Top Finds: Tang Dynasty Marble Lion

In this clip from Albuquerque, Asian Arts expert Lark Mason appraises a Tang Dynasty marble lion.
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[@jasoneverett]

when the appraiser starts crying you know you're in for a payday....

[@campari4467]

He was obviously a camp man as he was reaching for his pearl necklace his bf gave him that morning before he get out of bed 🤣

[@brbob4934]

@@JaimeGandarillaG I have to imagine the Chinese would pony up BIG for that, and probably in excess of $200k.

[@evanpenn1]

If he had knocked it off that table I would have started crying....

[@danielc3157]

Agreed.

[@ditherdather]

😂

[@abdiver12]

Never fails to amaze me how a priceless piece of Tang Dynasty art can end up in a home in Albuquerque New Mexico over 1200 years later.

[@Lonesome__Dove]

And in such great condition by such an amazing artist

[@EspenX]

And then it broke 50 years later because the appraiser kept touching the fragile marble with his greasy fingers like he was on a first date with a supermodel... Outside the US, this would be a white glove appraisal. Hence why most of these artifacts are found outside the US.

[@parthsavyasachi9348]

@@EspenX yes and everyone who touched before it did not do anything to it. Only the guy who knows shall wear the gloves. His touch is a problem.

[@EspenX]

That reply makes no sense, @@parthsavyasachi9348

[@parthsavyasachi9348]

@@EspenX think about it. The person who brought the item for appraisal. Was he or she wearing the gloves?? No. Would them not wearing gloves destroy the item? It would. But that's fine. Oh and all the people who will touch after this. Makes perfect sense if you give it 2 minutes of thought.

[@darvoid66]

The Mullet at 2:41 was priceless. One of the most amazing mullets I've seen in my entire life.

[@AndrewBarsky]

“I know it’s an important piece, let me call my buddy who’s an expert in mullets for a second opinion.”

[@CosmicDrift420]

Lmao

[@lordchancellorhatton1910]

I’m actually getting a little choked up looking at it, I’m sorry.

[@Burger_pants]

thank you

[@Buttaknowsbest]

Poodle lol

[@HunterShows]

"This is extraordinary. It's worth 12 billion dollars." "Oh, well, I wouldn't sell it. I was just bored and wondered what it was."

[@guesswho6616]

LMAO

[@bjoernaltmann]

Yeah it‘s a bit like that thing outside the local Chinese restaurant, actually they had two of it and even bigger. I might get the second to match this one at a hardware store

[@jeffpetrie7744]

Sells it two months later! 🙄👍🏼🤣

[@BaddaBigBoom]

...followed by a Benny Hill style speeded up trip to the nearest auctioneers :-)

[@psoteriou3884]

She was underwhelmed by the price.

[@SuperSkinandHairCare]

I’ve never seen an appraiser choke up like that in all the years of AR that I’ve watched! I’m touched by his pure emotion. 💗

[@Lonewolfmike]

You know it is special when they have to take a moment to compose themselves. They love seeing things that they have never seen before or had only seen in books. I mean when you hear them say things like, "When I saw you in line I almost fell off my chair" or something like that.

[@chriswhamilton]

I saw one hold back tears appraising a baseball card collection

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

And this is a very old episode too. With China being so economically strong now, that thing would probably get quadruple his estimate at the right auction from some Chinese billionaire collectors.

[@Lonewolfmike]

@@chriswhamilton Yeah she saw a baseball card collection that is quite literally one of a kind. I mean it was a once in a lifetime find that walked through the doors and landed in her lap.

[@SuperSkinandHairCare]

Chris Piper it really is!

[@AllSven]

This man knew art. It was his life. This is the moment I’m sure all appraisers wait for - the best moment of their career when they see something in real life they’ve only read about in books. Probably the highlight of his career.

[@danni1993]

Yeah...and it turns out 'priceless' has a price after all, and it isn't much.

[@Rand25449]

@@danni1993 Footage is from 2002... There were a pair of much smaller, but stylized lions that have similar workmanship that sold at auction for $475k in 2017. I have no doubt this would go for $500k to a mil today given the sheer size of the sculpture.

[@generichuman2044]

@@Rand25449 honestly, put that it the right auction and attract Chinese collectors and we're talking a HUGE sum of money

[@RSpracticalshooting]

@@generichuman2044 especially if they get in a bidding war.

