Top Five Expendable Infantry Forces in Science Fiction

[@piercepayumo4212]

"We're just clones sir. We're meant to be expendable." "Not to me."

[@decanusseverus8773]

It’s enough to make a grown man cry...

[@republiccommando6104]

Decanus Severus Go ahead little tear. You can fall now.

[@arandomguy8771]

@@decanusseverus8773 And thats okay

[@imperialfist2304]

I would shed a tear for this but unfortunately I have spent too long in the pain glove and cannot shed tears

[@cianbarry9207]

@@imperialfist2304 but its guidance is no longer required

[@mattwells5347]

*Reads title* Death Korps of Krieg: “Did someone say die for the Emperor?”

[@Galster1908Dev]

Shovel charge!

[@imperialfist2304]

Those guys are nuts. We fought with them 3 weeks ago and holy crap the smell, I thought the Death Guard were bad.

[@UnitedDemonZ]

@@imperialfist2304 I live on a war planet my bed is in the trenches I stand in an this is only recruitment for the death corps of krieg I've been born on this planet enrolled when I was 15 I'm 21 now I've been fighting for 6 year's

[@gpheonix1]

Imperial Fist yes, the smell of hell after getting your ass kicked by the Krieg would be bad.

[@BaronVonMott]

*FUR KRIEG UND IMPERIUM!*

[@mrmacguff1n]

Ahem.... *THE PLANET BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD*

[@jacobbrennan442]

CADIA STANDS!!!

[@BigBismark]

By the Emperor the gathering storm series was shit.

[@GANSO_KERAUNOS]

CADIA STANDS!

[@raikbarczynski6582]

my armor is contempt my shield is disgust my sword is hatred in the emperor's name let none survive

[@monsterboomer8051]

I came here for this. Now I can die peacefuly.

[@ailius1520]

I love how he's got a picture of tasty food behind him to placate marines while he's insulting them.

[@Tarumarugan]

I too love the taste of crayons

[@Wayofswords]

Well I'm still hungry for more blood

[@JustaRobot]

My dude it’s crayons XD

[@Kitkat-986]

Ahahah, I just got that, thank you.

[@KamikazeNinja75]

@@JustaRobot I think you missed the joke 😏

[@mortivore222]

Zapp Brannigan's forces in Futurama. “We know nothing about them, their language, their history or what they look like. But we can assume this. They stand for everything we don’t stand for. Also they told me you guys look like dorks.”

[@anonymousrex5207]

The wave after wave of his own troops that he sacrificed against the kill bots that had a preset kill limit

[@imperialfist2304]

“Now let’s kill them all!”-The Imperium

[@unofonseca2862]

"This is what we've been training for all yesterday afternoon" "Now fly straight into the alien death cannons, clogging them with wreckage"

[@3ggh3ad]

"why is this godforsaken planet worth dying for?"

[@stevendubin3584]

@@3ggh3ad i dont know your the ones that are going to do the dying

[@invinciblemic]

Actually, in the lore NCR had a very advanced industry. They were known as one of the only factions in the wasteland to actually mass produce their weapons and armor.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Back in fallout 2 they had the capacity to make laser fences and built a fusion reactor to power the capital. Next to the enclave, institute, bos and thinktank there the most technologically advance faction. Edit proably should add house to the list asuming he gets the platinum chip and avoids being killed anyway.

[@danielhall6578]

Von Faustien can the think tank in the big MT be considered a faction as there were only 5 of them? Or should they be considered as a group as the survivors of the serria madre?

[@vonfaustien3957]

@@danielhall6578 well they control the lobotomites to an extent as well as the other scientific horrors stalking big mt. But they arent really active outside the crater due to dr moebius so as far as wasteland politics goes they arent a factor aside from the odd person stealing tech from them. The serria madra crew doesn't really control anything aside from the none standered game over ending from siding with Elijah the place is just a hostile death trap. At most the good ending for Christine has it become passive to her which is a far cry from running the place.

[@gpheonix1]

Von Faustien after whatever Bethesda seems to be doing on the east they would second in current lore. Egh, well, that is unless if you think minuteman peaceful ending isn't the canon ending. Now I feel like I'm gas lighting.

