to account for different heat expansion due to their geometry, so a measurement of roundness might not always be super meaningful.
@n2n8sda
@n2n8sda 4 жыл бұрын
Good point, I've seen many a tapered piston, assume it's to account for slightly different rates of expansion between top and bottom
@jpkalishek4586
@jpkalishek4586 4 жыл бұрын
Old Smokey Yunick discovered that way back when after designing a fixture to hone cylinders perfectly round, and the engines not making power until they wore to a certain pattern. Then special plates, and preheating of the block was done to get close to as round as possible while running.
@padraicmcguire108
@padraicmcguire108 4 жыл бұрын
Cylinders are always round. For very high perf engines (think Nascar and NHRA) honing plates are bolted to the block to mimic the distortion caused by bolting the head to the block. The block is then honed round. The honing plate removed. The bores egg shape a tiny bit. The heads are installed and torqued, they are round again! Pistons will have a circular section profile on the piston skirts and contract a bit near the wrist pin.
@someoneelse7629
@someoneelse7629 4 жыл бұрын
@@padraicmcguire108 I didn't know I was building high performance engines, but I always use stressplates when boring and honing
@WAVETUBE84
@WAVETUBE84 4 жыл бұрын
The cylinders are bored straight. But the pistons have a "barrel" shape: do to heat/expansion. The skirts are thin and flare out a lot during operation. On an extremely worn cylinders,: you can sometimes hear the piston skirts slap, when cold, during the first few revolutions.... There are also machined cuts across the pistons at certain areas to limit the conduction/travel of heat (from the blazingly hot crown to the thin skirts). Some pistons have steel inserts cast into them...to control expansion as well. Cast pistons expand and contract less than forged pistons...but both have pluses and minuses. Just saying.
@pppaybackkk
@pppaybackkk 4 жыл бұрын
Tony says "hone the bore" I heard the h and b get swapped, but then again, I've been in lockdown for too long.
@tomf3150
@tomf3150 4 жыл бұрын
Aye...
@LeglessWonder
@LeglessWonder 4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@andersjjensen
@andersjjensen 4 жыл бұрын
Ahahaha... took me a few to decipher what you were getting at.. Good one!
@lickit77
@lickit77 4 жыл бұрын
well I heard it as "hone the bone"
@gregkieser1157
@gregkieser1157 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, that is a top quality comment. 😎
@timothyzhelnovakov5586
@timothyzhelnovakov5586 4 жыл бұрын
You can make anything look or seem interesting, ty for the content
@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke
@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke 4 жыл бұрын
Everything motorcycle related is interesting
@Darthwarrior
@Darthwarrior 4 жыл бұрын
I guess the old spinsters who have alot of cats and hate everything and everyone to include persons walking on their lawn and persons who are young.
@orijimi
@orijimi 4 жыл бұрын
The amount of comedy material he manages to put together in these timeframes and with everything else he's having to do for these is just unbelievable, honestly.
@dr.zarkhov9753
@dr.zarkhov9753 4 жыл бұрын
@@orijimi I've been thinking the same thing.
@aubreymarsh2309
@aubreymarsh2309 4 жыл бұрын
Tony, do you ever think, "A quarter of a million people watched this in a day?" You deserve it and more. Baby, you're gorgeous!
@robertwatsonbath
@robertwatsonbath 4 жыл бұрын
If ToT can feel ridges is the piston with his finger nails, that scoring must be deep. Just kidding TotT :)
@quadmasta
@quadmasta 4 жыл бұрын
LOL
@gokblok
@gokblok 3 жыл бұрын
That's funnier than people think
@thomasesr
@thomasesr 4 жыл бұрын
AvE Aaaand This old tony on the same day. What a treat!
@mtcruse
@mtcruse 4 жыл бұрын
It's a good day, Tater...