[@GoldieG91]

@@Rand25449 Yeah, those Chinese billionares go crazy and overpay for these relics. this can easily go for over 1 mil

[@seanfeeney8170]

bill nigh the antiques guy

[@nujabeskaizer352]

sean feeney bill! Bill! Bill!

[@zoeykillah]

I knew he looked familiar!! Lolol

[@captpicard6894]

0.38 nearly loses it on live TV, great to see such passion and enthusiasm for art.

[@MrIra9]

0:38

[@DTR89]

Pre-recorded TV, but yes

[@aaronfelman1000]

it's a beautiful moment....truly.

[@SEVENROCK100]

I call it unprofessional!

[@ariochiv]

Philipp: I hope you're trolling and not actually emotionally dead inside.

[@JimmyRingz]

*The mullet behind them at* 2:41 is worth a lot more and the owner has kept it in impeccable condition. You can clearly see the beautiful patina it has collected throughout the years.

[@grimsket]

I’m done

[@Mr.Pop0]

glorious indeed

[@RichSmithson]

Based

[@johnmc3862]

Not worth too much though.

[@JimmyRingz]

@@johnmc3862 You can't put a price tag on something like that. It is majestic.

[@bshilkitus]

Super mullet alert at 2:40

[@johnw218]

It would date from around the mid 1980s and the greying suggests it is an original piece. Hard to value but estimate would be $20 in a hair salon to get one like it and about the same to have it removed or repaired

[@rummy98]

John Haha

[@fasteddie4145]

a Silverback too.....very rare indeed......

[@jirace]

ROFL like i'm hurting. thank you sir

[@christiaan81music]

What's a 'Mullet' ? I'm not a English native speaker

[@breselexiapsychicmedium346]

When I see him get choked up makes me get choked up. He knows and feels how important this piece is. Gifted man!

[@dabadguy7882]

She likes chocking, not choking.

[@aviva007007]

Slatko Vafangula what is chocking?

[@dabadguy7882]

Alison Harrison Do you see where I'm going with my comment?

[@LyricsAreTheLynchpin]

You're Sweet i

[@Iazzaboyce]

Alison Harrison Making sure your airplane doesn't take off before you want it to.

[@meffistodily]

Imagine inheriting nanas’ door stop only to find out later it’s a priceless 1200 year old piece of history!

[@ronp.6782]

😂

[@joshuasterling2144]

Thank god it got out of China and did not get destroyed during the cultural revolution where most of China's relics were purged from public consciousness. For the last 100 years the safest place for Chinese works of art and cultural pieces certainly was not in country. Also when you see the appraiser about to weep like he just lost his grandmother your in for a surprise...lol

[@miket4234]

Joshua Sterling and lets not forget the eight-nation alliance of foreign countries that stole, looted, and burned most of the chinese treasures too.

[@Erin-Thor]

I gave my brother an original first edition print of Lewis and Clark’s western expedition notes as it was a subject he was interested in. Years later when I asked him about it, he said “That old book? [scoffed] We got a buck or two at a garage sale. I was speechless, and I’ve never told him how much it was worth.

[@fifthbusiness1678]

@@joshuasterling2144 Relics such as these were not destroyed during the Cultural Revolution - I’ve no idea where you heard that. The Chinese have treasured their antiquities. Many were stolen by either local thieves/profiteers who in turn sold them to dealers, where they were snapped up foreigners.

[@patriotdrone9566]

The expression on the statues face and clean lines screams priceless. 200k seems like steal today for that. I'd put it in the millions.

[@CM-cw8fe]

In 2024 that would be 1 million minimum, Chinese art has skyrocketed.

[@MrReed314]

There are many very wealthy Chinese art collectors, Chinese in particular, who wouldn't think twice about dropping several millions on her to buy it..

[@MrZachgonz]

I don’t think you have done business with a Chinese businessman before. They don’t overpay. EVER.

[@ondrejnovotny7628]

@@MrZachgonz When at auction, I believe someone would want to outshine his compatriots bringing home a piece of national treasure. Buying and even overpaying this piece would be a honor-status thing so I am quite sure MrReed is right about this.

[@cchavezjr7]

@@MrZachgonz On normal business sales transactions you are right but when it comes to gambling and auctions where they can show off wealth, they will spend outrageous amounts.