[@seamusmustapha8378]

Regardless if they lose hoover dam they would still win the war

[@Connor.SG-1Ring]

Clone Trooper: "We're ment to be expendable." Mobile Infantryman: "M.I. does the dying, Fleet just does the flying." Imperial Guardsman: "Within this weak sack of meat and bone, uncared for by his god and wept for by none, beats a heart. A human heart!"

[@SaviourSword995]

UNSC army:- Eat lead

[@robertagu5533]

Star Fleet: "Engage... wait.. what???"

[@MRB2580]

NCR Trooper: Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@26th_Primarch]

Imperial Guard: "HE HOLDS THE LINE!:

[@sergeantmarcusstackerM1903]

UNSC has the advantage of immortal marines like myself

[@whitemoon8987]

I was expecting the Guard and Mobile infantry but the NCR was a pleasant surprise. We won't go quietly, Legion can count on that.

[@jorgefierro8241]

Yeah i noticed when your little town got gassed lul.

[@christiandauz3742]

The NCR outnumbers and outguns the Legion and its 'allies'

[@nobody3761]

@@jorgefierro8241 Yeah and then the NCR still proceeded to win lul.

[@AmericanUnionState1824]

Imperial Guardsman survives after 15 hours, Senor Veteran. Imperial Guardsman survives after 15 years, Governor Militant.

[@Inactive_Account29283]

Howabout after 30 years

[@thecheesecrusader465]

"Standard issue balls of steel" I will now use this forever

[@juanfernandez1696]

You do know that you only get those after you loose your actual balls right?.

[@brodriguez11000]

@@juanfernandez1696 : Sniper Elite 3 and 4 took care of that problem.

[@kennandunn7533]

High lords of Terra: "Oh, we only lost 6 billion guardsmen today? That's 4 billion below par!"

[@3ggh3ad]

"ahh theyve destroyed our small scout force, time to send in the main force"

[@Haldrahir]

You too can be a human-shaped sandbag! The Emperor Protects!

[@icyskelly204]

Yes he does soldier so go charge that giant bug

[@Thunderbeer604]

FOR THE EMPEROR!!!

[@sethgilcrist8088]

Death Korps of Krieg where the artillery is for diging fox holes and the shovels are for massed killing

[@Dimetropteryx]

@midgetydeath What's their name?

[@clumsycommissar5260]

Forward for the honor our regiment and the glory of the emperor!

[@casbot71]

They are expendable in order to make the heroes look even better _with their plot amour._ The more they die, the more *heroic* the main characters are in comparison…

[@marimcgee8379]

And an honorable mention: Starcraft Marines, they too bore the brunt of the Terrian Confederacy and the Terrian Dominion.

[@Helpertin]

while fending off and keeping zerg and protoss in check in the sector no less.

[@marimcgee8379]

I forgot another disposable army: Necromongers, going to one planet and another converting or killing anyone they see fit.

[@ANTSEMUT1]

Given that the 99% of Marines in Starcraft universe are convicts, it must mean they have a crazy criminal system/crime rate.

[@danielhall6578]

Anthony Ngu that is one very troubling thing about that universe

[@lastword8783]

Anthony Ngu 'convict' in that universe can be something as speaking out against the government. A lot of the confederate marines were considered 'culturally challenged'. Normal people also got conscripted.

[@Snooshy]

“We’re just clones, Sir. We’re meant to be expendable” “Not to me”

[@dson978]

these guys should do a "Top 10 Best Science Fiction Humans" video, be cool to see whos the best humans of all

[@GenerationFilms]

That sounds incredibly hard

[@emperorrazor7733]

Probably Star Trek : They work free for the greater good an lived in peace

[@Nothing-1w3]

40k.

[@rebel_drop_troop7715]

40k humans

[@gvardiecky9507]

Imperial guard? You mean death corps of krieg? Krieg doesnt raise regiments, krieg raises armeis. - some guy under some 40k fanmade video

[@MrGrimsmith]

Tanith 1st and 597th Valhallans would like a word, as would numerous Cadian and Catachan regiments :D

[@rangulfgimfang8322]

@@MrGrimsmith Cadia broke before the guard did

[@sethgilcrist8088]

Arch!!!!!!

