TOP GEAR: BMW 850csi TEST

[@PantsofVance]

This engine, with a few extra tweaks and valves, was used in the McLaren F1. Crazy

[@kpr1]

wow, didnt know that!

[@JUNAID187]

PantsofVance The F1 used the engine from the M8 which never made it into production so BMW sold the engines they had sourced for the project.

[@PantsofVance]

Nope. "A common misconception is that this engine powered the McLaren F1. When this was suggested to McLaren's designer Gordon Murray, however, the idea was rejected because the engine was too heavy and long for the McLaren F1. Rather, variations on the original S70 used on the 850csi, the S70/2 and S70/3 were used for the McLaren F1. (The variation used on the M8 prototype was the S70/1 engine.)" en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_8_Series#M8

[@YUSKHAN]

PantsofVance no this is a single cam v12 with two valves, that v12 that when into the McLaren F1 was built by M power, it's the twin cam M8 V12 engine, what M power did, was to build that v12 on two twin cam inline m3 engines that produced 320bhp each, but then again, if you have a v12 with a single cam cylinder head, you can swap it with a twin cam head, if it fits

[@YUSKHAN]

PantsofVance thats not true, the m8 engine was designed, by putting two twin cam inline m3 engines two getter that was the foundations of the m8 design

[@alexmartinez280]

How is the 8 NOT a GT car??? That’s exactly what it is. Way more than today’s GT cars because it is comfortable and not harsh with oversized wheels and tiny side walled tires. This is a perfect car for long distance tours. The smooth V12 and great looks makes it a poster car for what a GT should aim to be like IMO. An expensive car that does not look outdated before someone is done paying for the car.

[@yorkoxmaul66]

it's obsolete but it's classy

[@mikaeljonsson4686]

The E31 is def one of BMW:s most beautiful cars!

[@BerryA86]

90s had the best car designs IMO.

[@Aikaramba12]

TheAce86 hahHahahahahahahahahaaha

[@livelyosprey]

Good but the 60s win

[@alexmartinez280]

@@livelyosprey definitely the 60 and then the 90s. Every 30 years so the 2020s will have many beautiful cars as well.

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

Certainly, although refined until 2005ish. I'd say 1994-2004 was the peak of car design (then BMW released the E60 and yeah...)

[@affiakerlund6112]

@@alexmartinez280this wasn't true😂

[@theskyenout]

I wish more of the VERY early seasons of Top Gear were available on Netflix

[@bmwalpina4628]

V12 Manual... Where are those cars now...?

[@jessedean1983]

Storage.... Lol

[@TheIvangallo]

My dad has one, it will be mine as soon as I turn eighteen. Two more years to go, I can tell you one thing this car is beautiful.

[@WagonDrifter]

+BMW Alpina My driveway ^_^

[@billdexhart5179]

+BMW Alpina Aston still makes one that I know, but that might be it.

[@pavlospilakoutas]

in my garage

[@SeeOhSon]

when jeremy dressed like james

[@valgehiir]

When Clarkson says regular 850 was not a GT car, nor sports car, he is wrong, of course. We all know Clarkson does not like BMW. 850i is VERY much a GT car, and 850CSI is considered pretty much a super car now, 1500 ever made, prices of CSI are insane in Germany, if you can catch one at Mobile.de I have 850i for 13 years now, yes its heavy, but not more than 750, sluggish front due to heavy engine, but I dont go to race rings, 99.9% of the time roads are straight here. People turn heads to 850i more than to current SL, and some younger guys ask what model it is lol

[@kouroshtashvishi5031]

The ALPINA 1 is much better

[@MarquisRex]

valgehiir Very nice, the 8ers appeal is growing on me but i'll stick to my M635CSi

[@WagonDrifter]

+MarquisRex Do what I did then. Get both.

[@Fotznerwin27]

i love the starter sound! absolutely amazing 0:54

[@lefterismouselimis7890]

the best BMW ever for me!

[@bucki58]

I've got one and it crushes American muscle cars all day!