[@DonLee1980]

@@MrZachgonz stereotype ignorance. You must not have met the rich 2nd generation with billions of their family's money. They overpay all the time just to get the most flex. All races and cultures have people who have to feed their egos.

[@gurgy3]

They spend money on Luis Vuitton and Lambos. Since when do Chinese communists give a crap about cultural art? They destroyed priceless artifacts during their great leap forward.

[@tothelighthouse9843]

The reason Lark Mason is on Antiques Roadshow is that he's the kind of person who would be so moved by this work that he almost can't speak. His passion, devotion, commitment to learning & just pure LOVE of beauty & craftsmanship accounts for both his high profile in the antiques world & his becoming almost overwhelmed by the work in front of him. Lovely to see.

[@janeferraz413]

Something that old and belongs in a museum should be at least a few million instead of a couple hundred thousand.

[@finnmccool684]

The Tang dynasty were great at two things: (1) making lion sculptures, and (2) making orange and grape drink mix.

[@swamistevie4711]

😊

[@kaiohshin2322]

Its refreshing to see someone not being taken aback by monetary value - but rather by its personal value to her. "Not that i would sell it" Good on you madam. That is something the world needs more of.

[@graciozo2]

This is my favorite Antiques appraisal of all time. His reaction is so touching.

[@villarreal6]

I started to cry myself at the mullet at 2:41, it's truly stunning, truly fantastic. I hope he has it insured

[@psoteriou3884]

It's breath taking. He should insure it for at least $300,000.00. A rare example indeed.

[@coreyw2124]

My god. That thing is majestic.

[@kevinchambers1101]

Clearly, the three of you don't know what you're talking about. It should clearly be put on view at the Met for all the world to see. It's truly priceless.

[@villarreal6]

@@kevinchambers1101 I just heard he donated to the Vatican. Where it should be reviewed and studied by the highest schoalors.

[@rminitials]

I have no clue about sculptures or even art for that matter. However, the passion this guy has is felt throughout. Good on him. Clearly he does something for a living he truly loves. In a way, he's wealthier than most of us will ever be.

[@AndrewBarsky]

@David Wang Way to throw some shade on someone just enjoying the genuine reaction of another human being. Must be pretty lonely living amongst all those Mountain Dew cans and discarded Doritos bags. 😂

[@generichuman2044]

@@AndrewBarsky dang. Gottem

[@GnosticAtheist]

Well, when the thing is over a thousand years old and it still has its original shape its kinda logical its gonna be worth a few pennies.

[@matthewpatstone5933]

His expression is priceless… So thankful he was able to appraise this in his lifetime

[@VL1975]

What? Did he die?

[@matthewpatstone5933]

@@VL1975 My apologies if I made it sound like he had passed away. He is still alive. In my comment, I was trying to say that I was very happy that he was the one to appraise it because he’s so passionate and it’s a once in a lifetime appraisal for him. 👍

[@dannorman1113]

He literally can't touch this enough.

[@guillermolopez9848]

He rubbing all the luck out of it.lol

[@tiotito31]

For something so old and exquisite, I'm surprised the value wasn't much higher.

[@aejae15030]

Exactly. I really Expected 2-3 million

[@wes3793]

@@aejae15030 it would be at chinese auction, guaranteed.

[@Gabebox]

Important to remember the time during which this was filmed.

[@bighands69]

@@wes3793 Would you allow it to go to a Chinese auction that is the thing. Would you ever get it back.

[@theimportanceofnewfoundlan3066]

@@bighands69 In America with a room full of Chinese bidders

[@BackyardSpaceProgram]

02:40 That mullet is priceless.

[@phreak761]

Well spotted, can't beat a good mullet.

[@__seeker__]

THANK YOU

[@warpnin3]

Truly a masterpiece from the late eighties to early nineties. I appraise it at $120, and that's a conservative estimate!

[@tom.1]

Extremely rare to find these days, prices go sky high...

[@mastershredder2002]

@@warpnin3 I'll insure it for $25.48 at the high end. Final offer.

[@WillKalili]

It made me nervous when he picked it up.

[@bighands69]

It is a big block of stone that may have been dropped on many occasions.

[@billybobhaystraw4067]

LOL

[@siler7]

Yeah, he could have been more gentle with it.