[@gvardiecky9507]

@@rangulfgimfang8322 yes, in universe where even fucking light is trying to kill you, you have no option. There is no respite, there is no mercy, there is only war.

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@MrGrimsmith *laughs in gasmask then points to kriegs 50 million man yearly troop required offering to the Imperium of man*

[@Zooblegar]

Big 40k fan here! Fun fact, if you are in the Imperial guard you first came from your planets PDF (planetary defense forces) and a percentage (the exact number escapes me) of the best the planet can offer become Imperial guard. So lore wise. The guard is composed of every planets special forces! Crazy right!?

[@redaug4212]

US Army irl: Storms beaches, jumps behind enemy lines, pursues enemies with heavy tanks UNSC Army: A bunch of militia on garrison duty

[@ace448]

The UNSC Ground forces actually fared well against the Covenant. It was the Navy that couldn’t control the high ground they lost the war. Not much a battle rifle can do to a battleship glassing the surface

[@bjornancraite2266]

@@cac_deadlyrang Nah more like the real army. They just aren't shock troops the way the marines are, which is similar to the role of the U.S Army vs Marine Corps

[@redaug4212]

@@bjornancraite2266 Nah the real Army has plenty of shock troops. History shows it. It's just that Marines run better PR.

[@cac_deadlyrang]

I was making a joke

[@sethgilcrist8088]

@@redaug4212 not our fault even army generals say the deadliest weapon in the world is a Marine and his rifle

[@cursedmonkey1033]

"We can sleep soundly in our beds because rough men walk the night prepared to do violence in our name."

[@casbot71]

Clone troopers can vote…it's just unfortunately that they get one vote in total for the lot of them.

[@DSlyde]

All the marines watching didn't hear the video, they were too distracted by the delicious lunch on the screen behind him

[@onecountryunderGod1]

Hey!! Thats not fair! We arent a bunch of......... sorry I got distracted by the snacks again. Its not my fault he put my favorite flavor on the screen.

[@scurrystopthat9985]

*commisars with most guardmen* "CHARGE THE ENEMY" *commisars with death korps* "STOP CHARGEING"

[@viet_cong_momiji2324]

The Soviet Union Conscripts: *am i a joke to you*

[@GenerationTech]

too real not sci fi ;)

[@noneedtoknow07]

Red alert 3? A three minute video is their basic training.

[@viet_cong_momiji2324]

@@GenerationTech but isn't Red alert technically Sci Fi

[@Johnlanzer]

@@GenerationTech "Just like the video simulation!! For the Union!!" - Red Alert Soviet Conscript

[@mannofdober873]

Pfft. It's not the Imperial Guard.

[@pplr1]

Penal Infantry from the Renegade Legion: Centurion game are a good but less known example. They have been labeled criminals for a range of reasons by TOG (the Terran Overload Government) and sent off to battle on foot when not only do other infantry have anti-grav equipment but so do tanks. 90+% casualty rate so unlikely to reoffend.

[@terrorcop101]

Something else I thought about regarding the Clone Troopers is the size of their blaster rifles, the longest and bulkiest standard issue weapon on this list. Part of the reason that military rifles have gotten shorter over the past century is due to the decline of cavalry. In Napoleon's day, cavalry charges were a genuine threat to infantry formations, so the length and durability of their muskets and bayonets were necessary for countering horsemen, plus they were perfect to use in a melee with other infantry. Since the Imperial Guardsmen are the only people on this list who regularly use their bayonets and they're the only ones who might face cavalry, it would make sense if their lasguns were longer than they are. The Mobile Infantry could really use bayonets and longer barreled rifles, considering how often the Bugs get up close to them. But the Clones, not so much; maybe they could've moved faster and shot more accurately if they had carbines.

[@mavrick195]

I know you guys bring it up all the time but I get a big smile on my face anytime you mentioned Warhammer 40K and by extension the Imperial Guard

[@BreachSheff]

The commentary for the mobile infantry is absolutely brilliant

[@shanerasmussen5225]

Yet another reason why Starship Troopers was an insulting travesty of Heinlein's novel.

[@warpartyattheoutpost4987]

It would be cool to see a literal adaptation of the novel. I read the book as a kid in the '80s and saw the movie when it came out in the theater... ironically I was on leave in the Army. I was disappointed, but since it was Verhoeven I kinda expected it to be cheesy. Still, after making ROBOCOP you would think he'd want to have the power armor in the movie.