@generaldisarray
@generaldisarray 4 жыл бұрын
Did you see that "weld job" AvE did , hell Stevie Wonder could have done better...lol 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@cliveclapham6451
@cliveclapham6451 4 жыл бұрын
@@generaldisarray swiss chess welding (full of holes) 😎😎😎😎😎
@GaisaSanktejo
@GaisaSanktejo 4 жыл бұрын
Ya, a double tech-comedy act day :D Both appear to be competent in their own ways and have unique senses of humor :D
@davesanford4798
@davesanford4798 4 жыл бұрын
My exact thought. Ave an this old Tony. How great in these apocalyptic Corona days lol
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
This is a truly memorable moment, I don't think you've ever told us you love us before 👊
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
@Shambles1980TRealOne changed
@SWhite-hp5xq
@SWhite-hp5xq 4 жыл бұрын
Shambles1980TRealOne ‘rememorable’ because its not the first time 😆
@ifell3
@ifell3 4 жыл бұрын
@@SWhite-hp5xq wait I'm jealous, you mean to tell me he's told you he loves you before!!!
@xaviergodinez1713
@xaviergodinez1713 4 жыл бұрын
AWWWW This Old Tony, I love you too 🥰
@mJlReplicanT001
@mJlReplicanT001 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for a decent LONG upload for so long now. Aghh , nothing on Netflix compares to your educational antics 🤣
@MikeMr305
@MikeMr305 4 жыл бұрын
This was just a random KZbin recommendation but i have never been so entertained by a KZbin mechanic lol amazing content
@anthonycima7
@anthonycima7 3 жыл бұрын
One of us! One of us!
@Watthead80
@Watthead80 4 жыл бұрын
When the "Emergency Alert" went off, my cat, who was sleeping next me. Woke up freaking out, looking all around. Was pretty funny. Thanks for reading!!!
@jcnpresser
@jcnpresser 4 жыл бұрын
That’s funny, my dog did the same thing. Knuckle head.
@misfire88
@misfire88 4 жыл бұрын
So did my cat!
@scrambled_greg
@scrambled_greg 4 жыл бұрын
Oh jeez, mine too
@EggBastion
@EggBastion 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too, I only became familiar with that sound a few weeks back. I can't remember the last time I had a big frighten cut so hard and fast to a stupid chuckle.
@MartinE63
@MartinE63 4 жыл бұрын
So did my cat 😂
@archer9338
@archer9338 4 жыл бұрын
Well, atleast 30 minutes of my day was enjoyable. Thanks Tony.
@creamtube
@creamtube 4 жыл бұрын
HE SAID HE LOVES US!!! Ughm, i mean... we love you aswell, Mr Tony
@fgsfdsmonkey
@fgsfdsmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
20:28 dying looking at that B on the piston head
@mr.behaving
@mr.behaving 4 жыл бұрын
I had a side-gig in a motor shop for a Motocross race team for a little under a decade. I'm not going to go into any "advice" as well, as you said a dozen mechanics, a dozen answers. To answer your question on compression to draw fuel. We found that smaller motors usually around 80 on the gauge and it was only starting when hooked to a tow vehicle. Considering you went to spec on everything, your compression is more than adequate. The only other thing to say is when you checked the piston crown height at the top of the bore, you can get different thickness of base gasket to adjust your "squish" to make the most of the explosive forces in the cylinder. "Squish" is exactly as it sounds. Take a couple of pieces of the softest solder available, put it in through the spark plug hole and allow TDC to squish it flat. do both intake and exhaust side. measure the squished solder and boom bobs yer... [jump cut]
@djordjeblaga7815
@djordjeblaga7815 4 жыл бұрын
0:50 thank you for also displaying the cup size for the imperial folks.
@jnuxca
@jnuxca 4 жыл бұрын
*shows the old ring gap Me: DEAR GOD
@wingracer1614
@wingracer1614 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah if you can measure the ring gap with a ruler in mm, there's your problem.
@802Garage
@802Garage 4 жыл бұрын
My guess is the compression reading was similar, but once it's actually running, there was a ton of blow by due to that ring wear.
@jasonvossbrink2296
@jasonvossbrink2296 4 жыл бұрын
HOW DID IT EVEN RUN!!!