[@cesiumbob7278]

I was surprised they did an update on this item and it is still worth $150,000-200,000. I would think with wealthy Chinese it would be worth near a million dollars today.

[@heyitsablackguy9553]

200k? That's nothing.

[@sunnyduscle]

The real value of any item only comes up when its on auction. When you have rivals Chinese bidders who want it at any cost they will pay millions. Just like Da Vincis painting that sold recently they value it at $70m but it sold for $450m making it the most expensive painting ever. Interesting to note the Mona Lisa is valued at $100m you really think it will only sell for that at auction?

[@twins1729]

I know you're trying to make a point, but just throwing it out there that I think if the Mona Lisa did go on sale for auction there is no way it would it make any less than a billion dollars.

[@carstenf279]

@@twins1729 Wow - I would have to mortgage my house!!!!

[@dtiydr]

200k would have been the start price when selling this in China.

[@leftyfourguns]

To quote a great friend of mine...it belongs in a museum.

[@rebeccaloughran839]

I often wonder what's lacking in my life when at 40 I can't remember ever being passionate like that about anything..I envy him.

[@gybx4094]

Make it your goal to find something that does. Even something that seems trivial to others. It only matters that it's important to you. I don't have the emotions that the Appraiser has, but I have found a few simple things that matter.

[@3deanes958]

Experiencing a relationship with God will get you exactly what you're looking for, I can promise you that!

[@DominoandMiranda]

I never thought I'd cry out of joy until I was sitting in a lecture and was told that I could meet Jane Goodall. She was my hero as a child...I walked out of that place with tears down my face.

[@psisky]

God, I tear up with joy when I see a butterfly sniffing around my garden. Get out and look around.

[@warpnin3]

@Jennifer Rissetti People have built fairy tales around God, but He can still be found.

[@devinbrita8557]

Man now that’s a person that truly loves history, and we need to keep him around! This appraisers emotion makes the whole show

[@billgriffiths8752]

I’m happy for the owner, but I’m really happy that someone who obviously treasures being in its presence was able to interact with it.

[@natemoe3134]

He is a man with a tender soul and stunned by beauty, rare these days

I very much appreciate his respect for amazing art. That he got emotional is a great indication of his love of history and historic precedent. This got me emotional as well.

[@SheilaR.08]

I absolutely love it when these dedicated, scholarly experts see something that excites or moves them visibly. Makes me a bit emotional, too.

[@lancelotkillz]

Loved it too... It was a pure moment

[@steffanyk6772]

The appraiser truly loves his job. Him tearing up got me.

[@lh7254]

I love how fierce the statue is.

[@1962stormy1]

I LOVE HOW EMOTIONAL THE APPRAISER GOT

[@wyattrubin]

bruh how am i getting emotional watching antiques roadshow..... appreciation for art is beautiful

[@MrVegas-vm2kp]

Kentucky waterfall mullet at 2:41 PRICELESS !

[@Everett-xe3eg]

Great mullet sighting!

[@drew8437]

The mullet at the 2:42 mark has got to be worth more than anything this show has ever done. EVER!

[@andyevans9369]

I know many people with more impressive mullets, even Don Jump!

[@ariochiv]

While the statue itself doesn't do anything for me, I love watching this clip to see Lark Mason's emotional reaction. People engaging with their passions is always fascinating.

[@lucylincoln3285]

Bless him for such a lovely emotional reaction.

[@happymack6605]

When art touches your soul, you lose yourself for a moment , and are bettered for it.

[@IIIIIIII]

this is worth millions of dollars. many, many people would pay millions for this amazing work of art.

[@THOMMGB]

It's so amazing that this somehow managed to survive all those centuries in one piece. Even though this is from 2002, I really thought it would be worth millions. I mean, how many of these big carvings are there?

[@elizabethmayberry3414]

Who knows, it might be now. I believe Chinese art has just gone up in cost.

[@dotexe4981]

Love when someone can become emotional from art like that

[@bretthousman8317]

I love how Lark can't contain himself. To see an expert get like this, you know you have something spectacular.

[@DoctorD250]

When the appraiser actually weeps... that's when you know you really have something.

[@erasertraceur3741]

Dude was legit crying...... Thats how you know the art is incredible and old af.

[@Beck-Stein]

Pawn stars would offer 500 bucks. Rick would say it’ll sit there for awhile and he takes all the risk.