[@G.R.Buchheister]

YES! Thank you. Everything in that movie was an insult, after reading the book I was pumped to see the badass stuff I'd read and imagined, but was tremendously disapointed. I REALLY wanted to see a drop.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Closest to source materials adaptation was made in Japan, a six episode OVA released in 1988 as a tribute to Heinlein. In this adaptation, the MI got the armor right from the start. It was produced by Sunrise, the studio that's famous for its mecha genre. Search it on KZbin: Uchuu no Senshi. It only had subs (probably fansub) due to how rare and obscure it is to the West.

[@jamesbrice3267]

You should be able to find the animated adaptation on Cartooncrazy that's much more faithful to the book. The movie was a deliberate insult to the American military.

[@mikegrossberg8624]

@@G.R.Buchheister Aside from the lamest excuse for battle armor in existence(even by TODAY'S standards!), the MI were issued with weapons even a Storm Trooper would sneer at! There was NO "effective killing range", since even point blank fire from three feet away did nothing unless you hit that ONE LITTLE SPOT, or used MANY rounds per target in order to DISABLE, but NOT KILL, it. Also, the weapons, WITHOUT apparent external magazines(or magazines that could, at best, hold ten rounds), were capable of firing THOUSANDS of rounds, on full auto, without jamming or reloading(I know that Hollywood "miracle" weapons(like the proverbial Colt six-shooter that fires nine or ten times) NEVER run out of ammo unless the script SAYS they do)

[@deussalt8108]

"At the Heart of any good Army is the infantry grunts" as a former Army Infantryman myself that makes me happy to see that you understand that.

[@EdTheCrkHead]

I love how the MI's stationary machine guns are just two DShKs with a shield.

[@TheMerlotLine]

Congrats to Liam, good stuff!

[@Bidmartinlo]

Probably the *most* under-appreciated grunts in gaming are the average *E.D.F soldiers.* They are expected to die just to give you a *slight* advantage over the hordes of enemies, the hyper advanced giga fortress or flying saucer you'll be facing. In EDF 4.1 you'll even be fighting a gigantic alien space mech, which can potentially wipe out your entire squad in just one beam. Their life-expectancy is next to nothing in every mission.

[@Ianbeers2010]

The NCR dose have access to a weapons manufacturing company and they have access to a whole nation's worth of farms and livestock for fresh food, also they produce there own medical supplies.

[@nicholashe1198]

I like the homage to the crayon eaters in the background. The true fuel of the well trained infantry unit.

[@draco84oz]

PBI - the term you are looking for is PBI, or "Poor Bloody Infantry", which is a nickname for the British Infantry that dates back to at least the First World War. Although in sci-fi, especially in the Halo universe, Fried Infantry might be more appropriate given the amount of plasma weapons the Covenant used...

[@TheJedaiHero9000]

Clone Troopers from Star Wars and the Marines from Halo are my MOST favorite Troops in Sci-Fi!!!!

[@bananawaltz8807]

Another Grunt force that is under appreciated: American Combat Engineers. The average lifespan (in battle) of Engineers in the Vietnam War was 5-10 seconds.

[@lordcastellan4735]

Essayons

[@happydayaday8293]

you are the senate

[@BullScrapPracEff]

Nothing was ever built by Army Engineers during the entire Vietnam war or are using extreme hyperbole?

[@josedelossantos1651]

Considering that engineers are not Infantrymen who cares. 11 Bang Bang not pogs

[@jonathanclemente1473]

@@BullScrapPracEff ummm... Different kind of engineers.

[@jaega4247]

"Yet they have survived all sorts of threats, whether it is Orks, Necrons, Tyranids, the forces of Chaos and, perhaps most dangerous of all, enthusiastic superior officers." Yep, that's Imperial Guard for ya.

[@Me-cw7wu]

IM not sure but I think that one of the primary reasons the NCR was able to secure the territory they did was because they did have a manufacturing base and most of their weaponry were mass-produced by the gun runners and they did have factories producing armour and equipment in California.