@superdupergrover9857
@superdupergrover9857 4 жыл бұрын
9:18 As you can see, the piston is pregnant and wearing a tank top.
@immortalsofar5314
@immortalsofar5314 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking I need to get out more, too. Mind you, these days we all do!
@deangiacopassi8757
@deangiacopassi8757 4 жыл бұрын
Those markings you made on the piston, pure art baby!
@pikepunk1
@pikepunk1 4 жыл бұрын
Mr T, 90 is a bit low for a 150psi cylinder - with new rings. I normally see closer to 135psi on a new rebuild of that size, and it'll quickly tighten up and make its way to 150psi over a little bit of running time. Also, check out a leak down tester for the cylinder vs a standard compression tester. You to put the piston at TDC (or crank in the case of a 1cyl), and put compressed air into the cylinder to your desired pressure. You then wait. The leak down tester has a gauge on it, and you watch it with exuberant anticipation... and it slowly leaks down, crushing your soul, or not. Anyway, they're great for getting a better idea of cylinder and ring wear on a 2 stroke. The leak down will show wear that a compression test will not.
@robertschreier732
@robertschreier732 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking as a mechanic I was taught and have found that most engines won't run under 100 psi (at least not well) and wont run great under 120 psi. That is kinda a good reference to go with I have found
@JC-11111
@JC-11111 4 жыл бұрын
I had a cylinder down at 110 psi and my truck ran its fastest 1/4 mile time like that. Almost a second quicker than stock and all I had was cold air intake and exhaust done. Surprised doesn't describe how I felt when I saw the time slip.
@Zt3v3
@Zt3v3 4 жыл бұрын
True, most modern engines anyways. An old VW or straight six will chug along alright at 90psi, maybe with a cylinder or two at 80psi. No, it's not ideal, but older stuff will be ok.
@joshruskin8147
@joshruskin8147 4 жыл бұрын
Be careful, 2 strokes normally run a lower compression because of the way the Piston compresses the air fuel mixture on the bottom of the stroke. I have seen my old 1969 Yamaha dt1 run at 70 Psi. Was a pain to start but it ran.
@NickyP500
@NickyP500 4 жыл бұрын
And it's also hard to get a true compression reading on a 2 stroke as the ports are exposed on some of the stroke. Unlike a 4 stroke compression stroke when you have a full sweep with the valves shut. Did that make sense? Haha
@dammityoutube
@dammityoutube 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickyP500 There are 2 stroke compression test kits. They come with block off's for the intake and the exhaust ports. The lowest I've seen with the motor still running is 60 psi. It was a bitch to get started and didn't idle very well.
@lntrlp4936
@lntrlp4936 4 жыл бұрын
Your wit is indubitably the best on KZbin that I've found so far.
@joejanson5198
@joejanson5198 4 жыл бұрын
Try AvE
@Dragonmastur24
@Dragonmastur24 4 жыл бұрын
TOT: "for the two curious people out there..." Me: "I'm A Wild PIiiig!"
@herzogsbuick
@herzogsbuick 4 жыл бұрын
Tony's Modern Life!
@francisrampen9099
@francisrampen9099 4 жыл бұрын
I raced RDs and TZs and still have a KX500 so I know the smell of two strokes well. When I was racing some were still using castor oil - to be honest I don't know if this was a belts or braces left over or they knew something but it will produce gum that will need to periodically cleaned. What I found was running a good synthetic as lean as possible produced the most power and actually the longest piston/cylinder life. Back then new pistons/jugs used to be cheap as chips and I had access to factory spares so I could experiment but I never seized an engine - I think I went as lean as 70 to one.. What I think is happening and what the engineers told me is that increasing the oil/fuel ratio actually causes detonation which then leads to overheating which then causes scoring/seizure. Of course the human tendency is to add a little more just for safety. I totally agree with you yes you can hone with a diamond flex hone but don't. Nothing is better for oil retention then raw Nicasil and matching the piston to the jug is best done by the plater when you get to that point. Love your videos and your sense of humour. Awesome stuff
@guyward5137
@guyward5137 4 жыл бұрын
Always my favorite KZbin channel TOT. Haven’t seen a TOT video that hasn’t put a smile on my face or a laugh yet. TOT for president 2020. GW
@UndercoverFerret404
@UndercoverFerret404 4 жыл бұрын
1:07 Haha hiding going the wrong way by changing the battery :D Good one!