[@babbotfinklestein9513]

I hate that show. Idk how someone hasnt burned down their junk store

[@arnoldjack7956]

Lmao I was waiting for someone to make a pawn stars comment 😂

[@alansenzaki4148]

One of the top three appraisals on the road show : the other two - kit carsons navajo indian rug - and the 1892 h.f. farny native american painting.

[@bighands69]

The native American stuff is really at this point over valued and inflated as there is no real marketplace for it.

[@derekjlight]

Can we please take a moment to realize the brilliance of this art. One master craftsman took a chunk of marble and HAND carved this lion with the absolute most primitive tools people of our generations can imagine. Whether or not that took days, months, years, I don't know, but this is incredible.

[@paula4910]

Its a hunk of marble, nothing important, get a grip

[@derekjlight]

@@paula4910 you try it.

[@paula4910]

@@derekjlight I agree it took great talent, my point was it's a meaningless waste of time. I would be more impressed if the time was building a house or growing food. Art in general is a waste of energy

[@derekjlight]

@@paula4910 I can pretty much agree with that. It is kind of like fashion, totally pointless and no contribution to society.

[@1ACL]

You people are base.

[@WildWildWest30000]

that is one magnificent piece. she should really preserve it in a museum. things like that should not be in the household.

[@etnadsitnased3982]

you are welcome in my household anytime beautiful :)

[@michaelm1238]

You just mad it was stolen from your culture.

[@daniellepreyar]

Wow, what a masterpiece! People should reconsider saying they dont care about the value of things. Knowing the value is imperative, especially if you want to keep it and get it insured or sell it eventually. But it's good she cared enough to bring it in!

[@crankyknuckles1849]

I made a 3D printed version of my face. It is from the 21st century. Beautifully rounded, with a slight porcelain finish. One of a kind; I rate it as priceless.

[@zindi1138]

to have people bring things in your passionate about instills everything needed in life

[@gf4353]

She sold it the next day.!!!!!!

[@stevewilson7857]

Fascinating back story about this item. The man said in another program that the statue was probably stolen from a very important family by Chinese who would then find American tourists who would want to buy relics. The dragon has been displayed on loan at his appraisal business also.

[@arsalansajed5292]

who else is on a Antiques roadshow binge? so glad i stumbled on these!

[@blktauna]

This belongs in a museum.

[@ohiogirl5503]

I love how he gets choked up. You can tell he is doing what he loves for a living, and this was a joy for him to appraise.

[@222billp]

the first words out of my mouth would be SOLD!

[@thestateofn1]

“ this is a priceless piece of art, these belong in museums and made of the finest marble and is extremely old”.... *touches it multiple times without gloves*

[@PDC1987]

Nathaniel Boos and? What are fingers going to do to solid marble???

[@shannonpincombe8485]

The most SUPREME MULLET @ 2:43......"a thing of beauty. I'd insure that mullet for at least $450 000. We all, my professional colleagues and I, who've been in the business for a combined 77 yrs, we believe it's one of, if not THE finest example, of "Business at the front, Party at the back" we have ever seen. A truly, truly, wonderful piece of history. Thank you so so much for bringing it in for us to gaze at."

[@thehappycamper6789]

I absolutely love the appraisers passion. If everyone loved our work like he does ..what a happy world we would live in!

[@yugandali]

I enjoy Chinese art. If you have looked at much Chinese art, you can see at a glance that this could not possibly be Ming, they couldn't project that kind of power. Truly a beautiful piece!

[@bridgecross]

She obviously truly cares about this piece. I hope she arranged in her will for it to go to an appropriate museum.

[@JohnFoxx108]

Thank you Indiana

[@adamb9931]

there is nothing more moving than someone truly in love with their passion, and it's infectious.

[@TheSataraid]

Right now it’s 18 years since the air date. I’m very confident this piece would command a price of $400,000 to $500,000 easily getting $400,000.

[@mediocrates1937]

2-3 million, minimum...

[@fanoboss]

My favorite appraisal of all time. Lark Rocks !!!

[@mikenealon4042]

lark mason's emotional response.. priceless

[@AndySaenz]

WOW, the appraiser was nearly moved to tears by this magnificent Asian artifact!

[@lydiaanderson2870]

@Hello Andy, How are you doing?