[@Necrodermis]

I think an honorable mention to the EDF from EDF should be mentioned. they're going up against ants the size of buses and aliens with the ability to cover the entire planet with their ships in the most literal sense and still come out on top despite being reduced to small pockets of resistance across the globe.

[@timothyhines7845]

I know you're going off the movies but in the BOOK Starship Troopers the average CAP trooper( what they were actually designated) was a power armored walking equivalent of a tank.

[@hoplitethirtynine1487]

The Hammer forces sent to attack the Reapers on Earth were certainly expendable, on there to give enough time to activate the Crucible.

[@kj_heichou]

Let's see Imperial Guard Clones Mobile Infantry UNSC forces And the Colonial Marines (These are just guesses)

[@drakoslayd]

You forgot Imperial guard

[@noneedtoknow07]

Colonial marines are actually a competent force it's just...xenomorphs.

[@vonfaustien3957]

Book mobile infantry outmatched 40k space marines.

[@JennyGormanRitter]

@@vonfaustien3957 no they don't but okay 😅😅😅

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

@@vonfaustien3957 The mobile Infantry had potent powered armour, but underneath all the tech they were still baseline humans, and that bottle-necked their capabilities severely. Like a HALO Spartan (though to a far greater degree), an Astartes is a legitimate post human super soldier, their physiology affording them endurance, reaction times, cognitive processing speeds, strength, and resilience far beyond that which any normal human possesses. As is made very clear in the Horus Heresy novels, you can't just stick a base line human into a suit of powered armour, however advanced, and call them the equal of a transhuman soldier. They will always be constrained in their potential by the hard bio-mechancial limitations of their unaugmented human physiology.

[@bat2293]

The girl holding two bananas... can I be on her squad?

[@shawn6860]

Lol! I thought that too.

[@sheldon-cooper]

No.5- Mordian Iron guard No.4- Attilan rough riders No.3- Armageddon steel legion No.2- Cadian shock troops No.1- Death korps of Krieg

[@bruw565]

The Mobile Infantry from the book Starship Troopers are absolute beasts. Highly trained, encased in version power armor that can fire mini nukes... the movie version of MI was totally different

[@charlesfisher4872]

UNSC Soldier: "We're just NPCs sir. We're meant to be expendable." Me playing Reach on Legendary about to give a rocket launcher to a NPC grunt: "Not to me..."

[@deltafa23]

As an honorable mention: the Terran Marines they were the back bone of the defense of the Koprulu sector against the Swarm

[@eleethtahgra7182]

The Krieg. You forgot the Death Korps of Krieg. They are a breed apart from normal imperial guard.

[@jimothyworldbuilding3664]

Stellaris players that use clone armies to distract enemy fleets and make them suicide rush enemy stations so their fleets can get closer: "Ah, I see you are also a man of culture."

[@LuoSon312_G8]

The Goa'uld jaffa. Dies by the hundreds per episode. Staple of the stargate series. A slave army. An army desperate for new leadership.

[@lkvideos7181]

That one episode where some "Trust" or whatever they were called, used nerve agent to kill millions of Jaffa, was messed up.

[@zachary4670]

Clone Army: Literally bred to be expendable CIS Droid Army: Literally mass-produced to be thrown at objectives

[@travisbenard518]

Star Wars Legends the Old Republic army during the Mandalorian war could be mentioned. The Republic Navy got the 'new toys' and the Republic Army got their out dated left overs and hand to hold the territory the Navy took with half the pay sometimes. I know not a movie so it probably does not count but it seems like the same idea. In that situation it is posable to have breakfast with someone and have lunch after they died.

[@cp1cupcake]

The ground pounders in Babylon 5 count as this. I think all of the named ones except for the general die on a attack which mostly wins because of overwhelming numbers in a surprise attack.

[@Mitheledh]

The Mobile Infantry? Are we talking about the book version or the movie version, directed by someone who never actually read the book?

[@jamesbrice3267]

The director did read the book. The movie was a deliberate insult to the American jingoism at the time.

[@cnlbenmc]

+@@jamesbrice3267+ No he didn't; he read a single chapter then quit, his script writer did.