@boagart
@boagart 4 жыл бұрын
Well spotted.
@nestormoctezuma4695
@nestormoctezuma4695 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, that made me spill my drink. 😂
@cavs2364
@cavs2364 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not an engineer, and In know little of engines. So i can definitely tell you that an engine like that does indeed require PSI to start. Good luck!
@Kaysler
@Kaysler 4 жыл бұрын
"That was long" -- please more ~30min videos, i enjoy them
@nickmiller9218
@nickmiller9218 4 жыл бұрын
this is the struggle of building engines at home. You make it seem hilarious and fun. I miss the honing machine I used to run along with all the other machine tools that made it look easy. Good job!
@piearm1271
@piearm1271 2 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyed that, like the humour and the technical content. Amazing how watching someone else work can create so many experts!
@walterterrell677
@walterterrell677 4 жыл бұрын
This Old Tony, it's always worth watching to the end. As always, great content! I'm a land surveyor & woodworker and just from watching your videos, i now know i need to stick to those things. HA. Kidding! Thanks for the awesome videos, I always get excited when i see the new ones pop up in me feed...I don't use the bell icon, i like to be... Thanks for reading.
@kevindg112
@kevindg112 4 жыл бұрын
You can make your video's an hour long if you want. Always enjoy them so much!
@bowboysam
@bowboysam 4 жыл бұрын
I’m saving this one until the next one posts...that way I can remember what binge watching TOT was like
@JC-11111
@JC-11111 4 жыл бұрын
Psshhtt. TOT is good enough to watch reruns. I do. All the time 👍 🤣
@HasanProd
@HasanProd 4 жыл бұрын
@@JC-11111 I can attest, watched the surface grinder series 4 times now
@ROBRENZ
@ROBRENZ 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Tony! brought back memories of machining window ports in Hodaka pistons for reed valve setups. ATB, Robin
@mxcollin95
@mxcollin95 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video. (As always!) 🤙 As a lifetime dirtbike rider/racer and a hobby machinist, I really enjoy when you bring the two subjects together. Ps. To really get the most performance increase out of doing a top end you might want to throw in new clutch plates and clutch springs (or in a pinch stack an extra washer on the clutch springs) to ensure that the horse power increase is making it all the way to the ground. You’d be surprised how a slightly worn clutch can keep you from feeling the full performance increase.
@BPollard86
@BPollard86 4 жыл бұрын
Dyslexia got the better of me with "hone the bore" read backwards.
@bikefarmtaiwan1800
@bikefarmtaiwan1800 4 жыл бұрын
BPollard86 nice spoonerism :)
@frotobaggins7169
@frotobaggins7169 4 жыл бұрын
@Alan Jackson i think he may have meant, bone the hore
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought it said 'bone the hore'😂😂
@mack3141
@mack3141 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, I was also getting ready to bone the hore... been too long inside...
@ironbomb6753
@ironbomb6753 4 жыл бұрын
@@frotobaggins7169 that wooda even made AVe laugh ..🤣👍
@its_generik
@its_generik 4 жыл бұрын
Oh this is a blessing. Two stroke Tony!!!
@loydsa
@loydsa 4 жыл бұрын
A male Police Officer of my acquaintance had the nickname of, "two stroke" and it wasn't because he needed oil in his petrol :-)
@alanbaeth5542
@alanbaeth5542 4 жыл бұрын
@@loydsa We call them a 2 pump chump lol
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu 4 жыл бұрын
7:28 Confirmed. This Old Tony and ProjectFarm are neighbours.