[@VegasJPH]

"and when were you in China?" *cough* - "recently, why?"

[@retsubanires]

😂

[@brainwashington1332]

grats! America First (in coronavirus) now

[@3PercentNeanderhal]

@@brainwashington1332 choke on bat soup Mr Bugman

[@brainwashington1332]

@@3PercentNeanderhal 97% Trumptard

[@jamesgville]

I love how much the expert loves and respects the art.

[@sharoncasey92]

Love how Lark is so choked up as he's doing the appraisal, he's so overcome.

[@sillllysami]

i LOVE seeing when the conservator gets emotional through the sight or feel of a beautiful piece of art history!

[@tjbyers727]

history and it's artifacts are amazing to see and hear about. I respect the expertise of the Road Shows expert. I love their reactions to priceless artifacts

[@skynotaname2229]

Considering it's age and beauty, it seems more fitting to call it a treasure than art. An ancient and special relic from a time long ago.

[@sBabysKid-nk8eh]

I love this guy!

[@PolochAngriff]

I wish I was as passionate about anything as this appraiser

[@mariapilarme]

That passion comes with time and study for years. It’s developed by time and love of art. Find what you like in life and develop that study and love for what interests you. You can also be like that one day. I am a painter and I painted for 35 years every day. Even only 10 minutes, but I did that. It’s like discipline and work. It makes me very happy when I am painting.

[@tiffanygalvan5187]

I love his passion for the art and history-beautiful

[@Calendarmunkey876]

2:40 Did y'all see it? That man's mullet is the single most exquisite piece I've ever seen on this show. My God...

[@cassiegalbraith9089]

I hope it makes its way to a museum one day!

[@seikoshalordelgin4479]

Beautiful simply beautiful!

[@mvandeven]

Tang is pretty good. Thanks, NASA!

[@donelmore2540]

I live in New Braunfels, TX and that is where Mr. Mason has his shop. I’ve met him and been in his shop many times. He has also looked at some Asian pieces that I brought to TX from CA. He has an interesting shop!

[@ak2298]

So sweet that the appraiser really loves those things!

[@davidp1847]

Now that Chinese Art is so sought after, I bet the value has increased 10x or more since this aired.

[@joshuasterling2144]

That's because the Chinese destroyed their whole culture, now that you can't find any pieces tying your history to the land it becomes popular and a status symbol to acquire said pieces of art.

[@latuman]

Like me evaluating the unusually picturesque Big Mac I'm about to breathe into my body

[@FrightNFight]

this is the definition of an underrated comment

[@nolickspittle4753]

It is worth millions!!

[@mulemule]

Love this dude's unabashed thrill for the art work. Imagine honing your global expertise for decades and finding this in NM!

[@keithsnider1958]

Absolutely stunning piece!!!!!!

[@amit4Bihar]

The practice of signing by artists is surprisingly very recent in origin

[@princeloren86]

You gotta love what you do folks.

[@piustwelfth]

It's worth many millions now (2022).

[@jordansmith5079]

It's not all because of money, it's passion of love for vintage antique stuff and i love it.

[@finnmccool684]

"Late fourteenth century, Ming Dynasty. Oh, it breaks the heart."

[@patrickd2737]

Ahhhh, a fake!

[@Ronbo710]

I am happy he was able to experience such feeling. It is what the search is all about.

[@alhodge4051]

your emotion is priceless.

[@roseforyoubabe]

this appraisal was before the chinese market exploded...

[@dylanchan7913]

roseforyoubabe I

[@eecforeststewardship640]

I wonder who has it now

[@WaterChleo]

Holy crap you're right... I wonder..

[@XercesandAlexander]

Hope she didn’t sell it back in 2002

[@1vengefulheart743]

I don’t know anything about the “Chinese market “, and things like that , but I was really expecting the appraisal to be in in the millions ..

[@kevinwahl9838]

I couldn't justify owning something like this. One, it should be in a museum for people to enjoy and learn about. Two, too much risk in dropping or breaking it.

[@Mahdi_Molla]

@Wishful Thinking "legitimately bought" by her privileged colonial grandparents. This is simply another example of the widescale theft and plunder of the heritage of other cultures under western occupation.

[@spartand001]

@@Mahdi_Molla ok sjw

[@Michael-zh5vi]

@@spartand001 “sjw” knows their history but okay.