[@mikegrossberg8624]

@@jamesbrice3267 It was ALSO extremely insulting to the AUTHOR, and the intelligence of everyone who DID read the book, and got suckered into paying good money for a piece of screaming DREK rather than the first rate story they were expecting By the way, Verhoeven DIDN'T read the book. Other than a VERY basic outline of the story, he had idea NADA of what it was about! And he didn't GIVE a SHIT

[@TurboTheGloden]

@@mikegrossberg8624 cool story dudebro

[@majormajorasic]

@@jamesbrice3267 He started reading, got bored before even finishing the first chapter, had one of his underlings read the book instead of him and then just tell him the summary, movie is result of arrogance and broken telephone information.

[@michaell8000]

one of my most common arguments about the imperial guard "they are at the low end of the scale of power in WH40K this scale involves gods demi-gods and the children of demi-gods so yes they are badass to even be on there."

[@captindo]

Canadian veteran here, I was infantry, this is fucking awesome.

[@yesyesyesyes1600]

I love the top 3 :D But the mobile infantery in the starship troopers movie is depicted completely wrong. Read the book, guys

[@Cheezymuffin.]

under equiped under trained and unsung ... all imperial guard units are chosen from the best home guards of worlds, meaning they already have had long training and often even fighting experience. so I wouldn't say under trained Also the supply seems to hold up relatively good, of course they can get cut off, but if they aren't the planet they fight on can ofter produce the equipment needed in hive cities.

[@stuffedsomething1699]

2:21 Wait, doesn't Halo Wars 2 have a tower defense gamemmode?

[@beanboi8838]

The Mobile Infantry being expendable in the films is pretty ironic, since in the books the Mobile Infantry is fucking beast of a military.

[@austinmiller7579]

Halo's Unggoy almost singlehandedly destroyed an early High Charity due to their sheer numbers and ferocity, yet a single marine can easily clear a small group of em. They're just dangerous enough to pose a threat to their masters, yet not too dangerous to pose a serious threat to humans.

[@Orkenspalter14]

Worst Case for Imperial Guard Soldier: enthusiastic commissar Worst Case for enthusiastic Commissar: Become Leader of a Death Korps of Krieg Unit

[@sarithamreddy100]

As a guy from Mars these humans don’t know what is real and what is not.

[@Echo0688]

Personally I’d put the Grunts from the titanfall universe on this list. They get deployed in groups of 4 and 5 to fight against bulletproof robots giant mechs and people that can run in walls.

[@superdupergrover9857]

Starfleet engineers (AKA red shirts) should have made the list. Aren't they the only non-commissioned officers on the ship? (while other personnel died more often in the original program, the red shirts were the only expendable ones)

[@agentb2448]

I think that the imperial guard should be number 1 because 100k loses and more is considered good

[@blueshadow7386]

Generation Films: 5 expendable infantry forces in Sience Fiction Plo Koon: Not to me!

[@BBP081]

Being in the The Imperial Guard actually has one advantage over other armed services of the Imperium of Man: if you happen to be a survivor of a unit too diminished to be useful in the next war zone, it is possible you will be put in a garrison unit or found a new world and perhaps die of old age. Space Marines and other elite units of the Imperium have zero chance of this. Even in death you might be stuck in a dreadnought.

[@ancaplanaoriginal5303]

The NCR army did have supply chains, the NCR have industrial capabilities.

[@chyvaelry]

It's a damned shame that Starship Troopers did not follow the source material. The actual Mobile Infantry from the book was more like the 40k Adeptus Astartes than the Imperial Guardsmen.

[@TreGaming04]

I thought redshirts from startrek was going to be on this list

[@PaulGuy]

Not technically infantry. They're more like military police.

[@TreGaming04]

@@PaulGuy they are still expendable

[@michaelthompson5933]

Please look up the muzzle velocity of a lasgun and understand before you mock it it packs the same punch as an M1 Abrams battle cannon but in the Warhammer universe everything is turned up to 11 this is why it is called just the flashlight of Warhammer

[@pplr1]

But they are bringing the light of the emperor by flashing cool lights off enemy armor. Nothing brings pride to the IG like being able to hit chaos marines multiple times from across the map yet not being able to wound a single one of them.