[@kieranwhite6647]

Utterly gorgeous, I've always loved the 8 series

[@dan-danbell9003]

Just bought a 6 speed black on black 1995 CSI in the US. I´ll let you know soon enough what it is like. Buy one if you can. No one is selling a CSI. Tons of CI, or I, or 840´s...

[@georgemorley1029]

But even better, this one has a manual transmission. This car is AMAZING.

[@NikoBell12]

Great GT car.

[@CJM44.41]

Who would have a DB7 over one of these?... Only car really any better in that league was the 911 Turbo really

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

I'd love to. The DB7 looks better, I bet it handles better and it's an Aston Martin. More than enough for me :D

[@CJM44.41]

Ahrle Bengtsdotter Personally I just can't love the interior of the Aston despite it looking great on the outside. If we're talking about the Zagato though, that's a different story! :)

[@miljororforsprakpartiet290]

That's true and a good point, I really like how BMW designed the interior of the 8 series. Still, for me a sports car is most about fun, and a bit less about quality, like the Ferrari 348/355 which wasn't even comparable to any of those from that aspect.

[@karuzo4116]

😂😂😂

[@greathey1234]

Elton John's Sacrifice towards the end was a perfect song for a perfect car review. It's a real pity Clarkson went mental and got kicked out of BBc2.

[@tommy2059]

still watching this beast in 2018

[@stephenbianchi7141]

Unfortunately, there IS a reason you can get these for dirt cheap (not a Csi)...but I'm still gonna buy one and I'm still gonna spend too much money fixing it.

[@codenamecordon]

if I had the money, I'd most certainly buy this over anything else mentioned by clarkson :D

[@007JAVF]

Someone watching in 2016?

[@Ab-bu3xy]

Om waching this in 2017

[@Ab-bu3xy]

Im*

[@RealOrbit-Australia]

2016 mate

[@xamanto]

+julio valladares well duh

[@daverunner3397]

Yup.

[@hakan9897]

90's best german car is this car , the best is not a mercedes or not a porsche. 850 CSi my dream car...

[@xraycortina]

Drove a few of them in my last employment. Wasn't sporty in any way (far too fat and heavy) but it would have been on my list of cars to drive 2000kms in one go.

[@Mattstrete]

2020 m850i driver dropping in to say HI from the future!

[@RFRM89]

love this car just couldn't find a csi here. the noise the ci made was brilliant so i bet the csi is at least the same or better. but didn't the csi had 4. wheel steering

[@frankymata1]

+romeomuradin only in Europe

[@RFRM89]

+raidernation ok thnx for the info.

[@mosmos2740]

Only the right hand drives came with 4 wheel steering as standard... it makes a huge difference with the weight through the corners...

[@joshpickles9022]

Wow this is vintage!

[@adriano034]

i drive this car is now collection car !! just 10 in france i have 1 on the south of french

[@dmitriyt2701]

You are a lucky man! Thinking about getting one to.

[@peterhunt1939]

really? Only? There are at least 6 pieces 850 csi in Poland.

[@lov2aclr8]

from his description sounds like a German muscle car. id love to have it for a few days!

[@AviAvikesh]

JC+THIS CAR+ ELTON JOHN, SACRIFY = cool review

[@raoultroquay8801]

@roberts.. its a 3.0csl model e9. Grtz

[@jamdc2000]

O.o! young jeremy had some moves back then

[@lefterismouselimis7890]

best bmw ever and forever! i can not listen a person who critish a car before he touch it.he is an lucky man because it has no talent to his job is only has bad comments,really all of them which he say as worse is too bad ?

[@staggabob]

And for a sensible answer, yes they did sell them in the USA but only around 7000 in 7 years. So basically it's not surprising you never saw one.

[@fitnesspoint2006]

JC would still look young if he didn't smoke like a chimney.

[@mrkongsimr]

I don't know why this is not a GT just like the Jaguar XJS I have loved this car, just beautiful

[@DavidTheScientist]

Well, I agree it's strange, but perhaps the name "Imperial" might suggest it was started in the UK? Thus it makes sense that we have been slow to adopt more logical standards. However, the majority of our measurements are metric... unlike the US which still sees metric and decimals as an oddity...

[@jameslee4845]

I need to find myself one of these!