@TokyoCraftsman
@TokyoCraftsman 4 жыл бұрын
I've rebuilt many 2-smoke bikes in my time and you did everything right. You are exactly on the money with the Nikisil coating, the only thing I ever do is light clean it with a Scotch-Brite pad. The new rings will take time to bed in. I first rebuilt a 1977 Honda MR175 Elsinore 2-smoke, I borrowed a book on rebuilding 2-smokes from the library and did it in my dad's garage. Great video!
@practicalplinking6133
@practicalplinking6133 Жыл бұрын
As a retired m/c mechanic of 40yrs in the business, I have enjoyed laughing at the escapade while having coffee !! Comments are something else, also !! Ya got it right, even using the tools ya did. Would suggest cleaning the s/a, silencer after every top end job !!
@Sam_596
@Sam_596 4 жыл бұрын
Still waiting on that surface gauge build ;) Love your videos Tony. Easily my favorite channel on youtube.
@jmiddlefinger
@jmiddlefinger 4 жыл бұрын
ComputersandJava I second everything.
@randyscorner9434
@randyscorner9434 4 жыл бұрын
ToT is what led me to watch ANY youtube videos. Then I found Clickspring, Abom, Howarth, etc.
@tomwagemans1872
@tomwagemans1872 4 жыл бұрын
Çà Lem beat him to it. He has kind off the same humor.
@ZenMuff1n
@ZenMuff1n 4 жыл бұрын
Was kinda shell shocked, after an unfamiliar sentence, so I had to rewind a few times. What's next? A hug?
@Huntracony
@Huntracony 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly didn't notice that it was a "long" video.
@makinwaves8147
@makinwaves8147 4 жыл бұрын
Huntracony I seriously thought it was just another 10/15 min video, oh damn!
@Finite-Tuning
@Finite-Tuning 4 жыл бұрын
Just an aside, thank you for properly calling this an ENGINE!!! The entire world can't seem to get this right (motor),,, I've been screaming (it's not a motor) about forever and here you go out of the gate and call an apple and Engine! Seriously, I couldn't be more proud of humanity then I am of you right now!!!
@WPXTacoMan477
@WPXTacoMan477 4 жыл бұрын
The thanking us for watching at the end is 100% unnecessary. Loosely speaking for everyone here when I say, we absolutely love your videos and knowledge and we should be thanking you for the time and effort on your end, and personally speaking id love it if the videos were even longer! Can’t get enough
@Bodragon
@Bodragon 4 жыл бұрын
(3:35) - "Now I'm gonna kick this thing like it owes me money..." I had to crawl back up off the floor to just type that. >
@MGoat76
@MGoat76 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest take away. I may need to watch it again... 😊
@CyberlightFG
@CyberlightFG 4 жыл бұрын
I hope you feel better now. Need medical assistance?
@QuadMochaMatti
@QuadMochaMatti 4 жыл бұрын
Kick it to pieces and sell it for scrap - it's probably worth more that way anyhow.
@Vermoot
@Vermoot 4 жыл бұрын
Learning lots and having fun. I really love your channel, Tony. Cheers.
@JohnADoe-pg1qk
@JohnADoe-pg1qk 4 жыл бұрын
Learning lots of things I'll never use and having fun. I really love your channel, too, Tony.
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 4 жыл бұрын
So use the connecting acc from the junk gauge, and graft them to the sears gauge.
@pinkyfull
@pinkyfull 4 жыл бұрын
Junk attachments are just as likely as useless as the junk gauge
@jeeg7204
@jeeg7204 4 жыл бұрын
Not the issue. The little blow off valve is basically to far away from the cylinder and in a sense altering the compression ratio which is making it read low. On larger engines this isn’t noticed as harshly as smaller engines.
@demandred1957
@demandred1957 4 жыл бұрын
@@pinkyfull I doubt it since it's just tubes and fittings.