[@BaronVonMott]

*#3: The Imperial Guard* What?! Who could possibly have outdone the Hammer of The Emperor?! Who could have bested the likes of my beloved Death Korps?! *#2: The Grand Army of The Republic* *#1: The Mobile Infantry* ... Ok, fair enough. 😁👍

[@gabiplatis9962]

Ahem....Ladies and gentleman....And I cannot stress this enough......... THE PLANET FELL BEFORE THE GUARD DID

[@CrimsonCamisaso]

"This was, hands down, one of the most disastrous battles in science fiction history." From the comment section of the battle for klendathu video. They thought they were going up against a bunch of mindless bugs. But the brain bug was using planet to space artillery that had an escort if you look closely, and used flanking tactics. Once you learn Starship Troopers isn't just a dumb action movie but a satire making fun of itself its a totally new watch. The fire bug coming out of the ground isn't just something random, it was a planned maneuver. The flying bugs showed they understood hit and run tactics harassing the enemy as they made their way to an ambush and then worked as close air support. I thought these were all just dumb action set pieces but they were all just showing the arachnids were learning to war from the brain bug. Or rather the brain bug was i think they're a hivemind, which also mirrors the Federation. There's so much cool shit like that in the movie if you know you're looking for it.

[@michaelgiertz-rath7994]

Afaik the guy who made the movie didn't even read Heinlein's novelle past the first two chapters or so ... ;) But yes, you're right. The movie has a "hidden message" about propaganda. Seems to be timeless to me.

[@disbeafakename167]

The book actually explains it all very well, and is much less pulp fiction and more philosophy.

[@BrianSmith-ez9kj]

Was going to be angry If the Imperial Guard weren't here (stfUp all you Starcraft Posers!!) The Imperium has Trillions of extra people, so the poor ba st ards are sent in enormous waves to overwhelm the enemy in most cases- they even have the numbers to go up against Orks and Tyranids - one of my fave WH40K quotes- "Sargeant, should we retreat?" "Retreat? We're the Death Korps of Krieg son! We fight and we die! Did you think that was just some pretty name?"

[@alexithyme3511]

The saddest thing about the imperial guard is NOT that they are untrained, it is that they are the best trained and equipped troops normal humans can be and are still expendable. It would be like sending out divisions of Navy Seals and expecting them to be cannon fodder

[@nobleman9393]

I would also add to this list: Battle Droids, Jaffa, Unggoy, Monokumas and Frieza's Soldiers

[@shawn6860]

Star Treks MACO teams as well.

[@sonofjack6286]

Imperial Guard should've been number 1, they have numbers, weapons, regiments, and combat tactics.

[@L0stEngineer]

Great content as always, but could you include the Firefly's Brown coats? Equipped with nothing more than old Western movie props and a sanitized Lost Cause, they held Serenity Valley for 3 weeks. They did the impossible, mostly because they were too pretty to die. *Well except for the non-cast members, they died purty quick

[@ericpehler8450]

In the book Starship Troopers. The infantry was very highly trained and were very elite. The movie, not so much.

[@trevor3194]

Number one is probably The Imperial Guard. Okay so I was wrong. But no way should the Clones be higher then the Imperial Guard. As much as I like the Clones I would pick a Guardsmen Regiment from Cadia, or Mordia, or Krieg or the swole gents from Catachan over the 501st or the 212th any day.

[@Jacen32272]

It's hard to find a more disposable infantry force then the combat drones used by the invading aliens from Space Battleship Yamato 2199. Then again, their policy of planetary bombardment from Pluto means there was very little infantry action to be had. You should check them out, and do a review of the show, or at least the ship it's named after.....

[@theodorewiltrout8770]

The 40k imperial guards were really screwed over with the last set of rules. They made them back to ten man squads instead of the thirty five man platoons. Taking away their massed fire power which was the only thing they had going for them. Making the imperial guards a useless army to play 40k

[@AzureIV]

Ah, so Top Five UNDERRATED Expendable HUMAN Infantry Forces in Science Fiction. *Salutes brave human soldiers.*

[@definitelynotbeans9762]

Finally someone recognized the unsc army

[@goliath1179]

You can’t get more expandable then the average guardsman

[@masterhacker7313]

hearing you talk about NV is a welcome surprise!

[@theashman7836]

Imo UNSC army troops aren’t expendable at all, if you read some of the novels their quite valued.