[@mikejohnson1228]

James Lee look on bimmerforums.com under the 8 series sub-forum. there are lots for sale and good talks about restoring/keeping them on the road. I LOVE mine and reallly appreciate the forums.

[@1994clue]

James Lee: I've looked for some years to find the right one. Now I've got it (or she ;o) since 2012, a 850Ci and I hold it for the rest of my days (I hope so).

[@burrogrande]

Also one additonal system by the dealer when delivered was a gee ie tee. Standard equipment on most Bmw bacl then, nowdays unfortunately Audis have it fitted standard

[@SimpleCarGuy]

do they have these cars in USA? I've never seen one

[@victorkruger6432]

"It weighs 2 tones, 4 with a German business man on-board" 😂

[@1994clue]

It's true the weight without all liquids are 1955 kg, with oil, water, brake fluid and so on you come easily on 2 tons. That's the reason why it is a GranTourismo not a sports car!

[@SturmWurm]

Hes so handsome and young

[@tobythesandwich]

@MartigenLT You realize how much work it would take to convert a country over to LHD? The main reason England does it like that dates back to road systems in the middle ages. Believing you stayed on the left side so you could hold your sword with the right hand.

[@TheCommentator353]

1:14 his northern accent briefly and subtly comes through!

[@TheBucketOfTruth]

Just think if you'd held on to them all these years how much more the Porsche Turbo would be worth today than one of these.

[@HollywoodDK]

There were only made 1510 of the 850 csi :/ Have found one but damn its still expensive :D

[@DavidTheScientist]

Well, for a start there are only 194 countries on earth. According to the article on Wikipedia on the subject, around 1/3 of the world's population live in countries that drive on the left. And the word is adopt, not adapt. And sure, it does make it more expensive, but with RHD as such a big market, all cars these days are designed for either RHD or LHD from the start: presumably the geometry is just switched, and the number of different parts is probably fairly minimal...

[@barath4545]

"a V12 gameboy" Classic Clarkson :)

[@SampleTracks2224]

A video that did not age well! Price of an 850CSi now..?

[@MrTitmus]

I'd say that Jeremy ?Clarkson id a refined rocket scientist undercover as a bloody good pommie bastard. O ya J, go 4 it! : )

[@MrTitmus]

brrm brrm brrrrrrrrrrrm

[@ZvirbulisPauls]

which season could it be?

[@robertszaumanis8457]

Whats the orange BMW at start of the video?

[@FeintMotion]

She'd appreciate that. It is getting rather a bit dry down there.

[@hardcorefreshify]

all of those camera angles

[@nl__1903]

FFS….Elton John? I need to shift my E31

[@JdDaniel]

Holy mother does he look young.....

[@BoudewijnvanHouten]

Jeremy looks great....

[@x19Julius92x]

fuck what everyone says, if you have the cash you can make it look, drive, or go the way you want

[@X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X8X]

@Clausfarre Which 7000-pounds-car-challenge ?? I never saw it, can you send me a link of it (e.g. on streetfire).

[@valgehiir]

But it looks 1 000 000 dollars

[@EncrypticMethods]

It does :') not many people would agree with us though...I saw one of these driving down the interstate 5 in California about a year ago, Gorgeous car...

[@kernals12]

0:56 I'm glad he didn't say American businessman

[@P00nez]

What a classic give it to me in red "chars custom version " only a gundam fan would understand lol

[@rapidmrbushnell]

pretty car

[@GiveMeThatMango]

what year is this video from?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

GiveMeThatMango Probably 1992 or 1993.

[@satoshinakamoto228]

top speed ??

[@nobbynobbynoob]

JONY GABANATA 250 km/h, or the moon if you chip the limiter. :)

[@willzer808]

yer da

[@ThePalongboarding]

what year is this car?

[@nobbynobbynoob]

John Dube 1992

[@anorvak]

It is a gorgeous car, but they depreciate mightily, specially compared with Japanese cars of that age. Even a Toyota Supra will be harder and more expensive to get that this BMW (forget about an Acura NSX).