@bobturnbull18
@bobturnbull18 4 жыл бұрын
The point isn't a potential leak the issue is the additional volume in the tubes and fittings. Ref. JAG S
@leocurious9919
@leocurious9919 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobturnbull18 No, thats not the issue here. He applied compressed air to it and it was reading 50% low while at a static pressure (it was sealed). There was no dynamic pressure at that moment to let the tube volume etc. change the reading. They can only alter the reading during dynamic situations. This doesnt mean that it would have worked good when you install a new gauge and read 100% at static pressure, but the biggest issue here was the useless gauge showing nonsense. Cant even be leaks. A leak big enough to drop that much pressure during that test would be audible in the video with a ton of air blasting out.
@ScruffyTime
@ScruffyTime 4 жыл бұрын
This Old Tony has kinda become the dad I never had. I love you too, Tony.
@Miata822
@Miata822 4 жыл бұрын
Today I adjusted the belt on my Zero SR/F electric motorcycle. It has a carbon fiber cog belt that you adjust, I kid you not, by strumming it like a guitar string. Gates has an iPhone app that listens to the tune the belt resonates with when strummed. After loosening the 27mm 75 lb-ft axle nut the tension is easily dialed to the ideal 75hz by waiting for the tools to show up then turning a T-45 bolt on each end of the axle. Re-torquing the axle nut of course adds or removes a random amount of tension, just enough to be out of spec. After two days of strumming I finally said close enough, took the bike around the block, and got to the point. Several neighbors were out, in their yards, with kids, or walking their dog. Each of them gave me that "I'm so disappointed in you" look patented by moms worldwide. One lap of one block and I put the bike away 'for the duration' as they used to say. Y'all stay safe.
@wisehart77
@wisehart77 4 жыл бұрын
"Great, now I've got the hiccups". That line caused me to spit beer out my nose. Thank you so much for another wicked smart and funny video.
@nbolin7803
@nbolin7803 4 жыл бұрын
When you pulled out the second piston I was waiting for the “I hope you can hear what I’m seeing”. Love you too Tony. I hope that intro wasn’t a jab at blondihacks... still waiting on the video of you straightening out her parts...
@Elvirth24
@Elvirth24 4 жыл бұрын
You're a brave man, cracking exhaust flange bolts with a ball end allen...
@peterweller8583
@peterweller8583 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a beautiful set of screw extractors courtesy of Bondus rat course files.
@troyna77
@troyna77 4 жыл бұрын
actually those tips you pointed out @9:12 was very important. its details like that(+ snarky sarcasm comedy) that keep me coming back and watching(re-watching) your videos.
@johnsherborne3245
@johnsherborne3245 4 жыл бұрын
Good call on the Nikasil, I used to work for the company who invented it and it was used on BMW K100 bores . It was reckoned that a block was good for 200,000 miles but new rings at 100,000 miles
@CafeenMan
@CafeenMan 4 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to fix the problems with your bike is to buy a new house that comes with a new bike in the garage.
@Nathaaaaaniel
@Nathaaaaaniel 4 жыл бұрын
Tony: Pistons, the tarot cards of the engine world Mazda doritos: 🙄
@Sicktrickintuner
@Sicktrickintuner 4 жыл бұрын
Well it is a dirt bike, it’s supposed to run on dirt, right?
@EllaBananas
@EllaBananas 4 жыл бұрын
Actually its a trials bike. Iirc they run on time itself.
@ahumanbeing7554
@ahumanbeing7554 4 жыл бұрын
Ella Banana how much does a gallon of time cost?
@leadgindairy3709
@leadgindairy3709 4 жыл бұрын
@@ahumanbeing7554 i think its 16 cups of hot air for a gallon of time...last i checked
@llcc77
@llcc77 4 жыл бұрын
Since Old Tony is so good at metal fabrication, finishing, engines and motobikes. How about doing a Orange County Choppers? As in making a custom Orange, and throwing things at Tony Jr.
@nietaki
@nietaki Жыл бұрын
I love you too, Tony! I'm planning to get a 125cc trials bike and learn some engine maintenance on it, so a video like this is basically invaluable. As well as very entertaining :D
@BiggMo
@BiggMo 4 жыл бұрын
Starting to wonder if ChrisFix is the love child of ToT and AvE - would explain why non of them dare show th face around here.