[@The23Anonymous]

The imperial guard literally gets thrown in billions at its enemies, equipped with flashlights. And if it smells like defeat, the Imperium wont hesitate to blow up the whole planet. Still only 3rd place. Poor guardsmen. Not even the most expandable they are.

[@hoplitethirtynine1487]

The clone Troubleshooters from the RPG Paranoia are probably the most expendable combat force created.

[@republiccommando6104]

The Beast Mothership from Homeworld Cataclysm. Which, oddly enough, it’s ships can be considered expendable considering the Beast’s easy way to replenish it’s numbers.

[@supsup335]

The senior noncoms prop show the new recruits monty pythons "How not to be seen" in secret, far away from the commisar

[@banzeyegaming2234]

UNSC “Groundpounders”: “We shall hold the line, and make these sorry alien bastards pay for EVERY! INCH!! OF GROUND!!!” *Charge at the alien force, knowing that even if they die in their losing war, every minute means more people will escape* NCR Troops: “Hold the line! Not one step back!!!” *Fight for what they believe in, fighting back against the cruelty and savagery of Caesar's Legion* Imperial Guardsmen: “We have held the line for over 10’000 years!!! WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER!!! FOR THE EMPEROR!!!!!” *Charge courageously into the battlefield, disregarding their own lives to protect their fellow Mankind* Clone Trooper of the GAR: “We fight, we win! FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!!!” *Fight against the Separatists against overwhelming odds, fighting valiantly and winning. And if not, they died as brave soldiers, taking as many tinnies as they could with them* Starship Trooper: “Hahahahaha! That’s right, you could never defeat me, you sorry bugs- GAAK!!! *Charges into battle patriotically, only to be rendered limb from linb, eaten, burnt, burnt THEN eaten, torn in half, crushed, etc., etc. Pity the Starship Trooper...pity them*

[@wilfordpadio7531]

6:25 no, the blood ravens go to war not for glory, but for loot!!

[@aramhalamech4204]

4.22 Actually the NCR has a large scale weapons manufacturing industry. At least the uniforms, helmets and the underwhelmingly named 'service rifle' are certainly massproduced.

[@BAD_HOBO]

I like how he talked about the jedi like the clones themselves talk about the jedi

[@russelmurphy4868]

There's one group I'd like to include. They do not appear in any movies, games or TV shows, though, but in Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle's "Future History" stories: the CoDominium Marines. In particular, I am nominating the Line Marines, the CoDo troops who do all of the CoDo's dirty work. The CoDominium Marines are divided into three arms: the Fleet Marines, who are technically the elites of the CoDo Marines, and who serve onboard the mighty warships of the CoDominium Navy (also referred to as "The Fleet"); Garrison Marines, who are basically military police, and the Line Marines, who many argue are the real elite of the CoDo Marines. They have inherited many of their customs from both Western and Soviet Bloc units, with a strong emphasis on the Foreign Legion (they have taken as their own the saying "March or Die", and they mean it!) The following is their (unofficial, officially banned) marching song, sung at the same tempo as the Foreign Legion's march pace: "We've left blood in the dirt of twenty-five worlds, We've built roads on a dozen more, And all that we have at the end of our hitch Buys a night with a second-class whore The Senate decrees, the Grand Admiral calls, The orders come down from on high. It's 'On Full Kits' and 'Sound "Board Ships" ' We're sending you where you can die. The lands that we take the Senate gives back Rather more often than not. So the more that are killed the less share the loot And we won't be back to this spot. We'll break the hearts of your wives and your daughters, We may even break your arse as well. Then the Line Marines with their banners unfurled Will follow those banners to hell. We know the Devil, his pomps and his works Ah yes; we know them well. When we've finished our hitch as Line Marines You can bugger the Senate of Hell! Then we'll sit with our comrades and take off our packs We'll rest for ten years on the flat of our backs, Then it's 'On Full Kits!' and 'Get out of your racks!' 'You must build a new road through hell!' The Fleet is our nation, we sleep with a rifle No man ever begot a son on his rifle They curse when we sin And pay us in gin There's none who can stand us unless we're downwind. We're shot when we lose Turned out when we win. But we bury our comrades wherever they fall. And there's none who can face us, though we've nothing at all."