[@donkgated8074]

anorvak Huh? Here in Australia there are only 5 BMW 8-series on sale, and none of them are the csi model. Cheapest one, an 840Ci with 270k kms is asking $18,000. I can almost buy 2 RZ Supras for that money! A silly comparison in any case.

[@anorvak]

donkgated I was talking about the USA; seriously, who cares how much Australians pay for anything?

[@donkgated8074]

anorvak Oh, the grand USA, the nation that owed trillions to the Chinese, can't pay it back and keep adding to it. Anyway, I can only find 1 BMW 850csi in your classifieds, asking $40,000. Meanwhile there are a couple more Toyota Supras, asking around $30,000. So the 850csi as reviewed here is the rarer car.

[@buca9696]

anorvak Manual 850CSi are still mightily expensive.

[@gerardodelgadoramirez458]

donkgated Thanks for validating my point. What was the asking price of a new 850? How much the Supra? Which got depreciated more? And still, it is easier to get a decent 850 (which were mostly owned by old guys) than a decent Supra.

[@R33Racer]

UMAD bro?

[@Passionforgermancars]

bmw e39 m5 v8 is a quick one!

[@Wloczykij]

omg! teenage Clarkson!

[@R33Racer]

you should sell material like that. Though tidy up the grammar first.

[@omaifakingad]

Ever heard of decimeters, centimeters, millimeters? thought so.

[@notdanwhite]

I wish I knew! this is from the original top gear so it's even harder to find!

[@MrMamooshka]

"Heart and soul of Ted Nugent"? The guy who literally crapped himself and walked around in shit caked breeches for days to squirm his way out of the Vietnam War draft? That comparison didn't age well 🤣

[@tritop]

RIP Claus Luthe

[@FeintMotion]

At least he wouldn't have to take the bus.

[@luBOSS519]

s17e03 I guess

[@cartzar]

finally. NO TROLLLS!

[@ro0onColt45]

why does he hate BMW ??

[@hereshouldbeaname]

hahahahahahahaha jeremy how he looked :D

[@MartigenLT]

@PS2Gameplays your argument is invalid.

[@EricVanBuggenhaut]

Gorgeous, but who wants to drive a car that sips 25l/100km?

[@jamal.alabri]

Eric Van Buggenhaut I do of it is this Monster

[@mosmos2740]

25L / 100kms ... lol... mine is about 34L / 100kms...

[@Masashi0220]

2:39 MASSEY FERGUSON 3000

[@barath4545]

"V12 Gameboy" :)

[@musaedalfadhly9661]

Hi What is the deference between850csi and 850i Thanks

[@notdanwhite]

@FuckTheLawNiggas I don't drive a 320d.. lol

[@swingAE86]

jeremy used to be entertaining

[@M5kungen2]

Bmw CSL 3.0

[@R33Racer]

Yeah UMAD. Trololo

[@notdanwhite]

@FuckTheLawNiggas I think you need to go back to school. You obviously never listened in it.

[@Bruno-my9uf]

Is a racs ca silly !!!! 😂🎉

[@hjp1hjp22]

The BMW 850 is in total contast to the Fiat 850!!!

[@kingon8]

so bmw copied the mk3 supra?

[@buldogubld01]

fuck i own a 77k pound car :))

[@mz9393mz]

'90s were so bad for clothes and hair.

[@DavidTheScientist]

Ahh, you're wonderfully ignorant. South Africa, Australia, Thailand, Indonesia, India, and Japan are all right-hand drive, to name a few. There are no real disadvantages to being RHD vs LHD... so why change? Do you have any idea how much it would cost to switch side of the road and change all the cars over a few years?

[@willzer808]

cork?! leave Ireland alone you immense fool

[@Mrrdenzel116rus]

машина великолепна, мода говно...

[@SUPERCHARGEDF1]

who the fuck is Ted Nugent?

[@R33Racer]

Epic fail.

[@NearTheLimits]

Jeremy, it's 280 hp, not 380 hp

[@athingcalledlife7135]

It is 380, the 840 had 280 hp

[@1994clue]

The CSi have 380 HP, the 840 have 286 HP. The 850i have 299 HP and the 850Ci 326HP!

[@Raincitywarrior]

rubbish