@themrm3585
@themrm3585 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wolf78033 yeah so has this bloke kzbin.info/www/bejne/rHusq55_mMSqf7c
@Darth_Firebolt
@Darth_Firebolt 4 жыл бұрын
we just need to compare how they say "water"
@laszlokatko7216
@laszlokatko7216 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tony, hope you are fine. Just want to say, that we miss you. In case you ran out of topics, you can just upload an "i'm fine" video. Starting to get worried in these times...
@ronaldcolman6211
@ronaldcolman6211 4 жыл бұрын
Gearbox oil will never get into the crankcase of a two stroke, different oil, different chamber.
@ferrumignis
@ferrumignis 4 жыл бұрын
Unless the crank seals are leaking!
@dublardemesrie
@dublardemesrie 4 жыл бұрын
some 2 stokes use the gearbox and the crankcase as a single unit and the same oil lubes the gears and the crank and those engines have the intake straight into the cylinder
@Adam5130A
@Adam5130A 4 жыл бұрын
@@dublardemesrie The main bearings might be lubricated by the gearbox oil if the crank seals are inboard of the bearings. But all 2 stroke crankcases are separate 'chambers' from the gearbox.
@DesainDali
@DesainDali 4 жыл бұрын
If the radial shaft seal on the crankshaft is damaged, it´s possible. Not infrequently Yamaha DT pull gear oil into the crankcase. My Answer is not necessary anymore, had refresh my page to slow.
@johannesmuller1288
@johannesmuller1288 4 жыл бұрын
@@Adam5130A no dude there are 2strokes that have a seperate oil tank and they lubricate the bore
@125spectrum
@125spectrum 4 жыл бұрын
Hope all is well with you and yours, as we haven't heard from you for a while. Great content. All the very best from Scotland.
@mecha207
@mecha207 4 жыл бұрын
Doing the exact same thing with my bike except it is a 4 stroke 250cc inline 4. Learning a lot of lessons (the hard way) and this video taught me even more.
@chubbs5183
@chubbs5183 4 жыл бұрын
Best channel on KZbin, period.
@dorhocyn3
@dorhocyn3 4 жыл бұрын
What was the new ring gap???
@Gdsmith504
@Gdsmith504 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a 39 year old man, and I have to admit, when I saw this is said "a new TOT, and it's 28 minutes! Sqweeee!!!!"
@gumbykevbo
@gumbykevbo 4 жыл бұрын
If the piston were to have been a little too tall, then the fix isn't a thicker head gasket, but a thicker cylinder base gasket. The piston height controls not only the compression/head clearance, but also the exhaust & bypass port timing. Shimming the whole cylinder higher restores both port timing and head clearance.
@zukjeff
@zukjeff 4 жыл бұрын
to confirm the rings are the problem with a compression tester. do the test dry and then put 5ml of engine oil in the hole , turn the motor over once and retest. if the compression goes up then its rings and not ' valving' or a dead head gasket. good vid.
@carpart122
@carpart122 4 жыл бұрын
"All over my bullets and everything!" Hahahahahaha!!!! I think I need some tacos now.
@jonathanhall7903
@jonathanhall7903 4 жыл бұрын
"First, I love you..." I feel all mushy, now.
@dernachtmannkommt
@dernachtmannkommt 4 жыл бұрын
20:39 Thanks Tony, I really needed that 😢
@winrid
@winrid 4 жыл бұрын
Once ran a four cylinder to 400 F for a few miles in the rally car. Eventually freeze plugs blew out from steam pressure. It (grudgingly) started up and drove off the tow truck's trailer. Each cylinder was around 30 lbs psi. Early 80s Chrysler 2.2.
@WR505_Spearo
@WR505_Spearo 3 жыл бұрын
Probably been mentioned but a two stroke relies on both compression above and below the piston to work correctly so a marginal loss due to blow by tends put a dent in the efficiency of the whole system. Great channel by the way, I tend to binge watch occasionally and rewatch some of your videos over and over, great teaching style
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